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    how much hp/tq gain is this going to be good for? myself I like the feel of the supercharger stock heads.
    2003 cv sport marauder engine swap. then teksid 4.6 soon to be supercharged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattdohc View Post
    how much hp/tq gain is this going to be good for? myself I like the feel of the supercharger stock heads.
    I'm not sure about power increase, but the sought-after 96-99 Cobra cams have equal duration at 195/195 while the original Marauder cams are 185/195. All of them have the same .398 lift.
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    03-04 exhaust cams to replace intake cams?

    If you get the degreeing correct, I think around 20-30rwhp for 96-98 cobra cams. Look around svtp, they come up every so often.

    Hopefully massacre noticed this thread. He's the master on this and was instrumental when I swapped 98 cobra cams into an 03-04 cobra engine.


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    I would just either advance/retard the stock cams or use '96-'98 Cobra intake cams. Running exhaust cams on the intake side sounds overly complicated and time consuming IMHO.

    I have a stash of Cobra cams, just waiting for a future project. Luckily I got mine when they were still cheap. Todd Warren was one of the first to put the early Cobra cams into the C heads, others on the corral and modfords were early to that party as well.
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    Well, it looks like I was able to grab a set of 99 Cobra cams after all. Anyone know where to find the cam bolts for them?
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    The dealer keeps them in stock but as mentioned ARP is the way to go. Summit is normally my go to.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 376shovel View Post
    Well, it looks like I was able to grab a set of 99 Cobra cams after all. Anyone know where to find the cam bolts for them?
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    Pumped I got my 05 motor now. DC heads.
    2003 Marauder 300A
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    Build date: 8/6/02
    Ship date: 5/28/03
    14.33 @ 96.82 with OLD engine
    6R80 swap in progress

    1968 Chevelle
    NA/Pump Gas 10.4 @ 128 mph
    416/4L85E LSA Supercharged build underway

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    2003 Marauder 300A
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    Build date: 8/6/02
    Ship date: 5/28/03
    14.33 @ 96.82 with OLD engine
    6R80 swap in progress

    1968 Chevelle
    NA/Pump Gas 10.4 @ 128 mph
    416/4L85E LSA Supercharged build underway

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    I believe the cam covers are different. PCV location? Oil pan and pickup tube, too.
    Thanks to Darrin @ BC Automotive:
    $1800 and it was worse than when he started!

    Brian (FordNut) FPG # 1458 of 7838
    03 MM 300A (Lotsa mods, 130k mi) was 303rwhp/318rwtq N/A
    then 476/410 D1SC ProCharged on stock block
    then 660/555 D1SC PC on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
    then 365/369 N/A on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
    Now 751/617 3.4L Whipple on 5.3 Boss5.0 iron big bore stroker

    03 MM 300B Silver (Mostly stock, originally wife's car, 370k mi) FPG # 7053 of 7838 or 49 of 417 SB
    03 MM 300B Silver, Stock, wife's next one, 136k mi FPG # 7134 of 7838 or 89 of 417 SB
    04 MM Silver, Stock, on standby 85k mi, FPG # 1212 of 3214 or 432 of 997 SB
    01 F150 longbed
    01 F150 shortbed
    00 F150 4x4 stepside
    01 F150 4x4 7700
    68 Stang FB (70 351C 4V, 4 wheel discs, project car)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FordNut View Post
    I believe the cam covers are different. PCV location? Oil pan and pickup tube, too.
    Yep basically everything except the long block is different. I'm going to strip this one, clean it good do the intake cams, and yank my to swap everything over. I'll be selling everything I don't use. No space for 2 motors come summer.
    2003 Marauder 300A
    #2928 of 7838
    Build date: 8/6/02
    Ship date: 5/28/03
    14.33 @ 96.82 with OLD engine
    6R80 swap in progress

    1968 Chevelle
    NA/Pump Gas 10.4 @ 128 mph
    416/4L85E LSA Supercharged build underway

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    Good move. I have a spare engine ready to go. Low miles, Cobra cams. Just have to swap over cam covers and intake. It already has the correct pan and tube. The original engine is still doing fine at 281k but one of these days I suspect I'll need to change.
    Thanks to Darrin @ BC Automotive:
    $1800 and it was worse than when he started!

    Brian (FordNut) FPG # 1458 of 7838
    03 MM 300A (Lotsa mods, 130k mi) was 303rwhp/318rwtq N/A
    then 476/410 D1SC ProCharged on stock block
    then 660/555 D1SC PC on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
    then 365/369 N/A on 5.3 wet sleeved Teksid alum big bore stroker
    Now 751/617 3.4L Whipple on 5.3 Boss5.0 iron big bore stroker

    03 MM 300B Silver (Mostly stock, originally wife's car, 370k mi) FPG # 7053 of 7838 or 49 of 417 SB
    03 MM 300B Silver, Stock, wife's next one, 136k mi FPG # 7134 of 7838 or 89 of 417 SB
    04 MM Silver, Stock, on standby 85k mi, FPG # 1212 of 3214 or 432 of 997 SB
    01 F150 longbed
    01 F150 shortbed
    00 F150 4x4 stepside
    01 F150 4x4 7700
    68 Stang FB (70 351C 4V, 4 wheel discs, project car)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FordNut View Post
    Good move. I have a spare engine ready to go. Low miles, Cobra cams. Just have to swap over cam covers and intake. It already has the correct pan and tube. The original engine is still doing fine at 281k but one of these days I suspect I'll need to change.
    Exactly. Once it's done I'm going to take a long holiday weekend and swap it all over. That ticking is driving me crazy.
    2003 Marauder 300A
    #2928 of 7838
    Build date: 8/6/02
    Ship date: 5/28/03
    14.33 @ 96.82 with OLD engine
    6R80 swap in progress

    1968 Chevelle
    NA/Pump Gas 10.4 @ 128 mph
    416/4L85E LSA Supercharged build underway

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    I am building a 4v engine with a teksid block, 99 heads and cams, with an 03 marauder intake. Yes, the non marauder valve covers will have ports in different spots but can still be used. I am in fact using the MKVIII timing cover as opposed to the Marauder one, it will work just fine. I got lots of advice regarding cams on this site and the CVN site. New oil pan, new tensioners, new oil pump, degreed the cams (116/110), it's been a fun, if not illuminating process.

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    I hope you meant 110/116 intake/exhaust if they are Ford cams
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