03-04 exhaust cams to replace intake cams?

[maximusslade]

Yeah.... that's likely what I meant. Been a while since I did it... wrote it all down on a pad in the shop, since I mess little details like that up sometimes.

[massacre]

Well if it's 116/110 intake/exhaust then you did it backwards, but it's likely that you did it correctly. It's always nice to have some pen & paper handy when degreeing cams, especially when learning. No shame in that at all.

[WPG_Merc]

Well if it's 116/110 intake/exhaust then you did it backwards, but it's likely that you did it correctly. It's always nice to have some pen & paper handy when degreeing cams, especially when learning. No shame in that at all.

[maximusslade]

What a pain in the rear it was too to degree those cams... Hopefully I'll only ever have to do it once.

[WPG_Merc]

What a pain in the rear it was too to degree those cams... Hopefully I'll only ever have to do it once.

For my MM I got Jeff at Mo's to degree mine in 2015,It took 3 days & 5 dynos with 1 ZEX dyno to set it up right.
No probs since.

This summer I maybe able to get a S/C forged motor from a friends odd stang he maybe parting out.

[massacre]

What a pain in the rear it was too to degree those cams... Hopefully I'll only ever have to do it once.

The more you do it, the easier it gets plus the quality of the tools is paramount IMHO. You'd be surprised at how many people will spend thousands on a motor but won't spring for a $200 quality dial indicator to measure it with.
If you can just make up your own tool kit, you might be better off depending on what you are trying to do. The stuff I have, I know will thread right into the head, I know I can get a good angle on the spring retainer, piston stop is super long and works like a charm- basically if you have good tools the job will go smoothly and much more quickly. You will get nice smooth readings and repeatable results which is what you want.
Sure the HF and Summit kits are short money and only a click away from your front door. Try using their tiny piston stop, jumpy dial indicator and tiny degree wheel. Maybe someone makes a good kit now, but man the kits I have seen and ones that I tried to use were terrible. Nothing repeatable, tools were not user friendly at all, magnetic stand, small wheel.
I assembled my own kit and I can do it in a couple hours depending on the setup. Like if I can walk up to the motor on the stand and just set everything up and start taking measurements then it goes pretty quick. 2v cams are super easy.
I will tell you that it is really easy degreeing modular stuff today compared to the old days before adjustable crank gears with multiple keyways.
You would have to set everything up, hang all the chains, find crank CL, then take measurements in the usual fashion. Then figure out where you want to go, and then using a diamond burr on a dremel, and grind the keyway of the gear in the proper direction, then set everything back up, and take measurements again and see how you did.
Need more? Take everything apart again, grind it more, then set everything back up again and take more measurements.
And do it over, and over and then on 4 more cams.
You can grind the key itself but don't want to make it weird and wobbly. I saw some offset keys too but never had to use them.
I would like to buy the person who came up with the adjustable crank gears a beer, they sure saved me a ton of time over the years.

ModCamPonents made some adjustable cam gears, I have a set of the originals but the 2nd gen gears are a much better design and prob the most expensive cam gears I have seen. I never installed any adjustable cam gears because it dawned on me that they weren't needed.

[massacre]

For my MM I got Jeff at Mo's to degree mine in 2015,It took 3 days & 5 dynos with 1 ZEX dyno to set it up right.
No probs since.

This summer I maybe able to get a S/C forged motor from a friends odd stang he maybe parting out.

Wow did you guys degree the cams in the car? If so that is quite impressive.

[WPG_Merc]

Wow did you guys degree the cams in the car? If so that is quite impressive.

Yes sir,& also installed a ZEX NOS system.
It took 3 long days in Aug 2015 at Mo's in the humid Georgia heat.

[massacre]

I won't degree cams in car, way too much hassle. 3 days sounds about right lol

Glad you were able to get it done.

[maximusslade]

+100000 on What massacre says. The tools really make or break the job. I did get the kit from Summit and it.... It was rough... I had to improvise a few things to make it all work. As to the adjustable gears, yeah, I ended up getting adjustable crank and cam sprockets from MMR. It took me a while to figure out the right configuration, but once I did everything did seem to fall into place.

[Serge]

Hey dudes I'm grabbing an 05 motor to replace my ticking engine, and it will be on the stand for a few weeks before it goes in. Anybody out there use an exhaust camshaft on the intake side for more power? Looks like the 96-98 Cobra intake cams are hard to come by, but these cams are cheap and plentiful. I'm a GM guy so I don't know much about the 4.6 DOHC specifically, but as long as they're the same journal size and there are no issues with the sprocket, I dont see why you couldn't use an exhaust cam on the intake side. Thanks.

96-98 Cobra cams aren't that hard to find. Ask around on Corral, SVTP and ModularFords and you will eventually find a set.

[maximusslade]

And there are pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenty of 01 cobra heads and cams out there too.