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    I've heard running es12a refrigerant keeps things almost cooler than stock but I have no personal experience.


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    On the suburban with rear ac the refrigerant exits both Evaps to the compressor then the condenser then there's a tee back to both evaps

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    Thumbs up

    cool air intake is your friend .
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    Quote Originally Posted by mm svt View Post
    On the suburban with rear ac the refrigerant exits both Evaps to the compressor then the condenser then there's a tee back to both evaps
    The KC can be ordered parallel or series. Most people do it in series. Parallel is a bit more work, you have to add a T, change to a different orifice valve for the cab evap, and add an expansion valve to the KC. It actually comes with a solenoid valve so you can shut off one side, but it is optional whether to use it.

    My concern with the KC is wintertime. Some people totally eliminate the water-to-air heat exchanger and rely on the KC alone. If it's winter and you're running heat instead of AC, then you run the car hard for awhile, there is no way to get rid of the heat generated by the SC. Then you have high IAT and if the tune doesn't compensate adequately you end up with a hole in the side of the block.
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    Hit it with some Methanol....

    http://www.snowperformance.net/Gas-w...kits-s/100.htm


    Keeps the intake runners, valves and combustion chambers nice and clean too!
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    Performance question

    I talked with kincade performance today, gonna give it a shot and ordered the kit w bracket.
    This MM doesn't get to see winters but the front heat exchanger may be blocked off w/ corrugated plastic sheet at first but he recommends adding a larger reservoir and removing the HE

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    Performance question

    That's a great idea Joe didn't realize how well it works, and you can get the juice at Walmart

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    Quote Originally Posted by mm svt View Post
    That's a great idea Joe didn't realize how well it works, and you can get the juice at Walmart


    That price is a joke I hope? Unless it's a case of four?? I have an alkicontrol kit (the best brand) that I bought off a member here and never bothered hooking it up that I'd let go. I even have a case of juice in stock!


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    I think swapping the eaton out is the next big expense, but still haven't ordered the BAP

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    I buy methanol for $3.00 per gallon at the race gas shop

    $43.00 and that boost juice is only 50% meth. Lmao!! That's over $80.00 per gallon That's gotta hurt!!
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    How long does a gallon last?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbov6Bryan View Post
    I buy methanol for $3.00 per gallon at the race gas shop

    $43.00 and that boost juice is only 50% meth. Lmao!! That's over $80.00 per gallon That's gotta hurt!!
    I can get 100% Methanol* for less than $1.00 a gallon....but then..... I work for a chemical distributor....




    *(VERY flammable to work with...should mix it 50:50 for Meth injection)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mm svt View Post
    How long does a gallon last?
    I always fill the cars container at 1/2 tank because of launching it causes the meth to slosh back

    Probably 1/2 gallon to 8 1/4 mile passes with a hago m15 fitting

    I use 100% meth, no water needed to cool the car down
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Walsh View Post
    I can get 100% Methanol* for less than $1.00 a gallon....but then..... I work for a chemical distributor....




    *(VERY flammable to work with...should mix it 50:50 for Meth injection)
    I use it as a fuel supplement so I never use water. All Buick grand national guys run 100% meth

    Also don't get it on your skin, you can go blind
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