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    Quote Originally Posted by Rkammer View Post
    Well, I recently got the bug to make my MM a bit faster. It's got a tune, 4.10s, K&N, cold plugs, cold stat and runs 14.7s @ 95 now. So, I got to thinking about the cost of even getting into the high 13s.

    cat back exhaust with X pipe - $1200 installed
    Headers - $1000+ installed
    Converter - $1000+ installed
    Another dyno tune - $500?
    Maybe drag radials - $400+

    So, for about $4000 MAYBE I can into the high 13s. The more I thought about that the less attractive it sounded. Don't get me wrong. I love my Marauder. In fact, I just decided to keep it over the long haul as my daily driver and vacation car. It's the finest sedan I've ever owned.

    But, to me, $4000, to gain less than a second in the 1/4 is not my idea of money well spent. If I want to satisfy the need for speed, I'll just park the MM and drive around in my Grand National for a couple of days. That old Buick runs high 11s on pump gas and it only took about $5000 to get there from a 14 second stocker.

    Well, I've got my flame suit on so have at it fellas.
    No, you're right, big bucks to get a NA Marauder down into the mid to low 13's. 03mmmonroe's running 13.4 with his car, and he's been working at that for a couple years and has all the above-mentioned stuff, plus a couple other things to get there. I think he's got another 10th or so he can knock off, which is gonna be one fast NA Marauder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SC Cheesehead View Post
    No, you're right, big bucks to get a NA Marauder down into the mid to low 13's. 03mmmonroe's running 13.4 with his car, and he's been working at that for a couple years and has all the above-mentioned stuff, plus a couple other things to get there. I think he's got another 10th or so he can knock off, which is gonna be one fast NA Marauder.
    I hope to pull that off this year. Race gas, smaller rear tires, full exhaust, SRI repaired/installed, and possibly a gear swap later on.
    Maybe a 13.2 or possibly on the 12 second bubble.

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    The GN and the MM are two very different cars; one has a great hp/wt ratio, the other doesn't.

    4.10s are not enough gear for a MM (tall tires, heavy car). A retune will not cost $500, should be no more than $200. Why the cold plugs if it's n/a?

    Cobra intake cams provide the biggest bang for the buck and will add more power than headers, cat back and X-pipe combined and cost 80% less.

    I'd go with 4.30s, stock converter, cobra intake cams (106/116). The cams alone will provide 20rwhp, 30ft lbs at 3500 and two tenths in the quarter. The added tq will negate the need for a loose converter.

    Can you do any of the installs yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackened300a View Post
    I hope to pull that off this year. Race gas, smaller rear tires, full exhaust, SRI repaired/installed, and possibly a gear swap later on.
    Maybe a 13.2 or possibly on the 12 second bubble.
    Would love to see that, Paul. You and Russ need to get together and brainstorm, would love to see somebody take Glenn's money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by na svt View Post
    The GN and the MM are two very different cars; one has a great hp/wt ratio, the other doesn't.

    4.10s are not enough gear for a MM (tall tires, heavy car). A retune will not cost $500, should be no more than $200. Why the cold plugs if it's n/a?

    Cobra intake cams provide the biggest bang for the buck and will add more power than headers, cat back and X-pipe combined and cost 80% less.

    I'd go with 4.30s, stock converter, cobra intake cams (106/116). The cams alone will provide 20rwhp, 30ft lbs at 3500 and two tenths in the quarter. The added tq will negate the need for a loose converter.

    Can you do any of the installs yourself?
    You're talking about 96-98 cobra intake cams? They do cost little, but the install is the nasty part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fosters View Post
    You're talking about 96-98 cobra intake cams? They do cost little, but the install is the nasty part.
    I also found that out when I called my favorite mechanic. Only about $200 for the cams but over $1000 for the install. Ouch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fosters View Post
    You're talking about 96-98 cobra intake cams? They do cost little, but the install is the nasty part.
    It's a 4 hour job and I've done many. Drive it here and I'll do it for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by na svt View Post
    It's a 4 hour job and I've done many. Drive it here and I'll do it for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by na svt View Post
    It's a 4 hour job and I've done many. Drive it here and I'll do it for free.
    Why couldn't you live closer?!

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    I think my car went 14.1 with UD pulleys, a Reinhart chip (yes chip) and 4:10s.
    Seems so long ago.....ah...much simpler times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by na svt View Post
    It's a 4 hour job and I've done many. Drive it here and I'll do it for free.
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    For me the best route was to buy a car with all the work done, I know I know
    half of the fun is doing the work, but when you can buy a car for half of what was in it that makes financial sense.
    An intercooled, supercharged car with 69,000 miles with tons of other work, converter, J mod, 4.10's, 31 spline axles, widened wheels that has run in the high 12's for under 15 grand. Lot of fun for the money.
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    one word, nitrous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jstevens View Post
    one word, nitrous.
    Best answer yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by na svt View Post
    It's a 4 hour job and I've done many. Drive it here and I'll do it for free.

    Todd I still have those cobra cams I bought off of you. I may have to take you up on that offer! I'll buy ya dinner or beer! or both if you would be willing to do that. I had considered selling them cams because I was thinking i was gonna be unable to install them.

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