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Finally
12-20-2015, 10:35 AM
Kits are out here and way cheaper than a centri kit ,I wonder how much would fit and how much would have to get modified to fit our Marauders.

http://www.on3performance.com/shop/1996-04-mustang-cobra-4v-twin-turbo-system/

RubberCtyRauder
12-20-2015, 10:38 AM
Zack would prolly know a great deal on that

justbob
12-20-2015, 12:29 PM
I'll start. First off, the ONLY thing that is complicating to most people is the pipes. Second, the pipes are not a direct fit, neither is the header fitment. So what you have here is all the hard parts that are universal to all cars minus everything it takes to fit in your car.





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Zack
12-20-2015, 12:35 PM
Kits are out here and way cheaper than a centri kit ,I wonder how much would fit and how much would have to get modified to fit our Marauders.

http://www.on3performance.com/shop/1996-04-mustang-cobra-4v-twin-turbo-system/

The correct answer is:
Not even close.

Finally
12-20-2015, 01:04 PM
The correct answer is:
Not even close.

You made me sad. Lol. May I'll contact them and see if they would fab one up for us.

Ourobos
12-20-2015, 01:22 PM
Mustang kits require a turbular suspension to make it fit on them, there isn't an aftermarket tubular kit for our cars.

Zack
12-20-2015, 01:34 PM
You made me sad. Lol. May I'll contact them and see if they would fab one up for us.

You are wasting your time.

The Marauder engine bay is not ideal for extra piping.

Lots of modifications required.

Finally
12-20-2015, 01:41 PM
You are wasting your time.

The Marauder engine bay is not ideal for extra piping.

Lots of modifications required.

I found the solution

http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/1805857-twin-turbo-ls1-ford-crown-victoria.html

Bad_S55
12-20-2015, 01:51 PM
Procharger + nitrous = 849 rwhp = done.

MOTOWN
12-20-2015, 02:01 PM
These threads are always amusing, if you have to ask "will this fit our cars" then more than likely your in way over your head.

loud2004marquis
12-20-2015, 02:37 PM
Check this one out:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=100027

Finally
12-20-2015, 02:54 PM
These threads are always amusing, if you have to ask "will this fit our cars" then more than likely your in way over your head.

Well is that not a stupid assumption. Sort of like saying you must be an Ass for saying that. On lots of cars there is this or that that might fit or bolt on with a little modification. Sometimes a little modification saves on engineering a whole system perhaps I am guilty of not knowing what interchange can be done so I'm sorry if I asked. Over my head. Why didn't I think of that before I started my old school pro stock style Cleveland powered Pinto being built completely by yours truly in my garage.
I did not ask if it would fit. I asked if it could fit with modification now please just move along and enjoy your weekend and try doing it without trying to make yourself look great at the expense of another

Finally
12-20-2015, 02:56 PM
Check this one out:

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=100027

Yea I spotted that one earlier. It looks like a nice build.

Thanks
Tony

RubberCtyRauder
12-20-2015, 03:06 PM
Procharger + nitrous = 849 rwhp = done.

+ forged motor and $15-20k to do it right

Seneca
12-20-2015, 03:12 PM
I cant say I've tried it. But I believe you would have to hack a kit for a mustang up so much to fit a marauder that it would be much easier to start from scratch. As zack stated the marauders engine bay sucks.. I guess the main thing is the k member unless you don't mind pipes making contact with pavement..

Finally
12-20-2015, 03:13 PM
+ forged motor and $15-20k to do it right

First thing I thought of also. Moemoney

RubberCtyRauder
12-20-2015, 03:17 PM
Unless you can source all the parts and fabricate and install yourself, a centri kit or eaton swap or turbo is going to cost $5-8k to buy and have installed by someplace able to do it. And that's for a stock motor, 400-450 rwhp

Finally
12-20-2015, 04:02 PM
Unless you can source all the parts and fabricate and install yourself, a centri kit or eaton swap or turbo is going to cost $5-8k to buy and have installed by someplace able to do it. And that's for a stock motor, 400-450 rwhp

Sort of what I had figured. Equal costs in the end. I have talked with a guy who has some supercharger take offs where someone upgraded,I think I'll start with that at some point and gather what all else I'll need and bolt it up myself. From there it's a tune for all to be good.
Thanks for your input.
Tony

RubberCtyRauder
12-20-2015, 04:37 PM
A few years ago I bought a non Intercooler vortech kit that was new and never installed by owner. He sold marauder so I bought the kit. $3800 plus wrong fuel pump so add $180. Wrong belt so add $35, damaged pulley so add $100 and install and dyno tune for Like $1700 and installed TCE brake lines only , it all equals $5815.00. No headers, no gear swap, and it had no Intercooler so iat could increase easily if hot out. Sold it a year later when this trilogy car came up.

MOTOWN
12-20-2015, 05:06 PM
Well is that not a stupid assumption. Sort of like saying you must be an Ass for saying that. On lots of cars there is this or that that might fit or bolt on with a little modification. Sometimes a little modification saves on engineering a whole system perhaps I am guilty of not knowing what interchange can be done so I'm sorry if I asked. Over my head. Why didn't I think of that before I started my old school pro stock style Cleveland powered Pinto being built completely by yours truly in my garage.
I did not ask if it would fit. I asked if it could fit with modification now please just move along and enjoy your weekend and try doing it without trying to make yourself look great at the expense of another


But hurt:confused: you sound like a cry baby because i said your in over your head? Which clearly you are, maybe take up Legos? :bigcry:

Finally
12-20-2015, 05:14 PM
But hurt:confused: you sound like a cry baby because i said your in over your head? Which clearly you are, maybe take up Legos? :bigcry:

Thank you :beer:
Please re-read the bottom two sentences in my response,if that does not make any sense than words are wasted with you.

Finally
12-20-2015, 05:17 PM
A few years ago I bought a non Intercooler vortech kit that was new and never installed by owner. He sold marauder so I bought the kit. $3800 plus wrong fuel pump so add $180. Wrong belt so add $35, damaged pulley so add $100 and install and dyno tune for Like $1700 and installed TCE brake lines only , it all equals $5815.00. No headers, no gear swap, and it had no Intercooler so iat could increase easily if hot out. Sold it a year later when this trilogy car came up.

I hear ya,that twin turbo job on eBay would probably be the smart buy but I have never been that guy who drives someone else's build,the curse of the eternal tinkerer.

Tony

Finally
12-20-2015, 05:35 PM
I cant say I've tried it. But I believe you would have to hack a kit for a mustang up so much to fit a marauder that it would be much easier to start from scratch. As zack stated the marauders engine bay sucks.. I guess the main thing is the k member unless you don't mind pipes making contact with pavement..

Thank you and now I see it's not some fab work but most all of it would have to be fabricated so one would be better off to start from scratch,I did ask them if they would consider building a kit for us and how much interest they would need to see.ill let everyone know their response.

Tony

FordNut
12-20-2015, 06:51 PM
That CV setup is a chevy engine.

Finally
12-20-2015, 06:57 PM
That CV setup is a chevy engine.

The eBay deal I was talking about is in the link below.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercury-Other-4dr-Sdn-/131675428390?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1ea8779626:g:UmYAAOSw 7FRWbeXb&item=131675428390


I'm not sure if your talking about that also

FordNut
12-20-2015, 07:16 PM
As mentioned previously, the Marauder engine bay won't work for a Mustang system. Nor would the CV, but the CV would actually have a little more space due to the 2V vs 4V heads.


The eBay deal I was talking about is in the link below.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercury-Other-4dr-Sdn-/131675428390?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1ea8779626:g:UmYAAOSw 7FRWbeXb&item=131675428390

I'm not sure if your talking about that also

This one is what I was referring to with the chevy engine...


I found the solution

http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/1805857-twin-turbo-ls1-ford-crown-victoria.html

hotford
12-20-2015, 07:27 PM
More than likey gonna be a custom Fab job, especially if you want to to perform right and look good, that tween turbo MM looked like AZZ under the hood with all that plumming.......

Hell Zack single turbo was a bit of work and looked better than the tween one......

FordNut
12-20-2015, 07:31 PM
More than likey gonna be a custom Fab job, especially if you want to to perform right and look good, that tween turbo MM looked like AZZ under the hood with all that plumming.......

Hell Zack single turbo was a bit of work and looked better than the tween one......

Yep, a custom job. Once upon a time somebody posted some pics of a MM with custom twins installed, it looked really sweet. I believe somebody saw it at a car show or something and snapped a few pics. I don't think anybody ever got specs on boost, hp, track times, or anything like that.

Finally
12-20-2015, 08:21 PM
As mentioned previously, the Marauder engine bay won't work for a Mustang system. Nor would the CV, but the CV would actually have a little more space due to the 2V vs 4V heads.



This one is what I was referring to with the chevy engine...

Oh that haha I threw that is as a bit of humor. No Cheby sitting in a Ford for me. Lol

daddyusmaximus
12-20-2015, 10:25 PM
Procharger + nitrous = 849 rwhp = done.

Just looked at the Procharger web page. All Mustang kits.

RubberCtyRauder
12-20-2015, 10:27 PM
Just looked at the Procharger web page. All Mustang kits.

Procharger no longer makes a specific marauder kit

daddyusmaximus
12-21-2015, 08:44 AM
That's what happens when you buy a car they stopped making... It's quick enough for me anyhow... For now.

justbob
12-21-2015, 09:47 AM
Just looked at the Procharger web page. All Mustang kits.


Make your own like me. [emoji4]


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cer0413
12-21-2015, 09:55 AM
Make your own like me. [emoji4]


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It doesn't look homemade to me.

O's Fan Rich
12-21-2015, 10:29 AM
I cant say I've tried it. But I believe you would have to hack a kit for a mustang up so much to fit a marauder that it would be much easier to start from scratch. As zack stated the marauders engine bay sucks.. I guess the main thing is the k member unless you don't mind pipes making contact with pavement..

Piiishawwwwww!!!! what would you know about twin turbo'ing a Marauder?????


Wait......

justbob
12-21-2015, 05:12 PM
It doesn't look homemade to me.


Trust me. I hit some brick walls.. That's what a grinder and welder are for! [emoji4]


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LOWBUCKMM
12-29-2015, 02:09 PM
There is one turbo kit made for the marauder. PTK single turbo kit. Not many of them made. And believe me it's kind of a s*^t show with piping with that kit. I don't see how a twin turbo kit could fit and look nice.

MOTOWN
12-29-2015, 08:55 PM
There is one turbo kit made for the marauder. PTK single turbo kit. Not many of them made. And believe me it's kind of a s*^t show with piping with that kit. I don't see how a twin turbo kit could fit and look nice.

I think Senecas build is going to be top shelf when he's done, and the member who did the coyote motor is going to do twins , I've also been considering going twins with custom built forward facing turbo headers, i think it can be done extremely well if the planing, and preperation goes into it.

Seneca
12-29-2015, 09:01 PM
I think Senecas build is going to be top shelf when he's done, and the member who did the coyote motor is going to do twins , I've also been considering going twins with custom built forward facing turbo headers, i think it can be done extremely well if the planing, and preperation goes into it.

Thank you sir! It'll be decent I wish I would have made up forward facing headers myself.. oh well something to upgrade down the road. I'm definitely learning alot! You are definitely correct it's all in the planning and imagination!

Sully008
12-30-2015, 08:30 AM
Yep, a custom job. Once upon a time somebody posted some pics of a MM with custom twins installed, it looked really sweet. I believe somebody saw it at a car show or something and snapped a few pics. I don't think anybody ever got specs on boost, hp, track times, or anything like that.


This is that car:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--N8Ll9I2P--/196w5tixss424jpg.jpg

Link: http://oppositelock.kinja.com/twin-turbo-tuesday-1467977563

Finally
12-30-2015, 08:36 AM
This is that car:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--N8Ll9I2P--/196w5tixss424jpg.jpg

Link: http://oppositelock.kinja.com/twin-turbo-tuesday-1467977563

Nice install,looks clean and simple lol