rethinking my fleet of cars

[Gccch]

I have not gotten the Marauder out of storage yet but there is a nice opportunity to get a Porsche which I regret selling 3 years ago. It's not the exact one but better. Something would have to go. My 16k Trilogy Marauder is the likeliest choice....

Hm. not a for sale post but thought I would share. Have not bought the Porsche yet. But time is tight on this one.

[03blackvegas]

If you decide to sell, hopefully someone will have the right amount of coin to make it worth while.

[stevengerard]

Since you owned one in the past you know all too well they are two totally different cars. Just weigh the pro's and cons of each and your intended usage and that should help you decide (along with the dollar consideration)

[Logizyme]

Trading the regret of parting ways with one car for the regret of parting ways with another is not a trade I would make.

[crownvic97]

Trading the regret of parting ways with one car for the regret of parting ways with another is not a trade I would make.

That's a great point. Are you going to regret getting rid of the Marauder?

[martyo]

Which Porsche?

[Turbov6Bryan]

Describe your fleet of cars

Let us pick through the cars and find the sacrificial lamb

[lifespeed]

Describe your fleet of cars

Let us pick through the cars and find the sacrificial lamb

Here Here. It will be like a Roman coliseum; thumbs up or thumbs down?

[Turbov6Bryan]

Here Here. It will be like a Roman coliseum; thumbs up or thumbs down?

Let's find the herd and pick from the litter

:lol:

If you have a 63 split window I'll make room for it here in my living room

[martyo]

I would get rid of your Corvette.

My birthday s in October so you can just give it me then.

Problem solved.

[Gccch]

I would get rid of your Corvette.

My birthday s in October so you can just give it me then.

Problem solved.

Haha... I may have it finished by then, Marty.

Ok, so I have a 2004 F150 which I use as winter driver and utility vehicle. I plan to keep it. I have a project 64 Corvette which is going to be on the road this summer with many loose ends for the rest of my life. It's my personal challenge vehicle which I want to finish and keep as a matter of pride. Then there's the Marauder.

The Porsche I had was a 2007 Cayman S which I sold with 15k miles. I have described it as the perfect car. It's not the ultimate but a great all around car. There is a 2014 model I can get this week with 800 miles on it. Brand new with two years on the warranty. Bare bones, no option car. Just right.

I do suffer with a daily commute of 100 miles round trip. Currently using the truck and occasionally the MM. I spend a lot on fuel.

My issue with keeping the MM which I like very much is when I put a bunch of miles on it the value will plummet. I've got probably $27k into it so I'm underwater already (not that it matters - it's a car).

[Gccch]

That's a great point. Are you going to regret getting rid of the Marauder?

I really like the MM. My plan was to use it as a weekend cruiser for fun trips. Fits the wife, dog baggage, and is lots of fun to have modified it myself with Marty's help of course). So yes, I would miss it.

But the MM will decay and lose value rapidly. In a perfect world I would keep it and buy the Porsche. But I don't have enough garage space!

[RubberCtyRauder]

Cayman S are cool, and will also lose value and no room for wife, luggage, dog, supplies...I can understand wanting it though, I want one too.. LOL

[stevengerard]

tough decision but two completely different cars. The Cayman S is a great fun car and a huge value as far as performance and durability goes for track fun. I don't see the MM going up in value or down that much. Most old collectable cars either have next to no miles on them or lots. People will pay a premium for a low mileage 1964 vette but will it really matter whether your vette has 100k or 199k. After 100k miles its usually options and condition not miles that matter. I'd never own a low mileage car as first of all I'd never be able to afford one. Secondly, the minute you drive it around the block it loses value - what's the fun in that. I drive my W30s as often as I can.

[lifespeed]

It doesn't make sense to get hung up on car value, depreciation, etc. They all cost money and lose value, unless they have lost it already. Then you can agonize over sinking thousands of dollars into a car that isn't worth much (Marauder), or spending big $$ on a car that will lose half its value in a few years (Porsche).

Choose whichever one works best for you, and don't sweat putting miles on it whichever one you decide to keep. Drive the wheels off it!

I would come down firmly on the side of keeping the Marauder if it weren't for your commute issue. It sounds like you don't currently have a car with good fuel economy? Tough call.

[Gccch]

It doesn't make sense to get hung up on car value, depreciation, etc. They all cost money and lose value, unless they have lost it already. Then you can agonize over sinking thousands of dollars into a car that isn't worth much (Marauder), or spending big $$ on a car that will lose half its value in a few years (Porsche).

Choose whichever one works best for you, and don't sweat putting miles on it whichever one you decide to keep. Drive the wheels off it!

I would come down firmly on the side of keeping the Marauder if it weren't for your commute issue. It sounds like you don't currently have a car with good fuel economy? Tough call.

This is true, the best fuel economy I can get now is with the MM. The commute is more of an issue when you consider I hate working.

The Porsche is rated at 30 MPG highway.

The one I am considering has already depreciated significantly while only having 800 miles logged. So I would be in the best possible position of buying at the right time. New car, used price. I figure if I drive either one equally the net loss in value would be $20k over 80-100k miles. MM would be at 116, Cayman at 100.

Funny, but I am thinking mostly about how the dog fits in. I really like this little guy.

[stevengerard]

yes but the fuel economy doesn't include the cost of a "new" used car. There is a cost to that. Fuel economy drives me crazy with a suburban, an MM and multiple 455s I average 12 mpg at the most. The cost of another car is typically a much larger difference than the savings in gas.

[junior]

yes but the fuel economy doesn't include the cost of a "new" used car. There is a cost to that. Fuel economy drives me crazy with a suburban, an MM and multiple 455s I average 12 mpg at the most. The cost of another car is typically a much larger difference than the savings in gas.

This plus the cost of maintaining a Porsche. I'm sure the cost of maintenance and parts for it exceed any vehicle you now own. Have to figure out the fun factor.

[Motorhead350]

If you want a Porsche more than a Marauder buy the Porsche.

It seems like this thread was a reach out to motivate you to keep the Marauder, but clearly your desire is for another vehicle.

[lifespeed]

This is true, the best fuel economy I can get now is with the MM. The commute is more of an issue when you consider I hate working.

The Porsche is rated at 30 MPG highway.

The one I am considering has already depreciated significantly while only having 800 miles logged. So I would be in the best possible position of buying at the right time. New car, used price. I figure if I drive either one equally the net loss in value would be $20k over 80-100k miles. MM would be at 116, Cayman at 100.

Funny, but I am thinking mostly about how the dog fits in. I really like this little guy.

One thing I will mention (because you mentioned Porsche) is the handling and road holding of the Marauder can be dramatically improved compared to OEM. This goes beyond Addco sway bars and includes performance shocks, springs, wheels and tires. The end result is these cars can be made to stick like you would not believe. And don't forget the big brakes while you're at it.

Or buy the Porsche if that is what you want. :)

[stevengerard]

One thing I will mention (because you mentioned Porsche) is the handling and road holding of the Marauder can be dramatically improved compared to OEM. This goes beyond Addco sway bars and includes performance shocks, springs, wheels and tires. The end result is these cars can be made to stick like you would not believe. And don't forget the big brakes while you're at it.

Or buy the Porsche if that is what you want. :)

You are correct as I autocross the MM but you can't compare the MM to a Caymen. Not even close, not to say the MM isn't fun.

[lifespeed]

You are correct as I autocross the MM but you can't compare the MM to a Caymen. Not even close, not to say the MM isn't fun.

I did not mean to imply they are comparable, just wanted to point out there is a lot of untapped potential most Marauder owners haven't experienced. Conversely, a Porsche isn't much of a Marauder substitute. Different rides.

[stevengerard]

well said.

[daddyusmaximus]

Trading the regret of parting ways with one car for the regret of parting ways with another is not a trade I would make.

Bingo. :bows:


This is true, the best fuel economy I can get now is with the MM. The commute is more of an issue when you consider I hate working.

The Porsche is rated at 30 MPG highway.

The one I am considering has already depreciated significantly while only having 800 miles logged. So I would be in the best possible position of buying at the right time. New car, used price. I figure if I drive either one equally the net loss in value would be $20k over 80-100k miles. MM would be at 116, Cayman at 100.

Funny, but I am thinking mostly about how the dog fits in. I really like this little guy.


I NEVER make a decision about a vehicle based on resale value. Maybe if I were very rich, and buying cars as investment, but that would be the only time.

The only value there is to me of anything I own, is how much I like it, and what it can do for me. A Porsche would be very fun to drive, (how the hell would I know) but I would say only make that choice if the Porsche can make you happier than your Marauder does. You have to think about the puppy too.

[lifespeed]

Stick shift in traffic sucks.

[stevengerard]

two pedal dual clutch PDK is an option, but I'd go for three pedals anyway

[RubberCtyRauder]

Insurance for Cayman S prolly a lot higher and cost of service at a porches dealer. Just things to consider in the whole picture .

[Mebot]

I NEVER make a decision about a vehicle based on resale value. Maybe if I were very rich, and buying cars as investment, but that would be the only time.

The only value there is to me of anything I own, is how much I like it, and what it can do for me. A Porsche would be very fun to drive, (how the hell would I know) but I would say only make that choice if the Porsche can make you happier than your Marauder does. You have to think about the puppy too.

This ^^^^^^^^^

Can't stop the signal...

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

You could always find storage for the MM/Porsche and keep both if you really wanted to.

[Gccch]

This plus the cost of maintaining a Porsche. I'm sure the cost of maintenance and parts for it exceed any vehicle you now own. Have to figure out the fun factor.

Haha... except when I figure all the performance mods to try and get the MM to perform like a Porsche!! I think I'm going to pass on this opportunity. I have owned a Cayman and loved it but my vision with the MM was to take weekend cruises with the wife and dog where everyone can be comfortable. It's not all about me after all!!

Appreciate all the comments. It's good to have a bunch of random MM owners to use as a sounding board!

Could change my mind tomorrow but I think I'm pretty much there.

Gotta get those Corvette brakes installed this summer!

[Gccch]

You could always find storage for the MM/Porsche and keep both if you really wanted to.

I've been thinking the same thing all day.

[RubberCtyRauder]

I fully understand the modification bug. And I have my eyes on other cars too, just not done marauding yet.:D

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

I've been thinking the same thing all day.

My local storage prices have surged recently, but even then it is still worth it as I know I will kick myself if I get rid of mine..or would be furious to have hail damage from just leaving it sitting outside.

[Mike M]

I sold my Marauder in the beginning of this year. I owned it since new and did a lot of mods (see my Sig) and when I watched it go down the road with new owner I just about cried and had actual pain in my gut. I bought a 2016 Stingray but it took 4 weeks to get to me. Now that I have it I know I did the right thing. The car is amazing...fast (mid 11's) handles over a G laterally and stops stupid fast and looks very cool.

If I had sold the Marauder and not gotten anything cool to replace it I would still be heart broken. As long as your getting a nice Porsche you will be happy.

[gpfarrell]

I still have a Trilogy and we bought a '15 911 Targa S last year. Drove it to work today. Find myself driving the Targa more often than the Trilogy. Not getting rid of the Mercury... ever... but judging by what I tend to pick in the morning, if I could only have one, it looks like it would be the P-car.

My favorite part of the Porsche isn't how fast it goes, but how enjoyable it is to drive even when you aren't going fast.

[daddyusmaximus]

Haha... except when I figure all the performance mods to try and get the MM to perform like a Porsche!! I think I'm going to pass on this opportunity. I have owned a Cayman and loved it but my vision with the MM was to take weekend cruises with the wife and dog where everyone can be comfortable. It's not all about me after all!!

Appreciate all the comments. It's good to have a bunch of random MM owners to use as a sounding board!

Could change my mind tomorrow but I think I'm pretty much there.

Gotta get those Corvette brakes installed this summer!

With mods, the Marauder can be Porsche fast, but good luck getting a Cayman to be roomy with ANY amount of mods. Look at it like your Vette you are building, the Marauder (a very nice starting point) is something you build. Any rich guy can throw down money and buy a Porsche.

Yes, I want a Porsche myself.

Yes, I'd have one if I could afford it. (and still have my Marauder)

Yes, I'm trying to influence you into keeping the Marauder.

If I had to choose only one, I'd modify the hell out of my Marauder so I could scare Porsche owners. YMMV.

[Gccch]

With mods, the Marauder can be Porsche fast, but good luck getting a Cayman to be roomy with ANY amount of mods. Look at it like your Vette you are building, the Marauder (a very nice starting point) is something you build. Any rich guy can throw down money and buy a Porsche.

Yes, I want a Porsche myself.

Yes, I'd have one if I could afford it. (and still have my Marauder)

Yes, I'm trying to influence you into keeping the Marauder.

If I had to choose only one, I'd modify the hell out of my Marauder so I could scare Porsche owners. YMMV.

Good stuff! I do agree and would like to have both but at this point the count of total vehicles is (1) annoying the wife and (2) beyond my garage space and (3) just a high priced toy. The other two are hobbies.

By the way, I don't consider the $40k Cayman in the same category of the $80k 911 but it is perceived that way due to the limited number seen on the roads. If the Marauder was being produced today it would probably be in the same price range.

I'm going to pass on this one.

[Mr. Man]

How about selling the F-150 and getting a small pick-up or a Subaru wagon type car.

[crownvic97]

Good stuff! I do agree and would like to have both but at this point the count of total vehicles is (1) annoying the wife and (2) beyond my garage space and (3) just a high priced toy. The other two are hobbies.

By the way, I don't consider the $40k Cayman in the same category of the $80k 911 but it is perceived that way due to the limited number seen on the roads. If the Marauder was being produced today it would probably be in the same price range.

I'm going to pass on this one.

Number one is why my fleet size fluctuates :D