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427435
05-23-2004, 08:56 AM
Although I have a deposit down on an MM, I like a lot of the features of the Dodge Magnum. The local Mercury/Dodge dealer (yes, that's right), who my current lease car came through, got a red, hemi powered magnum in last week. The lease car guy gave me the keys to it and I took it for a drive.

The ride/handling is excellent---smooth, quiet but with good control. The independent Mercedes rear suspension gets the job done better than the MM. On the other hand, the MM interior is much, much nicer and "richer".

Looks are in the beholder's eye---the MM is a 12 year old design while the Magnum is new and fresh. I prefer the MM.

The station wagon back, however, would be much more verstile and useful. By the way, the battery is located in the back, next to the mini spare---makes for better weight distribution. The lease guy (a car buff, unlike most salesmen) claimed a 51/49 front/rear weight distribution which would make the Magnum a lot better rear wheel drive car to drive in Minnesota winters (not to mention better handling, as well)

The 5 speed transmission also worked well and the slap/shift up-down is interesting.

Finally, the Hemi. I wasn't that impressed. Yes, it's a strong running, big sedan (sorry, station wagon) but it didn't feel any stronger than the MM I drove. The car had 80 miles on it so it might break-in a little more but not that much. I pulled onto a level, new piece of asphalt (in the country) and did a couple of 0-60 runs with a stopwatch (the salesman wasn't with me). I got 7.5 and 7.9 seconds to 60. Yes, I know that there are a lot of variables with hand timing, but I've timed other things and I'm usually inside of a 1/2 second. If the car magazines get times in the 5 second range (like an article on the Chrysler 300 C said), then they are getting a lot stronger engines than this dealer did in this Magnum.

If you turned the traction control off and brake torqued it heavy, you could leave some serious rubber. The 7.9 run was with the traction control on and no brake torque which resulted in a brief chirp. The 7.5 was with the traction control off and a little more brake torque---a little more rubber and a little better time. But it wasn't a mid 6 second car. By the way, the same kind of tests for my Sable and old Grand Marquis resulted in mid 9's for both of them. Never tryed to do it with the Vette as the first shift is at 60 mph---and there is too much stuff happening (including trying to maintain steering control) to try and run a stop watch too!!! :D

Bottom line, I'm staying with the MM. The interior is much nicer and (despite its age), I like the looks better. The 5 speed and independent rear suspension of the Magnum just won't do as much for me, in my daily 130 mile daily round trip commute, as the MM's interior. The MM will probably draw less attention from the law, also.

Dodge will sell a bunch of these, however.

I would like to hear of the results of any head to head contest between a stock MM and one of these Chrysler 330 C or Dodge Magnums

MAD-3R's Wife
05-23-2004, 09:49 AM
I too looked at a Dodge Magnum. However, the bar in back of the rear seats does not go away so you don't have the cubic that the PT Cruiser has (yes the older ones not the convertible). When I compared my Cruiser to the Magnum, the cruiser came out ahead for straight carrying capacity (considering I have gotten a bathtub into the back of it and closed the rear hatch).

While the Magnum is RWD and the PT is FWD, I find that I am preferring the PT for the look, carrying capacity and well....(I guess its best to say) its Paid Off.

Now that doesn't mean that I don't steal his Marauder whenever I can and I am looking at buying a new vehicle. I still like my little PT Cruiser.

bigslim
05-23-2004, 11:25 AM
Nice to see someone else with a MM and a PT. I love my PT too.

joflewbyu2
05-23-2004, 11:36 AM
I test drove the 300m last week. All I can say is BORING. Definately did NOT FEEL fast than my MM. Very smooth shifting and very relaxed. Felt like the DTS caddy. Big and fast BUT BORING. Keep in mind my performance mods - not many - just chip, exhaust and K&N panel filter.

jettle
05-23-2004, 03:32 PM
80 miles on it and its already been tested to 60 a few times and preformed some burnouts. This is exactly why I hate buying a car that has been test driven. :rolleyes:

BillyGman
05-23-2004, 05:58 PM
80 miles on it and its already been tested to 60 a few times and preformed some burnouts. This is exactly why I hate buying a car that has been test driven. :rolleyes:

No biggie IMO.........

BTW, I agree that the Marauder is definately better looking, and infact the looks of the magnum alone would prevent me from buying it even if it moved like a Viper, but that review was interesting to read anyway. Thanks.

427435
05-23-2004, 07:40 PM
First, I'm not crazy about buying a car with a lot of "demo" miles either. However, I didn't do any full throttle stuff until I had put over 8 miles of highway driving on it and had it fully warmed up. I also didn't brake torque it a bunch either. What I did isn't going to hurt anything. What other drivers did during the first 80 miles, I don't know. Full throttle runs with a cold engine aren't a great idea.

Finally, the main reason to consider a hemi Magnum is its performance. I'm not paying 30 big ones for a performance car without knowing pretty well what's it going to do.

jettle
05-23-2004, 08:04 PM
Finally, the main reason to consider a hemi Magnum is its performance. I'm not paying 30 big ones for a performance car without knowing pretty well what's it going to do.[/QUOTE]



Sorry, I was not aiming at anything personal. I would not blame you if you beat the snot out of it since the dealer just threw you the keys. I would just not want to be the one that paid 30 large for it after..:)

You nailed it with the quote I captured from you. Alotta people are going to feel the same way. But, buy a car with 300 demo miles on it and you can guarantee that is was driven really hard by many people testing er out.

teamrope
05-23-2004, 08:17 PM
Buy a car with 300 demo miles on it and you can guarantee that is was driven really hard by many people testing er out.
I know what you mean. Mine had 400+ miles. I know one of the sales guys had it sideways out the lot once.

I got it 9K under sticker, and also went with the 100K waranty. Any damage done will show up by then, so I'm good.

Bradley G
05-23-2004, 08:18 PM
Finally, the main reason to consider a hemi Magnum is its performance. I'm not paying 30 big ones for a performance car without knowing pretty well what's it going to do.


Sorry, I was not aiming at anything personal. I would not blame you if you beat the snot out of it since the dealer just threw you the keys. I would just not want to be the one that paid 30 large for it after..:)

You nailed it with the quote I captured from you. Alotta people are going to feel the same way. But, buy a car with 300 demo miles on it and you can guarantee that is was driven really hard by many people testing er out.[/QUOTE] You should see what we do to em during a factory sponsered "ride&drive" Manufacture's bring competitors vehicles to private location for us to check out & punish :banana:

RCSignals
05-24-2004, 01:20 AM
Looks are in the beholder's eye---the MM is a 12 year old design while the Magnum is new and fresh. I prefer the MM.


Thats true about the Marauder's basic styling. However, it still doesn't look dated, in comparison to other cars that still carry styling from that time frame. for example, the Buick.

I see many "new" cars that carry similar design elements as the Marauder

Macon Marauder
05-24-2004, 06:54 AM
There was a new Chrysler 300 (not a hemi, but the V6 model) parked in the lot near our Saturday meet. Looked small in person. Not impressed, but my teenaged son thought it was cool.

Not for me, but at least Detroit is waking up to RWD again.