My 1/4 mile ET's:

[BillyGman]

I just came back from the racetrack in New Jersey. As always, it was a three hour drive there, and a three and a half hour drive back home for me. But I'm glad that i went since, it was the first time that I got to race my car on the track since I installed the Trilogy S/Cer.

It was very crowded, so I was only able to get in three runs. They are as follows:

1st run 12.466 seconds w/a 1.741 60 foot time. But the tires were spinning due to me having too much pressure in them (25 PSI).

2nd run was better since I took the tire pressure down to 22 PSI, and changed my launch technique..... 12.292 sec and a 1.682 60' the tires hooked pretty good.

3rd run.... 12.240 sec and a 1.663 60'

I have the standard 3.4" Trilogy pulley that comes w/their Supercharger. I have NOT had the car dyno tuned. Just Dyno tested.

[BillyGman]

here's two of my three time slips.....

[martyo]

Billy: Way cool! We will need to make some passes in December and I bet you will be into the 11's!

BTW: Were you at Atco or E-Town?

[Marauderjack]

Nice going Billy!!!!! :beer:

Marauderjack :D

[MarauderMark]

Holy S :censor: Bill.Great time !!! Your knocking on the 11's door... :banana2:

[Smokie]

Bill, WOW !!!!:bows: :bows: :bows: Cold air should get you into 11's.

[FiveO]

Very nice.

:up:

[sailsmen]

Nice Times! :banana2: :banana2:

[MI2QWK4U]

Billy, those are stellar numbers! Looks like i need to get those kooks headers to stay with you! Now do you understand what I was trying to tell you about on the phone when you were trying to decide if you were getting the blower! With a little stroking, we will both be in the high 11's...

[89lxbill]

Man that is a scorcher for this time of year :bounce: Should get lower in the fall.

[TAF]

Nice runs Billy!!!! I was at the track (1/8 mile) on Friday night with my car...it sure is fun to be fast....AND to have the best looking/sounding car there...isn't it.

I bet you were blowin some minds with those times for some folks...:up: :burnout:

[MARAUDER S/C #5]

Nice job Billy! :burnout: :banana2: :bounce: :up:

[sailsmen]

Your 60' time is amazing! :banana2:

Was the track sticking real good, what was your launch technique?

Looks like based on the trap speed vs 60' time with the pulley you have the psi maybe dropping off at the peak rpm's. Do you have a boost guage or did you get boost readings when it was dynoed?

[TripleTransAm]

Awesome results. All you need is slightly cooler air and to make sure you eat lots of fiber the night before, and you've got 11s.

I just spotted your MPH. That's what my WS6 is pulling in the 1/4, but cannot do better than 13.4. Just shows the different nature of the powerband along with the car's physical and drivetrain characteristics... I recall someone arguing many months ago that a quarter mile ET directly related to a trap speed and weight, but I think this proves it's much more than just that.

Cool results. Time to go educate your friends at work. ;)

[woaface]

Very cool Billy, very cool!

[BlackHole]

Nice like many here should be better in the fall

[QWK SVT]

Awesome results. All you need is slightly cooler air and to make sure you eat lots of fiber the night before, and you've got 11s.

I just spotted your MPH. That's what my WS6 is pulling in the 1/4, but cannot do better than 13.4. Just shows the different nature of the powerband along with the car's physical and drivetrain characteristics... I recall someone arguing many months ago that a quarter mile ET directly related to a trap speed and weight, but I think this proves it's much more than just that.

Cool results. Time to go educate your friends at work. ;)
ET is directly related to power, weight, gearing, driver ability and traction. That's a lot of variables, that can impact/skew the results. Trap speed is a great tool by itself, but it's very difficult to compare two very different vehicles...

A car's trap speed's consistency makes it a great tool, to compare before's and after's, or like car to like car differences. For science projects, this is a fun way to find out how much was. For example, last year, my Lightning ran 12.9 @ 106. After having the blower ported, I ran a 12.8 @ 108 (with a bad 60'). ET only dropped one tenth, but trap speed went up 2mph. What happened? Power went up, driver capability went down :rolleyes: Based on other Lightnings, running the same mph, a mid 12 is in order, if I can figure out how to launch on the OEM rubber.

[TripleTransAm]

My point at the time was that the engine's power characteristics (not necessarily the peak numbers, if you get my drift) determined the ET to MPH relationship (along with the car weight, drivetrain, and all the variables like driver skill and traction etc.).

My examples were the F-body guys who were comparing similar weight similar drivetrain 4th gen F-bodies with only the engine changes (the '98+ used the LS1, the 93-97 used the LT1). A 107 mph trap speed in an LT1 Trans Am results in a low low 13. A 107 trap speed in an LS1 seems to result in mid 13s. (A 107 trap speed in a 3rd gen (late 80s, early 90s) with the torquier low-end motor seems to nail mid 12s!!).

I like to use MPH as an approximation of engine peak hp, but with ETs it's anybody's guess!

Side note: used to be a time I felt I was king of the hill with my 13.4 @ 107 mph performance out of my T/A! ;) Amazing how performance in general is improving (and with good fuel economy too :lol: )

[BillyGman]

Thanks guys for your replies, and even for your questions too. I'm very happy of the results I've obtained at the track. I absolutely knew that my car would get into the 12 second bracket on the track, but where in the 12's I didn't know. I remember telling people that I'd be anywhere from 12.2-12.8, but I would've been happy w/anything in that range. However, I'm simply ecstatic that it's turned out to be the best part of that ET range that I hoped for!!! Now I fully understand why I beat that modified 98 Camaro SS lastweek. The owner told me that he ran a 12.4 ET at the Labanon, NY racetrack w/that car. And I beat him by about two car lengths twice.

Yesterday was only the third time I raced at the track, and all three times were w/my Marauder, but at various stages of modification. So each time was a very different experience. I just wish that we had a racetrack here in Connecticut, because making the trek back from the track through that utterly insane New York traffic is a major hassle, and very time consuming at best. I always have to crank up the music, open the windows, and even do an occassional burnout while sitting in those mile-long lines for the tolls simply to keep myself from falling asleep at the wheel.

When car enthusiasts that are in some of the vehicles on side of me roll down their windows and start asking me things like "Wow, what kind of car is that?", or "What the heck do you have under that hood?" just like they did once again lastnight, then I start waking up!!!

Yeterday's track experience was unlike any I've had yet. It started out very aggrivating. This event was almost completely geared toward vehicles that are just a hair short of funny cars. Most of the cars there were pro stock, and Supergas, and a good number of them were dragsters. There were only four vehicles racing that weren't trailered-in, and my car was one of the four. At first I felt out of place. Furthermore the people working at the track new close to nothing about what was going on, and how things work there at their place of employment, nor did they seem to care either. I had to talk to the owner as to what class I was actually in since I got four different answers from four different track employees. And the owner was NOT easy to find either. I'm probably lucky that he was even there.

I got into line in the staging lanes w/my car, and was kicked out three times. Each time they told me that I didn't belong there, and that was not my class even though the guy at the loudspeaker called for "stock". I was told by the woman at the registering gate that I'm "Stock Eliminator" but I never heard the guy at the loudspeaker say "stock Eliminator" so the entire day became a guessing game, and nobody was giving me answers.

It was as if they didn't want me there, but didn't have the boldness to come right out and tell me that I didn't belong there. I was about to go home, but then I finally got to race for the first time, and then everything turned around when they saw what ET's my car was turning. I was turning better times w/my Marauder than a number of the guys w/trailered cars w/roll cages were!!

Don't get me wrong. Most of the cars there were serious machines that were in the 9 and 10 second brackets. But amongst them were also many drivers that looked to me like wanna-bees who had trailered cars w/roll cages and slicks that were running low 13's and high 12's. And they didn't look very happy when I began turning better times than they were. The ones who were turning mid 12's and low 12's like me were very entusiastic about my car though.

I had one guy drive up to me w/his car, stick his head out the window and say "How did you get that thing to go that fast?" I replied...."It's supercharged"....and he said, yeah, but still, I dunno how you run so fast" he also said later on in the day, "Ya know, I had a 427 powered Cobra in the 60's that turned the same 12.2 that you're turning today"........

One guy I ran had a 460 engine under the hood and slicks, and I was within one tenth of a second to him. After the race he said to me, "Man, I saw your car and thought, okay, that's about a 15 second car. But when I looked for your car in my side view mirror right before the finish line and saw you were right next to me, I was shocked!!" To give you an idea of the flavor of this entire event, let me explain that I was one of only four cars that didn't have slicks on it, and I was the only one who had drag radials on my car. All these guys were old school, and all had carbureted engines.

So it turned out to be a good day at the track. A couple seconds before I started my burnout for my last run, I heard the announcer say, "And here's that Mercury Marauder that ran an amazing 12.2 the last time out....." I wanted to pause to hear what else he was saying about my car, but the guy was signaling me to get going and do my burnout. So it was a good day.

Even the two people at the timeslip booth were looking at my timeslip, amd pointing to my car as I approached them for my timeslip after my first run. And when I came to a stop and reached my hand out the window, the lady said to me "Does your wife know you're out here racing the family car?"

[sailsmen]

"Does your wife know your'e out here racing the family car?"


Funniest thing I have ever read on this board! :lol:

[BillyGman]

okay, sorry for that long post. It was just such an overwhelming day for me that had both good and bad, that I had to tell you. Let me address some of the questions and comments here.......



Billy: Way cool! We will need to make some passes in December and I bet you will be into the 11's!

BTW: Were you at Atco or E-Town?
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Marty, I was in Atco. I'd like to go back to the track in the Fall, yes. We can meet John there too (aka "Jet") since he's just told me over the phone that he wants to go in the fall. I think that mid November would be better.


Nice going Billy!!!!!

Marauderjack
Thanks Jack.

Holy S :censor: Bill.Great time !!! Your knocking on the 11's door...
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Bill, WOW !!!!:bows: :bows: :bows: Cold air should get you into 11's.
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Mark & Smokie, yes I agree. A 25-30 degree reduction in air temperature will usually net atleast a 3 tenths reduction in ET's. So for my car an 11.9 ET is very likely in cold air.

Billy, those are stellar numbers! Looks like i need to get those kooks headers to stay with you! Now do you understand what I was trying to tell you about on the phone when you were trying to decide if you were getting the blower! With a little stroking, we will both be in the high 11's...
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Dave, again, thanks for all the help that you gave to me over the phone, and for putting up w/my bazillion questions that I hit you with. ofcourse I now fully understand your enthusiasm for the Trilogy blower package since I now share that same enthusiasm w/you myself.

As far as the Kooks headers, yes, they contribute to my ET's but you cannot rule out the 4.56 gears I have, as well as the Stallion converter, which provides better torque multiplication regardless of the stall speed used. ofcourse the choice of stall speed of 3,000 RPM's I've made turns out to be fine anyway in light of my ET's, but the Stallion converter is no slouch, and NOT to be compared to the stock converter since the stock converter does NOT compare IMO.

Nice runs Billy!!!! I was at the track (1/8 mile) on Friday night with my car...it sure is fun to be fast....AND to have the best looking/sounding car there...isn't it.

I bet you were blowin some minds with those times for some folks...
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Yep, you're absolutely correct on that Todd. Before my first run, nobody payed much attention to my car at the track like they do on the street. I'm not used to people overlooking my car like that since our cars look great. So I didn't like that. I felt like yelling out "What's wrong w/you people? Does a car have to have slicks and wheelie bars for you to appreciate it?"

But like I said, that was BEFORE my first run. Once they saw me get into the 12 second bracket, things changed. You have two groups of people at the track. Enthusiasts, who all came over to look under the hood, and gaze w/smiles on their faces, and then came all the positive questions and comments after that.

And then you have the Pro racing guys who are all business, and walk over, look at the engine to study it, and w/a stone face just stand there for a minute w/their eyes fixed to that engine trying to figure out what makes this car go so fast, and then they walk away w/out even looking at you nor saying anything at all. That's okay, cuz I know they're impressed also. Otherwise they would've never walked over to look in the first place. It's really funny how fast you become a celebrity at the track once you get into the 12's w/a 4200 LB car, and one that looks as good as the Marauder does.

I mean people knew more about my times than I did! I said to one guy what ET I ran, and another guy corrected me by pointing out that I was wrong, and that my ET was actually 3 onehundeths of a second faster than what I just claimed!!!!......

Your 60' time is amazing!

Was the track sticking real good, what was your launch technique?

Looks like based on the trap speed vs 60' time with the pulley you have the psi maybe dropping off at the peak rpm's. Do you have a boost guage or did you get boost readings when it was dynoed?
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As far as Launch technique, I can tell you right now that w/a heavy car like this, and w/4.56's you can forget about brake torqing by loading up the converter. I tried it, and it resulted in nothing but wheelspin, and worse 60' times. W/these drag radials, 4.56 gears, and a roots blower under the hood, you just stomp on the pedal and those tires grab, if you're on the track(ofcourse on the road you'll smoke em up that way since there's no traction compound on the asphalt like there is on the track, and your PSI is around 30 instead of at 20 or so like you run at the track). If anybody wants to dispute that techique, then I say to them to accomplish a 60' time as good as mine first, and then you can tell me about it. Until you do, then you can't argue.

And BTW your guess about the PSI dropping off at high RPM's is wrong. The reason for my trap speed and 60' times are all a result of my gear choice (4.56's). But I'll take a 12.2 ET anyday regardless of trap speeds. So what good are higher trap speeds if your ET's are also higher?....

Awesome results. All you need is slightly cooler air and to make sure you eat lots of fiber the night before, and you've got 11s.

I just spotted your MPH. That's what my WS6 is pulling in the 1/4, but cannot do better than 13.4. Just shows the different nature of the powerband along with the car's physical and drivetrain characteristics... I recall someone arguing many months ago that a quarter mile ET directly related to a trap speed and weight, but I think this proves it's much more than just that.

Cool results. Time to go educate your friends at work.
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Steve, as always you have some intersting and thought provoking comments. "Lots of fiber" LOL, that's a good one......11's in 40 degree temperatures will be attainable. I don't doubt that at all. As far as my car's trap speeds being lower vs. much better ET's it has a lot to do w/the car's weight being more than a Camaro, but much of this also has to do w/my gear choice of a 4.56:1 ratio. My 60' times are right there w/Lidio's even though his ET's are .6 seconds better, and his car has 75 more peak HP than mine does at the wheels. That's because of the gears.

And yes, now I know why that guy in the modified Camaro SS coudn't keep up w/me. I'm definately hurting a lot of feelings w/this car. Thanks to Jerry Barnes and Trilogy Motorsports. And ofcourse a big thanks to Lidio of Alternative Auto too since he's the one who burns all the chips for the Trilogy Supercharger kits.

"Does your wife know your'e out here racing the family car?"


Funniest thing I have ever read on this board!
Yeah, I was laughing at that one too when she said it.
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[sailsmen]

Billy, my point was I think based on your 60' you have the potential for a better ET. Roots being a postive displacement do drop off at the higher RPMs. I thought the smaller pulley others are running w/ the Roots might help you get a lower ET.

[BillyGman]

Billy, my point was I think based on your 60' you have the potential for a better ET. Roots being a postive displacement do drop off at the higher RPMs. I thought the smaller pulley others are running w/ the Roots might help you get a lower ET.Oh, I definately would have a better ET w/a smaller pulley since the smaller ones make the S/Cer run faster resulting in more boost pressure. but really, I'm satisfied w/low 12's in June. I'm in Dodge Viper territory w/a car that registered 4,444 LBs w/a half tank of gas and a 205 LB driver sitting in it (me).

besides that, the smaller pulley will mean more whining noise from the S/cer, and I don't particurly like that. you can barely hear my S/cer at all, and I like that. Just look at those two burnout videos I've posted. Do you hear the S/Cer? I doubt it. i didn't. And I had the engine up to 6600 RPM's in both of those video clips. With the Kooks header and exhaust sytem, and the Trilogy standard 3.4" pulley, you hear mostly the great exhaust note, and that's the way I like it.

12.2's in the quarter is fine w/me. This car is the fastest daily driver around, and it's a blast to drive. That's been my goal, and I've obtained it. I'm completely satisfied w/this car the way it is. if I got into the 11's consistently with it, they wouls kick me off the track for not having a roll cage in it. And I'm not putting a roll cage in a daily driver. It would ruin the great looks of the marauder's interior. This is legitimately a low 12 second daily driver, and how many people have that? very few. I can tell you that. Infact the only ones that I know of are all on this board.

[FiveO]

Billy,

Great story.

Can't wait to see heads turn and jaws drop when I hit the mid 12's!

[Logan]

And I'm not putting a roll cage in a daily driver. It would ruin the great looks of the marauder's interior. This is legitimately a low 12 second daily driver, and how many people have that?
Don't tell marty that... :)

[BillyGman]

Billy,

Great story.

Can't wait to see heads turn and jaws drop when I hit the mid 12's!
I'm glad you liked that story. i was hoping it wasn't so long as to be boring. I was definatley not bored at the track yesterday. that's for sure. Just wait till you get that S/Cer in your MM. Don't take this the wrong way, but after driving it a couple times, you'll be bored w/your 84 GT cuz it will seem slow after driving your Trilogy equipped MM.

[TAF]

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Don't tell marty that... :)
Gotta love that photoshop stuff...:rolleyes:

[BillyGman]

Don't tell marty that... :)HMMMM, well incase there's some inside info of some kind floating around here that isn't well known, then let me say that if anyone (including Marty) opts to put a roll cage in their car, be that a Marauder or not, then I'm sure that the car is no longer their daily driver. So if that's the case, then I'm sure that might be acceptable to some people. But like I said, MY CAR is a legit daily driver, and it always has been. Infact I even drive my car in the snow back and forth to work. I'm sure that isn't the case w/any car that has a roll cage.

And if it is, then that wouldn't be my cup of tea, since I think it would be out of place, and simply too extreme.

[tmac1337]

Billy, your getting fantastic results with the Trilogy S/C setup. Great track story.

[BillyGman]

Billy, your getting fantastic results with the Trilogy S/C setup. Great track story.
I'm very satisfied. I couldn't have expected anything more from this car than what the Trilogy S/cer has made it into. yes, I DO have other modifications that have helped to put this car into the low 12's but even w/out any of those other mods, I'm convinced that w/the Trilogy kit alone the car would still be in the high 12's unless the temperature was in the high 80's to low 90's, in which case you would be in the low 13's providing you also have these Nitto P305 drag radials that I've opted for.

[Marauderman]

Well , all I gotta say is ,isn't it fun owning a S/C 'd Marauder , ---that feel when you push that pedal down and that car
"keeps-on-a-gett'n it" like no other car --that "feeling "is there each and every time you want it--Oh how sweet! Yeah -I know the feeling ,,just like other S/C'ed MM owners on the board....we sure do know your feelings....this car is so :cool: l!! :burnout: ......Tom

[BillyGman]

yeah Tom. Ya know, the main reason I purchased the S/cer for my car was to enjoy the car more, and feel that acceleration when you hit the go pedal. But I've experienced a fringe benefit to all of that now that I have a S/Ced Marauder. People at the track shower you and your car w/attention like never before. It's a trip just to sit back and watch their reaction once you've accomplished a couple 12 second runs.

you feel like your car is on display at a circus show or something. it's something you have to experience to fully appreciate. Another thing too is the reactions of the people you've beaten in a race as well as the people who you didn't even race, but who's ET's have been beaten by yours. but even the guys who have better ET's than you are still amazed at how "fast" your car is. they see what a big tank it is, and how great looking it is, and they simply can't figure out how you've accomplished such a feat.

[Merc-O-matic]

Billy G Man

You make us all proud.....

Gotta Love It! :banana2:

[Logan]

Maybe I'm spoiled, but my 12 second Marauder almost seems old hat to me... After runnin' low 12's in a 4800lb 99 Lightning and daily driving that, Marauder just seems like a comfier 12 sec machine...Whoop-dee-doo...

I miss my truck still though...

Yep. I'm just spoiled. Nevermind me. I've been spending alot of time lately looking at 760i's, S600's, Jag S-Type R's, CTS-V's... Sigh...

hmmm... www.bmw760i.net...www.mercedes s600.net (http://www.bmw760i.net...www.mercedes s600.net)... dum dee dum..

;)

[TAF]

I know the cure for that ^^^....a 10 second Marauder.:up: :cool: ;)

[woaface]

Hey Logan, if you don't want it, I promise to take REALLY good care of it! I'll go to REAL driving classes and everything!!!

[BillyGman]

I think the Marauder looks waaaaay better than any truck will ever look anyway.Trucks are supposed to be for work IMO. But besides that, the fact that the vehicle in question weighs 4800 LBS, is also offset by it having an engine displacement of 5.4L which ofcourse is more than that of our 4.6L Marauders. So that has to be taken into account as well. Low 12's is Low 12's either way.

[FiveO]

I'm glad you liked that story. i was hoping it wasn't so long as to be boring. I was definatley not bored at the track yesterday. that's for sure. Just wait till you get that S/Cer in your MM. Don't take this the wrong way, but after driving it a couple times, you'll be bored w/your 84 GT cuz it will seem slow after driving your Trilogy equipped MM.


The 84 GT is just a toy...and its best run is 14.95 @ 93.7.

Other than the rims, gears, headers and exhaust its stock. Not really in the same class as a S/C Marauder...but I still love driving the 84...and I think that it will just be different than the MM.

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Didn't mean to hijack the thread....back to the great times at the track!!

[sailsmen]

"Yep. I'm just spoiled. Nevermind me. I've been spending alot of time lately looking at 760i's, S600's, Jag S-Type R's, CTS-V's... Sigh..."

Thye must all be in your rear view mirror! :rock:

None of those are 12 cars, they are only $50+K.

[Bluerauder]

"...snip..."

So it turned out to be a good day at the track. A couple seconds before I started my burnout for my last run, I heard the announcer say, "And here's that Mercury Marauder that ran an amazing 12.2 the last time out....." I wanted to pause to hear what else he was saying about my car, but the guy was signaling me to get going and do my burnout. So it was a good day.

Even the two people at the timeslip booth were looking at my timeslip, amd pointing to my car as I approached them for my timeslip after my first run. And when I came to a stop and reached my hand out the window, the lady said to me "Does your wife know you're out here racing the family car?"

Great numbers, Billy. Thanks for representin' us "Family Car" folks. :up:

[CRUZTAKER]

Nice job Billy....makin' us proud!

[Bradley G]

BillyGman "DA- MAN" great story !! Sometimes Newbies' can be overlooked. Glad you hung in there an "Git'in it on" for all the spectators ,Yourself & us . I like you, love catch'in the expressions on peoples faces when they stare at our MM's. I can only imagine what thier faces were like after you clocked those runs .:o keep up the good work:rock:

[Logan]

Thye must all be in your rear view mirror! :rock:

None of those are 12 cars, they are only $50+K.
I'm more about goin' bling bling, than just gettin' there quick. :) Plus, I beg to differ, a number of those cars are 12 second cars, don't believe everything the magazines blah blah at ya! :)

[David Morton]

HMMMM, well incase there's some inside info of some kind floating around here that isn't well known, then let me say that if anyone (including Marty) opts to put a roll cage in their car, be that a Marauder or not, then I'm sure that the car is no longer their daily driver. So if that's the case, then I'm sure that might be acceptable to some people. But like I said, MY CAR is a legit daily driver, and it always has been. Infact I even drive my car in the snow back and forth to work. I'm sure that isn't the case w/any car that has a roll cage.

And if it is, then that wouldn't be my cup of tea, since I think it would be out of place, and simply too extreme.Billy, you da man. :up:
'Boring' story? Don't you know us? Hello! Anybody home?
And this is a hoot..."simply too extreme." I'm ROFLMAO! 12 second "family car"! Not too extreme?
Let us know what you think is "too extreme"!
Oh, my stomach hurts. :D

[Logan]

I think the Marauder looks waaaaay better than any truck will ever look anyway.Trucks are supposed to be for work IMO.
It's official. You're nuts. Doctor!! Doctor!!! The mental patient has escaped again!!! :rasta:

[sailsmen]

You are right, I have noticed the the non-hotrod magazines run .5 to .6 slower in the 1/4. I doubt the hotrod mags are only running them in coooool weather.

[Bradley G]

Sorry Logan I'm with the car crowd , MM has more as you say," BLING BLING" than any truck, or that other list of imports ever will !! except the caddy , thats even worse!!:D

[HwyCruiser]

Billy,

Excellent report and results... You da' man! :up:

- JD

[BillyGman]

To each their own I guess Logan. Nuts? yeah, I know I am. That theory was established when I was born. but as far as trucks go, everybody is truck crazy these days. the Ford dealers I've been to have more trucks than they do cars. That's just strange to me. I like the Lightning engine since it has more displacement than ours do. But my like for the Lightning ends there. As far as the body style of it, and how it looks, I think the Dodge pick ups look a lot better.

I don't like the fact that Ford or Dodge offers such big high-HP engines in trucks for a little over 40K, but in order to get one of their cars w/such engines, you have to pay 90K or 150K. That just doesn't make sense to me. I mean how much sense does a truck like the Lightning make that can go fast, but yet can't even be driven in the snow since it's merely two wheel drive? To me that isn't even a real truck if you can't even put a snow plow on it. The thing isn't for work like a truck is supposed to be.


Anyway, thanks to everyone else for their positive comments, and support. Like I've already said, I was very pleased how well my Marauder did at the track. Now I know why I've been having so much fun driving it on the street!!!

[BillyGman]

I almost forgot to mention something about this whole track story of mine. I want to extend a special thanks to three friends of mine who attended the track w/me and who also brought a camera w/them and took a few pics of my burnout just before my first run. They're Bob (aka "Bob's Marauder" of this board) and his Daughter Shawna, and son Joe. I had a good time talking w/them and sharing this particular track experience w/them. Bob and his son Joe also came w/me last year to the track in Englishtown, NJ to race my car. Bob raced his stock marauder that day too. To the three of them, I say a big THANKS!!! ;)

[Jerry Barnes]

BillyG,

That was a great post! I have really enjoyed our customers posts since we started selling the S/C kit. It always amazes me how peoples reactions are always the same. John Taxin, Nathan, Dave, Lidio, Jim, etc.etc. all seem to have the same response as mine, What the hey have I got here!!! Lidio, Dave, Mike, Neil and the others in the Motor City have a chance to keep exchanging our stories every week, it's great to hear it from others.

Congratulations!!!!! Those are outstanding numbers!!!!!!

Enjoy my friend!!

[BillyGman]

Thanks Jerry. You have a great product. There's no disputing that.