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Mad4Macs
06-17-2004, 11:54 PM
Saw this at news.com.au

http://carsguide.news.com.au/news/story_page/0,8269,9869627%255E21822,00.ht ml

I just don't like the look of the car. A guy at work has one and I see them every day here, and they look like Cavaliers to me.

hitchhiker
06-18-2004, 12:24 AM
Saw this at news.com.au

http://carsguide.news.com.au/news/story_page/0,8269,9869627%255E21822,00.ht ml

I just don't like the look of the car. A guy at work has one and I see them every day here, and they look like Cavaliers to me.

Link Does Not work.

Macs don't either.

:lol:

studio460
06-18-2004, 12:31 AM
Link worked for me--good story!

Patrick
06-18-2004, 01:04 AM
Link worked thanks! A thought. If you make a car that everyone has what makes it special????My point I am tired of seeing PT cruisers. I like what ford did with the MM!!!!!!!!!!

Gunslinger
06-18-2004, 01:33 AM
Definately Cavalieresque in the photo and the front end is too much like Grand am/prix.

Shouldn't a GTO have a scoop on her hood?

Article in the July MM&FF GTO vs. Mach 1; Mach 1 but its close


(Anyone remember the Superfans? Ditka vs. God...God but its close)

merc406
06-18-2004, 05:23 AM
It's overpriced, if they made it affordable like the first GTO was then they might sell like "HotCakes" :lol: :D

Bluerauder
06-18-2004, 06:47 AM
Definately Cavalieresque in the photo and the front end is too much like Grand am/prix.
My observation also --- looks too much like other Pontiacs of the Gran Prix or Grand Am mold. Not distinctive enough in appearance to warrant the extra bucks. Selling on track for 7,500 this year (about 600-650 per month) according to the article. That means there should be some "deep discounts" on the 1,000 that will be left over from the 2004 production run.

SHERIFF
06-18-2004, 11:17 AM
I always wonder if Pontiac made a 2005 model, an exact replica of a 1966 or 1967 GTO......... how well it would sell. I would stand in line for 3 weeks to order one, and I would be willing to wait 6 months for delivery.

The same is true of all the old cars..... 1969 Charger R/T, 1970 Charger R/T, 1969 Trans Am, 1969 Z-28, the old Hemi Cudas, the Superbird, 1970 Chevelle SS 454, etc.......

I wonder what prevents just one manufacturer from trying something like this and seeing how well sales work out?

SHERIFF
06-18-2004, 11:21 AM
It's overpriced, if they made it affordable like the first GTO was then they might sell like "HotCakes" :lol: :D


In my opinion, the same is true of the 2003 and 2004 Marauder. If Mercury had kept the MSRP around $29,000 to $30,000 they would have sold like hotcakes. As it turned out, Mercury and dealers ended up discounting them to $27,000 and $28,000 just to sell them and clear the lots.

the fat bastid
06-18-2004, 02:22 PM
In my opinion, the same is true of the 2003 and 2004 Marauder.

thats what a lot of people thought.
then it was confirmed by steve babcock himself.
he wanted the car under 30k...aka $29,995
but the bean coutners jacked it to $35,000

so no debating that but with the gto i do think its a bit pricey and dont forget dealer markups....
it was out of my price range but the marauder wasn't. according to the demographics that should be the oppisite("younger folks want the sports coupe! old folks want the 4 door luxobarge!") but i couldn't afford the gto...i could afford a marauder. how odd.

p.s. i dont want a gto, just making a point....assuming there is one in that rambling mess.

RF Overlord
06-18-2004, 02:42 PM
just making a point....assuming there is one in that rambling mess.

Zod:

You made your point very clear, actually...

And you're right on about the demographics, too...I would have thought the new GTO would be aimed squarely at the ricer...OOPS I MEAN sport compact crowd...it certainly looks the part... :shake:

Found in a sig on CVN: "My car was made with TOOLS, not chopsticks"

jgc61sr2002
06-18-2004, 02:43 PM
The link also worked for me. Thanks. I was at a Pontiac dealer the other day they are asking sticker plus $3,000 Fair Market Value. In other words 3K over sticker.

Redster
06-18-2004, 03:29 PM
I always wonder if Pontiac made a 2005 model, an exact replica of a 1966 or 1967 GTO......... how well it would sell. I would stand in line for 3 weeks to order one, and I would be willing to wait 6 months for delivery.

The same is true of all the old cars..... 1969 Charger R/T, 1970 Charger R/T, 1969 Trans Am, 1969 Z-28, the old Hemi Cudas, the Superbird, 1970 Chevelle SS 454, etc.......

I wonder what prevents just one manufacturer from trying something like this and seeing how well sales work out?

Well, Ford made an exact replica of the GT40. Unforunately, 150k is out of my price range (darn!) unless I win the lottery.

ap2003
06-18-2004, 04:10 PM
I went to see one last night... Curiosity got the best of me...

Definitely small (relative to the Marauder)... definititely reminds me of a cavalier

Dealer had a "$4,000" wheel tire package installed to "upgrade" to 18" and chrome...

Probably real fast... but not for some one (like me) with 4 other family members to cart around. (Does anyone else consider a Marauder a family car? :) )

ap

SHERIFF
06-18-2004, 08:13 PM
Well, Ford made an exact replica of the GT40. Unforunately, 150k is out of my price range (darn!) unless I win the lottery.

I was talking to my local FORD dealer owner the other day while they replaced passenger door power window stuff. He's not getting a GT40 now. According to him, FORD did a lottery among dealers to see who would get one and who wouldn't. They don't have enough to go around I guess.

When I speak of Pontiac making an exact duplicate of the 1966 or 1967 GTO I would be willing to pay the inflated equivalent of what they cost back then. But certainly not $150,000, true!

Donny Carlson
06-18-2004, 08:17 PM
[QUOTE=SHERIFF]I was talking to my local FORD dealer owner the other day while they replaced passenger door power window stuff. /QUOTE]

Jeez, what is it with passenger door power window motors? Mine went south and had to be replaced, too.