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darebren
07-28-2004, 08:32 AM
2 members here, myself included have nearly been scammed out of our cars and money. myself included. I was not planning on selling my car, but when I saw some posts about possible sale price in high $20k range, my ears perked up, and figured why not try it myself..so I listed my car on Autotrader.

I got the same responses another member here received, and we started putting it together.

Received 2 emails from differing auto brokers representing non US buyers, both wanted to move quick, and were prepared to send a certified cashiers check drawn on a large US bank to me. The check was for more than the purchase price, and I was supposed to refund the excess to them via Western Union. They would pick my car up after 2 days so I know the check has cleared and I see the money in my account.

The scam is this, your bank will credit you the amount of a certified check within 48 hours... but that does not mean the check has cleared from the issuing bank. It takes up to a week or more for it to clear from the issuing bank, and when it comes back that the certified cashiers check is fake, you are already out of the refund money you sent back to the broker, as well as they already picked up your car. basically, they stole it from you, and you paid them to do it.

Bottom line, if it does not smell right, then it is not right.

i also ran into this website that explains exactly what was happening to me.
http://www.carbuyingtips.com/fraud.htm?x=0tekxgl_eoyyqkz_tt ky3&y=0x40x62x40x64

I told the broker, that I needed 2 weeks before i allowed my car to be picked up or i sent any refund money. he stopped calling me. Look for this if you decide to list your car on the internet or elsewhere.. the scammers also ended all their emails with "God Bless"...which was also pointed out on this internet scam website that says the scammers would do this... man, some of us almost had STUPID written across our foreheads.

i could see this happening to my grandmother, or yours for that matter... what a crappy society some people live in.

duhtroll
07-28-2004, 08:37 AM
For buying and selling EVERYONE should read www.carbuyingtips.com before entering into any transaction.

It helped me immensely in both buying and selling.

-A

FiveO
07-28-2004, 09:09 AM
Unfortunately their are idiots who refuse to actually work for their money.

They may only get say 1 in 20 people to do this...but at several thousand a scam...it pays off.

Rep12
07-28-2004, 09:32 AM
This is part of the Nigerian money scam gang. It's been around for years. Check the internet for details. Drop "Nigerian money scam" into your browser. Go to the FBI website. They have a special task force that specializes on these crooks.

Dave

Ross
07-28-2004, 09:43 AM
I have been involved in several cases where the Nigerians have been in some pretty good scams. Hate to paint any particular people with a broad brush, but it seems that Nigeria is an extremely fertile ground for this sort of thing.

TheDealer
07-28-2004, 10:17 AM
This is a common scam that been going on for a while. I visit classic Mustang sites and you read this all the time. The worst one is that they steal someone elses ad and place an ad on e-bay. You win, send the money and they don't even have a car for sale. They just did a guy from one of the Classic Mustang sites.. His car was on e-bay back in Jan. His car didn't sell. Well a couple of weeks ago there is his car on e-bay with the same ad he ran. All the details were the same. They also steal someone elses rating. You check and they've sold a lot of items with all good feedback. These people need to be stopped and hung out to dry. They usually list a car with a cheap buy it now price. They had a Boss 429 Mustang for 9K. You can't trust anyone.

Dr Caleb
07-28-2004, 10:41 AM
"there's one born every minute. . . " but some people fight back!

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/dumbmrblah/Scamming%20the%20Scammer.htm

The Pppppowerbook one is now famous for scamming an ebay scammer. It's a long read, but brilliant in it's execution!

Nigerian scammers also have their nemesis:

http://www.419eater.com/

MYSTA KANG
07-28-2004, 11:14 AM
Lol The Powernotebook Should Go In The National Get Back At Scammers Hall Of Fame.

Be On The Lookout Every Minute

Ross I Agree We Hate To Put Labels On People But Dang, The Truth Is The Truth.

favjr
12-03-2004, 02:47 PM
I have been involved in several cases where the Nigerians have been in some pretty good scams. Hate to paint any particular people with a broad brush, but it seems that Nigeria is an extremely fertile ground for this sort of thing.
If you want to learn all about this stuff, check out www.quatloos.com (http://www.quatloos.com)

It describes the Nigerian 4-1-9 scam and a host of others. The number of fraudsters out there is staggering.

Frank

MarauderMark
12-03-2004, 03:19 PM
Allmost haapened to a friend of mine with ninja bikes (really sweet lookin bikes) from a guy in greece for the amount of $600.00 Brand new! after asking alot of questions the guy took it off ebay...so just be careful when dealing with strangers..

jgc61sr2002
12-03-2004, 04:34 PM
Always check the sellers feedback. I look at any negatives they receive. If a seller has in the 90 percentile + the buyer who gives - feedback may be wrong.

DEFYANT
12-03-2004, 08:22 PM
As some of you may or may not know, I am selling a mini van and a Cobra. The is a copy of an email in my inbox..... check this out:

Goodday
My Name is Mr wills. I Am very much Interested I Buying your 98 Cobra
Mustang ,I Have been searching for it getting to 3 Weeks Now.Do get back
to me As soon as possible if he still for sale.Mode of payment will be
certified cashier check.Thanks and have a Greatday.I will be Expecting
your Urgent Responds pls/
Regards,

I smelt a rat so here is a copy of my response:

Where are you located?

What is you name, address and phone number?

Thanks,
Charlie

Incase anyone is interested, here is the guys email address: wills@linuxmail.org. I guess it's seller beware now.

MonsterD
12-03-2004, 08:45 PM
If any of you ever sell anything and have some doubt......which you should, you can always contact your bank. That is why you pay them.......they are there to protect you. And if they dont, they are the wrong bank. Come over to US BANK......and then I will be the one protecting you.

My partner and I talked to an older gentleman the otherday. He was certain that he had won the Canadian Lotto, because someone emailed him and told him all he had to do was pay the taxes and it was all his. Sounds goooood.......but when we asked him if he has entered the Canadian Lotto he started to think straight. You have to play to win dont you.

Phishing is an even bigger scam now. Just remember that no financial institution will contact you via email. If your bank wants to talk to you, they will call and send letters telling you to call them back.