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rayjay
08-21-2004, 04:03 AM
I've seen references in various threads that Roush engineered our engine. Did they or didn't they? I'm thinking of a vanity plate that references them, but only will if they actually did.

MI2QWK4U
08-21-2004, 04:35 AM
It's the Ford Mustang Mach 1 motor. Roush had nothing to do with designing it.

sailsmen
08-21-2004, 04:36 AM
Roush developed the cams and intake. The MM engine was developed prior to the Mach I.

SergntMac
08-21-2004, 05:59 AM
Ummm...I never really though of it as spectacular engineering, the 4.6L DOHC has been around for quite a few years in one trim or another. We're just another user in line, along with the Mach 1 and the Aviator.

BlackHole
08-21-2004, 06:12 AM
Roush did do some things with the 4.6 DOHC of the Marauder. But most of it is carry over from the Mark VIII/96 Newer Cobra Mustang except for the Alum. Block which is 99/01 Cobra original. Roush does a lot for the Mustang/CV/F150. What I like is Roush done the Suspension on the 2nd Generation Lightning. Most people don't even know that.

rumble
08-21-2004, 06:27 AM
Roush developed the cams and intake.

Right on! Steve Babcock said that we have (or had at the time anyway) the
"freest flowing intake" in the ford line. It was indeed Roush delveloped.

rayjay
08-21-2004, 08:52 AM
Thanks folks, I guess I'll scrap the ROUSHPWR plate idea. :(

jakdad
08-21-2004, 09:15 AM
What we have is the basic LSC engine which has been put in other vehicles and a great engine at that. When the four valve engines came out in the LSC (Mark VIII), I said "I got to have one of those". Now at long last, I do.


:cool: :cool: :cool:

Paul T. Casey
08-21-2004, 10:57 AM
Ray, instead of ROUSCHPWR, how about TASCAPWR. Tasca Ford was early of in the development of DOHC technology. They ran a funny car Mustang in the late 60's with a 428 DOHC motor. :awe:

Marauder8
08-21-2004, 05:53 PM
Now if you remember 428, you r old, like me......... :confused:

jakdad
08-21-2004, 06:50 PM
Or me, I go back to the Y block and flathead era. When the 352 PI came out, we thought that was the badest thing to come out of dearborn.

:party:

MI2QWK4U
08-21-2004, 09:39 PM
Roush did do some things with the 4.6 DOHC of the Marauder. But most of it is carry over from the Mark VIII/96 Newer Cobra Mustang except for the Alum. Block which is 99/01 Cobra original. Roush does a lot for the Mustang/CV/F150. What I like is Roush done the Suspension on the 2nd Generation Lightning. Most people don't even know that.

Thanks for the info....

BlackHole
08-22-2004, 03:38 AM
Or me, I go back to the Y block and flathead era. When the 352 PI came out, we thought that was the badest thing to come out of dearborn.

:party:


My Dad owned a 58 Ford PI with that Engine with a 406 crank was quick for being around 4500 LBS. :twocents: :twocents:

Then he had another 58 that when you closed the door it locked automaticly.
He more than once locked himself out. But this was before I was born. But when I was younger I seen both rotting in a pasture. :shake: :shake:

jakdad
08-22-2004, 06:55 AM
Yep, In 1958,59 Texas, if you saw one of those white Fords sitting on the side of the road with the front end shaking back and forth, you had better slow down.


:nono: :nono:

the fat bastid
08-22-2004, 08:30 AM
Roush did do some things with the 4.6 DOHC of the Marauder. But most of it is carry over from the Mark VIII/96 Newer Cobra Mustang except for the Alum. Block which is 99/01 Cobra original. Roush does a lot for the Mustang/CV/F150. What I like is Roush done the Suspension on the 2nd Generation Lightning. Most people don't even know that.

they might have done our programming also but i'm not sure.

At mv2 smokie showed steve his dyno tune.
"look what could be done with just a tune" said smokie
steve put on his glasses and exaimed the chart
"hummm...i wonder why roush couldn't do that for us in the first place. send me a copy of this"

fin.

written and directed by the fat bastid
inspired by a true story

Fast4Door
08-22-2004, 08:41 AM
they might have done our programming also but i'm not sure.

Actually, that's almost all they did. They may have been responsible for releasing some unique parts for production, but all the other hardware is Ford.

Roush was responsible for delivering the engine program. The "program" means they did the vehicle calibration, the package specific function prove-out and the package specific durability testing. This was done under contract with Ford (or Mercurury or however that is worked out).

Technically, they would have also been responsible for advertised power testing for the package, but at that particular time, Ford was still stinging from the "Cobra Advertised Power Issue" so that testing was done in house.

Roush didn't do any camshaft development or cylinder head work. This was all done by the Aviator group.

rayjay
08-22-2004, 09:11 AM
There seems to be variety of opinions here. Maybe I should call Roush and ask them for definetive answer.

SergntMac
08-22-2004, 09:20 AM
There seems to be variety of opinions here. Maybe I should call Roush and ask them for definetive answer.
Maybe not just opinions, but a gathering of 411 getting stiched together?

The MM was programmed by Jerry W. (and others) working at Rousch, either as a Rousch employee, or, an engineer on loan from Ford.

Racerx88
08-22-2004, 10:26 AM
While I don't know about the cams, I do know that Roush did develop the intake manifold. I've seen this mentioned in several magazine articles, and I seem to remember Babcock saying something about it a MVI.