Lidio runs his best ever today.

[MI2QWK4U]

Lidio called me today with some good news on his car. Lidio ran his Marauder at Martin, Michigan today, not sure what the event was. I will let him fill in the blanks and tell the tale, but bottom line is he ran a bone jarring 11.47 @ 121 MPH. Suprising numbers taking into consideration it was 85 degrees and high humidity.

[Joe Walsh]

How LOW into the 11's will Lidio go once we get some cool Fall weather!!??

[teamrope]

Good job Lidio! :up: :high5:

It was a pleasure getting to see your tail lights during the test & tune session at Indy in Mrsteamrope's DTR. :bows:

[BillyGman]

that's one fast Marauder. I wonder who will be the first to get into the 10's.....some day it will happen.

[Hack Goby]

I will be looking forward to Ubly in Oct.Coolweather and High Octane(Plus a little NOS) will make for some great times.

[Bradley G]

and we will be watching with baited breath ...Lidio killer times!!
I will be looking forward to Ubly in Oct.Coolweather and High Octane(Plus a little NOS) will make for some great times.

[mpearce]

Unreal!! Good for you Lidio!

-Mat

[CRUZTAKER]

:cool3: :bows: Excellent man!

[FiveO]

Great great time...and trap speed!

Way to go Lidio...!



:up:

[MI2QWK4U]

I will be looking forward to Ubly in Oct.Coolweather and High Octane(Plus a little NOS) will make for some great times.


October 16th I think. If its cool you will see some great numbers from the Trilogy cars. I still havent seen my best time yet after the smaller pully install...make plans to go..its a blast!

[Smokie]

Great time and Congratulations to Lidio !!!!

I wish at Indy some of our cars had run a little better....oh well....maybe next time.

[Joe Walsh]

Lidio will have to update his 'Timeslip' entry.... :cuke: (121 MPH!!!) :banana2:

[jgc61sr2002]

WOW Way yo go Lidio. :2thumbs: Fantastic :woohoo:

[Lidio]

Got back from Martin Michigan’s US-131 drag way this evening and finally made some time to post and reply here.

To say the least my MM ran incredible in the warm weather we had both days this past weekend. It ran 11.47 and 11.48 at 121mph and 119mph. And numerous 11.60’s and 11.50’s. The track prep was awesome and my 60 foots were right on… 1.67 to 1.70’s... still not equal to my best 60ft of 1.65.
The tune was the same that I took with me to Indy other then adding one more degree of timing at WOT over all. With all due respect this proves to me that the Indy track just wasn’t working in terms of traction. This is why most of us that went to Indy were 2 - 4 tenths off in the ¼ mile ET’s.

I really don’t see my MM going into the 10’s in the ¼ mile any time soon. It would require probably about another 100 – 150 horsepower or some serious weight loss to do it. 4400 pounds isn’t as easy to move as some of the 3400lbs Mustangs I’m used to. I don’t intend to do long tubes on my MM any time soon even though I know that they’ll be worth about 50hp on my current set up. I have 4.10’s right now… 4.56’s would be worth some thing I’m sure but still not going to those either. A loser converter is not going to do much at the level of low end torque I’m now pushing now. Plus loose torque converters aren’t all that great in heavy cars/trucks for over all drivability.

My car has now had the Trilogy blower on it for over roughly 18,000 miles. It makes about 14psi of boost on 93 octane and it’s driven and beaten like this every day when I drive it. When I go to the track with it, I pump in 100 unleaded. This is the only way I will use the Nitrous on top of the boost and is what allows such a huge amount of power to be added to a totally stock MM engine. The 100 octane is needed to keep detonation under control on this motor because of its 10:1 compression, 13.8psi of boost and about a 75 shot of Nitrous. My MM and the Trilogy number 1 and several other MM’s with Trilogys are starting to prove what I’ve said for years… the stock, cast 4.6L pistons, block and crank can handle a substantial amount of boost with a proper tune and octane. If my MM can take what I’ve been doing for the last 18K miles, imagine how safe only 9psi should be with a proper tune!!

We’ll see what happens this fall with some 50 degree weather…


Thanks

[FiveO]

Awesome Lidio....just awesome.


Congrats....keep the numbers coming!

[jobrien8]

Terrific time Lidio!

[BillyGman]

Hey Lidio, I can't believe I'm right there w/you in the 60' catagory!! I ran a 1.663, and a 1.682 back in June on 93 octane gas. Unfortunately my trap speeds are no where's near yours my friend. Bravo!!! I wish you would post some of your timeslips, because I'm curious if my 330' times compare to yours too. I see that you have me beaten already by the 1/8th mile mark too both in MPH and time. I'm also wondering if they're kicking you off the track once you run two ET's under 11.5 since you don't have a roll cage. If Lidio doesn't get back here shortly, and someone else knows the answer to that question, then please feel free to share.

[MARAUDER S/C #5]

Nice work Lidio !!!!!!! :drive: :up:

[Bradley G]

If Lidio ran his best so far in 85 degree weather,not @ his best 60' time.any speculators when the weather gets cool+ an awsome 60'=11.2's???:D I for one would love :nerd: to see that!!

[Lidio]

Rushing off to work this morning... I will scan and post the time slip tonight.

1/4 mile 330 was 4.77 on the 11.47 run though.



Later

[BillyGman]

Rushing off to work this morning... I will scan and post the time slip tonight.

1/4 mile 330 was 4.77 on the 11.47 run though.



LaterOkay, thanks Lidio. my 330' was 4.97 seconds, so already your car begins to pull ahead at the 330' mark. BTW, Brad, Lidio's best 60' times were about the same as mine simply because I have the 4.56 gears, and the 3,000 RPM stall speed, whereas he has the 4.10's and a slower stall speed. So that's the only reason that my car might keep up w/his for the first 60 feet. But after that the extra power his engine has just propells his car ahead of mine for the entire remainder of the 1/4 mile. His ET's might be better in the cold temperatures, but I'm not so sure that his 60' times will neccessarily change. Either way though, a 1.6 second 60' time is really doing something in a 4200 lb car. I also remember Lidio writing in one of his posts about the warmer track temperatures being beneficial to a Nitrous engine since it increases the pressure in the bottle. However, maybe Lidio will be back to confirm that, or correct me.

[Bradley G]

That makes sense,about not getting substantial gain in cool weater using NOS.

[Bigdogjim]

Congrats!

Nice to see your hard work pay off:up:

[Lidio]

At this time no track has kicked me out since the car has been well into the 11’s.
If it’s a NHRA track it requires a role bar at 11.99 or better and if it’s a IHRA track it requires a role bar at 11.49 or better. Typically most track aren’t to nuts about the rules when your just at the edge of the rules. Most of the tracks I go to are IHRA luckily. Although no role bar for my daily driven MM.

As far as running better in the cold we’ll see. It should go around 11.83 when the weather gets into the 55 degrees temps or lower with out the Nitrous hit. Although the Nitrous isn’t as evective when the bottle gets colder and the bottle pressure drops below 900. I’ve added a bottle heater and blanket in the last couple of weeks which tries to keep the bottle at about 80 degrees and 900psi. Although with the temps we’ve had lately and a black car, my bottle has been hovering around 1100-1200psi and is for sure adding about 80-90HP not 60-75 like I would normally think when the bottle is at about 900 psi or slightly lower.

I think in the cold this fall if I tweak a little harder and the cold tracks let me achieve my 1.6ish 60ft’s…. I could probably squeak a 11.3something out of it, and that’s it I think :D

I’m not really interested in adding any more boost because the 13.8psi I’m at now is no problem with the right tune on 93 octane for every day driving and abuse. And the Roots/Eaton blowers fall off sooner and become inefficient when you really start to over spin them. I think I found a sweet spot at just under 14psi with the blower and every day use. This is why I new early on I would be spraying it to go even faster.

My MM is the first serious effort I’ve ever made of throwing a shot of NOS on top of some boost, and so far I consider it no problem at all. The only thing I’m staring to see this past weekend is that my trans is not hitting 2nd gear hard enough any more at WOT. Its becoming more of a “Slide-Bump” instead of a crisp shift. I’m hoping to have a rebuilt/beefed 4R70W in it with in the next couple of weeks. Until now the stock trans is still in it with only a shift-kit. It’s done very well and would have lived longer if I could have made the 1-2 shift even harder right from the beginning. But that’s hard to do once you’ve installed a shift kit. It requires better 2nd gear clutches and more internal work.



Thanks for all the support guys. You should see the look on every ones faces when my car comes back down the return roads at the tracks after a mid 11 second run :awe:
It’s a mix of head shaking and high fives. At one time I left the car running in the pits to let it cool down and run the fan for a few minutes, People walked past it and would do a double take and say…. “hey, that car is actually still running”??? “ You cant even hear it running”!!! Man do I get a kick out of that. This car is really teaching me that a race car doesn’t have to be a undrivable, loud, trailer queen. The Nittos on the widened rims really do the trick at the track and are no problem in the rain so long as the tread isn’t gone, but that’s true for and street tire any way when its raining.





Thanks

[JET]

Way to go Lidio

[BillyGman]

Thanks for the details Lidio. And I absolutely agree w/you about the Nitto P305 drag radials providing excellent traction (especially at the track) as well as being just fine in the rain. Once in awhile I hear some people mention something about Nitto drag radials being terrible in the rain, but they must have been using them in the rain when there wasn't any tread left at all on them. I now have over 5,000 miles on my Nitto Drag radials, and they still are actually just as good in the rain as the factory stock tires were. I've never hydroplaned while going around turns, accelerating moderately, nor going through small puddles or during braking while it was raining. And at the track, I can hammer the gas pedal down to the floor all at once while coming off the line, and they grab completely as long as I've taken the pressure down to 22 PSI. And with 4.56 gears, and the 3,000 RPM stall speed that I have, as well as having a roots type S/Cer, if these tires grip off the line at the dragstrip for me, then I don't see why anyone would have a problem using them on a Marauder unless perhaps they had a 10 second Marauder.

[merc]

Lidio, I wish I was at the track to record the faces and sounds from the attendees. As a Marauder owner I smile when you lay down numbers like that. I think you will have to install one of those stupidchargers for me one day soon. :drive:

[MERCMAN]

Lidio, thanks for all your great work. When people query me about what a fast marauder can do, I hope you don't mind me using your car as an example of what the marauder is truly capable of. :up:

[MI2QWK4U]

Where others fear to tread.....
Where Lidio goes, I must follow...
Lid, you still have that NOS setup sitting on the shelf at the shop for me?

[TripleTransAm]

I think in the cold this fall if I tweak a little harder and the cold tracks let me achieve my 1.6ish 60ft’s…. I could probably squeak a 11.3something out of it, and that’s it I think :D


Hah! I've heard that before...

Didn't you post something along the lines of not wanting to go any further (at the point you hit the low 12s, if I remember correctly)? You are so full of s***.... ;)

Congrats, way to keep raising the bar. Your results are the references I keep bragging about when telling folks of the Marauder's potential.

[Lidio]

Triple


Your right I did say that once I tapped into the 11’s a little that, “That’s all it had in it”.

That doesn’t mean that it didn’t have any left it in still. And of course like any drag racer who’s quest for speed and power never end…. Who am I trying to kid.

Really though, that 11.40’s came with really only minor tweaks, traction etc. I haven’t made a part change or upgrade in a while with the car in any way. It’s the same set up that went 11.57 at FFW at Norwalk and 11.60’s & 70’s locally here at Milan. Just some tiny tuning and driving refinements plus different track locations and track conditions.

Thanks

[MikesMerc]

Just back from vacation and saw this thread! Great Job Lidio!

Low 11s with the stock exhaust and suspension, and completely ungutted....that's simply amazing!

[Bowtie]

Not a regular here, and jumping in a bit late, but.............
Congratulations on your new best, Lidio ! :2thumbs:

Funny, the comment about traction at Indy. I thought it was fantastic. On a completely toasted stock Auburn posi (did you notice the one-wheel burnouts I was doing there? :depress: ), I ran my best 60' to date: 1.630.

Lidio, I think you're experiencing the frustration I had with drag radials that caused me to give up on them and just change tires at the track. The little 8.5 x 26 ET Drags never dissappoint me ;) . DR's are probably great for the majority of the Marauder gang, but you're putting down some torque that most just haven't experienced.

Way to go! I sure hope you come down to Atlanta Nov. 6. I can guarantee you will impress with that car.

[BillyGman]

I thought I had read on the Impala SS board a post from someone who was at Indy claiming that they noticed that the track looked like it was prepared for cars w/shorter wheel bases since the traction compound was NOT applied too well far enough back behind the starting line for a Marauder or an Impala's rear wheels to be on the sticky stuff. If that's true, then that in itself could've been the reason for the poor traction. I have the Nitto drag radials on my Marauder, and have also accomplished 60' times of 1.6 seconds on both of my last two runs back in June in Atco, NJ. And the tires hooked up perfectly with 22 PSI in them.