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jefferson-mo
11-16-2004, 02:55 PM
I heard a rumor of a car for sale locally and at first the guy sez '427 4speed' 68 Galaxie and then later sez............'no it's a 428'
My question is was there a 427 option for 68 or was it only a 428?
At first I saw dollar signs but then with a 428 it just doesn't seem so exciting
thanks for any help..........................
merc406
11-16-2004, 03:10 PM
I heard a rumor of a car for sale locally and at first the guy sez '427 4speed' 68 Galaxie and then later sez............'no it's a 428'
My question is was there a 427 option for 68 or was it only a 428?
At first I saw dollar signs but then with a 428 it just doesn't seem so exciting
thanks for any help..........................
Had to get the book out on this and from what it has a hyd. 427 was avail. for 68. The 428 is no slouch either and was one bad assed motor. :burnout:
stevengerard
11-16-2004, 03:15 PM
Had to get the book out on this and from what it has a hyd. 427 was avail. for 68. The 428 is no slouch either and was one bad assed motor. :burnout:
I remember reading an article where Carrol Shelby stated he always laughs at folks paying extra for the 427 over the 428 (or is it the otherway around) in the Shelby GT 500s because he always felt they were equal
Joe Walsh
11-16-2004, 05:28 PM
I remember reading an article where Carrol Shelby stated he always laughs at folks paying extra for the 427 over the 428 (or is it the otherway around) in the Shelby GT 500s because he always felt they were equal
True, LOTS of '427' Cobras actually had 428 Engines in them....The 427 cost Shelby a bunch more $$$$ than the 428. Still, If you are going to really wind 'er up; I'll take cross-bolted mains (427) over two-bolt mains (428) any day
I don't think you could actually get a 427 in a Galaxie in 1968 though. I believe all of the 427s were going into Cougars and smaller cars.
The difference between a 428 and a 427 depends greatly on which 427 you are talking about. There are at least ten variations of the 427 from 1963 to 1968, ranging from the hydrolic 1968 4V engine to the over the counter SOHC.
stormtroopin'
11-16-2004, 08:21 PM
Same what Kirk said. Most '68 427 with hydralic lifters ended up in the Cougar GT-E's and "detuned"...and being in single four barrel form. BTW, a 428 is no slouch either. You never know what you might find.:nerd: Keep your eyes open.
jefferson-mo
11-17-2004, 02:27 PM
I remember reading an article where Carrol Shelby stated he always laughs at folks paying extra for the 427 over the 428 (or is it the otherway around) in the Shelby GT 500s because he always felt they were equal
Yeah but just something about saying '427' that gives me goose bumps...
especially in a big car with a manual trans
Thanks for all y'alls help.................I still love it here:cool:
David Morton
11-17-2004, 05:07 PM
The 428 had a nodular cast iron crankshaft that was lighter than the forged steel crankshafts that were in some of the 427's. This nodular iron is the same stuff they used to make the venerable 9" rear end with and is very tough stuff! I had a buddy back in high school that had a Fairlane GTA, with a Fred Jones rebuilt 428 SCJ; 650 CFM double pumper Holley on an Edelbrock dual plane high riser manifold, medium riser heads and Hooker headers into custom 2.5" dual exhaust w/crossover and no mufflers! I sat in the passenger seat many times and watched him wind it up to 8,000 rpms expecting it to blow up like a grenade. It never did.
The 428 was also a longer stroke than the 427, as I recall it was 3.98" and the 427 was 3.75. More stroke=more torque! He had a 3.25 axle ratio and a 4-speed, close ratio toploader manual transmission (another nodular piece) and the thing would boil the tires from a dead start in first or second gear!
I'm with Carrol Shelby on this subject and a big fan of the 428 too! It's also what was in the Hurst/Shelby GT500KR Mustang and also I believe the engine that was in Bullits' Mustang.
Joe Walsh
11-17-2004, 05:18 PM
I believe that the 'BULIITT' Mustangs (supposedly there were 2 for the filming) were "Built" 390 FEs...
Mike Poore
11-21-2004, 04:24 AM
I've been told that many folks who thought it was a 428 actually got a 429. Especially in the Shelbys.:dunno:
Marauderjack
11-21-2004, 04:32 AM
In 1966 Shelby only built 33 "427" Cobras....3 were race cars and 30 were sold to the public.....most were wrecked pushing the price of those remaining to around $750,000!! :rolleyes:
After that the "427" Cobras actually had 428's in them due to cost. :confused:
Marauderjack....aka: "Cobrajack" :bandit:
jakdad
11-29-2004, 07:37 AM
I heard a rumor of a car for sale locally and at first the guy sez '427 4speed' 68 Galaxie and then later sez............'no it's a 428'
My question is was there a 427 option for 68 or was it only a 428?
At first I saw dollar signs but then with a 428 it just doesn't seem so exciting
thanks for any help..........................
1968 the 427 was available in full size Fords (390HP), the 428 was also offered (345HP). The same 427 was available in mid sized Fords (special order). The T-Birds got the 390 in 1968 (315HP) but in 1969 the birds had the 429 available.
I drove all of them and would still opt for the 427 @ 390 HP over the 428. The juice lifter 427 opened a lot of performance doors. The shorter stroke with the large bore (4.23 X 3.78) made for a high winding big block. Don't let the 428 option scare you awayfrom that Galaxie. If the price is right and it's a nice car, go for it.The big block galaxies are fewer and fewer, even the 390's.
Good luck
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