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Bradley G
01-19-2005, 08:03 AM
Hey Gang! My first Post of this type!
Got me to think?
Bradley G

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: HISTORY TEST



Subject: HISTORY TEST

Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice
test. The events are actual cuts from past history. They actually happened!!!

Do you remember?

-1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
a. Superman
b. Jay Lenno
c. Harry Potter
d. Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3.During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old
American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6.In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to
rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7.In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9.In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill' s women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10.On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take
out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US
Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers.Thousands
of people were killed by:

a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11.In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

Nope, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?

So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent
on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile
certain people.
They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little
kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members
of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips,
and Medal of Honor winning and former Governor Joe Foss,
but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone because of
profiling.

Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and
other dunder-headed attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart
common sense, feel doubly ashamed of themselves - if they have any such
sense.

As the writer of the award winning story "Forrest Gump" so aptly put it,
"Stupid is as stupid does."

Bradley G








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prchrman
01-19-2005, 08:23 AM
Serial killers-male, white, loners, losers
Enviro terrorists-male, white, stink, educated, goofy
-female, white, stink, hairy armpits and legs, birkenstocks
Profiling has been going on for years. Just because you have long hair, tatoos, nose, ear, belly button, lip and tongue rings, drive a pimped out 62 country sedan wagon, etc. does not mean you have to smoke dope, you might though. It is a fact though, you will get a different look from LEOs than a little old lady driving a maverick...in a past life (before 20) I was profiled...they told me so...willie

Haggis
01-19-2005, 08:27 AM
I agree Brad and I would like to thank Mr. & Mrs. Liberal American for making this a reality.

God Bless America, we're going to need it.

duhtroll
01-19-2005, 08:39 AM
Yep. It's all them damn liberals' fault. :rolleyes:

-A

P.S. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Haggis
01-19-2005, 08:42 AM
Yep. It's all them damn liberals' fault. :rolleyes:

-A

P.S. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

AMEN, Andrew. :D

duhtroll
01-19-2005, 09:17 AM
Let me add I am not pointing the finger at the other "extreme." It's just that sweeping generalities about folks are irritating, for they are the height of ignorance.

I do agree with the point that was originally made in this thread, and I see nothing wrong with profiling to a degree. If you get bit by several dogs and almost all of them are pit bulls, it makes sense that you would be more wary of pit bulls. That is logic.

Or maybe you should stop kicking the dogs. Whatever.

No, I am not calling anyone dogs.

-A

Patrick
01-19-2005, 09:34 AM
Let me add I am not pointing the finger at the other "extreme." It's just that sweeping generalities about folks are irritating, for they are the height of ignorance.

I do agree with the point that was originally made in this thread, and I see nothing wrong with profiling to a degree. If you get bit by several dogs and almost all of them are pit bulls, it makes sense that you would be more wary of pit bulls. That is logic.

Or maybe you should stop kicking the dogs. Whatever.

No, I am not calling anyone dogs.

-A

Very good point. This is just commen sense and Human nature.

Haggis
01-19-2005, 09:45 AM
Let me add I am not pointing the finger at the other "extreme." It's just that sweeping generalities about folks are irritating, for they are the height of ignorance.

I do agree with the point that was originally made in this thread, and I see nothing wrong with profiling to a degree. If you get bit by several dogs and almost all of them are pit bulls, it makes sense that you would be more wary of pit bulls. That is logic.

Or maybe you should stop kicking the dogs. Whatever.

No, I am not calling anyone dogs.

-A
;)
Hey what's wrong with Pit Bulls??? I have one and yes he is a PITA at times, but still a sweet and loveable dog. Oh yea did I forget to mention that he is also part Mississippi Leg Hound. :lol:

Paul T. Casey
01-19-2005, 10:17 AM
The big problem with "profiling" in this sense is the average American equates Arab ethnicity (sic) with Muslim extremist. Don't forget that the Muslim religon extents to include many people from the Phillipenes (sic), Indonesia, Africa, and yes even Central and Western Europe. This is not to say that Muslims are bad in general, or Christians are always good. Just a reminder that it's often hard to judge on appearences alone. I do agree, not too many 70+ year old ladies are out to meet Allah, but that man next to you on a plane who looks normal and respectable just may be.

BillyGman
01-19-2005, 12:15 PM
Great post Brad!!!! The thing about Muslims is that the ones who are fundamentalists (those who take their book, the Koran literally) seem to be the extremists, and are very violent natured, militant, and are very intolerant of other peoples, and religious groups. Whereas most other fundamentalists from other religions such as Christianity (the ones that take their book literally) tend to be much more peaceful, and tolerant of others.


That isn't to say that you don't find wacko people from all religious backrounds, because the fact is that there are definately flakes from all religions sects (Christianity included). But my reference points to the book that the fundamentalists from each group follow, or strives to follow. Christ was quoted in the bible instructing people to "Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, and do good to those who wrongfully use you, and pray for those who despise you". However, the Koran speaks of a "death to the infidel" mentality. In other words the slaughter of those who are NOT Muslim.

And there lies the MAJOR difference. The Muslim movement is a powerful one, and has a militant mentality in much of it. Look at what happens in Mecca every year. People of the Muslim faith gather there atleast once in their lifetime during one certain time of year, and they all throw stones at a statue in an effort to defeat sin. And that's not an extremist fringe I'm speaking of, that's main stream Muslims. Now while there's no harm to anyone by throwing stones at some statue, it's simply an indication of the Muslim mentality. That you can defeat bad behavior, or sin, by throwing stones at a statue. The Muslim movement worldwide is a very dangerous and violent one, and Muhammad himself was a militant. So do I think profiling is wrong? Absolutely not. profiling happens every day on a personal and one-on-one basis. if you don't think that's true, then grow a full beard like I have, and see of after a year's time if you don't get treated a bit differently than others do in certain circles (including in the job market). but sometimes Law Enforcement for instance needs to profile in order to be more efficient at doing their job.
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Bigdogjim
01-19-2005, 01:27 PM
Or maybe you should stop kicking the dogs. Whatever.

No, I am not calling anyone dogs.-A

Hey not good to mess with dogs :P

Big Dog is watching :P

OK back to the topic :rolleyes:

Patrick
01-19-2005, 01:41 PM
Hey not good to mess with dogs :P

Big Dog is watching :P

OK back to the topic :rolleyes:

Its just like the Bunny jokes!!
:lol:

Rob1559
01-19-2005, 04:56 PM
I have discriminating tastes. Does that make me a bad person?
There does seem to be a trend of terrorists being middle eastern males 17-40. Profiling is good. Don't deny that when you get on an airplane you don't "profile" the other passsengers looking for suspicious persons.

Bradley G
01-19-2005, 05:26 PM
If I got on a plane with passengers of this profile I would be lying if I said it never crossed my mind.Pants on fire! He He

Bradley G

Krytin
01-19-2005, 06:09 PM
The big problem with "profiling" in this sense is the average American equates Arab ethnicity (sic) with Muslim extremist. Don't forget that the Muslim religon extents to include many people from the Phillipenes (sic), Indonesia, Africa, and yes even Central and Western Europe. This is not to say that Muslims are bad in general, or Christians are always good. Just a reminder that it's often hard to judge on appearences alone. I do agree, not too many 70+ year old ladies are out to meet Allah, but that man next to you on a plane who looks normal and respectable just may be.
Amen Brother!

PJR
01-19-2005, 07:59 PM
How do you profile without profiling? The constant battle for Law Enforcement. I for one, would rather get stopped & checked as opposed to allowing my family or neighbors get hurt by someone with bad intentions. We have had the same discussions about DWI checkpoints. I had an Officer who refused to participate citing his personal beliefs. When asked if he would rather have a drunk driver hurt his family, or have the drunk get caught by an Officer working a checkpoint, guess what his answer was? Too much hypocrisy!!

:flag:

King Fubar
01-19-2005, 08:04 PM
The only reason some people don't agree with "profiling" is because it works.

hdwrench
01-19-2005, 08:11 PM
for some reason i'm ALWAYS "randomly selected" for more screening... im sure it has nothing to do with appearance. :bs:

Paul T. Casey
01-20-2005, 09:05 AM
Just so you don't fall in love with profiling (which I DO agree with) the 4 people that the authorities are looking for in regard to the threat in Boston are not (a) middle eastern, or (b) all males. Especially now, keep your guard up.

Dr Caleb
01-20-2005, 09:07 AM
The only reason some people don't agree with "profiling" is because it works.


Not always. A Canadian was detained at JFK airport by US security, and deported to Syria where he was tortured for a year and returned to Canada. There's a big inquiry now, because he wasn't the only one.

It's the thin edge of the wedge. If you're looking for a middle eastern male, 19 - 40, then profiling works. But the first ever airplane hijacking was by a Croation Separatist in the 1970's. One of the the largest terrorist attacks outside North America was done by Japanese radicals in Tokyo.

If you're looking for drunk drivers, you pull over people in cars after the bars close, not pedestrians. If you're looking for 'terrorists', middle eastern men 19-40 doesn't always cover them all.

If I hear galloping hoofbeats, I don't expect to see Zebras. ;)

GodOSpeed
01-20-2005, 10:13 AM
Great points Billy.

prchrman
01-20-2005, 11:33 AM
I feel somewhat sorry for people that determine their life's course by hate...it must take all kind of energy and concentration to stay mad all the time...profiling has it's down sides...and we should not deal with people in an undignified manner...God loves everybody...Jesus left us with 2 commandments: Love God with all your heart with all your soul and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself...regardless of who you are, what your belief if we could all do this it would be a better world...I want everyone to do good in this world and have a joyfull, healthy and prosperous life...but...I do not think we can be naive and not protect our family, nation and way of life...a man who is a man will protect those things he loves and cherishes...willie

Patrick
01-20-2005, 11:52 AM
I feel somewhat sorry for people that determine their life's course by hate...it must take all kind of energy and concentration to stay mad all the time...profiling has it's down sides...and we should not deal with people in an undignified manner...God loves everybody...Jesus left us with 2 commandments: Love God with all your heart with all your soul and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself...regardless of who you are, what your belief if we could all do this it would be a better world...I want everyone to do good in this world and have a joyfull, healthy and prosperous life...but...I do not think we can be naive and not protect our family, nation and way of life...a man who is a man will protect those things he loves and cherishes...willie

Thanks Willie.
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BillyGman
01-20-2005, 11:53 AM
I agree Willie. I believe that our goal should be to be at peace with all people. If you're outspoken Like I am, sometimes it makes it more difficult to be at peace with people due to the fact that some people will jump to conclusions, and misunderstand your words. But I for one DO have a preference to be at peace with everyone, however, I've also learned that we have to have a balance, because having a balance is realistic. We cannot be at one extreme by always being quick to fly off the handle and think the worst of people, but at the same time, it would be unrealistic for us to think that everyone is our friend, or that everyone means us well, and has our interests in mind on a personal level, or on a national one since that is far from the truth.


So extremes are unrealistic, and we have to be "wise as serpents, and harmless as doves" as the scripture teaches. I wish that nobody ever had to use profiling, but unfortunately in the sick world and society that we live in, atleast some profiling is neccessary. And for anyone to think that it isn't, is simply unrealistic, and is an off-balance, and extreme viewpoint.

Dr Caleb
01-20-2005, 12:23 PM
I feel somewhat sorry for people that determine their life's course by hate...it must take all kind of energy and concentration to stay mad all the time...

:up: :up:

As always Willie, you rock!