Hey any gun people can help me out???

[Dark_Knight7096]

Quick question. I'm just watching Bad Boys II and i just wanted to ask something, before i forget. The dual-tone guns that will smith and martin lawrence use throught the entire movie, to me, look like glocks. I've rewound the part and watched it a few times and paused it and i'm saying glock. I've talked to my father, who is a LEO, and he has echoed the same thing to him, glock all the way. The only thing is neither me or him know of glock making a dual-tone handgun. Does anybody know if glock actually makes a dual-tone handgun, or was it just fabricated for this movie? If glock actually made this gun what model(s) did they make the dual-tone in? Because if glock actually makes this dual-tone gun then I might opt to get that instead of the dual-tone H&K USP i've had my eye on for a while.

[shakes_26]

not sure if they are glocks, but you can get your glock slide nickel/satin finished, this would give a two tone appearance.

[greggash]

I agree with shakes,
they usually just send out the slide to be chromed

[khc3]

I've seen PD trade-in guns with nickel-plated slides, I imagine if you order enough guns Glock will finish them any way you want. also Caspian Arms makes or used to make stainless slides for most Glock models.

[merc]

It was a H&K USP Custom

http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct.asp?subcatid=119

[jjaguda]

It was a H&K USP Custom

http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct.asp?subcatid=119I' ve had two USPs - blue and stainless. I believe they are Glocks (the movie, that is).

[merc]

I've had two USPs - blue and stainless. I believe they are Glocks (the movie, that is).

I have another angle.

After closer review the barrel profile does look closer to a Glock then H&K.

[Dark_Knight7096]

I have another angle.

After closer review the barrel profile does look closer to a Glock then H&K.
That is what i thought too. I have been looking into buying a H&K USP dual-tone .40SW for quite some time now and even the slide itself has a shorter profile than on the H&K, from sheer glance i'm guessing they are Glock model 17s but i'm not a huge gun guy so i'm not 100% on that, i asked my father about the chroming of the standard slide but his response to that was, Glock is made of a composite material and he isn't too sure about how plating would work on that, he said he didn't think it would turn out too well, but if a company makes a nickel plated slide to fit a glock i would definatly prefer that over the USP, i have a major woodie for the H&K USP but the 800 dollar price tag on it isn't too great right now a 500 glock with 100 dollar slide is far more practical for me right now, and then in the future when i, myself, become a LEO i can always afford the better USP, or i could just get it now, i don't know. we'll see. Now i just gotta work on looking more like will smith hmm.....

[merc]

It took me a while to find it , but here it is.


http://www.csnation.net/skins/view_skin.php?id=6046

[Dark_Knight7096]

Thanks a lot merc!! I really appreciate that, I just hope that it's an actual gun, not something someone made up for that videogame. Well i'm off on the hunt!

EDIT:
Found the Glock 18 and we have a small problem, it is a fully automatic handgun. Ok that makes sense now because martin lawrence used the same gun in National Security just with an extended clip, problem being i'm not 100% sure of the legalities of a civilian purchasing a fully automatic handgun, I don't think it can be done. Oh well looks like i'll have to find someone who sells the silver slide for the 17 afterall.

[jjaguda]

That is what i thought too. I have been looking into buying a H&K USP dual-tone .40SW for quite some time now and even the slide itself has a shorter profile than on the H&K, from sheer glance i'm guessing they are Glock model 17s but i'm not a huge gun guy so i'm not 100% on that, i asked my father about the chroming of the standard slide but his response to that was, Glock is made of a composite material and he isn't too sure about how plating would work on that, he said he didn't think it would turn out too well, but if a company makes a nickel plated slide to fit a glock i would definatly prefer that over the USP, i have a major woodie for the H&K USP but the 800 dollar price tag on it isn't too great right now a 500 glock with 100 dollar slide is far more practical for me right now, and then in the future when i, myself, become a LEO i can always afford the better USP, or i could just get it now, i don't know. we'll see. Now i just gotta work on looking more like will smith hmm.....Dark_Knight
The Glock slide is steel. The frame is composite. Go with a USP. I've had Glocks, H&K, Smiths, Colts, Springfields, etc, in 9mm, 10mm, .40, .45, as well as several revolvers. The USPs, out of the box have been the most accurate pistols I've fired. The USP .45 SOCOM is issued to the SEAL teams. While the Glock is a very good pistol, the USP was paterned - grip to slide angle - like the 1911 which has remained one of the top competition pistols because of its natural "point and shoot" grip to slide angle. Still, my old 10mm Glock 20 was a bad a$$ gun. I sold it because I was uncomfortable with the extreemly high chamber pressure. You cal probably pick up a used USP for about 500.

[FiveO]

The Glock 18 is a fully semi automatic pistol.

You can buy Glock's with the custom slide chromed.

Just takes some searching.

I have a video of the G18 in action....just don't have a hosting site. I have it somewhere... :)

[Dark_Knight7096]

Dark_Knight
The Glock slide is steel. The frame is composite. Go with a USP. I've had Glocks, H&K, Smiths, Colts, Springfields, etc, in 9mm, 10mm, .40, .45, as well as several revolvers. The USPs, out of the box have been the most accurate pistols I've fired. The USP .45 SOCOM is issued to the SEAL teams. While the Glock is a very good pistol, the USP was paterned - grip to slide angle - like the 1911 which has remained one of the top competition pistols because of its natural "point and shoot" grip to slide angle. Still, my old 10mm Glock 20 was a bad a$$ gun. I sold it because I was uncomfortable with the extreemly high chamber pressure. You cal probably pick up a used USP for about 500.
Sounds good. Looks like my first choice will be my actual choice. It will be a little difficult to find one used in dual-tone because the stores around here have the HE finish and none are used, i'll probly just be picking it up new. I'm probly gonna go with the .40 version, any input on this? Thanks to everyone for your help, i really appreciate it!!

[FiveO]

http://www.glock.com/g18.htm

http://www.glock.com/g18c31s_small2.jpg

[jjaguda]

Sounds good. Looks like my first choice will be my actual choice. It will be a little difficult to find one used in dual-tone because the stores around here have the HE finish and none are used, i'll probly just be picking it up new. I'm probly gonna go with the .40 version, any input on this? Thanks to everyone for your help, i really appreciate it!!
Personally, I like the .45. When the .40S&W first came out, the running joke was that the "S&W" stood for "Short and Weak." Its still a good round depending on what ammo you choose. I've seen a LFO hit in the shoulder - inand out - discharged from the hospital the same night. Most hard core target shooters choose use .45, . 38 super, or .22 depending on class. .45 shooters generally stick with the 1911 whether its Kimber, Wilson, Springfield, or even Colt. Kimbers are extreemly tight. Colts tend to be more mil spec.

Good luck on your decision.
BTW USP comes in either the "hostile environment" (black/blue - similar but not as durable as the Glock's finish) or SS. The SS is VERY nicely finished.
http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/index.jsp?loc=101&SITEID=A&PartNumber=704501

[Dark_Knight7096]

Good luck on your decision.
BTW USP comes in either the "hostile environment" (black/blue - similar but not as durable as the Glock's finish) or SS. The SS is VERY nicely finished.
http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/index.jsp?loc=101&SITEID=A&PartNumber=704501
I like the SS version better than the HE version. Typically i'm a black on black type of guy but every once and a while something shiny catches my eye:D , the only reason i was thinking of a .40 was because it would offer more stopping power than a 9mm but less recoil and a higher capacity than a .45 and if i intend to use the USP as my duty weapon when i do become a LEO then those are some qualities that would be desireable. Plus i know upon entering the acadamy, FBI trainees are issued a Smith & Wesson .40 (not sure on model though, i used to, i could look it up but i'm tired now so i don't feel like it), so i figure that caliber must be selected for something. Thanks for all the help everyone!! Now I just have to wait until i can get that 760 dollars. I HAVE A GREAT IDEA!! Raffle everybody, one dollar per ticket 762 tickets will be sold, $1 a ticket the winner recieves $2 lol, i'm a silly silly man.

[Sactown]

Sounds good. Looks like my first choice will be my actual choice. It will be a little difficult to find one used in dual-tone because the stores around here have the HE finish and none are used, i'll probly just be picking it up new. I'm probly gonna go with the .40 version, any input on this? Thanks to everyone for your help, i really appreciate it!!

I've shot a glock in .45, it was nice, but I still favor my Kimber. Their "custom shop" pistols are a dream to shoot.

http://www.kimberamerica.com/customshop.php

[WantOneSoBad]

Well during basic we fired M9's as qualifying weapons for the pistol but our DS's used to always joke that if it came down to using that as a last resort we might as well have a good K-Bar on hand and use that first. Anyways, to get to the point, on my first tour in Iraq I had to use my M9, the guy was approaching a wounded soldier with a large machete and wasn't listening to noone (we only warn once) so I shot 4 times center mass and this guy was still able to walk/stumble forward about 3 or 4 meters before he fell to his knees and then the ground. About 5 months later right before I was to get back I was at a checkpoint, and a large fellow that we were fixing to detain went ape***** and knocked one of the soldiers down, took his sidearm and before I could I could take my next breath I heard 1 shot ring out from another soldiers weapon....and well I don't want to say the guy flew back, but he did more than just fall back from 1 shot out of Glock .45 that another soldier chose to carry around instead of his issued M9.

Basically what I'm trying to get at is that people in our position where our lives could be on the line at any moment, you should definetly go for the higher caliber and more stopping power whether or not your sacrificing a couple extra rounds. I have no respect for the M9 and any other 9mm after seeing what a .45 does and a 9mm doesn't. You can easily carry an extra mag or 2 on duty man, but I'd beg you to go for the higher caliber man. I can promise you that you won't ever regret when it comes time for that firearm to do its job. If I had a choice I'd carry around a Desert Eagle if I could, when you see a guy basically walk through 4 9mm rounds and then see another go st8 back from 1 .45. It tells you alot. Sorry, this is drawn out but sometimes you see something where you just have to let your mind speak and this was one of them.

[Petrograde]

Found the Glock 18 and we have a small problem, it is a fully automatic handgun. Ok that makes sense now because martin lawrence used the same gun in National Security just with an extended clip

you mean like this?

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=56 54&stc=1

you will need a Class 3 Weapons Permit to buys full auto weapons,... I hope you've got deep pockets!

[metroplex]

You will probably need all 31 9mm rounds out of that Glock 18 to take down a "bad guy". Did I forget to mention the controllability of an auto Glock 18? It's not very controllable. The fun factor is there, but in a serious SHTF defensive role, the automatic Glock 18 is a poor choice. A SMG or carbine is more controllable and has better penetration/stopping power. A small SBR'd carbine or SMG is concealable (for escort/protection duty) and offers more controllability than a 31 rd 9mm G18.

If you're getting a pistol for defensive purposes or a carry pistol, don't bother with 9mm. Either 45 Auto for cheap plinking ammo / good stopping power, 357 Sig (expensive plinking ammo, good penetration, less recoil), or 40 S&W (good penetration, inexpensive ammo, decent recoil). If I were to get a carry pistol, I'd go with the Glock 27, 40 S&W with standard cap mags.

Since it's too much of a PITA to get a pistol here (need purchase permit, registration, etc...) I don't bother with them.

BTW in the movie Will Smith pulls out a HK UMP from the back of his Ferrari. Was it a UMP 40 or UMP 45?

[jjaguda]

Also, the primary reason the .45 ACP was developed was stopping power via "rapid blood loss." As I understand it, the military was not happy at the turn of the century/ WWI with the .38s stopping power. "They" discovered that the .45 was more likely to snap bones than a .38 and that the .45 produced the quickest loss of blood which promoted unconsciousness. I'm not a historian, but that falls in place with WantOneSoBad's 9mm/.45 story above. Also, as Sactown stated, the Kimbers, even the entry level models, are VERY nice. Don't think too many Departments like the cocked and locked 1911 though. Of the LFOs I know that are allowed a choice in caliber, most like the USP .45 because of its similar geometry to the 1911.

[metroplex]

If you have the money for a HK, get one. The USP-45 runs nearly $1,000. The USP 45 Tactical, which is what most Special Ops choose over the Mk 23 SOCOM (bulky .45 HK) can run as high as $2,000. It's a fine weapon and I'd choose that if I had an unlimited budget and needed a duty weapon in the field.
The USP Compacts are sized for concealed carry, but the price tag is also high. It is not necessarily any more reliable than the Glock or Springfield XD so take your pick.

For concealed carry, Glocks and the Springfield XD might be better choices in terms of size, capabilities, and price (good compromise).

[Brutus]

I say Glock also.(movie) I have 3 Glocks and one Kimber. I like them both but for different reasons. The Kimber is sweet and shoots well, but it just is'nt the everyday beat around gun that the Glocks are. I have both .40 and.45 and personally I would not go smaller that a .40 unless it is a .357 sig. You will also find that the Glock 20 and 21 have a larger grip than the other Glocks and this could be a problem for some. The .45 is an awesome caliber but the military went to it because of the size of the bullet-almost 1/2 an inch. The military cant use hollow point expanding bullets so the bigger the bullet is initialy, the better. The civilian and police community do not have this limitation so we can choose smaller caliber hollow point bullets tha are capable of expanding 1 1/2 times their original size. You can request a copy of the FBI's ammunition test. It has alot of information and could help in chosing a caliber for you. Here is a link to a couple places that can modify a Glock for you.

http://www.arotek.com/index.htm
http://www.custom-glock.com/index2.html

Also keep in mind that nickel plating is pretty but hard chrome is actually harder than the metal it is applied on