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ELKO1
03-11-2005, 11:32 PM
Why couldn't a dealership sell suped up new Crown Vics or GMs, remember Yenko? he would take stock camaros and i believe added 427s to them with other racing accessories. Why couldn't some dealership do the same? Take a Cv add the 5.4L DOHC out of the 2000 cobra R or even the 5.0 cammer. Super charge it, 4.11s, 6 speed manual. How long do you think it would take before Ford would take notice. Honestly Ford is basically going in the wrong direction with the full size RWD platform. I wish I owned a Ford dealership, because that is how i would do it, give the customer what they want and offer a variety. How many cars do you think would sell.

BillyGman
03-11-2005, 11:40 PM
Why couldn't a dealership sell suped up new Crown Vics or GMs, remember Yenko? he would take stock camaros and i believe added 427s to them with other racing accessories. Why couldn't some dealership do the same? Take a Cv add the 5.4L DOHC out of the 2000 cobra R or even the 5.0 cammer. Super charge it, 4.11s, 6 speed manual. How long do you think it would take before Ford would take notice. Honestly Ford is basically going in the wrong direction with the full size RWD platform. I wish I owned a Ford dealership, because that is how i would do it, give the customer what they want and offer a variety. How many cars do you think would sell.That worked great in the late 60's, but gasoline was cheap, and octane ratings were high, and radar guns didn't exist for the police departments, nor did laws that give car insurance companies the upper hand like it is today. So although I like your thoughts on this, and I'd be one of your faithful customers if you did run such a dealer as you spoke of, today it's just a different enviroment, and cars are so expensive now that you might not draw as many customers with those types of specialty cars as dealers did in the late 60's, since you might not be able to supply warantees with those type of cars, and there are very few people who would spend the kind of $$ that cars cost these days without getting atleast a 36,000 mile warantee.

de minimus
03-11-2005, 11:41 PM
Why couldn't a dealership sell suped up new Crown Vics or GMs, remember Yenko? he would take stock camaros and i believe added 427s to them with other racing accessories. Why couldn't some dealership do the same? Take a Cv add the 5.4L DOHC out of the 2000 cobra R or even the 5.0 cammer. Super charge it, 4.11s, 6 speed manual. How long do you think it would take before Ford would take notice. Honestly Ford is basically going in the wrong direction with the full size RWD platform. I wish I owned a Ford dealership, because that is how i would do it, give the customer what they want and offer a variety. How many cars do you think would sell.
I'd buy one.

DEFYANT
03-11-2005, 11:58 PM
The dealer would also put the car in violation of the emissions laws. Specialty builders like Saleen have alot of hurtles to jump to get the modded cars legal. Your local ford dealer couldn't be bothered.

bigslim
03-12-2005, 12:08 AM
The dealer would also put the car in violation of the emissions laws. Specialty builders like Saleen have alot of hurtles to jump to get the modded cars legal. Your local ford dealer couldn't be bothered.
And don't forget the liability on the cars. People buy one, get killed racing and the family sues the dealer.

kartherma
03-12-2005, 02:45 AM
I think there is a natural law of marketing and profitability in play here...
The local ford dealership is selling many cars at a modest (relatively) profit to a mass market (or at least to a geographically limited but large market). That market is represented by the entire spectrum of car buyers. We, the performance minded buyers, are but a sliver (if that) of the market they intend to sell to.

Most of those who take the time to get their cars to perform like the cars you describe would be too picky anyways to settle for a dealer mod car. Most of us take the time to research and go find the experts in the areas we want the performance in...

That said...our market just will not support a dealership who sells all of a maker's vehicles. Those guys need to carry every model offered so they can expect a large enough exposure to the entire market in order to make a decent profit. (after all, that is what a business is right? an operation based on selling goods and services with the intent of making a profit)

So...Folks like Reinhart Engineering, Trilogy Motorsports, and Kenny Brown have specialized in this area. Those of us who have studied know those BRAND NAMES well and the above mentioned have done a very good job penetrating the market we are all addicted to. They will never really appeal to your average car buyer and I am quite sure they dont care...Their profitablility rests on their notariety within a specific circle of people who have money to spend and are very well educated.

Great idea, but if it were truely a profitable one I am POSITIVE that the big three would have been there YEARS ago. (I am trying to say that one should never under estimate big business...Big business goes where the dollar is...and it us just not there for them)

Thank goodness for the specialty shops like Alternative Auto, Reinhart, Trilogy, KB, etc.

Just my two cents:)

Agent M79
03-12-2005, 04:42 AM
While you may be correct in that the dealership themselves will not create the car, I clearly remember dealerships selling Roushed up Mustangs and SLP'd Firebirds.

The reason that a dealership won't take on a Roushed up CV/GM is because they aren't interested. If they were, Roush or Highland would supply them.

The only things dealers do to cars, on occasion, are appearance packages.