Latest Dyno Tune Results Are In! Holy Smokes!

[MI2QWK4U]

The last mods to the Marauder were Kooks Full length Headers, Magnaflow High Flow Cats, Magnaflow X-pipe, 18 in Magnaflow High Flow Mufflers with Custom made 2 1/2 in stainless steel exhaust pipes, and an Accufab Oval Throttle body. Basically concentrating on making the Marauder breath better with the supercharger working as hard as it is.

When last dynoed during the summer of 2004, the Marauder was pushing 460 RWHP and 425 RW Torque.

Today, the results were staggering to say the least! The first test pull yielded 519 RWHP! In the interest of sanity, we settled on a milder tune. The new best of the day was a whopping 489 RWHP and 472 RWTorque! Boost level was around 13.75 #. Is this the highest RWHP for a Marauder so far?

It should be noted that it was at 450 ft/lb of torque at just under 3000 RPM, and didnt drop below 450 again untill 5500 RPM! Peak torque was around 4500 rpm and held steady till about 5000 rpm.

We will play with it some more and settle for a tune that is right around 500 RWHP and is safe, no need to shoot for more than that, but its nice to know that if need be, I can tap up to almost 520 RWHP! I have enough trouble getting the Nittos to hook with 460 at the rear wheels! I think I may go back to the 355 gears as well, to help launch easier at wide open throttle, and will help me have more at the end of my run against other differently supercharged Marauders that are winding out with their 410s.

[sailsmen]

Great numbers! :banana2:

[MI2QWK4U]

Great numbers! :banana2:

If I remember correctly, Lidio said "Scary"!

[MikesMerc]

Wow! Holy cow indeed!

Woo Woo! 450 ft lbs of torque under 3000 rpm....that is just incredible. No need to spool anything up to get into unreal power. LOL...I'd like to see a centrifugal blown marauder do that:D

Very nice Dave. I hope to put up some good numbers as well at tomorrow's Dyno Day at Lidio's. I'll be happy if I can hit just 470rwhp as my set up isn't as xtreme as yours.

See you tomorrow!

[mpearce]

Wow! Nice job Dave. I'm curious to see the times you run this summer. 11's are probably for sure now, rather than a maybe.

-Mat

[MI2QWK4U]

Mike, the torque curve is staggering. 400 ft/lbs of torque at 2600 rpm! And it is still making 400 ft/lbs again at 6500 rpm! The first thing you notice is that the car lives at 400+ ft/lbs of torque the ENTIRE length of the run. Tell me this isnt going to tear some cars up at the track!

[Mike Poore]

Mike, the torque curve is staggering. 400 ft/lbs of torque at 2600 rpm! And it is still making 400 ft/lbs again at 6500 rpm! The first thing you notice is that the car lives at 400+ ft/lbs of torque the ENTIRE length of the run. Tell me this isnt going to tear some cars up at the track!
:2thumbs: Dave, that's sensational! I can't wait to meet you guys at Detroit this summer. :woohoo:

[Todd]

The last mods to the Marauder were Kooks Full length Headers, Magnaflow High Flow Cats, Magnaflow X-pipe, 18 in Magnaflow High Flow Mufflers with Custom made 2 1/2 in stainless steel exhaust pipes, and an Accufab Oval Throttle body. Basically concentrating on making the Marauder breath better with the supercharger working as hard as it is.

When last dynoed during the summer of 2004, the Marauder was pushing 460 RWHP and 425 RW Torque.

Today, the results were staggering to say the least! The first test pull yielded 519 RWHP! In the interest of sanity, we settled on a milder tune. The new best of the day was a whopping 489 RWHP and 472 RWTorque! Boost level was around 13.75 #. Is this the highest RWHP for a Marauder so far?

It should be noted that it was at 450 ft/lb of torque at just under 3000 RPM, and didnt drop below 450 again untill 5500 RPM! Peak torque was around 4500 rpm and held steady till about 5000 rpm.

We will play with it some more and settle for a tune that is right around 500 RWHP and is safe, no need to shoot for more than that, but its nice to know that if need be, I can tap up to almost 520 RWHP! I have enough trouble getting the Nittos to hook with 460 at the rear wheels! I think I may go back to the 355 gears as well, to help launch easier at wide open throttle, and will help me have more at the end of my run against other differently supercharged Marauders that are winding out with their 410s.Thats great numbers on the dyno.... Thats about where I want mine to run once I put my kit on... You should love that power!!!!!!!!

[bigjon]

those are some truly remarkable numbers, congrats!
http://members.aol.com/browrob549/emo/whacky084.gif j/k

[tmac1337]

Those are great numbers. Did you upgrade the fuel injectors or MAF?

[Petrograde]

nice Dave,.. very nice! I think you might have the baddest ass Marauder!

[MI2QWK4U]

Those are great numbers. Did you upgrade the fuel injectors or MAF?

Thank you. The Injectors are the ones in the kit that replace the stock ones, Lid says they are good to 550 rwhp and are just fine. It has a Pro-M MAF.

[tmac1337]

Thank you. The Injectors are the ones in the kit that replace the stock ones, Lid says they are good to 550 rwhp and are just fine. It has a Pro-M MAF.

Excellent! Even better.

[Merc-O-matic]

Dave, Make sure you wear your helmet....
that's one "BAD BOY"!

Gotta Love It! :P

[JDC 302]

Wow, Looks like you've got the "Volumetric Efficiency" Thing nailed down !!
Sounds like the next mod should be Grade 8 Seat Bolts.. Great Numbers..
I would love to see the expression on the next guys face that you TOAST!! How about mounting a rear bumper camera.

[MI2QWK4U]

Those are great numbers. Did you upgrade the fuel injectors or MAF?


Sorry, I didnt mention I believe we are using 42lb injectors.

[shakes_26]

As Sheriff Buford T. Justice would say.... "oouf"

Man, thats a mean machine, your tire dealer must luuuuuuv you. :)

[MI2QWK4U]

As Sheriff Buford T. Justice would say.... "oouf"

Man, thats a mean machine, your tire dealer must luuuuuuv you. :)


I am not that hard on the tires..still on my first set of Nittos, going on a year now.

[04funmerc]

Totally awesome:cool: I bet the grin factor is just out of this world too:)

JIM

[merc406]

The last mods to the Marauder were Kooks Full length Headers, Magnaflow High Flow Cats, Magnaflow X-pipe, 18 in Magnaflow High Flow Mufflers with Custom made 2 1/2 in stainless steel exhaust pipes, and an Accufab Oval Throttle body. Basically concentrating on making the Marauder breath better with the supercharger working as hard as it is.

When last dynoed during the summer of 2004, the Marauder was pushing 460 RWHP and 425 RW Torque.

Today, the results were staggering to say the least! The first test pull yielded 519 RWHP! In the interest of sanity, we settled on a milder tune. The new best of the day was a whopping 489 RWHP and 472 RWTorque! Boost level was around 13.75 #. Is this the highest RWHP for a Marauder so far?

It should be noted that it was at 450 ft/lb of torque at just under 3000 RPM, and didnt drop below 450 again untill 5500 RPM! Peak torque was around 4500 rpm and held steady till about 5000 rpm.

We will play with it some more and settle for a tune that is right around 500 RWHP and is safe, no need to shoot for more than that, but its nice to know that if need be, I can tap up to almost 520 RWHP! I have enough trouble getting the Nittos to hook with 460 at the rear wheels! I think I may go back to the 355 gears as well, to help launch easier at wide open throttle, and will help me have more at the end of my run against other differently supercharged Marauders that are winding out with their 410s.



Holy Smokes Dave :burnout: , dat be with an all stock motor?

[Zack]

If you werent the very last Marauder owner to bolt on a set of headers Id be impressed Dave.
Maybe now you'll consider a sway bar? Control arms?
Expanding your mind far exceeds a fast car, no?

Well anyway, thank you for the inspiration......
Im gonna go dust off my tools.

[maraudernkc]

Dave, those are great numbers!

I am not sure how you got that much RWHP out of the 42LB Injectors which are really 2003 Cobra 39LB Injectors. In our testing the cars are running out of injectors at about 475RWHP.

Are you worried about the stock cast bottom end and those nasty oil pump gears holding together?

Do you have a Dyno sheet to post?

Sounds like you have a real beast on your hands!

Enjoy the new found power.



The last mods to the Marauder were Kooks Full length Headers, Magnaflow High Flow Cats, Magnaflow X-pipe, 18 in Magnaflow High Flow Mufflers with Custom made 2 1/2 in stainless steel exhaust pipes, and an Accufab Oval Throttle body. Basically concentrating on making the Marauder breath better with the supercharger working as hard as it is.

When last dynoed during the summer of 2004, the Marauder was pushing 460 RWHP and 425 RW Torque.

Today, the results were staggering to say the least! The first test pull yielded 519 RWHP! In the interest of sanity, we settled on a milder tune. The new best of the day was a whopping 489 RWHP and 472 RWTorque! Boost level was around 13.75 #. Is this the highest RWHP for a Marauder so far?

It should be noted that it was at 450 ft/lb of torque at just under 3000 RPM, and didnt drop below 450 again untill 5500 RPM! Peak torque was around 4500 rpm and held steady till about 5000 rpm.

We will play with it some more and settle for a tune that is right around 500 RWHP and is safe, no need to shoot for more than that, but its nice to know that if need be, I can tap up to almost 520 RWHP! I have enough trouble getting the Nittos to hook with 460 at the rear wheels! I think I may go back to the 355 gears as well, to help launch easier at wide open throttle, and will help me have more at the end of my run against other differently supercharged Marauders that are winding out with their 410s.

[woaface]

If you werent the very last Marauder owner to bolt on a set of headers Id be impressed Dave.
Maybe now you'll consider a sway bar? Control arms?
Expanding your mind far exceeds a fast car, no?

Well anyway, thank you for the inspiration......
Im gonna go dust off my tools.
That and brakes. Dave did you ever get rid of the stock brakes? You are/were/have been crazy to run a car like that on the same brakes my Grand Marquis uses!

You asked if this is the most RWHP for a Marauder to-date. Note the DynoGraph from Marty's car. Over your rwhp ratings. And also, doesn't Dennis have a Marauder that pushes some insane amount of power past 500 also? Given, your car makes it's power before Marty's does. His does not pass 400 anything until over 4000 RPMs

http://www.legalknevil.com/albums/Marauder/atd.sized.jpg

[Bradley G]

You are/were/have been crazy to run a car like that on the same brakes my Grand Marquis uses!Quote
I thought the brakes were an upgrade on the Marauder over C-vic& GMQ.
James? Don't you have some skirt to chase?J/K:D
Bradley G

[Marauder]

All I can say is WOW!!! Congrats on those numbers.

I "HOPE" to be there some day. I'm just starting my modding. :)

[Smokie]

Today, the results were staggering to say the least! The first test pull yielded 519 RWHP! In the interest of sanity, we settled on a milder tune. The new best of the day was a whopping 489 RWHP and 472 RWTorque! Boost level was around 13.75 #. Is this the highest RWHP for a Marauder so far? .Dave don't forget to put a little money beefing up the rest of your power train....that's a lot of power, use it wisely and enjoy.:beer:

[MI2QWK4U]

If you werent the very last Marauder owner to bolt on a set of headers Id be impressed Dave.
Maybe now you'll consider a sway bar? Control arms?
Expanding your mind far exceeds a fast car, no?

Well anyway, thank you for the inspiration......
Im gonna go dust off my tools.


You know what Zack, I really wasnt expecting to get the results from the headers and exhaust work. I was expecting 470ish or so. My intent isnt to have the fastest car around, because I know I wont be. As long as people like Lidio and Jerry are around to be more hardcore than I am willing to be, I will be happy with what I have.

As for expanding my mind, thats a personal jab at my ability to know what a vehicle needs beyond speed. I have more time behind the wheel of a high performance panther in precision driving situations than you will ever aspire to. That includes taking more into consideration than your control arms, sway bars, etc. Speed is only one side of the total performance triangle, the other two are control, and braking. Speed, Control, Braking...basic precision driving for performance vehicles. The other thing to consider is driving within you vehicles performance perameters. I know my car needs a break upgrade, but that doesnt come into play at the track, im sure I could benefit from sway bars and other suspension upgrades, and will get to it when I feel like it.

So that having been said, what is your point? Sit back and spit out cute, trite, smart asssed comments. I really dont care what your opinions are, until they are directed at me, then I take personal offense. If and when I need your input, trust me, I will ask...but I wouldnt hold my breath over it.

[DEFYANT]

You know what Zack, I really wasnt expecting to get the results from the headers and exhaust work. I was expecting 470ish or so. My intent isnt to have the fastest car around, because I know I wont be. As long as people like Lidio and Jerry are around to be more hardcore than I am willing to be, I will be happy with what I have.

As for expanding my mind, thats a personal jab at my ability to know what a vehicle needs beyond speed. I have more time behind the wheel of a high performance panther in precision driving situations than you will ever aspire to. That includes taking more into consideration than your control arms, sway bars, etc. Speed is only one side of the total performance triangle, the other two are control, and braking. Speed, Control, Braking...basic precision driving for performance vehicles. The other thing to consider is driving within you vehicles performance perameters. I know my car needs a break upgrade, but that doesnt come into play at the track, im sure I could benefit from sway bars and other suspension upgrades, and will get to it when I feel like it.

So that having been said, what is your point? Sit back and spit out cute, trite, smart asssed comments. I really dont care what your opinions are, until they are directed at me, then I take personal offense. If and when I need your input, trust me, I will ask...but I wouldnt hold my breath over it.I saw this one coming.

Ya'know.... gimme a break! Why is it that when someone posts a success story (pick a topic) it seems there are others (NOT ALL) from the other camps(Trilogy, DR, N/A, etc) that feel it necessary to pounce with silly comments.

This place is about our cars, not our mods!

Settle your grudge on the track. If any other mods are needed, thats where it will be evident.

MI2QWK4U, nice job!

[MMSuperFan]

I saw this one coming.

Ya'know.... gimme a break! Why is it that when someone posts a success story (pick a topic) it seems there are others (NOT ALL) from the other camps(Trilogy, DR, N/A, etc) that feel it necessary to pounce with silly comments.

This place is about our cars, not our mods!

Settle your grudge on the track. If any other mods are needed, thats where it will be evident.

MI2QWK4U, nice job!

Amen, Brother!! That is exactly the reason I stopped posting here. :beer:

[MI2QWK4U]

I saw this one coming.

Ya'know.... gimme a break! Why is it that when someone posts a success story (pick a topic) it seems there are others (NOT ALL) from the other camps(Trilogy, DR, N/A, etc) that feel it necessary to pounce with silly comments.

This place is about our cars, not our mods!

Settle your grudge on the track. If any other mods are needed, thats where it will be evident.

MI2QWK4U, nice job!


Thanks for the kind words guys, I realize that some people here are interested in what we do with our cars, and benefit from it. The car is HARDCORE to the bone, but the drivability is unchanged. That cant be said about other setups when you mess with torque converters and gears to the max. The wife was shocked at the numbers, because the way she drives it (never in the boost) it runs just like it did when we bought it, no funky idle fluctuations or surges...Just nice and smooth.
As for the track, I'm ready...bring it. Not many cars here will touch this one, maybe Marty, but I have no desire to run or beat Marty, too much respect for him. Anyone else....

[MI2QWK4U]

Ooops...almost forgot....the new thread....


CLICK HERE FOR THE LASTEST AND GREATEST...AND THE DYNO SHEET! (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17531)

[MI2QWK4U]

Dave, those are great numbers!

I am not sure how you got that much RWHP out of the 42LB Injectors which are really 2003 Cobra 39LB Injectors. In our testing the cars are running out of injectors at about 475RWHP.

Not a problem, in fact, mine was running rich at the end of the run.



Are you worried about the stock cast bottom end and those nasty oil pump gears holding together?

Not with a trustworthy master tuner like Lidio. He is very conservative, and I dont worry about blowing the motor on the Dyno, or anywhere else for that matter.



Do you have a Dyno sheet to post?

Yes sir....this one is the new one...pushing 511 RWHP and 494 RWT...

http://www.mercurygallery.net/mmnet/data/500/252Dave.jpg



Sounds like you have a real beast on your hands!

Enjoy the new found power.

Yes I do, and thank you very much Sir!

[MI2QWK4U]

That and brakes. Dave did you ever get rid of the stock brakes? You are/were/have been crazy to run a car like that on the same brakes my Grand Marquis uses!

You asked if this is the most RWHP for a Marauder to-date. Note the DynoGraph from Marty's car. Over your rwhp ratings. And also, doesn't Dennis have a Marauder that pushes some insane amount of power past 500 also? Given, your car makes it's power before Marty's does. His does not pass 400 anything until over 4000 RPMs

http://www.legalknevil.com/albums/Marauder/atd.sized.jpg


James, Marty's is the baddest ride out there. But look how smooth the torque curve is on mine. Look how fast the torque comes on, maintains, and slightly falls off, still at over 400 ft/lbs! When you come to MVIII, I will let you drive it and you will immediately see the difference that early abundance of Torque makes.

[Gunslinger]

Congratualations on those numbers. Very impressive! Enjoy it

[Marauderman]

Congrats on the numbers and what you have done to your MM-- these cars are so much fun to play with--the numbers are a way bit more than I would want to have---but enjoy them --it's nice to have such a car...good luck with anymore you do.....Tom

[FordNut]

I saw this one coming.

Ya'know.... gimme a break! Why is it that when someone posts a success story (pick a topic) it seems there are others (NOT ALL) from the other camps(Trilogy, DR, N/A, etc) that feel it necessary to pounce with silly comments.

This place is about our cars, not our mods!

Settle your grudge on the track. If any other mods are needed, thats where it will be evident.

MI2QWK4U, nice job!
I dunno, I thought it was just a little humorous ribbing. Things get taken out of context on the internet since you can't see facial expression when the comments are made.

Great numbers Dave.

[DEFYANT]

Things get taken out of context on the internet since you can't see facial expression when the comments are made.
This is the biggest problem with such conversation. Either in email, chat or message boards. But that what the emoticon things are ment to do - convey emotion.