Another kill

[bigslim]

Well today after the raffle drawing I took a ride out to Wild Woodys to see what was going on. Nothing there so I decided to go on Woodward. As I was leaving Woodys a Chrysler 300C decided he would follow me to the light. Well you know what happened next, the light changed I hit it. Problem was I had a little loss of traction and he got me by about a half of car length. By the time I hit second I was two cars on him and it was over. I then headed over to Woodward and met up with a 1970 RoadRunner. We took off together and we were side by side until we hit about 100. He then pulled on me. He then slowed down and showed me his hat. It said he belong to a "Turbo" club. His old RoadRunner had a turbo installed. Man that was sneaky. Anyway, I then turned around and headed home only to by tried by a Suburu WRX. This time I feathered it out of the hole and beat him three times. He smiled and waved. I guess Mike hasn't scared everyone off Woodward yet.

[stevengerard]

Man, you have all the fun!!!

[MarauderMark]

Man, you have all the fun!!!


Way to represent.:up:

[BillyGman]

. This time I feathered it out of the hole and beat him three times. He smiled and waved. I guess Mike hasn't scared everyone off Woodward yet.If Mike's Marauder is black, then your being silver is probably stealth for you. BTW, with the drag radials on the street I've found the best way with my S/Ced MM is to use half throttle to get it out of the hole, and the rubber grabs real good that way until the car moves about 20 or 25 feet and then while it's still in first gear, I can hammer it and it's all traction after that. And that's with 4.56 gears and a 3,000 RPM stall speed. So you might want to try it that way. ;)

[bigslim]

Thanks Billy. I later learned how to launch it better with that WRX. Still learning.

[04funmerc]

Thanks again for the ride today Darryl, wish I could of been with you on Woodward, I'm still grinning:D .

JIM

[bigslim]

Thanks again for the ride today Darryl, wish I could of been with you on Woodward, I'm still grinning:D .

JIM
Nice meeting you today. Hope to see you at some more of our events.

[04funmerc]

Darryl--Had an idea, some are nuts...We'll go out to Woodward and I'll try to find someone that can beat a stock MM..you hang back thill my embarrassment is over than pull up and show them the real deal!!!:D :D NUTS HUH? :lol:

That goes for anyone in MCM, I'm game , Gratiot works for me too.

JIM

[Mike Poore]

Man, Darryl, I LOVE the kill stories, keep 'em coming.

Just think, we get to see Wodward in just a little over two months.:burn:

Btw, I had the Delorme street map up on the 'puter , but couldn't find Woodward Ave.

[Mike Poore]

Darryl--Had an idea, some are nuts...We'll go out to Woodward and I'll try to find someone that can beat a stock MM..you hang back thill my embarrassment is over than pull up and show them the real deal!!!:D :D NUTS HUH? :lol:

That goes for anyone in MCM, I'm game , Gratiot works for me too.

JIM
Hey Jim? Wait until I get there. With my ET's, and 2 sec reaction times, we could really set 'em up for Darryl. :flamer:

[RoyLPita]

You should keep a log book full of slash marks of all of the "kills" that you've done.

[svtguy]

Hope to see you at some more of our events.Speaking of meets and events.
How are things looking for you this weekend?
[/starts begging] me [/ends begging]

[Warpath]

You're an idiot for racing on the street. Take it to the track where it belongs.

[bigslim]

You're an idiot for racing on the street. Take it to the track where it belongs.
I'm sure you have "NEVER" done that. Get a life. :P

[BillyGman]

Just ignore that Darryl. I got the same thing on here when I first installed my Trilogy kit. I was waiting for that. there's always one or two. ( "genius" :rolleyes: ) Like he has a blown Cobra to drive slow. (right).

[04funmerc]

Hey Jim? Wait until I get there. With my ET's, and 2 sec reaction times, we could really set 'em up for Darryl. :flamer:My times are probably worse, what would they think if we were side by side and they beat us both at one time. THE STORIES THEY COULD TELL..:lol: :lol: :lol:


Sorry Darrel, I think I did your thread in:depress: :depress: , The Lounge might have been better for this

JIM

[MarauderMike]

He just doesn't want to get beat by a four door sedan. :D Oh the embarrassment of it all. Great job Darryl

[Warpath]

I'm sure you have "NEVER" done that. Get a life. :P

Nope, never have, never wanted to. I've got nothing to prove. My ego is just fine. I have a life because I haven't been that stupid. I'm tired of hearing about people racing each other and one of them ends up wrapping their car around a tree or t-boning someone who pulled out in front of them. You never know what's in front of you on a public road and its too late when you find out.


there's always one or two. ( "genius" ) Like he has a blown Cobra to drive slow. (right).

Correct, I don't drive all that slow. But, I'm smart enough not to more than double the speed limit with another dumb ass next to me on a public road.

I'm usually the first to admit when I'm wrong or when I'm not knowledgeable enough. But, I'm right here. If you race on the street, you are an idiot. Take it to the track.

[bigslim]

Nope, never have, never wanted to. I've got nothing to prove. My ego is just fine. I have a life because I haven't been that stupid. I'm tired of hearing about people racing each other and one of them ends up wrapping their car around a tree or t-boning someone who pulled out in front of them. You never know what's in front of you on a public road and its too late when you find out.



Correct, I don't drive all that slow. But, I'm smart enough not to more than double the speed limit with another dumb ass next to me on a public road.

I'm usually the first to admit when I'm wrong or when I'm not knowledgeable enough. But, I'm right here. If you race on the street, you are an idiot. Take it to the track.
I can tell you are one classy guy :shake: . One thing I have never done here is lower myself to name calling :nono: . If you have problem state it without the name calling. Thank you for your input.

[txmarauder]

Hey Slim, I would not sweat him too much, he sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder from something, IE someone he knows got hurt or even killed or he got hurt, something happened to him to post a response like that. I work for the fire dept and make accidents all day long and to be honest i have not made one accident this year involving a street race. You hear about street racing accidents on the news because regular car accidents are boring. I dont condone street racing because you never know what will happen but i myself do it and i think if you are racing someone who appears to be a serious car fanatic they will race while being as careful as they can. I will race someone on a open strech with good visibility and only up to about 70 mph or so, i think within that time you know who would win in a quarter. I will be getting my trilogy kit on wedn. and have it on in a week or 2. I would love to go to the dream cruise if i can get off work. I use to live in livonia and work in southgate for Roush racing. I hope we can meet one day.

[bigslim]

Hey Slim, I would not sweat him too much, he sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder from something, IE someone he knows got hurt or even killed or he got hurt, something happened to him to post a response like that. I work for the fire dept and make accidents all day long and to be honest i have not made one accident this year involving a street race. You hear about street racing accidents on the news because regular car accidents are boring. I dont condone street racing because you never know what will happen but i myself do it and i think if you are racing someone who appears to be a serious car fanatic they will race while being as careful as they can. I will race someone on a open strech with good visibility and only up to about 70 mph or so, i think within that time you know who would win in a quarter. I will be getting my trilogy kit on wedn. and have it on in a week or 2. I would love to go to the dream cruise if i can get off work. I use to live in livonia and work in southgate for Roush racing. I hope we can meet one day.
Hope to see you here. Good luck with your Trilogy. You will love it.

[David Morton]

I jump on it from time to time because it just feels good, but I also know when I'm crossing the line and I think most of us know when we've gone too far, like when the other guys balls are doing his thinking and he's willing to go 70 through a school zone and we're unwilling to lose. Those are the times we need to remember the previlege of driving assumes we won't put the public in any undue danger. Just be discriminating and think first. What if some old lady does pull up to that stop sign and just goes as if it were a 4-way?

Bradenton Motorsports Parkway has a test & tune night almost every Thursday, and I'm down there as much as possible. It kinda helps me get it out of my blood. I can easily stomp it at a light in a 45 zone and go to 50 or so and let 'em get away. I don't have to prove anything to a stranger. But the guys at the track? Now that's another story. I'm getting the turbocharger cause that's where the results are for the track.

I'm thinking high 11's on pump gas with stock gears. :D

[BillyGman]

Correct, I don't drive all that slow. But, I'm smart enough not to more than double the speed limit with another dumb ass next to me on a public road.Well then you break the LAW with your vehicle just like Slim does.

I'm usually the first to admit when I'm wrong Not this time, because you're wrong to go preaching to Darryl when you yourself break the LAW by speeding too. I think you should look up a word in the dictionary called HYPOCRISY. We all have to decide for ourselves what going too far is, and what it isn't.

I think that Darryl is old enough to make that decision for himself without you preaching to him like your his dad. Having a blown Cobra on the street, and also claiming in your profile that you never went to the track to race it makes it kind of obvious how you drive ON THE STREET. Who's going to spend thousands of dollars on their car just to make it go a whole lot faster to drive the speed limit? Yes, I'm talking to you who used to go by the username "Leadfoot". Now I wonder what "Leadfoot" implies. :rolleyes: That doesn't sound like you're that much against driving your STREET car fast on the STREET. Until you put on your other face when you decide to start preaching to someone, right? Try looking in the mirror first, and worry about yourself.

"Remove the BEAM from your own eye before helping someone remove the sliver from their's"

[04funmerc]

Hey guys...I did'nt mean to start an argument on Darrel's thread. I may drive fast, but if conditions don't warrent it , no way!!!!
I have yet to have a run on a public street with my MM, generally I,m satisfied with 5-10 over.
I was just trying to make lite of young guys seeing old (others opinion) farts driving good lookin' fast cars on the road, especially if I haven't shaved for a couple days! Have to get my drivers and passenger windows tinted, then no one knows. YEA, I THINK I'LL DO THAT, the girls will go nuts when I get out of the car:rolleyes: and no more pointing fingers:lol:

JIM

I do believe Mike Poore got my little :rolleyes: HUMOR and nice way to represent Slim.

[metroplex]

Well today after the raffle drawing I took a ride out to Wild Woodys to see what was going on. Nothing there so I decided to go on Woodward. As I was leaving Woodys a Chrysler 300C decided he would follow me to the light. Well you know what happened next, the light changed I hit it. Problem was I had a little loss of traction and he got me by about a half of car length. By the time I hit second I was two cars on him and it was over. I then headed over to Woodward and met up with a 1970 RoadRunner. We took off together and we were side by side until we hit about 100. He then pulled on me. He then slowed down and showed me his hat. It said he belong to a "Turbo" club. His old RoadRunner had a turbo installed. Man that was sneaky. Anyway, I then turned around and headed home only to by tried by a Suburu WRX. This time I feathered it out of the hole and beat him three times. He smiled and waved. I guess Mike hasn't scared everyone off Woodward yet.

The 300C SRT-8 will have around 425 hp stock N/A. The Scobby must have been lightly modified or stock with an auto.

[Warpath]

Not this time, because you're wrong to go preaching to Darryl when you yourself break the LAW by speeding too. I think you should look up a word in the dictionary called HYPOCRISY. We all have to decide for ourselves what going too far is, and what it isn't.

I think that Darryl is old enough to make that decision for himself without you preaching to him like your his dad...

I was not referring to breaking any laws in my comments. I was reffering to putting his and other lives in jeapordy for the sake of proving he has a quicker car. To me, that is stupid. I used to drink and drive a lot when I was younger. It doesn't get much more stupid than that. However, I've come to learn that behavior is stupid - not from getting in an accident, but, from finally accepting the consequences are real. Age does not equal wisdom. So, you can call me a hypocrite. But, I don't see how it applies since I no longer act that way. I know better now.


...Having a blown Cobra on the street, and also claiming in your profile that you never went to the track to race it makes it kind of obvious how you drive ON THE STREET. Who's going to spend thousands of dollars on their car just to make it go a whole lot faster to drive the speed limit? Yes, I'm talking to you who used to go by the username "Leadfoot". Now I wonder what "Leadfoot" implies. :rolleyes: That doesn't sound like you're that much against driving your STREET car fast on the STREET. Until you put on your other face when you decide to start preaching to someone, right? Try looking in the mirror first, and worry about yourself...

So, if I were to own a gun, that means I have to go around shooting people? That is true by your logic. I spend money on my Cobra because I like working on it a lot more than driving it. Most people don't understand it. But, its true. I have owned it since summer 1999 and I only have about 3,600 miles on it. You imply I am reckless because I have a fast car. Darryl told us he is reckless. I am worrying about myself. I'm worried someone like him will run into me. Leadfoot never seemed right for me. So, I changed it. I don't like my current one either.


Hey Slim, I would not sweat him too much, he sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder from something, IE someone he knows got hurt or even killed or he got hurt, something happened to him to post a response like that...
I know no one personally who has been injured or killed and I have not been hurt in anyway myself. Sometimes you have to slap someone in the face to get their attention.

[BillyGman]

"450RWHP @ 6,700 rpm;414 ft lb @ 5,000 rpm" just to sit there and look pretty in your garage, or just to drive 55 mph. yeah right. Do you have a bridge to sell us too? You obviously believe your own stories and expect us to believe them too.

[bigslim]

Needless to say I will never post another "Kill" story in fear of getting flamed :depress: . I will drive 55 all the time :rolleyes:.

[LordVader]

Maybe someone can come up with a decal - 10 kills = Marauder S/C ACE


You should keep a log book full of slash marks of all of the "kills" that you've done.

[jstevens]

Please keep kill stories coming.

People unskilled at high speed driving should refrain from behavior which may cause serious injury, luckily I don't have to worry about that as my skill level is high.

[MikesMerc]

Needless to say I will never post another "Kill" story in fear of getting flamed

Don't do that Darryl. Those who feel the need to preach to others are usually just making up for some shortcoming of their own. Often times people feel the need to preach and have others "do as they do" because they lack confidence in thier own convictions. Having "others" join them in a certain behavior makes them feel better and justified.

Although I don't condone all out balls to wall racing on crowded streets, I certainly don't think its a big deal to run someone when the conditions allow for it.

Keep the stories coming Darryl!

[Hack Goby]

I have owned it since summer 1999 and I only have about 3,600 miles on it.Wait a minute,do you have a brother named Santino?(thats a Motor City joke)

[merc406]

racing on the street. Take it to the track where it belongs.


Hey Joe, you stole my line...

Been :flamer: ed for it before, after seeing a good friend of mine get killed

back in 87 from a street race, ( he was standing on the sidewalk) I, an

offender of a few street races stopped needless to say, and the horror of

seeing it comes back when I simply hear or read or see one going on, on the

street. Please use your heads when you'all are using our roads, you are

never alone when you think the coast is clear.

[Smokie]

Warpath, You could have made a valid and worthwhile point about street racing without insulting Darryl who happens to be a friend and a respected member of this club, your intentions may have been good but you went about it all wrong....let me ask you this: How well do you respond to criticism, when it begins with the words you idiot ????

Bigslim, I have enjoyed your posts (as always) and I do enjoy kill stories, I know how much fun you are having with your car since the install and it is well deserved.
Having said that, as a friend I remind you to pick the right time and place so the kill is a safe one.

[bigslim]

Thanks for all the support. I went out and lit up the tires in celebration. :banana2:

[BillyGman]

Although I don't condone all out balls to wall racing on crowded streets, I certainly don't think its a big deal to run someone when the conditions allow for it.

Keep the stories coming Darryl!Exactly. There needs to be a balance. racing people in heavy or moderate traffic, driving on the shoulder to pass people, weaving in and out of lanes as if you're using other cars as moving cones, and flying down streets with hidden driveways and parked cars is plain crazy and irresponsible. But when there are no trees, parked cars, nor heavy traffic or tight turns on the road, and it's just plain wide open visibility, and dry pavement, then even though there are still risks, the risk factors are much lower.

People have to be realistic, and have a balance. And it isn't realistic to be one extreme nor the other. If you have spent thousands of dollars extra just tomake your car faster, and to get the rear wheel power #'s into the 400+ range, it's just an unrealistic standard to set for yourself (and for others) which dictates that you're never going to EVER drive fast regardless of what the road conditions are. That's a standard that most people are just not going to stick to IF they're driving a car with that much power. And to say that you'll always stick by such an unrealistic standard is just a fairytale, cuz it aint gonna happen.

[04funmerc]

Ditto what Billy said:) I really really enjoy reading about them.

:drool: Until I get my front windows tinted:jk:

JIM

[MarauderMark]

Please keep kill stories coming.


Yes just edit them correctly before posting and all is well..:up:

[Warpath]

Warpath, You could have made a valid and worthwhile point about street racing without insulting Darryl who happens to be a friend and a respected member of this club, your intentions may have been good but you went about it all wrong....let me ask you this: How well do you respond to criticism, when it begins with the words you idiot ????


Fair enough and point taken. I appologize to all who I offended for losing my cool. However, I don't appoligize for my position on street racing. I wanted to make a point and hopefully reduce or prevent these stories from being posted. A simple, "Ahem, perhaps going over 100 on Woodward was a poor decision" would have likely been overlooked. I don't like it when people glorify such unsafe activities. I'm am used to other boards where a thread is immediately locked when street racing is mentioned and the poster is chastised. I'll summarize why I hate street racing:

There is no control over the environent during a street race. You do not know if there is an oil slick, pot hole, shrapnel, etc. on the road which could send you vering off the road into someone else or something else. What if a part breaks and you lose control? You cannot control where other people are and whether they pull out in front of you. I agree there are public areas that are lower risk than other. But, the risks still exist.

At a track (I making assumptions from pictures I've seen), the track is well kept and cleared of debris. Vehicles are safety inspected before the race and you are required to have proper safety equipment (helmet, cage, etc.) at least after the first run. There are ambulences near by in case of an accident. If someone loses control, they're contained within the track. The only risk to life and limb are to the drivers who know and accept the consequenses. No one else loses personal property.

You may believe that the coast is clear and a particular area is safe. But, that is not fool proof. The arguement that you don't know of any racing accidents is fooling yourself into believing past luck will continue.

I'm not a competitive person. I don't have the need to prove I'm better than anyone. Doing so, to me, is only serving to inflate one's ego. As I stated before, putting others at risk against their knowledge or without their approval for personal satisfaction is foolish IMO.

Hack - I have no idea what you are talking about.

Billy - I get similar reaction from other people as I do from you. People ask me what I do with the car (race at the strip or road course, shows, etc.). They laugh at me when I tell them the truth. You may not believe it. But, there's nothing I can do to prove it. I certainly do not go 55 (limit is 70). I usually go about 80-85 on the highway which is not uncommon. But, I certainly do not go that fast on a side street.

merc406 - Thanks for sharing.


Those who feel the need to preach to others are usually just making up for some shortcoming of their own. Often times people feel the need to preach and have others "do as they do" because they lack confidence in thier own convictions. Having "others" join them in a certain behavior makes them feel better and justified.

Say what you will. I couldn't care less about what others think of me. We all have our shortcomings. I pointed out some shortcomings of members here. I "preach" because I feel strongly about it and the reasons above. I feel justified because I spoke my mind.

[BillyGman]

Warpath, why even post your HP and TQ ratings of your car if none of that power is ever used? What's the point? It's kinda like an old guy taking Viagra just to show someone how "big" he gets and nothing more. Why not drive a 6 cylinder Mustang instead?

[txmarauder]

Warpath, I respect the fact that you do not like people racing on the street. You have voiced your opinion and we are all aware of it so now you should repect ours when we like to race on the street carefully, like a person who comes up to you to preach about religion if you say you are not interested they should respect that a move on as i think you should. Not all street races are to speeds over the speed limit like i said by the time you get up to 70 or so you know who would win. I race maybe once a month and may go over the speed limit, so i put people at risk once a month, you stated you speed everytime you are on the highway by 10-15 mph those are the accidents i am constantly making on a highway so actually you are putting more people at risk then the street racers are. Just because traffic flows at a higher then posted speed does not mean you have to, people like you and the people you speed with is why the speed limits keep going up and more people are dying.

[BillyGman]

Warpath, I respect the fact that you do not like people racing on the street. You have voiced your opinion and we are all aware of it so now you should repect ours when we like to race on the street carefully, like a person who comes up to you to preach about religion if you say you are not interested they should respect that a move on as i think you should. Not all street races are to speeds over the speed limit like i said by the time you get up to 70 or so you know who would win. I race maybe once a month and may go over the speed limit, so i put people at risk once a month, you stated you speed everytime you are on the highway by 10-15 mph those are the accidents i am constantly making on a highway so actually you are putting more people at risk then the street racers are. Just because traffic flows at a higher then posted speed does not mean you have to, people like you and the people you speed with is why the speed limits keep going up and more people are dying.Exactly. We're all in the same boat. So how can anyone of us preach against it? I think that the main focus should be that everyone has to set some personal rules for themselves BEFORE they get out on the street with their vehicle, and stick to those personal rules whatever they decide they should be.

It's those who don't adhere to any self-governed limits and who just let their nerve guide them who pose the most danger to others on the streets. That isn't to say that we are angels, but everyone has to choose for themselves where they should draw the line, and other than that, it's between them, and Law enforcement.

[Ezbok58a]

Just to inform, while street racing is enheritly dangerous by me we Usually get into these type of whos faster than who, lets run it arguments after the tracks are closed for 3-4 hours.

Telling people lets do it tomorrow at the track just doesn'twork for them and the crowd.
When I've street raced, My friends and I usually pick this remote, middle of nowhere street thats flat. And we usually drive over the racing area and then make a u-turn and go back the way we came.

I really don't do that anymore because Noone wants to race a all black Crown Victoria:rolleyes:

But I have gotten some of my best wins street racing.

Beat a ws6 Firebird, Turbo Eclipse,turbo Civic, 93 5.0, and my friends G20 after he had a head start.
Ah, to be young again:D

[Dan]

Needless to say I will never post another "Kill" story in fear of getting flamed :depress: . I will drive 55 all the time :rolleyes:.

Bigslim,

Don't let anyone wear you down.

Don't forget that nearly all of us has a "private track" within short driving distance of wherever we are. :)

Dan

[bigslim]

Man, this is getting as bad :( as the "supercharger Wars" used to get.

[Warpath]

Warpath, why even post your HP and TQ ratings of your car if none of that power is ever used? What's the point? It's kinda like an old guy taking Viagra just to show someone how "big" he gets and nothing more. Why not drive a 6 cylinder Mustang instead?

I post it partially as free advertisement for Lidio. I was happy with him and thought I'd give him props. Its also out of habit since everyone else does on Mustang boards. Otherwise, I'd leave it out. I don't need the blue pill either :) V6? Why bother, right? I'm no angel behind the wheel either and drive it spiritively (not too aggressively). But, I don't take the risk of going 100+ on a road like Woodward. Woodward has cross roads everywhere and some of the businesses are close to the edge of the road. There is a lot of opportunity for something bad to happen. Going 85 on the highway with 1/2 of traffic is different to me. Call me hypocritical if you like. But, it is different to me.

txmarauder - I usually don't like to beat a dead horse. So, my post above was going to be my last on this thread. However, questions were asked. I was such a prick above because I feel strongly about it for one. Also, I wanted to get the response I got. It got a lot of attention. I'm not trying to save the world - just make you think. Unfortunately, I was hoping that me and merc406 would not be the minority. I guess I shouldn't be surprised when talking to gearheads.