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Svashtar
05-24-2005, 04:50 PM
I have done a search on this, and think I know the answer, but as usual want to check myself with the guys on this forum:

Was the MM technically _not_ an SVT vehicle? I was thinking about putting some SVT badging on the car, but don't want to be inaccurate, or make claims that are not true. You would think they would have had some input from that team, but from what I have read the MM's were not SVT efforts. (?)

Let me know what you think. I am not saying the info I have is BS or otherwise, just trying to verify.

Thanks as always!

Norm

MM03MOK
05-24-2005, 05:01 PM
The Marauder was not an SVT vehicle. The concept was first pitched to SVT as a Blackhawk, based on a Crown Vic, but SVT, which is a Ford only division, passed on it. It was then pitched to Mercury and became what we know as the Marauder.

MarauderMark
05-24-2005, 05:03 PM
Theres a couple of members here that have it on there trunks.If i didn't have the "R" on my back then i wouldv'e had SVT.. :D

Svashtar
05-24-2005, 05:58 PM
Too bad! That's what I had heard, so thanks for verifying. Maybe "S55" instead then. (?) That at least is related specifically to the Marauder...


Thanks,

Norm

Joe Walsh
05-24-2005, 06:19 PM
The Marauder is about as close to an SVT vehicle as you can get without the 'SVT' badges...

The Maruder is not just another 'Special Edition' vehicle like Honda constantly dumps on the public....you know; a new paint color, sport mirrors and leather seats.....
WOOOOOOO!!! A Rare 'Special Edition' Honda!! :puke: :shake: *

The Marauder has a unique; high performance drivetrain, dual exhaust & tips, sport suspension, 18" rims, KDW tires, interior, dash, gauge pack, front fascia, grille, and bumper cover. The only SVT item that it is missing is the EATON S/C!

*P.S. Can you tell that I HATE HONDAs.....

I REALLY DO DESPISE THOSE POS!

They exist because a large portion of the American public view cars as just another appliance!

:soap: Whew! My rant is done! I return this thread to its normally scheduled programming.....

blackf0rk
05-24-2005, 07:26 PM
I feel that anyone who has a blown marauder has the right to put the SVT tag on; other wise ... :nono:

I personally am blown (well this Saturday I will be), and I'm not going to put the SVT badges on. If someone knows what the SVT means, and sees it on a Marauder (and knows that a Marauder was 1. Not Originall on the SVT vehicle list, and 2. Knows a Marauder is not blown from the factory) they're going to think you're posing - like the Chevy guys who put the SS emblems on their cars and they don't do anything with them.

So even if I had a supercharger I wouldn't do it for that reason. But for all of you who have S/C'ers and the SVT badge - go get 'em! :)

:burnout:
:burnout:

AzMarauder
05-25-2005, 06:39 AM
I feel that anyone who has a blown marauder has the right to put the SVT tag on; other wise ... :nono:

I personally am blown (well this Saturday I will be), and I'm not going to put the SVT badges on. If someone knows what the SVT means, and sees it on a Marauder (and knows that a Marauder was 1. Not Originall on the SVT vehicle list, and 2. Knows a Marauder is not blown from the factory) they're going to think you're posing - like the Chevy guys who put the SS emblems on their cars and they don't do anything with them.

So even if I had a supercharger I wouldn't do it for that reason. But for all of you who have S/C'ers and the SVT badge - go get 'em! :)

:burnout:
:burnout:
I am not sure how a blower equals SVT. SVT means the vehicle was built by Ford's Special Vehicle Team. The MM wasn't built by SVT. A MACH I emblem would be more appropriate (since the motor is nearly identical to the automatic equipped MACH I )

I just feel the owners of true SVT vehicles are entitled to the exclusivity that comes with that product. Anyone adding SVT to a non SVT vehicle, it just looks like "wanna be".

Opinion rendered... mine alone and I take full responsibility for it.

twolow
05-25-2005, 06:50 AM
Your forgetting as well that the motors in a SVT have a lot more time invested as they are put together by hand by a tech, not just shoved down the line as the standard engine.

SVT badge on our car is like buying knockoff name brand clothes on Ebay.

We did borrow on SVT's ideas and parts on the shelf but I'm sure a lot of Ford products now borrow the ideas and parts off of past SVT lines.

MENINBLK
05-25-2005, 06:55 AM
SVT = Special VEHICLE Team.

This equates to much more than an engine with Forced Induction.
There are many more parts designed specifically for a SVT.
So even if your Marauder is Force Induced, it still doesn't qualify as a SVT.

You'll never see any SVT badges on any of my vehicles,
unless they came from Ford's SVT division.

The Marauder has its own Limelight and SVT has theirs.
Why would you want to confuse the two ?

SVT ? NOT, Never Will, Never Has, Not Even Close...


End of subject...

blackf0rk
05-25-2005, 07:04 AM
You all make good points. I retract my statement. Let it be known though...


...they're going to think you're posing. So even if I had a supercharger I wouldn't do it for that reason.
:)

SergntMac
05-25-2005, 07:10 AM
The Marauder has its own Limelight and SVT has theirs.
Why would you want to confuse the two?
Ditto.

I mean no offense to anyone wanting to dress up their car, but the name "Marauder" is unique in it's own right. It has it's own and honorable place in automotive history, and 3 times now. I see no reason at all to add anything to it, badge-wise. I participated in the initial design and offering of the our special fender badge with MartyO, and I couldn't bring myself to add them to my MM. The car is a beauty all by itself, why make it into something it's not? Afterall, we lead the pack, let the SVTs and Machs read it off our bumper. Again, no offense intended, it's your car.

svtguy
05-25-2005, 07:12 AM
Plus not all SVT products are s/c'ed anyway.
A few here have done it (SVT badges on M's) and I agreed as someone else stated its more about making the point that the M should have been an SVT.
And besides that, if anyone wants the badges on their M, its their car so thats all that really matters.

MaLo03
05-25-2005, 07:15 AM
Dag, you guys get deep.

twolow
05-25-2005, 07:23 AM
Simply put, I will NEVER but a SVT badge on my car.

I WILL, however, go put a Lighting SVT badge on my Ford Ranger :D Instant 325 hp.

MENINBLK
05-25-2005, 07:32 AM
Simply put, I will NEVER but a SVT badge on my car.

I WILL, however, go put a Lighting SVT badge on my Ford Ranger :D Instant 325 hp.

lol
Make sure you put the 'R' after the 'SVT'.
That gives you an extra 50HP and saves .5 sec on 1.4 mile...

blackf0rk
05-25-2005, 07:39 AM
You're missing the point - real horsepower comes from vinyl :P

Shaft333
05-25-2005, 08:18 AM
Stickers are for kids.

I can't add anything that hasn't been said already about the MM's relation to SVT. I do agree though that the MM is not SVT and should not be badged as such.

I think stickers on the MM kind of spoil it's appeal.

Warpath
05-25-2005, 08:45 AM
I'm another one who suggests not to do it. Although, I'm biased. :)

SVT at the time MM was developed stated they only modify Ford brand vehicles. They have recently changed their scope to becoming more behind the scenes instead of out front, in your face. If you look at the new SVT Shelby Cobra GT500 or whatever its called, the only SVT badging on it is the center caps of the wheels (if memory serves me correctly).

gpfarrell
05-25-2005, 09:04 AM
I wouldn't do the SVT because our cars aren't SVTs.

If I see an ordinary BMW with an "M" badge stuck on it I figure the guy is a poser. However, if I snuck an M3 engine into our station wagon I'd be tempted to put the "M" on it... it ain't braggin' if you can back it up.

I would be tempted to do the coiled cobra badge though... it's got lots of hi-po FoMoCo history in it... all the way back to Cobra Jet Mercurys, and I think the 32 valve 4.6 link is somewhat legit too.

Tempted, but I never did... I'm signing up for the Marauder badges instead!

svtguy
05-25-2005, 09:11 AM
I'm going to completely debadge so that the average gawker that can't figure out what it is anyway will be even more confused. And so the average ricer can go home crying to mommy when they think they just got smoked by an old man's car.

Svashtar
05-25-2005, 03:56 PM
As usual you guys nailed the question! Thanks for backing up my research. (You don't know if you don't ask.) I have the MM fender badges I bought from Logan on, and I think they do add to the car.

I was looking at the red S55 badge Donny is working on that goes under the right taillight, but as I mentioned in another thread, I guess even that would not apply as my car is not S/C'd, and never will be probably as long as I live in this state.

However, I WILL keep my SVT cigarette lighter delete plug!

Thanks,

Norm

P.S. Fordnut just responded saying that he was not sure if the S55 SEMA car was S/C'd or not, but that the designation indicated a Ford performance product only (I am paraphrasing), so S55 may not be entirely inaccurate on an N/A car after all. (?)

Glenn
05-27-2005, 08:03 PM
O'Well, again I am a minority of one. I have the infamous 2003/4 Cobra SVT chrome emblem on the left side of the trunk. I think it looks great. I also looked long and hard for the discontinued SVO rear axle gridle. They both complement each other. It must look authenic because I get comments on the "SVT MM". I guess I am not a purist.

Glenn

ncmm
05-27-2005, 08:14 PM
Badgeless, badges, stickers, whatever you think is right. :up:

As long as you know you love your car. :marauder:

Just please don't put a big wing on your car. :lol:

AzMarauder
05-27-2005, 08:53 PM
O'Well, again I am a minority of one. I have the infamous 2003/4 Cobra SVT chrome emblem on the left side of the trunk. I think it looks great. I also looked long and hard for the discontinued SVO rear axle gridle. They both complement each other. It must look authenic because I get comments on the "SVT MM". I guess I am not a purist.

Glenn
To each their own.... you make the payments... drive it your way :D

Just for interest... when someone comes up and says... "Gee, I never knew that SVT made a Mercury product..... where did you get that?" How do you reply?

"I've got the only one that was made?" :rolleyes:

twolow
05-28-2005, 05:57 AM
P.S. Fordnut just responded saying that he was not sure if the S55 SEMA car was S/C'd or not, but that the designation indicated a Ford performance product only (I am paraphrasing), so S55 may not be entirely inaccurate on an N/A car after all. (?)
The SEMA car was S/C'ed but S55 goes back to the old Marauders to designate more luxery and extra power and they were not S/C'ed, plus the fact the S55 car at SEMA was never produced, so I say the S55 pays homage to the old Marauders and can be used on any 03-04 Marauder just as long as you got all the options (cd changer, heated seats) to qualify for luxery ;)

Rider90
05-28-2005, 06:19 AM
The SEMA car was S/C'ed but S55 goes back to the old Marauders to designate more luxery and extra power and they were not S/C'ed, plus the fact the S55 car at SEMA was never produced, so I say the S55 pays homage to the old Marauders and can be used on any 03-04 Marauder just as long as you got all the options (cd changer, heated seats) to qualify for luxery ;)

S55 just meant bucket seats, center console, and a floor shifter on top of the engine, we all have S55's.

twolow
05-28-2005, 06:46 AM
S55 just meant bucket seats, center console, and a floor shifter on top of the engine, we all have S55's.
Then gimme a badge :)