MY Car Wont Start!!!!???

[Doobie1]

Ok its my 04 Crown Vic I drove like 2 days ago no problems, now today try to start it, no start. All the interior lights are on, outside, brake lights all come on, when I turn the key nothing happens just the lights on the dash come on like when your about to start the car, but doesnt crank over when i turn the key back I can hear a slight clicking. The car hasn't been my daily driver so I dont know what the hell is going on just had the fuel filter,oil change done, but thats it. Thought it might be the fuel switch in the trunk but thats not it either.


WHATS WRONG!!????

[SergntMac]

"Clicking" but no crank over typically indicates dead battery.

[MM2004]

Doobie,

With the headlamps on, do they go out when you try and crank the engine over?

If so, probably battery.

Is there a "click" when you try starting?

Mike.


Ok its my 04 Crown Vic I drove like 2 days ago no problems, now today try to start it, no start. All the interior lights are on, outside, brake lights all come on, when I turn the key nothing happens just the lights on the dash come on like when your about to start the car, but doesnt crank over when i turn the key back I can hear a slight clicking. The car hasn't been my daily driver so I dont know what the hell is going on just had the fuel filter,oil change done, but thats it. Thought it might be the fuel switch in the trunk but thats not it either.


WHATS WRONG!!????

[twolow]

I've had a Ford Taurus do that, it ended up being the Anti-Theft module...it wasn't seeing that i had the proper key (PATS) so it refused to start. In fact, the module would work unless it was a hot day, obviously it had a bad solder joint or something. $200 or something like that to fix.

I had a Nissan truck do that, it ended up being a bad starter relay. Few bucks to fix.

I've had lots of cars do that I guess :)

[Shaft333]

Smells like PATS.

[grampaws]

starter solenoid or starter

ignition relay/used o be on firewall or inner fender
after '97 they are in the main junction box under the hood
or start position on your ignition switch tipically
at the bottom of steering column..
Common also is bad ground wire to the engine block..
Check battery terminals loosen clean and retighten..
check for power at each location with test light
start with starter both large and small wire..with IGN in start position..
then check the ign switch ..cycle switch from on to start
and see id you can find the wire that goes on and of...
to check ground hook one side off booster cable from the engine
block to the NEG battery terminal..
Haven't had any pats probs yet, could be!!


mind you '04 isn't it still under warranty??

[Doobie1]

mind you '04 isn't it still under warranty??Yeah but I HATE giving my car to the Dealership!!

[jgc61sr2002]

Did you try to jump start it? I also agree sounds like the battery.

[wchain]

Does the PATS light flash fast when you put it to *start*?

Did you try to start it in neutral?

[fastblackmerc]

Does the PATS light flash fast when you put it to *start*?

Did you try to start it in neutral?
Dirty battery cable connections at the battery or a battery on it's last legs....

[Doobie1]

Yeap tried jump starting it, horn,radio,lights all work fine, jump starting did nothing. The Red PATS lights flashes regulary. I'm thinking its something with the starter

[Doobie1]

Brand new red-top optima battery just got put in like a month ago.

[wchain]

Brand new red-top optima battery just got put in like a month ago.
You tried the neutral thing?

That starter is a wh*re to get out too!

[Doobie1]

You tried the neutral thing?

That starter is a wh*re to get out too!
Uhhhh Im not sure I have i'll give that a try, so the next thing would be the starter if its not the battery right???

Could it have something to do with the installer installed a in-dash dvd in my car BUT the car started and ran fun for like 2 days i put it in the garage for 2 days now this happens, or the in dash dvd has nothing to do with it ?

[wchain]

Uhhhh Im not sure I have i'll give that a try, so the next thing would be the starter if its not the battery right???

Could it have something to do with the installer installed a in-dash dvd in my car BUT the car started and ran fun for like 2 days i put it in the garage for 2 days now this happens, or the in dash dvd has nothing to do with it ?
Heres something Random
When he putthe DVD in, did he requre you to have the Parking brake on when the DVD player was in use? If so, did you try applying the parking brake and starting the car?

[Doobie1]

No the DVD player works even withouut the parking brake engage.

[SeaKingDriver]

Odd. I too experienced a non-starting Marauder this morning. I drove my wife to the airport at 05:30, back home by 06:30, had a short snooze; and tried to start the car at 07:45 to go to work - and: nothing... only the bonging of the warning bells, and all the lights on the instrument cluster - but no clicking from the starter solenoid (I assume there is one somewhere) , and certainly no cranking of the engine. I was (am) perplexed. The only thing "unusual" I had done during the earlier trip was to zip home on Hwy2 at about 170 kph - no big deal (yeah, the RCMP are all home in bed at that hour).

Anyway, I scratched me '***, and jumped in the van to go to work - but this evening, upon returning home, I hopped in the MM and - whaddyaknow - the thing started like there was nothing wrong.

I am still perplexed by this; I looked in the manual, and noted that the presence of RFID key tags (I have a "Shell Fast Pass") can affect the key - but even when I pressed the RFID tag close to the key, it still started without any hesitation.

Anyone out there who can figure this one out? (The battery posts are impeccably clean - no corrosion anywhere in the starter circuits AFAIK)

Marvin
Edmonton

[Dr Caleb]

Anyone out there who can figure this one out? (The battery posts are impeccably clean - no corrosion anywhere in the starter circuits AFAIK)

Marvin
Edmonton

All the mounties are on coffee break at the time Marv :) Just slow down around the Timmies off 34th Ave.

No clicking, nothing? Try to put it in neutral, see if it starts. Might be the loose tranny cable problem.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5188

It's an easy adjustment. If your car is still on warranty - call Ford! Just don't take it to Kentwood.

[427435]

My wife's '03 Explorer ended up with a low battery (not dead) this weekend due to a reading light being left on. Still enough power for lights etc. but wouldn't crank. Hooked up the battery charger for 24 hours and still wouldn't crank (lights were brighter, however). Jumped it from a running car----still no crank. Checked the starter relay fuse. The manual says disconnect the battery when checking these fuses so I did. Fuse was OK. When I reconnected the battery, I heard a click from a relay somewhere in the engine compartment. Tried the starter and it started just fine.

So, try disconnecting the battery for a minute and then re-connect.

Good luck.

[427435]

So, what was the problem? The solution may be useful for someone in the future. :)

[mercmatt]

my dad had a problem starting his marauder one morning. the key wouldnt turn. kinda like when the wheel is locked. but it wasnt locked. as a matter of fact, mine and his marauders dont lock (steering wheel) when the key is out of the ignition and you turn the wheel. is that normal? so anyways he had the car flatbeded to the dealership and they said they put a new ignition in.

[MarauderMark]

my dad had a problem starting his marauder one morning. the key wouldnt turn. kinda like when the wheel is locked. but it wasnt locked. as a matter of fact, mine and his marauders dont lock (steering wheel) when the key is out of the ignition and you turn the wheel. is that normal? so anyways he had the car flatbeded to the dealership and they said they put a new ignition in.

You sure your cars weren't theft recovery cars??lol i'm only kiddin
Yesh it's normal.it's when it locks you gotta watch out for.. :D

[Doobie1]

Now the damn battery is dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Something is draining the battery but I dont know what the hell it could be the only electrical stuff is the alarm (which has been on there about a year)
and the tv which is off. No doors or light were left on! I jumped it got lights and everything but still the no start problem i am :mad2:

[Mike Poore]

Now the damn battery is dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Something is draining the battery but I dont know what the hell it could be the only electrical stuff is the alarm (which has been on there about a year)
and the tv which is off. No doors or light were left on! I jumped it got lights and everything but still the no start problem i am :mad2:
There's your answer. When the battery gets low, the alarm gets all loopy and won't let the car start. Go to Wall-Mart get a new battery, put it in and all will be well. Trust me on this ...OK? :D

[Doobie1]

So will a TV not make my car start?
I was thinking it was something the installer cut or something???

[MENINBLK]

So will a TV not make my car start?
I was thinking it was something the installer cut or something???

Before you connect the new battery, be ready to LOOK for anything that comes on when you connect both terminals.
If you see a inside light or headlamps come on, then that is what drained your battery.

[Doobie1]

Before you connect the new battery, be ready to LOOK for anything that comes on when you connect both terminals.
If you see a inside light or headlamps come on, then that is what drained your battery.
Im 99.8% sure my headlights, or headlamps were NOT left on I always check my car to make sure of it before I leave it.

So I have 2 problems No start, and something is draining my battery im thinking the no start is the starter/stater solenoid, and the battery draining thing I have no clue since it just recently happen and whats funny is I jumped last night when out there this morning, NOTHING battery is dead again.

[Mike Poore]

NOTHING battery is dead again.
Doobie, that confirms my arguement. If you can jump start the car, you've got a dead battery. Sometimes, batteries die, just go get a new one and you'll be a happy guy. :D

[wchain]

So its been five days, your cars still not running....are you still going to keep messing with it?

[Doobie1]

Nope im goin to have it towed to the Stealership & I just gotta hear there mouth about how my car is all modded up and voide the warranty!! :mad2:

[Doobie1]

And thats a brand new optima battery it shouldnt be dead a 124$ battery :mad:

[Mike Poore]

Nope im goin to have it towed to the Stealership & I just gotta hear there mouth about how my car is all modded up and voide the warranty!! :mad2:
Just wondering; but you're not related to that kid wantonesobad are you?:rolleyes:

[wchain]

Just wondering; but you're not related to that kid wantonesobad are you?:rolleyes:

:rofl: :banana: :lol:

[SeaKingDriver]

This afternoon my :censor: 2003 MM didn't start AGIN. :help: Everything else works: all the bells and whistles, lights, compass, CD player, satellite tracker, VHF transceiver, radioactive radar jammer, but no starter action AT ALL (not even a click). And, durn it all, in the parking lot at work, of course. (Got a ride home in a friend's '89 bimmer. (What a piece of... (wait a minute, his started...))).

After having reviewed all of the Pertinent Posts (PPs), I apparently now have available five courses of action:

1. Connect the van battery to it with booster cables, and try starting it using some extra available amperage.
2. Take tools and disconnect and reconnect the battery - (in case it is the starter relay fuse).
3. Fiddle-fart with the shifter (done that already, but might work 2nd time around) in case it is the neutral start switch shift linkage adjuster gizmo thang.
4. Check (tighten) the connectors on the right inner fender well (one of them thar 3 connectors behind the battery.

The fifth thing is (shudder) call the tow truck :eek: to drag it to the dealer.

Marvin

(Could the starter be allergic to my radioactive radar jammer???)

[SeaKingDriver]

The fifth thing is (shudder) call the tow truck :eek: to drag it to the dealer.

The fifth thing is what I did today. After $183 for the tow, labour and a new starter relay, I showed up at City Ford and... it still wouldn't start! The mechanic said he started it 15 times, and then drove it to the lot... Anyway, it's still at the dealer and a new starter assembly is being installed . For another $297.00 plus GST. (...they said they'll install it for free)

Marvin

[Dr Caleb]

I showed up at City Ford and... it still wouldn't start!
Marvin

City Ford :down: Did they call it a Grand Marquis? :shake: Healy Ford downtown and Freedom Ford on the south side are SVT dealers. I like Healy, but only because it's closer to me.

It's not still under the factory 3 year warranty?

[SeaKingDriver]

No, the car now has over 90000 km on it, and the warranty for the starter is long gone, I'm afraid. Only a little bit of "drivetrain" warranty left - I don't believe the starter is considered part of the drivetrain... or is it? I suppose, if you shut off the fuel, could you put it in "Drive" and turn the key, and move the car a bit? Maybe that would make the starter part of the 'drivetrain'. Hmm.

I took it to City Ford because it was the closest dealer to my work, and I didn't want a huge towing bill. (I don't need AMA, because I have a (fairly) new Marauder, and they are reliable, right?) (I work at the Alberta Gaming and Liquor Commission (chief
:beer:
taster, Whiskey division... ) in St. Albert, only 3 minutes up the road.)

Anyway, got the car back today and so far (KOW - knock on wood) - the start works like the good ol' days. (so does the throttle, as a matter of fact)

Cheers

Marvin

[Mike Muldrow]

My 04 DTR would do the same thing and if I honked the horn and turned the key at the same time it would start. Sounds crazy but every time it worked. 4 times in a year. Dealer could not find the problem.

[Dr Caleb]

I took it to City Ford because it was the closest dealer to my work, and I didn't want a huge towing bill. (I don't need AMA, because I have a (fairly) new Marauder, and they are reliable, right?) (I work at the Alberta Gaming and Liquor Commission (chief :beer: taster, Whiskey division... ) in St. Albert, only 3 minutes up the road.)

Marvin

Beer quaffing and poker playing all day long, on my hard stolen tax dollars ;)

Hehehe. I used to work in St. Albert too, up till this spring. Surprised we never passed each other going to work! Now I work just south of there, on 184th south of the Yellowhead (Quebecor).

Yea, that's why I like Healy, because it's closer to where I am. And they are an SVT dealer. So, whenever I have my first problem (*knock* *knock), I'll take it there.