DR S/ced # 18

[MarauderMark]

Well Dennis has my car as most of ya'll know well this is what has happened to it so far.I thought since this is going to be a buildup with pics on #18 it should have it's own thread...Thank you Dennis for your knowleadge and expertise ..

Post(1)

Here is the first of the pictures on Marks car, Arthur took the motor and transmission out today, we will put his old engine on a engine stand next to the new short block, we will transfer all the bolt ons to the new block ac ps motor mounts etc. I am having his Valve covers powder coated along with the front cover, I will have the heads checked I will show how these engines are set up and install the heads and timing chains, so this will be a nice tech article on a short block upgrade.

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Well, here is the start of the buildup for Marks Car, as you can see below we removed his old engine, installed it on an engine stand. Here is some back ground on Marks car, he brought the car here for an install he drove the car for over seven months both on the street as well as the track the car ran perfect, then for what ever reason, the car overheated badly on two separate occasions, the last time he lost a head gasket, he took the car in and had both head gaskets replaced.

When Mark was working with the dealer they suggested he trade cars to a DTR, with the investment he already had, he stayed in the car, the day after picking the car up he went to the drag strip and the car developed a miss, he took the car back to the dealer and they replaced a plug, the next day he lost the motor on the way home.

Mark bought his kit form me and had the car tuned here eight months prior to the engine blowing up, the damage to his old engine is the worst I have ever seen, I honestly feel car ran extremely lean and hot, four pistons were damaged on one side and two on the other, he also broke two rods. Now this was not a tuning issue, if the tune was off this much he would have blown the car up way before he did, so either the heads were issue or while the car was there he lost the flash on the ECM, I have no idea till I get the new motor in the car, I can try and verify the tune in the EEC, I will also send the Mezirie pump to be checked as well as the Cobra fuel pumps, regardless he will have a monster when he is done, and I know he appreciates all that the club has done for him as well as I do.


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We received Marks new crate motor from Ron at fox lake, we unwrapped it and checked it over, as usual its immaculate.

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Now on these new Aluminum block they are completely bare so you have to take the dowels out of the rear of the motor for the rear oil seal cap and the centering dowels for the transmission as well as the two dowels for the front timing cover. You can see the eight bolt steel crank here.

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So we installed those dowels and the new rear oil seal and cover you use RTV to seal this to the rear block.

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Once we have the engine on the stand we looked it over and took some shots of the Diamond racing pistons manly rods and ARP rod bolts.

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Ford Motorsport oil pumps are on Back order so we can not install the oil pump with the billet oil pump gears or timing chain assemblies, but we can bolt The heads on with the new ARP head studs after the heads come back from Dover cylinder head, we are having a good valve job and have them check every thing.

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Then I will show step by step how the pump and billet gears are installed along with the timing chain and guides.

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[SergntMac]

Awesome, Mark, outstanding build! I love what Fox Lake has done for you. Thank you too, Dennis, for being his wrench on this project.

Thanks again, for the explanation of why/how your stock block failed, those pics of the OEM piston tops tell the whole detonation story. Every one of the pistons I could see from here, were damaged, coming apart at the crown. When you can see the top ring, it's over.

It occurs to me that maybe someone messed with your tune? Did the dealership reflash your EEC? Sorry, I don't mean to armchair quarterback, here, I'm sure you and Dennis know what went south. But, IMHO, that kind of piston damage would not come from any SCT tune no matter how aggressive. That's more like the damage that would follow a dealership's messing around with your EEC program, or, you accidently bought a tankful of 87 octane without knowing it. Okay, no more speculation, but thanks for the peek.

Nonetheless, I love your new Diamond pistons, looks like about a 10cc dish there, so, I have to ask...What do you estimate your final compression to dial in at? I can't tell you how much fun I've been having with my 9:1 compression, once I got it all tuned right. 12.66 on street tires and street tune, and with 200#s of crap in the trunk. You have some great days (and times) ahead, Mark, congrats!

You are going to have one rocking Marauder when she's all back together, Mark. You won't be doing burnouts, more like "fly-bys." Congrats, please keep us up to date?

[04funmerc]

Hey Man, Can't wait tillit's all together. Hope It ROCK'S TILL DAWN! :D :D

[MarauderMark]

Thank you for all your help Sarge.
Yes it does seem that when i had my heads done and was picking up the car after having the head gaskets done that they(will insert name soon) were persistant in trying to put me in a new dtr and telling me that i should take it easy since my car is supercharged "a stock block can only take so much" is what the service manager told me..as soon i we get back the reading that were on my ecc and it says that they reflashed it back to stock then i will decide what course of action..Since day one of my purchase of this car i have NEVER put anything less than 94 octane in her , well maybe 93 but that was because they didn't have 94 and allways sunoco..
12.66? i don't know i was hitten 12.1 i'm hoping for 11's
Again Thank you everyone!!

[maraudernkc]

Mark, It looks like your well on your way to flying down the highway very soon.

What will your new compression be?


Thank you for all your help Sarge.
Yes it does seem that when i had my heads done and was picking up the car after having the head gaskets done that they(will insert name soon) were persistant in trying to put me in a new dtr and telling me that i should take it easy since my car is supercharged "a stock block can only take so much" is what the service manager told me..as soon i we get back the reading that were on my ecc and it says that they reflashed it back to stock then i will decide what course of action..Since day one of my purchase of this car i have NEVER put anything less than 94 octane in her , well maybe 93 but that was because they didn't have 94 and allways sunoco..
12.66? i don't know i was hitten 12.1 i'm hoping for 11's
Again Thank you everyone!!

[Tom Doan]

Thank you for all your help Sarge.
Yes it does seem that when i had my heads done and was picking up the car after having the head gaskets done that they(will insert name soon) were persistant in trying to put me in a new dtr and telling me that i should take it easy since my car is supercharged "a stock block can only take so much" is what the service manager told me..as soon i we get back the reading that were on my ecc and it says that they reflashed it back to stock then i will decide what course of action..Since day one of my purchase of this car i have NEVER put anything less than 94 octane in her , well maybe 93 but that was because they didn't have 94 and allways sunoco..
12.66? i don't know i was hitten 12.1 i'm hoping for 11's
Again Thank you everyone!!
No one will know the truth,I will tell you my horrer story later, Mark knows some of it,every time I turn my car over to some one for work I think they just can't stop and go out for a joy ride because these cars are too cool when done up, I have had a blown trans and a blown ring and pinion and is one reason I had DR set my WOT RPM to 5000 max, Since I don't drag race I don't need the extra RPM. Tom

[Dennis Reinhart]

Here are the pictures of the timing chains you will see that each cam gear has a dot on it, each chain has a dark link this aligns with the dot on the crank and the dot on the cam gears.

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Here are good shts of both right and left tentioners

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Next install the crank sensor its marked so you do not install it back wards

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Here is the complete set up, I will post timing cover and valve cover tomorrow.

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[Butch]

Looking good Dennis....

I got me a good look at another MM engine (Marauderman) being built from the bottom-up this past week.

Looks just like the one you are doing for Mark....I haven't seen a lot of details on Mark's new motor (may have just missed the details in all of the posts here), so I can't say much for it, but the one that Marauderman is having done is going to be a STRONG one. Hope Mark is getting the same "treatment" that Marauderman is getting! He can't wait to hear it crank up, and I bet Mark can't wait for his either.

Seems we found us a really good shop locally here, for those of us that can't make the trip to FL.

Good luck to you Mark! Make sure you guys keep the updates coming!

[Dennis Reinhart]

Here is the front cover on and the passenger valve cover installed

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Here is a good shot of the rear engine colling kit installed

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[DEFYANT]

Looking damm good!!!! Mark, this is a blessing in disguise!!

[Kelly]

Really a sweet setup Dennis, Iam sure Mark will feel like a proud new dad when she roars to life. What kind of a break-in is required on a beast like that?

[SergntMac]

What kind of a break-in is required on a beast like that?About as long as it takes to start the engine and put it in gear...

[Marauderman]

About as long as it takes to start the engine and put it in gear...
Dang--your humor is so funny--can't stand it!!!!!Actually,, that is gonna be my problem--not doing what you said---like the song says."hold on . I'm coming"..---it will be there in due time--I'm gonna do a 500 easy ---re-tune and another 500 and then----"Dontevin" ask...:lol:--

[Dennis Reinhart]

Well the motor is done and it looks awsome I called Vortech and the S Trim to T trim is on the way back check out those awsome plug covers Mark had made.

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[BruteForce]

She's lookin' mighty purty. :up:

[SergntMac]

Outstanding! Powercoating isn't my thing, but this looks sweet. Coil covers are superb, and the godshead nut plugs are awesome. Bravo!

[huot5]

That....is an awesome testament to DR's knowledge of MM's and mechanical know-how. :bows:

Great job.

[BigMerc]

I should have put a add on that he couldn't use that color any more after my motor. looks great but I wanted the only one :(

[FLMARAUDER]

Dennis,

Is this a stroker motor, if not why? Also, what would a motor like the one you are building produce if stroked, n/a, with high streetable compression, maybe 10.5 to one. What would it cost.

I really enjoy reading everything you submit but this motor thread is the best, most informative ever!

Thanks

[Dennis Reinhart]

Dennis,

Is this a stroker motor, if not why? Also, what would a motor like the one you are building produce if stroked, n/a, with high streetable compression, maybe 10.5 to one. What would it cost.

I really enjoy reading everything you submit but this motor thread is the best, most informative ever!

ThanksIf you want to make a lot of safe RWHP I never install 10/1 pistons on a super charged motor because you will have to either rape the timing, or run a lower boost level or nothing but race gas, so normally you drop the compression to 8 1/2 or 9 to one then what you do is turn the boost up to compensate for the loss of RWHP do to the compresion loss look at the 03 Cobra motor, now I am not a big fan of stoker motors or big cams, yes you you can make a lot of power with cams but the idle quality and driveabliaty suffer, so I stay with a bullit proof short block fully ported and pollished heads, and a mild set of cams and then turn the Boost up, I did a 03 Cobra motor in a Marauder it made 567 RWHP on 93 octane, so here are the pictures I took this morning and Marks love has a new Heart.

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[MarauderMark]

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What a work of art :up: When i was away this weekend a little birdy told me to check this thread and this was all i could think about. :banana: :bounce: :cuke: .Oh what a relief.. :D

[merc]

Looking very nice Old man.

When we let the marauder ring, we will let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day with all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, we will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "Turned that key at last! Turned that key at last! thank God Almighty, I turned that key at last!"

:banana: Martin Marauder King

[MarauderMark]

Looking very nice Old man.

When we let the marauder ring, we will let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day with all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, we will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "Turned that key at last! Turned that key at last! thank God Almighty, I turned that key at last!"

:banana: Martin Marauder King


Aaaaaaaamen my brutha!! :bows:

[Bradley G]

Congradulations Mark!
It was a bitter sweet event, losing your ride, like that.It was cool ; the show of support from the members.
Dennis has you looking real nice now!
Have fun pal and please be careful !
You have one wicked Marauder there pal!~:bows:

[DEFYANT]

Looks damm good Mark! I cant wait to see this car!! Should be done real soon now!!

[Dennis Reinhart]

Here is a update on Marks car, we installed twin focus fuel pumps and I put the car back on the Dyno Monday, the car made 469 RWHP and 425 FPT and ran out of injector at 5600 RPM so I have ordered a set of 60 pound injectors they will be here Friday and I am going to install the SCT B2400 Maf, this will allow the car the car to go past this 469 # easy

[MarauderMark]

Here is a update on Marks car, we installed twin focus fuel pumps and I put the car back on the Dyno Monday, the car made 469 RWHP and 425 FPT and ran out of injector at 5600 RPM so I have ordered a set of 60 pound injectors they will be here Friday and I am going to install the SCT B2400 Maf, this will allow the car the car to go past this 469 # easy

Thanks Again Dennis will call ya tomorrow to see where we're at..:up:

[Dennis Reinhart]

Thanks Again Dennis will call ya tomorrow to see where we're at..:up:Well lets not wait till tomorrow the car now has 60 pound injectors and two new Focus fuel pumps and goes back on the Dyno, the spoiler will be installed Thursday and the alarm system and she is done

[Eric91Z]

Dennis,

With the setup that is now on the car, what do you think the peak horsepower potential is? And what do you think the max "safe" horsepower will come in at? Will it be a nice smooth and wide torque curve?

[MarauderMark]

Dennis,

With the setup that is now on the car, what do you think the peak horsepower potential is? And what do you think the max "safe" horsepower will come in at? Will it be a nice smooth and wide torque curve?
Good question:up:
Good to hear from ya Eric..been a while.hope everything is good with ya.. :D .

[Dennis Reinhart]

Marks car will make a safe 480 + RWHP on 93 octane he could make more if he lowered the pully size and went to a 8 rib setup.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Well Marks baby is almost done it made 480 RWHP I am going to put it back on the dyno tomorrow and massage it a bit more in the mean time we added the rear spoiler so I thought I would post the pictures. Tuesday it goes in for the alarm with window modules.

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[Kelly]

Well Marks baby is almost done it made 480 RWHP I am going to put it back on the dyno tomorrow and massage it a bit more in the mean time we added the rear spoiler so I thought I would post the pictures. Tuesday it goes in for the alarm with window modules.

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A rear spoiler, now why havn't I done that yet. looks good Dennis

[MarauderMark]

I'll be there monday (22nd) to pick er up.. :D

[DEFYANT]

I'll be there monday (22nd) to pick er up.. :D
Yo Mark, thats one badazz ride! You have a safe trip there and back now ya hear?

[Dennis Reinhart]

Well here are the finale pictures. Mark will be here tomorrow to pick her up, the car is a monster. I have installed new Nittos and we have a good tune on it till the motor gets some miles on it I want to thank the club for helping with this I installed the bulldog water alarm, it works great it self tests with key on buzzer and light turns orange for five seconds the goes off if you loose power to the pump it turns red, along with this we added new gauges it all looks awesome. I will post more later this week.

Click on the picture for a great slide show


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[MarauderMark]

Welp i got home today at 6:30 am , made it in the nick of time(allmost slept while the car drove) :sleepy: ..The drive home was great ..everyone was messing with me (at least those that i wanted to) a gto , a 300c , a bemmer , but i couldn't get into it as they'll have to wait 3k miles then bring it!:up: The car ran Great but there are a few issues that need to be addressed as these are only minor..Dennis you built a beast , and again Thanks to this site and those who helped me ...will post more pics , videos as soon as i get more sleep.. :sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy:

Ha ha , Great sig there Defyant..:2thumbs: :D


On the way home passing threw balt i ran across a beautiful DTR with the tag that said "Theo" something as i was to tired to slow down or do much of anything but get my a$$ to bed.was wondering who it was and say hi..

[stevengerard]

Wow, way cool, this should be a ball to drive great job Dennis and congrats Mark

[Haggis]

Welp i got home today at 6:30 am , made it in the nick of time(allmost slept while the car drove) :sleepy: ..The drive home was great ..everyone was messing with me (at least those that i wanted to) a gto , a 300c , a bemmer , but i couldn't get into it as they'll have to wait 3k miles then bring it!:up: The car ran Great but there are a few issues that need to be addressed as these are only minor..Dennis you built a beast , and again Thanks to this site and those who helped me ...will post more pics , videos as soon as i get more sleep.. :sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy:

Ha ha , Great sig there Defyant..:2thumbs: :D


On the way home passing threw balt i ran across a beautiful DTR with the tag that said "Theo" something as i was to tired to slow down or do much of anything but get my a$$ to bed.was wondering who it was and say hi..
Congrats Mark on the return of your baby. I can't wait to see her at the next meet. Oh yea I want a ride... :burnout:

[Bluerauder]

Welp i got home today at 6:30 am , made it in the nick of time.
Mark, Congratulations on finally bringing your baby back home after a much too long absence. :congrats: You were passing through my area between 4:00 and 4:30 AM -- good thing you didn't bang on my door at that ungodly hour as I was still recovering from MV III. J/K :rolleyes:

Hope to see the "new & improved" MarauderMark at the September meet in White Marsh. :D

[klmore]

Mark, Congratulations on finally bringing your baby back home after a much too long absence. :congrats: :D
Ditto, enjoy your car Mark.:)

[DEFYANT]

Ha ha , Great sig there Defyant..:2thumbs: :D


Mark I am glad the trip went good. You should be half way to completely broke-in.

'bout that sig... All in good fun buddy.;) Lemme know when your ready to take it back.

[Eric91Z]

Mark,

Congrats on getting the car back home safe and sound. Can't wait to hear the reports on how she runs after the break in period.

[Bluerauder]

'bout that sig... All in good fun buddy.;) Lemme know when your ready to take it back.
I wondered how long it would take for him to notice .... Looks like Mark is speed reading the signatures 'cause he picked that one up in under 12.65 seconds. :rofl:

[DEFYANT]

Maybe a CAM meet at a track to put his new beast through it's paces????

Mark, proceed at Dennis' direction!

What do you think?

[MarauderMark]

Thank you everyone you guys are to kind..i was thinking about you Blue as i was passing the exit but it didn't last to long as i was half blind with sleep(insert face slapping here) Dennis said not to lay into it until 40k (3000 mile oil change)maybe i'll wait till 5k more are on it to be sure..i still gotta get some more things from dennis and then i'll be at 100%..will post more later..again thank you everyone..

[Zack]

Thank you everyone you guys are to kind..i was thinking about you Blue as i was passing the exit but it didn't last to long as i was half blind with sleep(insert face slapping here) Dennis said not to lay into it until 40k (3000 mile oil change)maybe i'll wait till 5k more are on it to be sure..i still gotta get some more things from dennis and then i'll be at 100%..will post more later..again thank you everyone..

Beat the hell out of it, thats what it was built for. :beer:

[MarauderMark]

Beat the hell out of it, thats what it was built for. :beer:
After the 5000 miles ..You damn skippy!!:burn:


Hows about a pic before i leave..
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[DEFYANT]

How sweet. You two could be father and son. muwahahahahahahaha