Dyno Day at RPM (aka Carb Connection)? [Archive]

BruteForce

06-25-2005, 08:17 AM

Dave (DirtyDog) and I went to visit the Racing Performance Motorsports (RPM) facility in Kirkland yesterday. Nice clean shop. They had a beautiful Corvette up on the dyno while we were there. We talked with Alex Racz about dyno testing (& tuning) our Marauders. Normal fee for a dyno test (no tuning) is $145. We can get a group rate of $75 per for 5 or more vehicles.

How about getting together for a group dyno day maybe Saturday after next? That would be July 9th.

PS. The fee does not cover any tuning. Since tuning is a more involved process, you'll need to schedule a session with them.

DirtyDog

06-25-2005, 11:05 AM

Blue03

06-26-2005, 11:46 PM

I'd like to participate in a group dyno day ... but have another commitment on the 9th. Let me know if another date is contemplated. Thanks

BruteForce

06-27-2005, 07:17 AM

Turns out the 9th won't work for me either. Niece & nephew birthday celebration that day. Suggestions?

DirtyDog

06-27-2005, 05:58 PM

Lets pick another day. Suggestions?

Blue03

06-27-2005, 11:13 PM

How does July 16 look? I'm game for a $75 roll.

BruteForce

06-27-2005, 11:31 PM

How does July 16 look? I'm game for a $75 roll.

Far as I can tell right now, that works for me.

DirtyDog

06-28-2005, 07:04 PM

How does July 16 look? I'm game for a $75 roll.

Looks good for me also. :up: :burn: :flag:

Blue03

06-28-2005, 11:10 PM

Is THIS (http://www.carbconn.com) the place???

BruteForce

06-28-2005, 11:19 PM

Is THIS (http://www.carbconn.com) the place???

yep. dat's da one.

teamrope

06-30-2005, 09:43 PM

yep. dat's da one.

I might be able to do this. 16th would work better for me too. :)

DirtyDog

07-01-2005, 06:07 PM

I might be able to do this. 16th would work better for me too. :)
Well, that's four. You know it does not have to be a Marauder. You can bring any kind of car. Front wheel drive cars have to go last. :up:

BruteForce

07-01-2005, 07:45 PM

I might be able to do this. 16th would work better for me too. :)

If you bring both, we've made our quota for the reduced rate. :D

Blue03

07-01-2005, 10:08 PM

Were at 4...Any body else? I suppose I could bring my 95 GM HPP for grins (its dark blue of course) but I'd have trouble driving both down to Kirkland at the same time. Anybody else curious about their stats? Any other stock ones to see how close they are to my Blue? Heard ;) the Blues came with a special tune over the others!!! :rolleyes: Bet the combined total curves of my Blues will take all Western Washington comers :eek: (have I gone too far?)

DirtyDog

07-06-2005, 08:05 PM

Bumpity bump. We only need one more.
I'm going if I have to go by myself and be the fastest Marauder in Washington State.
Come on and sign up.

Blue03

07-06-2005, 09:05 PM

Bumpity bump. We only need one more.
I'm going if I have to go by myself and be the fastest Marauder in Washington State.
Come on and sign up.

Dave I assume that since you and BruteForce visited the dyno guys that one of you are going to want to make the arrangements. Do the dyno guys still have room on the 16th? Do you think they would they take 4 of us at the discount? Maybe we should post a link on the West Coast forum and PM the others that have shown up for the meets in the past. Some may not have seen this ECM forum. Let me know if I can help. I'll still hold the 16th open.
Cheers Bruce

BruteForce

07-06-2005, 11:15 PM

We need 5 to get the discount. We'd need to call them and make the arrangements 6/11 at the latest (my guess).

teamrope

07-07-2005, 07:10 PM

If you don't get the 5th, I'll have to drop out. Planned on getting this done by Lidio durring MMville III (Along with a little bit of "tweeking" by the master himself). No scence spending the $$$ twice.

DirtyDog

07-07-2005, 07:14 PM

Yes, they said if they knew the first of the week they could handle it on Saturday.
Maybe we could split the fifth car fee and have them do something else for us for the time they would save.

Blue03

07-07-2005, 11:17 PM

Yes, they said if they knew the first of the week they could handle it on Saturday.
Maybe we could split the fifth car fee and have them do something else for us for the time they would save.

I'm ok with that!

01 Interceptor

07-08-2005, 01:39 PM

Well, if you guys all want to help a "poor Crown Vic owner" by splitting the 5th fee...I suppose I could get a baseline before I start my mods. ;) :D

BruteForce

07-08-2005, 02:32 PM

Well, if you guys all want to help a "poor Crown Vic owner" by splitting the 5th fee...I suppose I could get a baseline before I start my mods. ;) :D

Sure... just sign over the title on that Beemer and we're all set. :D

Seriously, if you'd like I could front you the fee and you can pay me back whenever.

01 Interceptor

07-08-2005, 04:32 PM

The Beemer sits because it needs brakes lol. Been driving the CVPI a lot lately. I do appreciate the offer, but my remark while somewhat true, was in jest. I really wouldn't benefit from doing a dyno right now.

DirtyDog

07-09-2005, 10:42 PM

Ryan said today at the Harris Ford Show & Shine he would be number five for the Dyno.

By the way we did good at the Show, 01 Interceptor got third place in the 1991-2005 Ford Class, I got second place same class and I won Most Likely to Get a Ticket. We both got door prices also. Ryan left early to go to work.

BruteForce

07-10-2005, 08:35 AM

I will call RPM Monday morning and reserve our session for Saturday July 16. Once they have conmfirmed, I will post the scheduled time and street address.

01 Interceptor

07-11-2005, 12:46 AM

Anybody interested in doing the Pony Trails drive with the Mustangs? I was invited by a Saleen owner, and I know a guy who's attending. We'll get to tour the LeMay Collection for 10 bucks. I think he said we're going to drive to Mt. Rainer as well. Their site says that the route is TBD. Be at Bellevue Community College about 8:15am on Friday.

Info/flayer here: http://www.mustangsnorthwest.com/roundup/2005RoundupFlyer.pdf

BruteForce

07-11-2005, 09:03 AM

Called this morning (7/11) and found out RPM is closed Mondays. Left a vm message for Alex about our intentions for Saturday (4 MM & 1 CV for dyno run). If I don't hear back from him/them early Tuesday, I will call again.

DirtyDog

07-11-2005, 02:04 PM

BruteForce

07-12-2005, 10:01 AM

Saturday 16th won't work. They already have others scheduled for that day. I had them pencil us in for Saturday the 23rd. I need to confirm with them either way by this Friday at the latest. Please post if you will be participating. I'll start the confirm list:

1. BruteForce (1 MM)

01 Interceptor

07-12-2005, 11:48 AM

Saturday (23rd) will not work for Ryan, and I can't come watch either unless it is early. We are scheduled to be in the White Center Parade, and we must line up by 1pm.

BruteForce

07-12-2005, 12:39 PM

That reduces our earlier count to 4. :alone: Looks like it ain't gonna happen.

Saturday (23rd) will not work for Ryan, and I can't come watch either unless it is early. We are scheduled to be in the White Center Parade, and we must line up by 1pm.

01 Interceptor

07-12-2005, 02:32 PM

Well, if it is early Ryan can go first, and we can jet out by noon. I want this to work because I don't want you all ponying up $145 if you can pay $75.

BruteForce

07-12-2005, 02:51 PM

Well, if it is early Ryan can go first, and we can jet out by noon. I want this to work because I don't want you all ponying up $145 if you can pay $75.

That might work if everyone else is still good for that date. How about Ryan jumping in and makin' some noise on his own behalf. :)

01 Interceptor

07-12-2005, 05:36 PM

He doesn't get on the internet as much as we do! ;)

Blue03

07-12-2005, 08:22 PM

I'm still in on the 23rd and early is ok too!

DirtyDog

07-12-2005, 08:30 PM

Put me down.

teamrope

07-12-2005, 09:01 PM

We've got a prior comitment that weekend. :(

Mard

07-12-2005, 10:18 PM

Do they do any tuning for $75.00 or is it just a couple runs for numbers? I may be interested just to get some numbers prior to the Kooks instl. Is 7-23 still the day you're planning on?

BruteForce

07-12-2005, 10:23 PM

Do they do any tuning for $75.00 or is it just a couple runs for numbers? I may be interested just to get some numbers prior to the Kooks instl. Is 7-23 still the day you're planning on?

As I understand it, the fee will get you one dyno run.

tentative list
Blue03
DirtyDog
BruteForce
Mard

Need at least one more.

01 Interceptor

07-12-2005, 11:35 PM

According to their site, it's up to 6 runs to establish a baseline.

BruteForce

07-13-2005, 07:41 AM

According to their site, it's up to 6 runs to establish a baseline.

Then that's likely correct.

BruteForce

07-14-2005, 01:41 PM

As I understand it, the fee will get you one dyno run.

tentative list
Blue03
DirtyDog
BruteForce
Mard

Need at least one more.

Last call. If no one else chimes in I will call Friday and let them know we will NOT be coming. :cry:

DirtyDog

07-14-2005, 05:18 PM

Come on someone, get your next door neighbor to bring their car, it does not have to be a Marauder. There may be door prizes and food.

Blue03

07-14-2005, 10:30 PM

Come on someone, get your next door neighbor to bring their car, it does not have to be a Marauder. There may be door prizes and food.

Here's a thought! Might not be a good one... but... I'd sure like to get a stock base line before heading out (without my Blue) to MVIII. I know mod resistance is futile and you never know what raffle or other goodies I might come home with... so maybe we tell the shop we'll take the 5 slots at 5x$75=$375 and spend next week trying to fill the 5th slot. If we don't fill it, we can split the $375 4 ways or $93.75 each (plus the Gov) or find some other way. At least we'll have it scheduled. Hey BF & DD sorry this is turning out to be a struggle but thanks anyway for working it! Hope we don't have to scrub it. I'd like to see how your MM's run with the mods you've made too! Please keep me posted! Cheers

BruteForce

07-15-2005, 07:09 AM

This works for me as I will be going ahead with a dyno (at any price :( ) irregardless of how many others there are.

Here's a thought! Might not be a good one... but... I'd sure like to get a stock base line before heading out (without my Blue) to MVIII. I know mod resistance is futile and you never know what raffle or other goodies I might come home with... so maybe we tell the shop we'll take the 5 slots at 5x$75=$375 and spend next week trying to fill the 5th slot. If we don't fill it, we can split the $375 4 ways or $93.75 each (plus the Gov) or find some other way. At least we'll have it scheduled. Hey BF & DD sorry this is turning out to be a struggle but thanks anyway for working it! Hope we don't have to scrub it. I'd like to see how your MM's run with the mods you've made too! Please keep me posted! Cheers

DirtyDog

07-15-2005, 08:45 AM

I'm in also.

Mard

07-15-2005, 11:46 AM

This works for me as I will be going ahead with a dyno (at any price :( ) irregardless of how many others there are.
I'm afraid it's probably a bad week for me to go. My birthdays next weekend and I may heading to the ocean, my Kooks are to arrive in a few days :D and I need to fork over cash to get them jet-coated plus my wifes car is getting new tires tomorrow :cry: $$$$$$$$$.

BruteForce

07-15-2005, 12:23 PM

If we push the dyno day out to July 30th, would more people be available to go? Just trying to accomodate everyone so we can all get 'r done.

Ryans PI

07-15-2005, 01:54 PM

If we push the dyno day out to July 30th, would more people be available to go? Just trying to accomodate everyone so we can all get 'r done.

Yes, I am finally here.

Jon and I will be gone for Colorado from July 26th-August 2nd.

I really want to do this dyno so I can see what is wrong with my fuel mileage.

BruteForce

07-15-2005, 02:20 PM

Does that mean you are in for the 23rd if we get you done early?

PS. PM sent. I need to hear from you (Ryan) by 4 PM as that's when I gotta call RPM to confirm for the 23rd.

Yes, I am finally here.

Jon and I will be gone for Colorado from July 26th-August 2nd.

I really want to do this dyno so I can see what is wrong with my fuel mileage.

Ryans PI

07-15-2005, 02:30 PM

Unfortunately, I don't think I can make the 23rd.

Sorry,

:(

BruteForce

07-15-2005, 02:34 PM

Blue03

07-15-2005, 11:39 PM

This is like herding cats. :rolleyes:

Dave & Bruce... should we go ahead and confirm for 23rd and just split the entire x5 fee 3 ways? We'll save a couple bucks apiece over the regular fee. We can just act dumb (not too much of stretch for me) Gee... they're supposed to be here. Maybe they got lost?

PS. I have postponed my call to RPM to cancel until Saturday morning. Should be enough time for Dave & Bruce to check in. Otherwise I will tell RPM to cancel for now.

Oh why not...I'll go with the 3 way split on the 5x route if needed... Maybe we can still add some others next week. The 30th is definitely out for me. Lets see...Whats Black and Blue and Black??....The three Marauderteers trying to set up a Group Dyno!!

DirtyDog

07-16-2005, 07:15 AM

I'm in and I'll see if I can find someone else to go.

SergntMac

07-16-2005, 08:26 AM

One pull won't tell you anything, and 75 bucks is a rip off for one pull. A base line needs at least three pulls to have any value. Hope you get your fifth member.

BruteForce

07-16-2005, 09:20 AM

We have a reservation for 5 or more vehicles for 9:30 AM July 23, 2005.

Spoke a bit with John (I think that was the name) and he noted that a "base-line dyno" will consist of 3-5 runs. If you want to make minor adjustments, you can do so between runs but they will not be doing any "major" tuning. I'm not sure if that means he will be able to tweak my A/F but I can hope. :D

I want to encourage all those that haven't spoken up to seriously consider getting in on this. How about 1 BAD 03 MM, de minimus, Wagonmaster, & mchunt (to mention a few)? We haven't heard from these cats yet. Maybe a friendly PM/email would alert them to the upcoming opportunity? Come on folks... spread the love. :cool4:

How about our Crown Vic brethren? Perhaps a couple of them want to get in on this?

ADDRESS:

13611 NE 125th PL
STE 240
Kirkland, WA 98034
425-820-1871

I will assume that us northenders will be meeting up to convoy, yes?

Mard

07-16-2005, 09:46 AM

I'm back on the fence. My wife stated she may be working next weekend so that would cancel any trip to the ocean. Also, If I nail down some OT at work this week (need to stop the bleeding this month$$$) I should be able to make it.

Thanks for planning this and patience.

Blue03

07-18-2005, 08:22 PM

I will assume that us northenders will be meeting up to convoy, yes?

I almost missed this...Sounds good! :up: ...Albertsons west of I-5 on 128th about 8:45 AM??

BruteForce

07-18-2005, 08:34 PM

I will assume that us northenders will be meeting up to convoy, yes?

I almost missed this...Sounds good! :up: ...Albertsons west of I-5 on 128th about 8:45 AM??

Sounds good. We can then hook up a little south of there with Dave. What say ye SoiledHound?

DirtyDog

07-18-2005, 08:44 PM

Yes, maybe we can get over there a little early and have some coffee and donuts.

Mard

07-18-2005, 09:49 PM

Yes, maybe we can get over there a little early and have some coffee and donuts.
Donuts? I'm sure there will be some police interceptors there.

BruteForce

07-23-2005, 08:02 AM

Getting ready to go out the door. Its okay to show up even if you haven't posted before. :D

Mard

07-23-2005, 11:57 AM

Go have some fun and let us know everyones results.

:depress: Wish I could have made it....but the wifes working, sitting at home with 3 kids and one's sick.

:) After the Kooks go on, hopefully within the next couple weeks I'll be looking to dyno.

BruteForce

07-23-2005, 03:13 PM

We had a great time! I will post the dyno sheets in a bit.

BruteForce

07-23-2005, 03:58 PM

BruteForce

07-23-2005, 04:00 PM

click da pic

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/thumbs/sm01.jpg (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7176&size=big&cat=500&page=1)

Mard

07-23-2005, 06:13 PM

Here's everyone together.

BruteForce: 303
DirtyDog: 301
Blue03: 241

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/thumbs/ecm01.jpg (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7175&size=big&cat=500&page=1)
That's great! Two n/a cars running over 300 horsepower. That puts you right up there at the top of the pack. Using Blue03's car as a baseline for the dyno, he's right in line with typical 20% hp lose to rear wheels....that would put you two up around 370-380 hp. Congratulations :banana: :banana: !

Did they do any a/f adjustments between runs?

BruteForce

07-23-2005, 06:32 PM

No adjustments made. Mine appeared to be right on while Dave's is running a little rich.

That's great! Two n/a cars running over 300 horsepower. That puts you right up there at the top of the pack. Using Blue03's car as a baseline for the dyno, he's right in line with typical 20% hp lose to rear wheels....that would put you two up around 370-380 hp. Congratulations :banana: :banana: !

Did they do any a/f adjustments between runs?

teamrope

07-23-2005, 07:51 PM

Nice numbers guys. Linda's 04 was 263 before the tune, and dropped to 258 after, but picked up a lot more ponys in the lower band.
I will be having Lidio dyno mine and tweaking the tune a little bit at the dream cruize. :)

BruteForce

07-24-2005, 09:08 AM

Hey Dave! Where's the pics? :D

DirtyDog

07-24-2005, 09:47 AM

Hey Dave! Where's the pics? :D
This is all I got. I forgot after we got started.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/davek206/TEMPPICTURES028.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/davek206/TEMPPICTURES027.jpg