XCal2 Reviewed

[QWK SVT]

As soon as I read about the Xcalibrator2, I knew I had to have one. But it took a while to finally come out... A long while... Months, that felt like years.

The XCalibrator2 is you typical handheld tuner, but instead of just loading a tune, it also allows end user adjustment (well, this capability isn't enabled yet - a firmware update is due out soon) and high speed data logging capability (this was the clincher).

I have Lidio's tune installed, now and have played around abit ;) Everything everyone else has said is absolutely true! The car feels MUCH stronger. Just the transmission operation would be worth it, but more power is a good thing, too :D No more clunkiness, as the transmission tries to figure out whihc gear to go in, only to flip back down a gear. Upshifts are a fair bit firmer, at WOT.

Put to the test, it showed a healthy gain. I performed a before / after test, to validate the increases that this kit provides. I used a Beltronics VectorFX2, for the purposes of these tests. It should be noted, my test procedure will not elicit the car's best results possible. The plan is to remove as many variables as possible and make the tests as apples-apples, to indentify the net change, caused by the tune.

All done on the same day, with virtually same conditions - it was 88* at time of testing (both times)
Full tank of gas, to remove any weight differences
Drive a set route (~10 miles) to bring the car up to full operating temperature visit private track
Average of (minimum) four 0-60mph runs, alternating direction (consistent launch technique, launch off idle)
Go home and install the tune and allow for a short break
Drive same set route as before, bringing the car back to full temp, again visit private track
Again, average of (minimum) four 0-60mph runs, alternating direction (same launch technique as before)
End results:
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2.38












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1.55












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4.10












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7.42












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10.15












</TD></TR><TR><TD width=78>XCal2 Average</TD><TD noWrap borderColor=#cccccc width=66>
2.34












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1.44












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3.80












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6.73












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9.84












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Not too shabby, huh! :D <= This has been my face, ever since ;)

Hopefully, there will be decent weather tomorrow night, and I'll play around with the datalogging capabilities...

[Rkammer]

As soon as I read about the Xcalibrator2, I knew I had to have one. But it took a while to finally come out... A long while... Months, that felt like years.

The XCalibrator2 is you typical handheld tuner, but instead of just loading a tune, it also allows end user adjustment (well, this capability isn't enabled yet - a firmware update is due out soon) and high speed data logging capability (this was the clincher).

I have Lidio's tune installed, now and have played around abit ;) Everything everyone else has said is absolutely true! The car feels MUCH stronger. Just the transmission operation would be worth it, but more power is a good thing, too :D No more clunkiness, as the transmission tries to figure out whihc gear to go in, only to flip back down a gear. Upshifts are a fair bit firmer, at WOT.

Put to the test, it showed a healthy gain. I performed a before / after test, to validate the increases that this kit provides. I used a Beltronics VectorFX2, for the purposes of these tests. It should be noted, my test procedure will not elicit the car's best results possible. The plan is to remove as many variables as possible and make the tests as apples-apples, to indentify the net change, caused by the tune.

All done on the same day, with virtually same conditions - it was 88* at time of testing (both times)
Full tank of gas, to remove any weight differences
Drive a set route (~10 miles) to bring the car up to full operating temperature visit private track
Average of (minimum) four 0-60mph runs, alternating direction (consistent launch technique, launch off idle)
Go home and install the tune and allow for a short break
Drive same set route as before, bringing the car back to full temp, again visit private track
Again, average of (minimum) four 0-60mph runs, alternating direction (same launch technique as before)
End results:
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2.38















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1.55















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4.10















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7.42















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10.15















</TD></TR><TR><TD width=78>XCal2 Average</TD><TD noWrap borderColor=#cccccc width=66>
2.34















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1.44















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3.80















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6.73















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9.84















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0.11















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0.30















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0.69















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0.31















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Not too shabby, huh! :D <= This has been my face, ever since ;)

Hopefully, there will be decent weather tomorrow night, and I'll play around with the datalogging capabilities...
Thanks for the test data. The 1/8th mile times is a bit confusing, though. The improvement better than doubles from 0-20 to 0-40 and then from 0-40 to 0-60. Then from 0-60 to the 1/8th mile it seems to lose time as the 1/8th mile speed is probably in the 70-75MPH range. So, the 0-60 MPH time improved by .69 sec and the 0-70+ MPH time only improved .31 sec. Did the car seem to lay down after 60 MPH?

[MENINBLK]

...it also allows end user adjustment (well, this capability isn't enabled yet - a firmware update is due out soon)...

Check on the SCTFlash site.
v1.3 Firmware has been posted already.

[shakes_26]

I think the 60-70 times lack of improvement is due to the fact the car in stock trim is doing well, since its in the powerband of the motor and the car is rolling already.

-Marc

[gpfarrell]

Thank you!

That's exactly what I was looking for, and you did a great job explaining your purposes and methodology.

3-7/10ths of a second is meaningful... with your approach I'd say that's far beyond any statistical error and confirms fairly impressive gains from a little black box.

Me thinks me might needum one of them!

[PAPAJOHN]

From a daily driver viewpoint ---- not the WOT results.

I just installed the Xcal2 - Reinhart program --- And I am very pleased with the WOT performance, but even more so with standard daily driving.
Prior to implementation, at slower speeds, the car seem to labor, ( sluggish) unless you pressed the petal enough to downshift --- then you got more then you really wanted.
After installing, I am getting good accelleration at any speed, without forceing a downshift. Much more responsive!

[Sully008]

I have Lidio's tune installed, now and have played around abit ;) Everything everyone else has said is absolutely true! The car feels MUCH stronger. Just the transmission operation would be worth it, but more power is a good thing, too :D No more clunkiness, as the transmission tries to figure out whihc gear to go in, only to flip back down a gear. Upshifts are a fair bit firmer, at WOT.

Not too shabby, huh! :D <= This has been my face, ever since ;)

Hopefully, there will be decent weather tomorrow night, and I'll play around with the datalogging capabilities...


Didn't I tell you that it was worth it? :D Just out of curiosity, did you get a tune for 91 or 93 octane?

[Breadfan]

From a daily driver viewpoint ---- not the WOT results.

I just installed the Xcal2 - Reinhart program --- And I am very pleased with the WOT performance, but even more so with standard daily driving.
Prior to implementation, at slower speeds, the car seem to labor, ( sluggish) unless you pressed the petal enough to downshift --- then you got more then you really wanted.
After installing, I am getting good accelleration at any speed, without forceing a downshift. Much more responsive!
Awesome, that's my biggest complaint about this car is the around town driving, it's sluggish, slow to downshift, and has a tendency to hunt gears. It feels weird and that gear hunting and occasional lugging can't be good - I don't know why Ford programmed it that way.

I'll be picking mine up as soon as I make it back home. I was gonna wait for my 4.10's but at this point I think even stock it's gonna make a big difference in how the car drives, I'll reflash when I get my gears. Even if I get my gears a few weeks after the Xcal2 I think it'll be worth getting the tune those few weeks before just from what I've read.

[PAPAJOHN]

Awesome, that's my biggest complaint about this car is the around town driving, it's sluggish, slow to downshift, and has a tendency to hunt gears. It feels weird and that gear hunting and occasional lugging can't be good - I don't know why Ford programmed it that way.

I'll be picking mine up as soon as I make it back home. I was gonna wait for my 4.10's but at this point I think even stock it's gonna make a big difference in how the car drives, I'll reflash when I get my gears. Even if I get my gears a few weeks after the Xcal2 I think it'll be worth getting the tune those few weeks before just from what I've read.
I'm considering gears also, but I want to see what I get from each mod. I added a K&N AirCharger, and drove it a couple of weeks -- and loved it. Now I added the Xcal2, and can feel that difference --- Then I can look forward to getting the gears, to see what that does for me.

[Rkammer]

I'm considering gears also, but I want to see what I get from each mod. I added a K&N AirCharger, and drove it a couple of weeks -- and loved it. Now I added the Xcal2, and can feel that difference --- Then I can look forward to getting the gears, to see what that does for me.PapaJohn, Looks like you and I are going down the same path as far as mods is conderned. My car also has the XCal2 with Dennis' program and I just installed the K&N cold air kit this morning. I fealt the most improvement with the XCal and some ilncreased throttle response with the K&N but mostly more sound when the throttle is punched. I've also done some tweaking on my own using the Extreme Tune software to change the lock-up points a little. My next step will also be gears and I'm still considering either the 3.90s or the 4.10s. Have you decided which gears you'll use and who will do the install? I live over near UCF so maybe we can consider the same installer if we can make a deal on the labor. Hope we can meet us some time, perhaps at the club meet in July. :)

[PAPAJOHN]

PapaJohn, Looks like you and I are going down the same path as far as mods is conderned. My car also has the XCal2 with Dennis' program and I just installed the K&N cold air kit this morning. I fealt the most improvement with the XCal and some ilncreased throttle response with the K&N but mostly more sound when the throttle is punched. I've also done some tweaking on my own using the Extreme Tune software to change the lock-up points a little. My next step will also be gears and I'm still considering either the 3.90s or the 4.10s. Have you decided which gears you'll use and who will do the install? I live over near UCF so maybe we can consider the same installer if we can make a deal on the labor. Hope we can meet us some time, perhaps at the club meet in July. :)
I sent you a PM

[Logan]

You should like... Post it in the Reviews section eh? :)

[1stMerc]

My tuner should be in this week. Just in time for the cooler weather. I can't wait.

[QWK SVT]

Thanks for the test data. The 1/8th mile times is a bit confusing, though. The improvement better than doubles from 0-20 to 0-40 and then from 0-40 to 0-60. Then from 0-60 to the 1/8th mile it seems to lose time as the 1/8th mile speed is probably in the 70-75MPH range. So, the 0-60 MPH time improved by .69 sec and the 0-70+ MPH time only improved .31 sec. Did the car seem to lay down after 60 MPH?No, the car isn't falling down. I agree with shakes_26 - my MM has the tune, and a JLT. As speeds increase, I would expect gains to decrease. I also don't think you can directly relate a 0-60 (speed and time) to an 1/8 mile (distance and time), other than if one goes down, the other will, too.

In the event it helps, my 330' times were 6.70 (pre) and 6.49 (post). Based on my experiences with this car at the track, I would anticipate that this drop would equate to about 4/10's, on the big end. When I next go to the track, I will be doing some with / without testing, to verify.



Thank you!

That's exactly what I was looking for, and you did a great job explaining your purposes and methodology.

3-7/10ths of a second is meaningful... with your approach I'd say that's far beyond any statistical error and confirms fairly impressive gains from a little black box.

Me thinks me might needum one of them!My approach is to remove variables, and only assess the impact of the change... I'd guess there are a few tenths in the full temp engine, and the hot and (somewhat) humid weather we have right now. Either way, the car is obviously quicker. Enough so that my other performance guage worked, as well... My g/f got in the car, shook her head and immediately asked, "What did you do, and how much did it cost?" :cool:



Didn't I tell you that it was worth it? :D Just out of curiosity, did you get a tune for 91 or 93 octane?You weren't kidding! The best part isn't just the increased WOT performance, but the daily driving improvement, too. It doesn't feel like the car has to "work" as hard to go around slower traffic, and the transmission always seems to be in the right gear - it's no longer confused, and constantly searching. That horrible spot when keeping it constant at around 50km (30mph), where it almost felt like it would upshift and downshift repeatly, is completely gone. The car is just more pleasurable to drive, in all instances :D

PS - I have three Sunoco's within two blocks. It's all Ultra94 for me, so the 93 octane tune was my best option. I also got the same tune, setup for 4.10's, as I see that a possibility, down the road (though I'd like to see how difficult 13's would be with stock gearing).




You should like... Post it in the Reviews section eh? :)Yes, I know :o I plan to, but was holding off, until I've played with all the options (like datalogging). I've put enough miles on to be able to speak to Lidio's tune (which I'm obviously impressed with) but haven't got to all the abilities of the Xcal2, as a device Can I "start" a review, and edit it later, or should I wait 'til I have all the detail together?

(holy crap that's a lot of replying for one message)

[QWK SVT]

Check on the SCTFlash site.
v1.3 Firmware has been posted already.
Actually, I've downloaded and installed the firmware upgrade - it doesn't enable the end user adjustments. To be honest, I'm not sure what the upgrade does. They're supposed to be beta testing firmware with the adjustments enabled, right now.

[Rkammer]

Actually, I've downloaded and installed the firmware upgrade - it doesn't enable the end user adjustments. To be honest, I'm not sure what the upgrade does. They're supposed to be beta testing firmware with the adjustments enabled, right now.
I've been doing end user adjustments for almost two weeks using the "Extreme Tune" software which I downloaded from the SCT site. Are you referring to the ability to make adjustments directly from the XCal2?

[QWK SVT]

I've finally played with the datalogging, a little. You need a standard USB cable, to connect a laptop to the Xcal2, which is then connected to the ODB port.

The software is easy to install... Just download Live Link off the SCT website (http://www.sctflash.com/downloads.php), and follow the prompts. I strapped down th lpatop to the passenger seat (seatbelt through the handle of the targus laptop bag).

I was ready (and anxious) to connect everything, and start playing around with it. This is where I encountered a problem...

The SCT Instruction Manual leaves a little to be desired - it's really just an 8.5x11 sheet, with a few details on it. :rolleyes: What it doesn't tell you, is that if the ignition is not in the ON position, error mesages will be recieved. Unfortunately, these error messages don't really help diagnose the problem, either.

After I figured that one out, it was smooth sailing. You are prompted to pick which variables you would like to capture. As I'm just playing around, I didn't pay too much attention to it, and selected the following:

Coolant Temp
Intake Air Temp
RPM
O2 Voltage Bank1 Front Sensor
Spark

With may equipment, I captured 20 datapoint, per second. It's pretty interesting to see what goes on - for example the IAT goes UP, while under heavy accelleration... I would have thought it would go DOWN, with the air rushing past so quickly.

I need to figure out what all the variables are that can be logged, and what they mean to me. I've got a lot more playing to do, but so far it's been very easy to use, and fun to play with.

I likey-likey! :up:

[Rkammer]

I've finally played with the datalogging, a little. You need a standard USB cable, to connect a laptop to the Xcal2, which is then connected to the ODB port.

The software is easy to install... Just download Live Link off the SCT website (http://www.sctflash.com/downloads.php), and follow the prompts. I strapped down th lpatop to the passenger seat (seatbelt through the handle of the targus laptop bag).

I was ready (and anxious) to connect everything, and start playing around with it. This is where I encountered a problem...

The SCT Instruction Manual leaves a little to be desired - it's really just an 8.5x11 sheet, with a few details on it. :rolleyes: What it doesn't tell you, is that if the ignition is not in the ON position, error mesages will be recieved. Unfortunately, these error messages don't really help diagnose the problem, either.

After I figured that one out, it was smooth sailing. You are prompted to pick which variables you would like to capture. As I'm just playing around, I didn't pay too much attention to it, and selected the following:

Coolant Temp
Intake Air Temp
RPM
O2 Voltage Bank1 Front Sensor
Spark
With may equipment, I captured 20 datapoint, per second. It's pretty interesting to see what goes on - for example the IAT goes UP, while under heavy accelleration... I would have thought it would go DOWN, with the air rushing past so quickly.

I need to figure out what all the variables are that can be logged, and what they mean to me. I've got a lot more playing to do, but so far it's been very easy to use, and fun to play with.

I likey-likey! :up:
I've also been playing with my XCal2 with Dennis Reinhart tune for several weeks. I also had some issues with the data logging when the program wouldn't recognize my Processor ID at first but SCT and Dennis resolved that problem in short order. I'm looking forward to doing some data logging on 1/4 mile passes and have just been playing around on the street as you have. It's a very capable piece of equipment. Has anyone else used the downloaded "Extreme Tune" software to make any changes to their tunes? I've played with my shift points a bit but there are some software issues with the program which SCT is working with me on to resolve. On occasion, the changed tune (with my changes using Extreme Tune) will not properly flash the cars computer and has to be redone on the laptop and then reflashed. SCT is working on that one. Overall, I'm happy with the SCal2 so far.

[Sully008]

You weren't kidding! The best part isn't just the increased WOT performance, but the daily driving improvement, too. It doesn't feel like the car has to "work" as hard to go around slower traffic, and the transmission always seems to be in the right gear - it's no longer confused, and constantly searching. That horrible spot when keeping it constant at around 50km (30mph), where it almost felt like it would upshift and downshift repeatly, is completely gone. The car is just more pleasurable to drive, in all instances :D

PS - I have three Sunoco's within two blocks. It's all Ultra94 for me, so the 93 octane tune was my best option. I also got the same tune, setup for 4.10's, as I see that a possibility, down the road (though I'd like to see how difficult 13's would be with stock gearing).


You're lucky to have 94 close. All we have here in the 'Peg is 91. Lidio had to back some timing out to keep the tune safe. I have a feeling it's not quite as "potent" as the 93 tune. Oh well. That's why I ordered the 4.10s from Wes this last week. :D Keep us posted on your track adventures. You and I are on the same mod path. I'd take mine to the track 'cept ours is closed for repairs this year. :down:

[pantheroc]

Does anyone have a comparision of the Xcal2 to AutoTap w/Ford parameters as far as the monitoring/logging capabilities. I would like to either keep or sell my AutoTap depending on capabilities of the Xcal2.

[bigjon]

qwk svt, i was just wondering if you had a tune on the car before the xcal2.

if you did, or anyone did, did you notice a difference btwn the two? i know the tunes 'should' be the same comming from the same programmer, but i wondered if with the new xcal 2 it was able to change more variables.

[BK_GrandMarquis]

With may equipment, I captured 20 datapoint, per second. It's pretty interesting to see what goes on - for example the IAT goes UP, while under heavy accelleration... I would have thought it would go DOWN, with the air rushing past so quickly.


I tried the datalogging out too. When I took the readings, it said that my IAT was about 125 degrees at idle. When I started moving, it went down to about 85 degrees. I didn't drive very far though. Probably only 5 miles the most. I should have used it during my autocross yesterday though. Maybe next time.

[Petrograde]

....I've played with my shift points a bit but there are some software issues with the program which SCT is working with me on to resolve. On occasion, the changed tune (with my changes using Extreme Tune) will not properly flash the cars computer and has to be redone on the laptop and then reflashed....

Jim at CCS Tuning told me that the common denominator for 'failed flashes' is people using desktops to upload to the tuner. Something to due with USB port conflicts. Laptops have less of a problem with this.

[QWK SVT]

You're lucky to have 94 close. All we have here in the 'Peg is 91. Lidio had to back some timing out to keep the tune safe. I have a feeling it's not quite as "potent" as the 93 tune. Oh well. That's why I ordered the 4.10s from Wes this last week. :D Keep us posted on your track adventures. You and I are on the same mod path. I'd take mine to the track 'cept ours is closed for repairs this year. :down:
Closed!?! That sucks! Where's the nearest track to you? Ours is ~1.5 hours away, with another about 2.5 hours away...

I'm really enjoying the tune, right now. I'm going to wait a little bit, before the next mod - which will likely be under drive pulleys, as they're cheap and easy :cool:


qwk svt, i was just wondering if you had a tune on the car before the xcal2.

if you did, or anyone did, did you notice a difference btwn the two? i know the tunes 'should' be the same comming from the same programmer, but i wondered if with the new xcal 2 it was able to change more variables.
Sorry, I didn't have a program, before... I would think if the program came from the same tuner, there would be no difference, at all.



I tried the datalogging out too. When I took the readings, it said that my IAT was about 125 degrees at idle. When I started moving, it went down to about 85 degrees. I didn't drive very far though. Probably only 5 miles the most. I should have used it during my autocross yesterday though. Maybe next time.
Your right, for the first few minutes, mine was like that, too. After about 15 minutes of hard driving, it started to work the other way around :confused: I think the 88* ambient, combined with a completely heat soaked engine was just a little too much...

For those that have been playing around with the Xcal2, have you figured out the o2 sensors, yet? Basically, a temporary A/F guage, on the cheap ;)

[QWK SVT]

Oh, here's a quick screenshot, from the Live Link data logging tool, on the laptop...



http://www.qwksvt.com/Marauder_Files/Xcal2/Logging.jpg

[Sully008]

Closed!?! That sucks! Where's the nearest track to you? Ours is ~1.5 hours away, with another about 2.5 hours away...

I'm really enjoying the tune, right now. I'm going to wait a little bit, before the next mod - which will likely be under drive pulleys, as they're cheap and easy :cool:



The nearest track besides the one we have here in Gimli (which is an hour away) is I believe Brainerd, MN, US, which is several hours away. :(

I'm contemplating the drive pullies as well, but I'm doing the 4.10s first. I really don't like how this car is a slug off the line. My brother's '05 Stang GT basically destroyed me on Sunday from a stop light.

[BK_GrandMarquis]

Your right, for the first few minutes, mine was like that, too. After about 15 minutes of hard driving, it started to work the other way around :confused: I think the 88* ambient, combined with a completely heat soaked engine was just a little too much...

For those that have been playing around with the Xcal2, have you figured out the o2 sensors, yet? Basically, a temporary A/F guage, on the cheap ;)
I just ran another log. A 35 mile trip. The intake temp did the same as yours did. It was low for about 10 minutes, then it went up to about 125 degrees and stayed there the entire trip. The guage only shows 127. I wonder if this is the way it's supposed to be or it's bug. I would think the guage would show a higher temp max. Maybe it only shows the highest the temp has gotten to?

I haven't messed with the O2 sensor readings yet. I don't even know why some of the sensor options are duplicated in the list.

[Breadfan]

Well I finally ordered mine this week, just got it in today.

WOW! I'm so thrilled with this! Got the Xcal2 from Lidio and I'm thrilled. Off the line performance has definitely incrased and as others say just as important (more importantly actually) the transmission acts the way should.

I'm quite happy with this investment. I think this should be factored into everyone's budget when getting a Marauder even if staying stock!

Can't comment on gas mileage just yet - but, sure with less tc lockup I expect it lower, but at the same time around town I'm using alot less throttle to cruise the same way, which even without tc lockup it's gotte be saving gas by not lugging the engine or requiring the gas pedal be pushed further to get the car to respond.

[Reaper948]

Do you think I could get the same results as you received with a Lidio tuned Xcal1?

I'm sorry let me be more clear....Is there are difference in performance tuning than the Xcal1 or 2?

Thanks!

[Sully008]

Do you think I could get the same results as you received with a Lidio tuned Xcal1?

I'm sorry let me be more clear....Is there are difference in performance tuning than the Xcal1 or 2?

Thanks!

Hey Reaper,

Both Xcals will be loaded with Lidio's awesome program. The difference is you can data log and adjust settings with the Xcal2 if you wish. I have the Xcal1 with Lidio's tunes and I really don't have any need to adjust anything.

[QWK SVT]

Hey Reaper,

Both Xcals will be loaded with Lidio's awesome program. The difference is you can data log and adjust settings with the Xcal2 if you wish. I have the Xcal1 with Lidio's tunes and I really don't have any need to adjust anything.
Yep. Same program, just a different delivery device... For me, the datalogging was a big selling point. It's useful, and pretty cool to play with, too :coolman:

If you really wanted to, there are some things that you could change, using the Xtreme Tuning Software... Lidio's tune is bang on, so I doubt you'd really need to.