ROH Drift R's Test Fitting 03 MM

[AzMarauder]

Gang....

I went to Phoenix today to do a test fitting of the ROH Drift R. First I want to say that Jeff, Jake, and Andre were very helpful and went over and above to give me a look at what might be possible. They had the rims all laid out on the floor and on the ones that looked like it might even be possible, they mounted some of their new tires so I could get pictures.

Their help notwithstanding, I did NOT get a picture of the black wheel on the car from a wheel face direction. I don't know if I failed or the camera failed. I would suggest I did. I do have several pictures of the rim from an angle that shows the fitment.

The rims we tried on the car.

18 x 8 Magnesium front (many pictures) +49mm w/ Toyo tire that matched the height of my stock BFG;s.

This rim fits GREAT. Period. Almost indistinguishable from the factory rim for clearance. No problems with calipers, or fenders, everything is tucked up underneath. 1mm difference in offset so I figure this would work fine. Did not put it on the back, but see no reason why it wouldn't work fine.
:banana:

18 x 8 Competition Black front (pictures) +40mm no tire mounted.

This rim does not fit well IMHO. In the front it sticks out. The lip of the rim exceeds the fender when looking straight down. Not real bad, but I wouldn't want it on my car. We did not mount a tire as a result.


18 x 9 Magnesium back (pictures) +35mm w/ the closest tire they had.. but it was shorter than our front BFGs. They maintained that our BFGs would be a poor fit on the 18 x 9 rim. This would almost be doable. I will let you folks look at the picture and decide for yourself. Question is, do you put the stock BFGs on the rim? Tire Rack recommends 7-8.5" width for our rear tires. :dunno:


18 x 10 Magnesium back +45mm (picture) no tire mounted.

Forget about it ! Stuck way out!

I will try and put small pictures in this thread. Large (450kb) are available by email upon request.

Thought the attachments would show file name... they don't....
So they are loaded in order I discussed them above...

First two are 18 x 8 Mags 49mm
Next two are 18 x 8 Comp Black 40mm

[Rider90]

Thanks for the info!

Those look pretty good :cool:

[AzMarauder]

More pictures....

The first three are the 18 x 9 Mag 35mm on the rear.
The fourth is the OEM comparison. The lighting was poor. Perhaps they can be lightened.

The last is the 18 x 10 Mag 45mm on the rear. Looks like a 4wd setup.

[AzMarauder]

The picture here shows the 18x8 Mag 49mm on front and the 18x9 Mag 35mm on back. The rear tire is way too small.. (height) so it looks UGH...:alone:


Now the interesting part.

The Drift R Magnesiums regardless of size are the color as shown... with a brushed aluminum lip.

The Drift R Competition Black are black in the middle with brushed aluminum lip.


Sizes

Jeff could not understand why they had 18 x 8 Mag 49mm offset but not Comp Black 18 x 8 49mm offset. Wondered if it was a production oversight. In any event this can be remedied in four ways.

Jeff can order a production run (minimum run 100 rims) and can split it 1/2 and 1/2 by color choice. Thus 50 Mag / 50 Comp Black in the 49mm offset.
Pro... Get rims that are just like existing production Comp Black rims (black center, brushed alum lip)
Con... could be as late as November before they are received and we probably will have to have several orders to show it is worth ROH's time.

Jeff can take a current Mag in stock, send it out to be powder coated black. If this is done, the rim is sandblasted, powder coated black in the middle and the lip is then POLISHED.
Pro... Get rims sooner...... polished lip..
Con.. Cost more (Jeff is checking on price Monday with local shop... possibly as high as an additional $500 for the set of 4) meaning total (not shipped) around $1500
Also.. when they sandblast and then polish the lip there are some fine imperfections due to the way the wheels are cast. You don't see it from a distance, but the wheel on display that had been done like this, if you look closely you can see little variances. Shine is fine... it is just like little specks that are... (damn I can't describe it) fish eye like? Very small... I didn't notice it til Jeff showed me.

Jeff can take existing Mag Rims and have the centers painted. Jeff will check cost on this course Monday.
Pro... Get the rims sooner... retain the brush alum lip (no fish eye but not as much shine)
Con... How will the paint hold up? Added cost.

Finally....

A 19 x 8 +49mm Comp Black is already produced. There were none handy to check on the car. This of course requires different tires. The rims are "in stock" but we didn't have them handy for a trial fit. Also didn't have suitable tires that would come close to existing OEM tire heights.

Summary....

I came REAL close to buying the 18 x 8 Magnesium 49mm today. I REALLY liked the way the RIM looked on the car. The black looked good as well... (sigh).

For a black rim... either option ... order them made... (if we have enough folks) or powder coat existing stock.... both work for me. The imperfections in the powder coated POLISHED lip didn't bother me at all.

[huot5]

NIce job on the comparo. Do you have the weights of these wheels vs our stock MM wheels? 19" would be real nice to have but then so would a million $$

[AzMarauder]

NIce job on the comparo. Do you have the weights of these wheels vs our stock MM wheels? 19" would be real nice to have but then so would a million $$
I don't have a weight for the wheels....

The cost for the 19" would be significant methinks. Rims are more expensive and the tires are probably MUCH more expensive.

One thing I did forget to mention is their modular wheels. Of course one would be dropping about $2500 for the set... but you really get to call all the shots once you go modular. Offset, color, etc.

I like the Modena (modular)

[Petrograde]

Thanks for the info Az!!!!

I'd be interested in Comp. Black +49mm rims.. as long as the price is in the same neighborhood.

[Joe Walsh]

Good info, I'm glad to see that Group A (west coast office) was so helpful.

No suprise though that they did not have any 18 x 8 +49mm Comp Black Drift 'R' rims in stock.
I wish that their NY office would have told me that they weren't even being MADE when I wasted all my time with them 8 months ago. :(

You mentioned that the +40mm 18 x 8 Drift 'R' rims stuck out too far in the front...A + 40mm only moves the rim outward @ 3/8" from the OEM +50mm rim.
Was it that noticable??

BTW, You are right, those Magnesium Drift 'R' rims look SWEET!

I'm not sure how they are going to get 25 people (100 rims) to pre-order, then wait forever for the Austalian factory to manufacture & ship them over on a boat. :(
Just my :twocents:

[AzMarauder]

Good info, I'm glad to see that Group A (west coast office) was so helpful.

No suprise though that they did not have any 18 x 8 +49mm Comp Black Drift 'R' rims in stock.
I wish that their NY office would have told me that they weren't even being MADE when I wasted all my time with them 8 months ago. :(

You mentioned that the +40mm 18 x 8 Drift 'R' rims stuck out too far in the front...A + 40mm only moves the rim outward @ 3/8" from the OEM +50mm rim.
Was it that noticable??

BTW, You are right, those Magnesium Drift 'R' rims look SWEET!

I'm not sure how they are going to get 25 people (100 rims) to pre-order, then wait forever for the Austalian factory to manufacture & ship them over on a boat. :(
Just my :twocents:
Joe,

I don't think it will be 25 people for the rim load... more like... enough people to cover the black ones.... the 18 x 8 Mag 49mm are already a stockage item.
But that would be Group A's call. If the price comes in for the powder coat.. even with the attendant $500 or so increase.. that is probably the best course...

As for the difference.... I know it is a lousy picture perhaps you can lighten it up a bit and see more than what shows.... attached are pictures of the 40mm 18x8 Comp Black. I think it sticks out too much. The car was lowered on the rim with the rim sitting on wooden blocks when I took the picture.

PM if you would like the higher res pictures... I would be happy to email them.

[AzMarauder]

Gang,

This is the information concerning the ROH Drifts.....

Jeff says


"The Powder coater wants $85.00 per wheel to strip and powder coat and single color. The Polisher wants $85.00 per wheel to polish the outer rim lip, so $680.00 additional to the cost of the wheel to create a Black Drift R with a Mirror polished outer rim lip.

No 18x8 ROH Drift R Competition Black 5x4.5 bolt pattern +49mm offset on order at this time. Next production cycle starts Sept 01, 2005, delivery December 2005 to January 2006 would be soonest. Would need a minimum commitment of (24) wheels to place the order.

Also a 18x9 ROH Drift R Competition Black 5x4.5 bolt pattern +49mm offset could be ordered at the same time, again with a minimum commitment of (24) wheels."

I asked him for the out the door price for a set of powdercoated 18x8's.

Jeff said

"$1612.32 would get you (4) ROH Drift R 18x8 5x4.5 bolt pattern +49mm offset in a Black spoke with mirror polished outer rim lip mounted and balanced with AZ state sales tax.

Each wheel is priced at $360.00 complete in Black with mirror polished outer rim lip, that is $190.00 ea. for the wheel + $85.00 powder coat & $85.00 mirror polish.
This is the Marauder Club price or group purchase, retail is $37.00 more per wheel."


So what do you folks think.... too pricey for the rim we are talking about?

http://www.groupawheels.com/images/NEW-Drift-R-Black-(3_4).jpg