Why....

[Big House]

Is Ford Motor Company last when it comes to the power sedans. I was just thinking about it today...General Motors has the exclusive Caddy "V" cars. All V8's and supercharged. DBM has the SRT's and we know what they can do. My question is why can't FMC rebirth the Marauder like they did the GT and the GT500. Take one of those V10 Superduty engines they have laying around, and yes it has been done, or even a real Cobra Motor and tune it to about 450 horse, stuff it in the front of a Vic, pipe it out and tune it up and you will truly have a Marauder it deal with. I thought I would never say it, but bring Lee back...even though he killed my beloved Thunderbird, for the Mustang.

[TechHeavy]

Is Ford Motor Company last when it comes to the power sedans. I was just thinking about it today...General Motors has the exclusive Caddy "V" cars. All V8's and supercharged. DBM has the SRT's and we know what they can do. My question is why can't FMC rebirth the Marauder like they did the GT and the GT500. Take one of those V10 Superduty engines they have laying around, and yes it has been done, or even a real Cobra Motor and tune it to about 450 horse, stuff it in the front of a Vic, pipe it out and tune it up and you will truly have a Marauder it deal with. I thought I would never say it, but bring Lee back...even though he killed my beloved Thunderbird, for the Mustang.
Here, here! :beer:

[Dan]

My guess on this (and this is only a guess) is that they are unconcerned with what the motorists of today want. What we have today is what they thought that we would be wanting when they looked at it years ago.

I suspect that they spend their time trying to predict what we will want in the next few years.

The sad thing is that, based on recent global events such as weather events, Iraq, etc. we will probably see less and less of the big powerful sedan as they prep for the impact that these events will have on our economy and mindset.

Of course, I could be wrong. It could be something as simple as a mental defect that is running through the Ford family. :)

Dan

[merc]

Is Ford Motor Company last when it comes to the power sedans. I was just thinking about it today...General Motors has the exclusive Caddy "V" cars. All V8's and supercharged. DBM has the SRT's and we know what they can do. My question is why can't FMC rebirth the Marauder like they did the GT and the GT500. Take one of those V10 Superduty engines they have laying around, and yes it has been done, or even a real Cobra Motor and tune it to about 450 horse, stuff it in the front of a Vic, pipe it out and tune it up and you will truly have a Marauder it deal with. I thought I would never say it, but bring Lee back...even though he killed my beloved Thunderbird, for the Mustang.

The answer.

Saddled with enormous health care and pension costs, GM has lost more than $4 billion this year in North America, and Ford reported a $284 million quarterly loss Thursday.

Japan's biggest automakers, already the world's most profitable car companies, have captured more than a third of the U.S. market, and they are pressing ahead with plans to produce and sell more cars abroad. In addition, they will benefit from a modest recovery in their home market, which has been stagnant for more than six years.

Performance vehicles don't increase the automotive company’s profits. The trend is toward high gas mileage vehicles and Toyota and Honda are once again kicking our butts. It's up to you the consumer to increase performance. Ford gave us a good, not great platform. We have learned some of its limitations through trail and error. I personally like the car for what it is, and hope to have it for many years to come.

The grass my not be greener on the other side.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9623452/
http://www.300cforums.com/forums/srt-8-general-discussion/10414-who-send-your-brake-complaints-to.htmlhttp://www.fast-autos.net/ford/shelbycobra17.jpg

Hopefully someone will tell me how to put one of these in my Marauder.

[gpfarrell]

I think they should be slappin' that 300 hp Mustang engine in everything they can.

I'd much rather be selling a 300 hp Crown Vic against a 303 hp Impala than what's available now.

Bump it up a notch more and we could have an updated Marauder (sorry about the 3 valves versus 4, but I'd rather more low end) and some Crown Vic Cobra Jets.

[SergntMac]

Isn't it more fun to build it yourself?

[Big House]

Mac,


I agree whole heartly but there is a real cost factor in that route espically when there is a learning curve involved.

Merc,

Is it possible to put one of those in...the intake did point the right way?

[RCSignals]

The answer.

Saddled with enormous health care and pension costs, GM has lost more than $4 billion this year in North America, and Ford reported a $284 million quarterly loss Thursday.

Japan's biggest automakers, already the world's most profitable car companies, have captured more than a third of the U.S. market, and they are pressing ahead with plans to produce and sell more cars abroad. In addition, they will benefit from a modest recovery in their home market, which has been stagnant for more than six years.

Performance vehicles don't increase the automotive company’s profits. The trend is toward high gas mileage vehicles and Toyota and Honda are once again kicking our butts. It's up to you the consumer to increase performance. Ford gave us a good, not great platform. We have learned some of its limitations through trail and error. I personally like the car for what it is, and hope to have it for many years to come.

The grass my not be greener on the other side.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9623452/
http://www.300cforums.com/forums/srt-8-general-discussion/10414-who-send-your-brake-complaints-to.html
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That's it. Most buyers don't go for the 'performance sedans'. They buy Toyota Corolla, Honda Civic and Accord.

Ford has targeted those bread and butter markets quite well. Remember Ford is still in recovery after Nasser. They were left with not much new on the plate, and have had a long drive up a steep hill to get to today.

The Chrysler division of Daimler-Chrysler wouldn't be building any of their new RWD passenger car offerings if MB hadn't bought the company. Much of what is being used is older MB technology, which has helped the speed in getting these cars to market.

GM had been planning other RWD passenger cars than just the Cadillacs, but because of their deep problems, have put that on hold.

All of the manufacturers should have seen the writing on the wall about SUV futures some time ago, but seems they didn't, and are having to fast shuffle a re-position.

[Marauderman]

Isn't it more fun to build it yourself?
Yeah! It is ..funny ..how would I know that??

[bugsys03]

..General Motors has the exclusive Caddy "V" cars. All V8's and supercharged.


No supercharger on the Caddy CTSV that I looked at. 400 wheel hopping, half shaft breaking hp though :D

[fastblackmerc]

No supercharger on the Caddy CTSV that I looked at. 400 wheel hopping, half shaft breaking hp though :D
I'd have paid an extra 10G's if it had a V10 & supercharger from the factory. Would have been nice to have your choice of rear end gearing, choice of exhaust & suspension also.....

[Mike Poore]

I may be wrong, but don't the larger displacement "cammer" engines have too great a deck hight to fit in the engine bay of the Panther platform? That being said, where are they going to get the engines to put in 'em. They don't make a pushrod engine, of any displacement, that I'm aware of, and we've hashed it over and over again that the 5.4 won't fit, so what are they gonna use? The brutal truth is, Mustang, Mustang, Mustang, which, by the way is a terriffic car. I know there's gonna be a mile long waiting list for the Shelby GT 500, and the dealers will be adding a lot to the sticker, which leaves us with only one choice, if we want a large performance sedan. Me? I'm not ready to be seen in one of those ****ly things, Heeeeemy or not.


SergntMac's got it right. and Joe Walsh did it right. Keep the Marauder and when it's time to replace the engine, drop a bullet-proof crate motor in it.

Besides, where you gonna find a better looking car.:hmmm:

[txmarauder]

I'd have paid an extra 10G's if it had a V10 & supercharger from the factory. Would have been nice to have your choice of rear end gearing, choice of exhaust & suspension also.....You would pay alot more than 10G's
They could not sell the MM for the sticker price, now you guys want more hp and an even bigger sticker price, less MPG and higher insurance for a car that will be out done the next year by the competition. Boy i want your money.

[DEFYANT]

Why not make performace an option on these new cars? Imagine going to the dealer to spec out a new.... CV. Put your choice of engine, trans, gears suspension... like the ole days my dad likes to tell me about.

In the beginning....
The MM was over priced on purpose by those at Mercury who did not want the car to be a success.

Do you really think Ford wanted a 4dr Cobra? Competition from within? I think not.

At the time this car was a concept, the thinking at Ford was:
"Thou shalt not topple the Cobra"

The same is true today, except it is in reference to the new king of the hill Mr. Ford GT

[Joe Walsh]

Merc,

Is it possible to put one of those in...the intake did point the right way?

I noticed that immediately when I first saw the GT500 press release photos...
Intake is on the driver's side... :beer: :banana2: ...BUT it is a 5.4 engine which is taller/wider than the 4.6.
Will it fit in our Marauders??? :dunno:

[hwy73]

[QUOTE=DEFYANT]Why not make performace an option on these new cars? Imagine going to the dealer to spec out a new.... CV. Put your choice of engine, trans, gears suspension... like the ole days my dad likes to tell me about.

For those that remember the 70's............
In the big Fords/Mercs you could choose....
351, 400, 429, 460
Three different rears

[bigslim]

I'll tell why. The Ford family runs the car company the same way they run the Detroit Lions. They no nothing about football and nothing about what cars people want. We need some real car guys at the top of Ford. The lastest V.P. they just promoted is another guy that knows nothing about cars. Just what was needed, another numbers guy.

[DEFYANT]

Slim, as you know, it's not what you know... it's who you know

[MENINBLK]

Will it fit in our Marauders??? :dunno:


Short answer - YES, with a taller hood, No, with the stock hood...

That's about it...

[RCSignals]

Short answer - YES, with a taller hood, No, with the stock hood...

That's about it...


Who needs a hood?