Supercharger Raffle? [Archive] - MercuryMarauder.net Forums

mpearce

11-14-2005, 06:52 PM

I was wondering if there was going to be another Supercharger Raffle this year? You know, with Christmas coming and everything, will we make this an annual event on the site?

I haven't talked to the "powers that be" yet on this...I'm just throwing it out to see if there would be any intrest this year like there was last year.

Mgt can make their own decisions on all the rules etc. I'm just curious to find out if we could pull off another raffle this holiday season. If it's not worth all the bother...it's no big deal.

So who's in?

P.S.

If a "cause" is needed to get a raffle going...maybe the proceeds could help get the 4th annual meet (Marauderville 4) off the ground and running...or...it could help benefit the site etc. Just ideas here folks...nothing more.

Rick-n-Miami

11-14-2005, 06:57 PM

Yeah, I'd buy another ticket ;)

merc6

11-14-2005, 07:01 PM

What does the ticket price run and how many tickets can be purched by a single member?

Blackened300a

11-14-2005, 07:02 PM

What does the ticket price run and how many tickets can be purched by a single member?

What he said and HELL YES Im in!

fastblackmerc

11-14-2005, 07:07 PM

What he said and HELL YES Im in!
What they said... I'd buy a couple....

mpearce

11-14-2005, 07:54 PM

What does the ticket price run and how many tickets can be purched by a single member?

Well let's not get ahead of ourselves yet. We don't even know if it'll happen again, or even be approved.

I was just curious to see if there was any intrest. I guess there is.

All of those questions would be up to Management to make the decisions on.

Untill then...

-Mat

StevenJ

11-14-2005, 09:34 PM

Yeah, I'd buy another ticket ;)
Roy told me you won the first one in a raffle? He isn't pulling my leg is he? If he isn't, you lucky bastard.... lol! So when are you going to do that hd tranny rebuild?

MM03MOK

11-14-2005, 09:37 PM

Roy told me you won the first one in a raffle? He isn't pulling my leg is he? If he isn't, you lucky bastard.... lol! So when are you going to do that hd tranny rebuild?Yep, Roy's pulling your leg. ;) :D

Gre8one7

11-15-2005, 12:06 AM

Hell, im sure i could save some money for a ticket...i want a supercharger so bad :)

whoskal

11-15-2005, 12:25 AM

I'm in. :burnout: bring on the raffle!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rick-n-Miami

11-15-2005, 04:27 AM

No, I didn't win the first one. I might have got the second one, but certainly not the first. :)

Yep, Roy's pulling your leg. ;) :D

Mike Poore

11-15-2005, 04:37 AM

Um, it was MARY :bunny2:that won the first raffle.

There was a VID and a ton of folks watching. The funny part was, they had trouble trying to figure out who Mary Tischler was. Then, to wild applause, HEY! that's Bunny!
:lovies2:

Anyway, I'm in, and think it's a great fundraiser.

Thanks for bringing it up Mat; although winning it ain't gonna get you past Heather's 11sec Buick. :razz:

ghost03

11-15-2005, 05:38 AM

That would be the ultimate christmas present. It might be hard to put under the tree but im sure it will fit.......Its too bad we dont have a raffle every month.

RoyLPita

11-15-2005, 06:01 AM

Yeah, I'd buy another ticket ;)

I'd shake Rick's hand while buying my ticket.

watts428

11-15-2005, 06:36 AM

I'm there!!:beer:

merc6

11-15-2005, 09:26 AM

Before I fully say yes. is there a location this will take place? Also another one to shoot up to management was was if you weren't able to make it and won, could we pay S&H for it? Due to my job I have a hard time leaving the area if it weren't held really local :(

Pat

11-15-2005, 01:27 PM

Count me in for at least one maybe two.

mcb26

11-15-2005, 02:16 PM

How about the equivilent $ for a gift certificate from a supporting vendor? For those who already have a S/C or don't want one.

SergntMac

11-15-2005, 03:18 PM

I'm missing some 411 on this, need to ask a few questions...

Are any of the supercharger vendors on board with this? Greg? Dennis? Jerry?

Are we raising funds for an event of some sort, or, just having some fun with luck and odds?

What happens to the money collected once the cost of the kit is covered? Does that end the sale of chances?

Not trying to start anything, just wondering. We've done this twice before with lot's of success, so, the groundwork has been laid.

Eric91Z

11-15-2005, 03:40 PM

I would be in again. And if it went through, wouldn't mind seeing the "extra" money go to the site again for continued maintenance and upgrades that Logan has been doing.

merc6

11-15-2005, 05:27 PM

ditto on site maintnence...

FordNut

11-15-2005, 05:38 PM

I would be in again. And if it went through, wouldn't mind seeing the "extra" money go to the site again for continued maintenance and upgrades that Logan has been doing.
I'll do it again, even though I'm already s/c.

Last year we did one of them at holiday season, somebody got a nice gift and the site got the rest. Then we did another as a fund raiser for MVIII. Maybe we ought to plan on TWO more s/c auctions!

Agent M79

11-15-2005, 06:15 PM

Well, when I voted, the 'yes' column was at 64.

Lots of good questions asked here need to be answered. If the answers are substantially similar to previous raffles, I am in.

Petrograde

11-15-2005, 06:32 PM

How about a Kook's exhaust raffle? :D

SergntMac

11-15-2005, 07:20 PM

How about a Kook's exhaust raffle? :D Okay, I'm in now too. If everyone who voted actually buys one 100 dollar chance, there will be enough money for the winner to pick the kit of his choice, and there may be enough surplus to feed the site, and make a Kook's kit the runner up prize. I don't need a S/C kit either, but I'd chance 100 bucks to win a Kook's kit. Thanks for the idea Tom.

mpearce

11-16-2005, 02:00 PM

Mac,

I don't know if your questions were directed at me or not, but I'll just throw this in. I only started the poll to see if there was any intrest in the idea of another raffle, nothing more. As you stated, the site conducted two successful raffles that both ended on a positive note. To me, things like this help spark some intrest in the site, as well as intrest in our supporting vendors, especially for the cold winter months that us northerners have to deal with.

Everyone else,

As far as all the rules, regs, choices, ideas...thats all up to Logan, and the moderators. Ultimately, they will make the decision on this, either yes or no. If this ends up going nowhere, it's no big deal, although it would be fun if it did. I guess this poll was to get the ball rolling a little early. I like the ideas of extra money going to help the site, or going to help plan our 4th National meet (wherever its going to be). I also like the ideas of having Kooks, or possibly Stainless Works exhaust kits as runner up prizes etc.

These are all great ideas. Who knows, maybe MM.net could pull off another successful raffle?

-Mat

SergntMac

11-16-2005, 03:05 PM

Mac, I don't know if your questions were directed at me or not, but I'll just throw this in. I only started the poll to see if there was any intrest in the idea of another raffle, nothing more. As you stated, the site conducted two successful raffles that both ended on a positive note. To me, things like this help spark some intrest in the site, as well as intrest in our supporting vendors, especially for the cold winter months that us northerners have to deal with.-Mat Actually, -Mat, my question meant to serve two purposes. One to inspire newer members into some thinking and building some trust that we know how to do this right, and two, to remind the vetrans that these programs have worked well before. Wasn't trying to rattle any cages, just being a Devil's advocate...Again.

Honestly, it's a great idea, thank you, and I can't wait for it to move forward. The timing is right for a neat Xmas present for someone, maybe two? Plus, I know Logan has to be in the hole after this last upgrade, and I don't want to see this site have to go to subscriptions. Thanks again, -Mat.

Logan

11-16-2005, 04:57 PM

Plus, I know Logan has to be in the hole after this last upgrade, and I don't want to see this site have to go to subscriptions. Thanks again, -Mat.

That'll never happen. Contributions are always voluntary....

Pondering the raffle...

marauderboi

11-16-2005, 05:42 PM

It would be nice if we could have the raffel before x-mas so I can buy a ticket for my dad

Glenn

11-16-2005, 06:20 PM

It's the only way I would be able to own one. So let's go for it one more time.

Glenn

Dave Compson

11-16-2005, 08:16 PM

I'd be interested in another shot at a supercharger. You cant win if you dont play.

HwyCruiser

11-16-2005, 08:38 PM

Why not? I purchased my s/c just before the end of the MV III raffle and I would buy another one this time around to again support the site and/or next year's meet. A chance at a 2nd prize Kook's exhaust would only sweeten the pot.

hdwrench

11-16-2005, 09:56 PM

i'd buy a ticket. please dont let me buy 4 like the first time!! :)

grampaws

11-17-2005, 04:46 AM

S/C , X-cal2, JLT/K&N-CAI , and kookS..
Just some suggestion...
I in just for the S/C anyways..
Could pay for MM.net promos...
T-shirts,Business cards ..:rolleyes:

Marauder8

11-17-2005, 11:37 AM

I'll buy one ticket. Former Marauder owner am I, have an 05 GT Mustang now. jdando owns my old one.
Ron

Dennis Reinhart

11-18-2005, 02:27 PM

I'm impressed by the response to the poll, and the remarks of the members posting. If everyone who voted actually buys a ticket, the club will do well after purchasing the raffle prizes. I'd like to help out too.

To whomever comes forward to stage this event, I am offering one Vortech air-to-air, or, one Vortech water-to-air supercharger kit, as well as one complete Kook's exhaust kit. You will pay my cost, plus 10 percent for handling. As in the past, shipping cost will be the responsibility of the winners. Please call to discuss details when you are ready to set things up, and good luck to all.

Pat

11-18-2005, 02:36 PM

Dawg gone, this puppy's alive, count me in for two firm.

Sully008

11-18-2005, 02:50 PM

Bloody hell, first the Granatelli COPs, now a S/C raffle again. Oh well, it's only money. Count me in when all's set to go.

Hotrauder

11-18-2005, 02:51 PM

:beer:
I'm impressed by the response to the poll, and the remarks of the members posting. If everyone who voted actually buys a ticket, the club will do well after purchasing the raffle prizes. I'd like to help out too.

To whomever comes forward to stage this event, I am offering one Vortech air-to-air, or, one Vortech water-to-air supercharger kit, as well as one complete Kook's exhaust kit. You will pay my cost, plus 10 percent for handling. As in the past, shipping cost will be the responsibility of the winners. Please call to discuss details when you are ready to set things up, and good luck to all.

Dennis, That is big. thanks. Count me in as I want to support the club, too. Dennis:beer:

Blackened300a

11-18-2005, 03:20 PM

will this charger include the tuning with all the bells and whistles?

maraudernkc

11-18-2005, 04:21 PM

FIT is always interested in helping the site and the members therefore we would donate a kit at 5% over our cost. Shipping not included. :beer:

Petrograde

11-18-2005, 04:52 PM

wow! 2 superchargers and a Kooks setup?!

holy crap! this is shaping up to be a seriously kick ass raffle!!!

TooManyFords

11-18-2005, 05:01 PM

Why not! I've been eyeing this beautiful 92 Mustang Convert. and that supercharger will bolt on or sold for one that would. A centrifigul would be right at home under the hood.

Cheers!

John

mpearce

11-18-2005, 05:37 PM

Wow...I'm very impressed. Dennis, and Greg, thanks for the generosity, thats wonderful. It's just up to Management to make all the calls, and give us the green light. Hopefully a raffle will be underway soon. I just hope that if we do have a raffle, that everyone that voted YES participates.

-Mat

Petrograde

11-18-2005, 06:10 PM

I just hope that if we do have a raffle, that everyone that voted YES participates.

I've noticed something over the past couple years... It mostly concerns group buys, but I think it applies here:

...if 104 people say they want in, 52 will actully pony up the dough.

I'm not trying flame anyone who voted yes, nor am I implying that they are in any way full of $h!t. It's just what I've seen happen here many,many times.

If it's approved by Logan, I hope all the tickets seel like they did last year.

Thanks, for throwing the Kook's Dennis! :up: I'd buy a ticket just for the chance to get 'em! :burnout:

MainEngDwarf

11-18-2005, 07:34 PM

This sounds great, count me in for a ticket

Blue03

11-19-2005, 12:31 AM

Ahh Here we go again!!!:)

grampaws

11-19-2005, 09:20 AM

Whats the sayng! Lets get'er done!!

mpearce

11-26-2005, 06:35 PM

Moderators, Logan...any word on this yet?

Just curious.

-Mat

Logan

11-26-2005, 06:53 PM

Probably will happen towards the beginning of December with the proceeds going to charity.

Jerry Barnes

11-26-2005, 07:30 PM

Folks,

I am in with the other vendors(F150, Marauder or Mustang, your choice). It would be great to see it help the Club!

Thanks

Jerry

bigslim

11-26-2005, 08:08 PM

Folks,

I am in with the other vendors(F150, Marauder or Mustang, your choice). It would be great to see it help the Club!

Thanks

Jerry
Dammit, now I gotta buy a truck.

mpearce

11-26-2005, 08:17 PM

Logan...thats fantastic news!

Jerry...thanks for the participation!

I'm sure this will make a ton of people happy over the holidays, and hopefully the extra money will go toward a good cause.

Logan, Thank you for letting this move forward.

-Mat

drobin

12-01-2005, 08:55 PM

Let's go, I's ready !!!!

drobin

jawz101

12-03-2005, 01:42 AM

Well considering I only started on this site about 8 months ago and now I check the site on upwards 20 times a day... fine... if i lose this site better have a cool grey-out feature when I press the 'log out' button to make me feel bad for stepping away:bows:

Logan

12-03-2005, 07:43 AM

I'll set it up this weekend...

grampaws

12-03-2005, 11:25 AM

Looking forward to it!! :banana:

jstevens

12-03-2005, 11:37 AM

Has a charity been chosen yet?

jawz101

12-19-2005, 07:49 PM

Bueller... Bueller... anyone?

teamrope

12-19-2005, 09:29 PM

chirp chirp chirp chirp
:confused:

Rider90

12-19-2005, 10:09 PM

125 "YES"

So...

125 x 100 = $12,500 if everyone pulls through, which usually doesn't happen, but we'll probably be close.

As far as the extra money, can the winner of the ticket decide which charity it goes to?

martyo

12-20-2005, 01:31 AM

As far as the extra money, can the winner of the ticket decide which charity it goes to?

If that is the case, count me in for two. Yeah, at least two.

SergntMac

12-20-2005, 09:43 AM

As far as the extra money, can the winner of the ticket decide which charity it goes to?This is probably going to ruffle some feathers here, but I do that once in a while. Y'all should be used to it by now.

The news that any extra funds would go to charity chilled my interest in this raffle. I would be delighted to enjoy a few chances at a supercharger kit of my choice, and I felt good that any residual funds would be pledged to something else in our mutual benefit, such as website mods, grubstake for MV-IV, maybe 2nd and 3rd place prizes. Going to charity is problematic, and I'm not interested in a raffle anymore.

I'm not cheap, I'm picky, and I think most of us are. What I see as a good cause earns my charity. What someone else sees as a good cause may not be that in my view. A charity is a tax exempt status, not all charities are benevolent. I have serious moral objections to many charities. Therefore, I would want to know the target for the donation before I buy a chance, and that target may stop me from taking a chance. I am fairly certain many others here share my feelings. I see this all around me in my real world, and we have seen it here ourselves, when there were opportunities to pitch in and help a fellow owner.

I may be the only one to express my reservations publically, but I know others feel the same way, it's been a topic of discussion in other mediums. I think donating any left over funds to charity will result in disssention among us, and there is enough of this now. This is not my final answer on it, but it's likely I would not participate.

Pricing the cost of a raffle ticket should be focused to minimize any spill over.

Rider90

12-20-2005, 09:49 AM

Rider90

12-20-2005, 09:51 AM

Pricing the cost of a raffle ticket should be focused to minimize any spill over.
Some people don't want to pay $500 for the same one chance. Unless there is a five ticket minimum, there will a staggering amount of people that will not participate.

Eric91Z

12-20-2005, 10:15 AM

SergntMac

12-20-2005, 10:29 AM

So you're saying the person who won the raffle would, or could be, only donating to charity for tax purposes? Is there a way around this, persay, a donation without a reciept? I don't know much about this at all. I do hope that if this follows through, and someone makes a donation to charity but gets it taken off from taxes, that they donated for the right reason. Is this something that the person can fairly tear up? refuse the deduction to be fair? Now I'm curious. I'm not saying anything of a sort, please go back and read my post again.

What I am suggesting, is that donating any spill over funds to charity will be problematic among us, and that may have a chilling effect on the success of the raffle, and I explained why. I'm not a tax lawyer, Jason, I prolly know less about it than you.

I am suggesting the cost a raffle ticket, and the number of tickets available be focused on target, the cost of a supercharger kit. 60 bucks per ticket, 100 tickets = 6 grand, enough to allow the winner to select the kit of his choice.

I won't quibble over 25-50 bucks left over, but if there is 500-1000 bucks left over and it goes to charity, I want to know which charity before I buy a ticket. I believe others will want to know too, and herein begins the headache. Attempts to cure may spoil the outcome, avoid it now, skip the charity idea, IMHO.

Logan

12-20-2005, 10:32 AM

I´m suggesting that this crap is exactly why I´m not all that excited about doing it...

Eric91Z

12-20-2005, 10:58 AM

I´m suggesting that this crap is exactly why I´m not all that excited about doing it...

As far as I am concerned, $100 for a raffle ticket that could potentially get me a $6000 supercharger setup on a board of, what, 2000, or less people with possibly 100-150 tickets sold, is great odds. And if there is extra left over, a second place prize of a full Kooks exhaust would be kind of cool. Beyond that, I am really not too picky what Logan does with the rest of the money. Put it towards the site, keep it as payment for maintaining and upgrading the site, put it towards a worth while charity that actually helps people. I trust Logan's judgement to do what is in the best interest of the money the members of the site give for the raffle.

I guess, after further thought, I would trust Logan to choose an appropriate charity to give the money to and it would be nice to have the extra go to help someone or a group (Cancer research, Victory Junction Gang, Breast Canceer, etc).

Just my thoughts. I don't want this to be a complete frustration for Logan such that the site loses the opportunity for another raffle. Especially since the Vendors seem to be on board with this.

RF Overlord

12-20-2005, 10:58 AM

MENINBLK

12-20-2005, 11:16 AM

As long as the receiving Charity is MM.net, I will be happy with that.
This was the way the last raffle was run,
and this is the way all our raffles should be run.

Everyone who bought a $100 chance, received 1 year of access to MM.net
with all of the same benefits as someone who donated $100 to MM.net would.
So even if you didn't win the raffle, you still benefited in some way.

The funds went to support MM.net hardware and access for us,
so we could continue to fill Logan's hard drive with Marauder knowledge
and useless banter about someone's "My Last Post"...

If the raffle is going to be for any other purpose, then I would have to
rethink my postion on participating in it.

Marauder8

12-20-2005, 12:09 PM

What Bob said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Rider90

12-20-2005, 12:13 PM

If ya'll are going to get your panties in a bunch about which charity deserves the money more, forget about it. Come up with second, third, etc.. prizes that will nearly eliminate the extra money and any remainder be given to keeping Logan's board online.

the_pack_rat

12-20-2005, 12:31 PM

Those who have been around a while know that I rarely participate in political discussions. I do feel the need to speak up this time.

I agree with Mac.

There are MANY charities out there that are deserving of all the funds they can raise. Unfortunately, I can't donate to all of them, so I choose which ones, based on purely personal criteria that aren't important to this discussion. There are also some, like Mac said, that I specifically choose NOT to donate to. What happens if the "leftover" from the raffle ends up going to one of them? I would not be happy knowing that I involuntarily donated to a charity that I don't support.

Although I'm sure the suggestion to donate the "leftover" to a charity was made with nothing but the best intentions, I suggest we leave that option out, for the reasons that others have already voiced: it has the potential to create bad feelings. Let's keep it purely Marauder-related. If you feel strongly about donating to a particular charity, then by all means do so...but if you can't afford to buy a raffle ticket AND make a charitable donation, then maybe you should think hard about which you'd rather do.

As long as the receiving Charity is MM.net, I will be happy with that.
This was the way the last raffle was run,
and this is the way all our raffles should be run.

Everyone who bought a $100 chance, received 1 year of access to MM.net
with all of the same benefits as someone who donated $100 to MM.net would.
So even if you didn't win the raffle, you still benefited in some way.

The funds went to support MM.net hardware and access for us,
so we could continue to fill Logan's hard drive with Marauder knowledge
and useless banter about someone's "My Last Post"...

If the raffle is going to be for any other purpose, then I would have to
rethink my postion on participating in it.
I couldn't have said it better myself.

These raffles are always great & I always liked the fact that ... the spillover/extra fund$ generated always helped to support/maintain/upgrade the site.

If that $pillover shall be used/put towards something else OTHER than the MM.net site(aka charity in this case) ... I do feel it would not be un-reasonable of any potential participants, in wanting to know just what that charity will be BEFORE hand. If the said/chosen charity doesn't fall within ones beliefs or interest(s) ... than that person can simply choose NOT to particpate in the raffle.

Simple & fair enough I think.

SergntMac

12-20-2005, 12:44 PM

As far as the extra money, can the winner of the ticket decide which charity it goes to? You opened this exchange of thought, Jason, the rest of us simply added our thoughts, and in very neutral and respectful tones.

If ya'll are going to get your panties in a bunch about which charity... Dude...Un-cool. Tsk, tsk...

jstevens

12-20-2005, 12:45 PM

I agree with the 2nd Kooks, 3rd something else idea.

Eric91Z

12-20-2005, 12:55 PM

I agree with the 2nd Kooks, 3rd something else idea.

I am pretty flexible and fine with that, too, if the Vendor's are on-board with it. Here would be my choices:

1) Supercharger
2) Kooks exhaust
3) Addco Sway Bars or Metco Control Arms (if there was enough funds, but fine with 1 and 2)

Just my $.02

Dragcity

12-20-2005, 01:55 PM

" OF THE PEOPLE .... FOR THE PEOPLE "

Put it toward the site or toward an event... This really is a no brainer...

martyo

12-20-2005, 01:55 PM

Oy vey.

Oy vey.

Oy vey.

MI2QWK4U

12-20-2005, 02:46 PM

Oy vey.

Oy vey.

Oy vey.

Yep....pretty much....I love all the input from folks that have never staged, supplied, or ran a raffle like this before!

Rider90

12-20-2005, 03:07 PM

Dude...Un-cool. Tsk, tsk...
Thank you for telling me, dude :rolleyes:

I'll be sure to test the water in other threads so I can clearly define your defination of cool and follow it to the "T" because I just want to make you happy. In the future, you can save your opinion of where I go wrong in your book.

jawz101

12-20-2005, 03:15 PM

I think my post after a week or 2 of no one saying anything started the talks today.
Everyone is thinking about this way too hard. Take everyone's money, win me parts. It's that simple.
When I win you all can take the leftovers and :argue: about it... as long as the server and hosting fees
are paid for.
I think the change left over should go to beer money for Logan.

MI2QWK4U

12-20-2005, 03:48 PM

Thank you for telling me, dude :rolleyes:

I'll be sure to test the water in other threads so I can clearly define your defination of cool and follow it to the "T" because I just want to make you happy. In the future, you can save your opinion of where I go wrong in your book.

First off, dont ever plan your posts around what Mac or any other person on this board thinks. Second, you will never make Mac or any other person happy. Lastly, you are always going to get Mac's or any other person's opinion weather its called for or not. People on this site tend to get their panties in a bunch when any other opinion other than their own is posted. I went through this same bullcrap with MVIII when I had free nights stay vouchers for hotel rooms to be used during MVIII. I suggested raffleing them off and the proceeds going to a worthy charity. What upset me more than everyone fighting over it, denying some charity some extra cash, it was the resounding "whats in it for me" attitude displayed by some members on this board because they wanted the free night at the hotel for themselves. Instead, I just threw the names of everyone staying at the hotel in a hat and my daughter drew a free nights stay for those people.
Another problem is people here think that they are important enough that their voice should be heard over others, and their ideas should fly. The only voice important enough to make decisions is Logans. Its his site, his rules. Mine, Mac's, Mary's, Dan's, or anyone elses voice doesnt mean squat. I'm sure he sits back and has a big laugh over some of the crap people find important and find so serious. This raffle is doomed due to the fact no one can agree. I unfortunately feel that MVIV will not happen due to simular reasons. No one wants to step up and devote time and effort into it. At this point last year I had about 90% of the details worked out for MVIII, it was worked on by a few devoted people and they presented a comprehensive, all inclusive plan to Logan. Logan liked it and since he didnt have to devote time to it, he gave his blessing to it. You guys cant agree on anything! Including just about every idea for this raffle, and for MVIV.
I really have gotten used to not really posting a lot over here. I know that someone will toss their useless "2cents" in and tick me off, so why bother. It seems you forget why we all came here, the love of a car. Now that car is dead, yep, DEAD. After all, it is just a car. I dont mean you shouldnt enjoy them, I enjoy everyone of my cars, each scratches a different itch, but they are all just sheet metal and plastic. Anyway....I got a little bent reading this thread and felt compelled to chime in. This thread wont be here long anyway. Carry on and be nice to each other.

martyo

12-20-2005, 04:02 PM

Carry on and be nice to each other.

Yeah, but where is teh fun in that?

FordNut

12-20-2005, 04:36 PM

What does it matter where the extra money goes? Buy a chance for a supercharger at a great deal, and let it go.

My .02 though, it would be nice to see it go to the site or to support an event (like maybe MV IV).

MI2QWK4U

12-20-2005, 05:12 PM

Brian, thats a great idea, but you need to set some things in stone before you try it so you know exactly whats going on.

For example;
1) Determine the reason for the raffle.
-Benefit MM.net website.
-Fund and Defer costs to those attending a Marauderville event.

2) Determine the amount needed to be raised for this reason in #1.
-If Logan says it costs him $1000 a year for the website, then that is your target (I have no idea on how much it costs, I just threw that number out there as an example).
-If funding a MV event, you need to have a budget in place to determine how much money you need to raise or shoot for. I had a budget in place and knew exactly what the raffle needed to raise for MVIII. Due to the tickets not selling out, this amount fell a little shy and had to be made up elsewhere.

3) Base the number of tickets you want to sell and the amount of the tickets on the actual cost of the prize (in this case a supercharger) and the amount you are shooting for.

4) Eliminate extra prizes because that complicates things, and now you have other things to consider on top of #1, #2, and #3 above.

5) Eliminate the whole "what to do with any extra money raised" aguement. This is going to tear this site apart debating. If you plan #2 and #3 right above, there wont be any extra, if there is, spend it on #1 anyway.

If you get focused and follow that recipe, a raffle will work just fine. The only reason I offer this information is due to the fact that I just went thru this last summer for MVIII. Good luck.

bigslim

12-20-2005, 08:52 PM

I am still in. I can see what Mac is saying. Maybe an option would be if Logan came up with a couple of different charity options and we could vote on them for where the extra money should go.

I think what Logan was going to do was after all funds are collected (tickets sold), winner drawn, funds given out for the Supercharger kit (and 2nd and 3rd place prizes if it went that route), then the remaining funds, instead of being kept and put towards the website, like in the past, would be donated to a charity. I personally don't have a problem with that if it is a worthy charity. Just like I have given what I can, when I can, to others on the site when needed. Don't think I would do that for any other car site I am a member of...
This is my thought exactly. With all that has happened here this year in this country I feel that there are some worthwhile charities. It seems to me that some here feel that they want to get as much out of this raffle as possible. "Well, maybe if I don't win the supercharger I may win the Kooks". Why not let the rest of the raffle money go elsewhere? There are too many that need our help. So what if Logan makes a judgement call and gives it to the charity of his choice. At least someone deserving benefited from it. At this point I have really started to lose interest in this raffle. I already have a supercharger so it is not like I need one. I would have gotten it and sold it for one hell of a deal anyway. With all this bickering I could care less now.

Rider90

12-20-2005, 09:02 PM

With all this bickering I could care less now.
This is where I stand. I never would have guessed that a suggestion to donate a possible $5,000 into a charity would have turned into a fight. Not saying I don't see or understand the reasons, but, it's 5 grand that can help out another human being that is probably less fortunate than us. Or help cure a disease.

SergntMac

12-21-2005, 10:20 AM

This is where I stand. I never would have guessed that a suggestion to donate a possible $5,000 into a charity would have turned into a fight. Not saying I don't see or understand the reasons, but, it's 5 grand that can help out another human being that is probably less fortunate than us. Or help cure a disease. First, it's not a fight, or, a squallble, or anything near that. No one "had their panties in a bunch" until it a disrespectful comment was posted. Go back and read the thread again, I just did. I see a series of posts from members adding their opinoins to a specific side of this discussion, i.e. what to do with surplus funds after the winner picks his/her supercharger kit. This is the only topic in discussion, and it's still open for discussion.

Opinions are just that, absorb them, and respect them, everyone has different thoughts about stuff. Opinions are the backbone of this web site, whether they be about fuel pumps, drag radials, or, donations to charity. Opinions drive this site, and every member should feel welcome to post their own opinion, without riddicule.

For some folks, donating to charity is an important decision for them, and they feel it's their decision alone. When someone else makes that decision without their input, you will hear dissent. Other folks don't really care one way or another, and that's cool, but neutral opinion don't help settle the issue.

My employer has an automatic payroll deduction program where I can make charitable donations from my paycheck, most employers do. Do you think I give up 5 bucks a week without knowing where my money is going? Would you? It's this simple, and this is All I have been saying.

Don't leave this decision hanging until after the raffle. If a charity is to be the destination for surplus funds, identify which charity out in front, and get on with it. If someone disagrees with the destination, then he/she can decide to participate in the raffle, or, not. Others ^ there have since echoed similar opinions, and I believe my advice is good caution. Look at where we are at now?

This issues has come up before, thank you Dave, for the reminder. (Note that this was posted in Community Discussions, and a call for advice was membership wide. Had it been posted elsewhere, and knowing I could not attend, I would not have added my input.)

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=281438

It wasn't settled last time because another option was chosen. However, here it is again and if you do not settle it now, it will remain an issue in the next adventure. My other advice ^ there, was that if folks are unwilling to explore an agreement at this time, it would be best to avoid this topic and find another option for any surplus funds.

Sadly, some folks think discussing this in a respectful manner is cover for being cheap, selfcentered, or, lacking compassion for the troubles in our world. Indeed. At this point, I supose enough has been posted to wreck this program, can't say I would blame Logan for 86-ing it. This would disappoint me, but I would understand, considering where the discussion has taken us.