Dodge Challenger is back ***DUW***

[MERCMAN]

http://www.mph-online.com/web/news/00186

[Rider90]

6-Speed Manual?? On my wish list...

So are Ford and GM sleeping?

[Mike Poore]

http://www.mph-online.com/web/news/00186

Challenger features the 6.1-liter, 425-horsepower version with a 6-speed manual transmission, in a 2 door coupe. :eek:

I have not even considered any Chrysler product since my '68 Barracuda ......until now!

I'll have me one of them puppy's. :woohoo:

[TripleTransAm]

Concept photo I saw a few months back:

http://sports.autoblog.com/entry/1234000013051179/

2 doors... this should address all those complaining about the Charger being a 4 door. You know they say about "Money talks..." and "BS..." etc.etc... if there really IS a market for 2 door performance coupes, now there will be no excuse. If the car DOESN'T sell, it'll be a big blow to the egos of those who p*ssed and moaned about a 4 door Charger. End of story.

Edit: here's the photo:

http://common.weblogsinc.com/common/images/0039361835960125.JPG?0.5077645 987899533

[MM03MOK]

more pics.... http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/11/21/D8E0U1K00.html

[TripleTransAm]

6-Speed Manual?? On my wish list...

So are Ford and GM sleeping?

Ford isn't sleeping, they have their Mustang which is selling quite nicely as it is, and will surely have a hi-po version coming soon.

GM, on the other hand, is on life-support and shouldn't really be concerning itself with anything other than getting their cars on Oprah.

[CBT]

Now that is one bad ass looking car. I love that retro-Barracuda look. I hope they make it, even though I doubt if I could afford one.

[MAD-3R]

Concept photo I saw a few months back:

http://sports.autoblog.com/entry/1234000013051179/

2 doors... this should address all those complaining about the Charger being a 4 door. You know they say about "Money talks..." and "BS..." etc.etc... if there really IS a market for 2 door performance coupes, now there will be no excuse. If the car DOESN'T sell, it'll be a big blow to the egos of those who p*ssed and moaned about a 4 door Charger. End of story.

Edit: here's the photo:

http://common.weblogsinc.com/common/images/0039361835960125.JPG?0.5077645 987899533

Hmmmm...

Yummy.

[MAD-3R's Wife]

Hmmmm...

Yummy.

For some reason I agree with him. That is a very nice looking vehicle. :D

[Marauder2005]

I have to give Dodge their credit as of late. That is one sharp looking

car. Now if we can just make Ford make a SVT Crown Vic 3v S/C maybe

call it the "Torino", I will be a happy man :D

[DEFYANT]

I like that new dodge. Gotta admitt..

[Sully008]

All speculation here, but where in the price range do you guys think this new Challenger will fall into? I'm guessing depending on motor choices (it'll probably have the same as the 300 line, V6, 5.7L, 6.1L) The V6/5.7Ls will take on the Mustang V6/GT, with the 6.1L going up against the new Shelby Cobra.

Now, as long as DCX can come close to the Mustang in prices, they may have a winner here. As TTA said ^, a lot of people complained that the Charger should of been 2 doors. Well, here it comes. Are they willing to pay a premium for those missing doors should the Challenger be more expensive than the Mustang?

IMO, I'm glad there's HP back in cars. Competition either improves the breed, or crushes into oblivion. As for me, I'd better start saving more pennies for that S/C.:D

[gpfarrell]

Wow. Thanks for the post... might be Challenging to not buy this Dodge.

Neat to hear it'll have the big motor / 6-speed combo... but I bet well see lots of V6 / automatics too... nothing wrong with that, I just can't imagine they'd do all the tooling for the body and limit it to the monster drivetrain.

[juno]

Now that's purty!! And fast!!

[STLR FN]

:drool: :drool: :drool: I'll take one in red please. :drool: :drool: :drool:

[Shankin]

I like the cuda look!

[BK_GrandMarquis]

I like the cuda look!

The concept looks nice but it won't come out like that. So far all the Dodge vehicles have the same signature grill. The concept is more what a resto-mod guy would do to an old car.

[chicago_cop]

6-Speed Manual?? On my wish list...

So are Ford and GM sleeping?


Have you ever owned a six speed manual? A friend of mine said it drove him crazy shifting all the time. It drove his wife crazy as well. He sold the car. A 5 is more reasonable, or an auto stick of what ever. Wish our cars had it. My 2 cts.

[JK2004MM]

Here's another link with some more pics. These show the concept with a grille similar to that on the Charger.

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103629

[Eric91Z]

Have you ever owned a six speed manual? A friend of mine said it drove him crazy shifting all the time. It drove his wife crazy as well. He sold the car. A 5 is more reasonable, or an auto stick of what ever. Wish our cars had it. My 2 cts.

I have owned a '93 Camaro Z28 with the 6 speed and have driven a good number of C5 Corvettes with the 6 speed and it is no different than any other manual equiped car. The extra gear is just an extra overdrive. With a V8 car, they had plenty of torque to pull from most any gear selection and run about 1500 rpm or so in 6th gear. Definitely did not need to be shifting all the time. Shoot, I had to shift more in my 5 speed Honda Accord than I did with my 6 speed Z28.

Just saying that a 6-speed is not any worse than any other manual. I really love the automatic in the Marauder for a daily driver, but my next "toy" car will be a manual. And most likely, based on what I have looked at, it will have a 6 speed.

[SergntMac]

Wow...Though I didn't like the '70-'71 Challenger all that much, but I gotta say that's schweeeet. I see the family resemblence to daddy, this car ought to do well in the market today.

Now...Who wants to see this Challenger in a remake of Vanishing Point?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067927/

[Directedby]

Here are some other Concept sketches and stuff...

http://img267.echo.cx/img267/3824/zap15jd.jpg

[Directedby]

And another.


http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.jpg


The new LY Dodge Challenger is planned for the 2007-2008 calendar year. LY is the platform designator for the second-generation LX cars (we know it's an unfortunate designation). The Challenger may ride a shorter wheelbase to decrease weight, but on the other hand, it may simply be a two-door variant, much as the Charger was a two-door version of the Coronet. On the other hand, the concept car has a 116 inch wheelbase, while the other LXs use a 120 inch wheelbase.

There are rumors that the new 392 Hemi crate engine, designed for racing, will go along with the new Dodge Challenger body. The 392 is apparently a racing-only engine in current form, not a production design, but a lower-power version may well be made for production and appear in the Challenger. The Challenger concept car to be shown at NAIAS (Detroit, January 2006; the Camaro will also be shown) uses, not surprisingly, the SRT-8 6.1 liter engine.

The LY series will be interesting for a number of reasons; for one, Chrysler reportedly has much more control over the engineering than they did with the LX, so more divergence of Mercedes may be expected in some areas, and the tuning and interior design may be different (though we would not expect any radical changes; it appears that the Magnum/Charger and 300 interiors are being standardized throughout the car lines).

[Big House]

Game over for us N\A guys. That little bas-terd is going to haul azz a long way...if the price don't keep it out of reach of us mortals that can afford one.

[Mike Poore]

Concept photo I saw a few months back:

Edit: here's the photo:

http://common.weblogsinc.com/common/images/0039361835960125.JPG?0.5077645 987899533

Holy Batmobile, Robin, that thing's SENSATIONAL! :eek:

Talk about retro! I'm thinking they could lose the hood scoops, though. :D

[blackf0rk]

They'll mess it up when it comes to production - they always do.

[TripleTransAm]

There are rumors that the new 392 Hemi crate engine,


Man, they are milking this nostalgia thing to the MAX (Wedge). :P




Chrysler reportedly has much more control over the engineering than they did with the LX, so more divergence of Mercedes may be expected in some areas,

From an engineering perspective, this is a bit disturbing. From a quality perspective, this might be a good thing for them, based on what I'm hearing about Mercedes quality lately.

[TripleTransAm]

Shoot, I had to shift more in my 5 speed Honda Accord than I did with my 6 speed Z28.

Not more than half an hour ago, I made the final drive of the year in my 1998 WS6 6-speed for 2005, consisting of the 2 mile roundtrip drive down to the base of the plateau on which I live to tank up for the winter slumber before returning home. Moments earlier, I made the same drive with my '78 T/A automatic.

It's absolute childs play to row that 6-speed's shifter on my WS6. I have to add that everything on the car is stock... many opt (in fine lemming fashion) for short shifters without really considering if they really have a case for needing one, and end up hitting wrong gears at very wrong times (the famous 1st-2nd-1st upshift at WOT?) or working up a very sore arm or just getting their hand pulpified by added vibrations. The only scenario where it can get annoying over an automatic is stop-and-go traffic on a slight incline. In that case, I would probably have opted for a gear ratio change, but even with my commutes climbing bridges and on/offramps, I still say I had more of a headache with the 5-speed in my Civic than what's in my WS6 (and I thought the 5-speed in the Civic was pretty good, as long as you weren't running below the fuel cutoff RPM of 1500 - too high in my opinion).

Now, compare all this with the 4-speed 1978 Camaro Z/28 that I test drove for a friend this summer. My buddy summed it up best by calling it a milk truck. :lol:


Side note about fuel cutoffs: I think I've pretty much figured out the surging at 1500 RPM under engine braking in my Marauders is due to the engine fuel cutoff being set to 1500 RPM per that Ford fuel injection link posted earlier (why so high? My WS6 is at 1000 RPM, my GTA is similar). I suspect converting the Marauder to a manual tranny would make for very annoying drivetrain behaviour at those RPMs under deceleration unless there's a way to tweak this in the calibrations!

[TripleTransAm]

Here's another link with some more pics. These show the concept with a grille similar to that on the Charger.

I still like it!

http://www.autoweek.com/images/news/103629

http://autoweek.com/files/weekart/2005/1121/challenger_rear.jpg

[Big House]

i love the fact that it is a 2 door fire breathing beast...what i don'tlike that it is a Dodge...notto mentionthat Orange one in the photo is not as impressive as the concept pic...maybe in black....maybe:rolleyes:

[Shankin]

I love the way it looks! Maybe an old school pistol grip 6 speed and some sort of cool woodgrain steering wheel to match!!!!

[TripleTransAm]

I love the way it looks! Maybe an old school pistol grip 6 speed and some sort of cool woodgrain steering wheel to match!!!!


Just what I'd want, a face full of splinters when the airbag goes off. :P

[Joe Walsh]

Game over for us N\A guys. That little bas-terd is going to haul azz a long way...if the price don't keep it out of reach of us mortals that can afford one.

YEP! I'm gonna get BLOWN as soon as I can scrape up some $$$ for a S/C...
I see Gordon, Mark, Charlie and Bob running low 13s down into the LOW 12s and I get S/C envy!
BTW: I LOVE that new Challenger! If they build it, WITH a 6 speed SRT8 option, I'm going to take a serious look at my first DCM product purchase...

[StevenJ]

Concept photo I saw a few months back:

http://sports.autoblog.com/entry/1234000013051179/

2 doors... this should address all those complaining about the Charger being a 4 door. You know they say about "Money talks..." and "BS..." etc.etc... if there really IS a market for 2 door performance coupes, now there will be no excuse. If the car DOESN'T sell, it'll be a big blow to the egos of those who p*ssed and moaned about a 4 door Charger. End of story.

Edit: here's the photo:

http://common.weblogsinc.com/common/images/0039361835960125.JPG?0.5077645 987899533
Burningman made that photochop. That dude is freaking amazing. He hangs out at the Mustang Source.


YEP! I'm gonna get BLOWN as soon as I can scrape up some $$$ for a S/C...
I see Gordon, Mark, Charlie and Bob running low 13s down into the LOW 12s and I get S/C envy!
BTW: I LOVE that new Challenger! If they build it, WITH a 6 speed SRT8 option, I'm going to take a serious look at my first DCM product purchase...

Something about that doesnt sound right! j/k :D

[Vortex]

Here's another link with some more pics. These show the concept with a grille similar to that on the Charger.

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103629

That is a great looking car. I assume hemi powered. Ok, now we have the Challenger, the new Mustang, I think a new Camaro is coming. Ford probably wont go with more than one retro looking car though. If they did, Id like to see some sort of 73-74 Torino or Montego GT fastback myself based on the MM mechanicals. If they can make a two door CV convertible, they make this.

[teamrope]

I wonder if the dodgecallenger.net domain name is taken.....:cool:

[FordNut]

That is a sweet looking car. Either version. They gotta shed that butt-ugly grille they're putting on all their new cars.

[RCSignals]

I get the feeling that there is an awful lot of whishful car mag writer talk going on here. about the car, and especially about using the crate 392 Hemi for a production street car.

It would be nice if DCX builds this car, good for competition in the market....maybe.
(But then it would have been nice if Ford built the '49 concept, and the 427 concept too............)

Considering DCX hard line that they will NOT build two door coupes, because there is no market for them and nobody wants them, (they say), I'm going to take a wait and see attitude for now.

I also do not see the parent German company giving up as much 'control' over the Chrysler division as many would like them to.........at least not without divesting themselves from the Chysler division.

[Blue03]

My first glance caused me to think Cuda as well and not Challenger but thats ok. I can also see some Challenger it. I still think that the 99 Charger concept looked real good and much better than the current one. Could it be that someone at DCM is actually listening? The black one and the copper one in the trees also look real good to me. The ones in the sketches look too pancaked for me. But can you imagine 425HP in a lighter smaller 300C, It should be quick! Just my 02 on it.

[JMan]

Considering DCX hard line that they will NOT build two door coupes, because there is no market for them and nobody wants them, (they say), I'm going to take a wait and see attitude for now.

I also do not see the parent German company giving up as much 'control' over the Chrysler division as many would like them to.........at least not without divesting themselves from the Chysler division.

When at lunch with a former DCX rep. a couple of years ago, I jokingly asked if they could utter the "C" word (Chrysler) at work. He replied, "No problem, the Chrysler is silent in German!".
:lol:

True story!
J

[grampaws]

Not being a real chrysler fan I have to admit ...
They have kept their finger on the pulse of their
customers better than GM and FORD...and if
that concept looks anything like the production
model It'll be one of the few CHryslers that would
warrant a second look....:o

[Bradley G]

I'll believe it, when I sees it.
My take on Chrysler; they will figure a way, to fudge it up.
I hope they prove me wrong.

[jgc61sr2002]

Never cared much for Chrysler products. But I could get to like the Challenger.:D

[Motorhead350]

Wow now thats a new car I'm actually excited about

[stevengerard]

I'd go for it in a heart beat, great looking car, probably a Hemi and 6-speed -Awesome, but I'd bet it won't come with the dual hood scoops, side gils, low front end air dam and certainly not the hood pins.

[marauder307]

Got this from a posting on chargerforums.com. This is REALLY what a Challenger looks like; the concept looks like a takeoff on the 1971 model, to be precise. That photoshopped one in the first post here is actually from a 1971 Barracuda (fender "gills", cheese-grater grill). You can see this 'un's got the Charger SRT-8 rims on it, and all the styling cues from the Challenger. Wonder if they'll put out a "Vanishing Point" version?

I've been toying hard with the idea of giving up the Hulk for a Charger R/T...too emotionally attached to it to part with it completely though. The Honolulu PD has got an informal BOLO out for Marauders; they buy 'em and put 'em on duty. I suppose I could get a premium for the Hulk, but I'm pretty well conflicted on the idea of parting with it...

[RCSignals]

Got this from a posting on chargerforums.com. This is REALLY what a Challenger looks like; ...........


Iteresting pictures, but looking closely, something says 'photoshop'

[TripleTransAm]

If the company survives, GM might actually be posting a candidate for this market segment. Wow. GM being in line with automotive market trends... will wonders cease?
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103646

[MAD-3R]

If the company survives, GM might actually be posting a candidate for this market segment. Wow. GM being in line with automotive market trends... will wonders cease?
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103646
Any pics of the camero?

[RCSignals]

If the company survives, GM might actually be posting a candidate for this market segment. Wow. GM being in line with automotive market trends... will wonders cease?
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103646

Interesting. Hopefully it is real to move beyond a concept. A concept is just a concept, after all.

[Geo]

Shankin: the pictures of the real life Challenger concept car in that burnt orange color among the trees and bushes does have a pistol grip shifter as the write-up suggest.

Teamrope: dodgechallenger.com is taken as is dodgechallenger.net

challengerforums.com is gone to but challengerforums.net is available

this info available from www.whois.com

when you enter the site, later click on the WHO IS link on the bottom.

enjoy

[TRP460]

Iteresting pictures, but looking closely, something says 'photoshop'

I'm not so sure........here's close-ups of those same photos from another source............

http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html

[Dan]

I like this car from two points of view.

First, it should get Ford off its a$$ and get us some retro muscle cars from them, too.

Second, it's a cool car, no matter how you slice it. Only those of us who are s/c'd will be able to touch a stock one and none of us will be able to touch a charged one.

I'm glad the MM is almost paid for. My wife is going to need a new car pretty soon. :)

Best,

Dan

[FastMerc]

Well if that is it it had better say CUDA 1 lets see what actual production looks like 2 price!!! I bet 45.000 to start?:D

[Donny Carlson]

Looks like the spy photos were real:

The Challeger Concept:

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743501856_155_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743501856_155_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743504925_840_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743504925_840_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743505036_140_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743505036_140_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743510316_199_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743510316_199_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743514869_174_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743514869_174_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743518026_161_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743518026_161_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743520464_189_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743520464_189_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743523923_979_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743523923_979_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743526031_149_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743526031_149_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743530682_200_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743530682_200_jpg.jpg )

[Rider90]

From the side, it looks like the Camaro concept...

[DOHCMERC]

Well if that is it it had better say CUDA 1 lets see what actual production looks like 2 price!!! I bet 45.000 to start?:D

I'm betting it'll be within a few hundred of the Mustang;

Low 20's for a V6

Mid to high 20's for a 5.7...........comparable to a GT

40's for the SRT....................as will be the Shelby.


And, yes, I may be a deserter when that bad boy comes out.

[RCSignals]

I'm not so sure........here's close-ups of those same photos from another source............

http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html

That front view is UGLY :puke:

[CBT]

I can dig it.

[Marauder2005]

Oh.....my......god........ I want one, I want one NOW!

[Skiordie53]

Once I Payoff the Chris Craft I should be in the market for another toy. I miss My Formula, this may be a great replacement.

[rauder775]

Man, I love that Challenger. 6.1 hemi, retro looks and 6 speed!!! Will look great beside my MM

[Vortex]

Looks like the spy photos were real:

The Challeger Concept:

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743501856_155_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743501856_155_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743504925_840_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743504925_840_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743505036_140_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743505036_140_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743510316_199_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743510316_199_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743514869_174_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743514869_174_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743518026_161_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743518026_161_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743520464_189_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743520464_189_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743523923_979_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743523923_979_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743526031_149_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743526031_149_jpg.jpg )

http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743530682_200_jpg.jpg (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/123020051743530682_200_jpg.jpg )


These pictures look like high quality fakes to me, check out the grille and headlights. Regardless, its a great looking car.

[TripleTransAm]

Those are definitely digitally-enhanced photos. While they manage to look realistic in print (see this month's various magazines) due to resolution limitations, on screen they are definitely faked to some degree. Whether it's an adaptation of some cobbled-up design mule with some conceptual design cues, or outright digital fakery, there is definitely *something* that has been done to those photos.

It does look great, in my opinion. I thought the new Charger was averagely handsome (except for the back end... doesn't do it for me) but this one has all the right curves. Should sell well. Say what you will about the whole retro styling thing, but look at how many of us were drooling over these images? Perhaps this was the intention: to gauge public reaction to a new Challenger.

That leaves pretty much only General Motors in the "we don't believe retro will sell" corner. Then again, with their share prices lately, I don't think they can afford internet service anymore and are probably oblivious to current trends and styles. I hope they do better with their next GTO (if there is one...).


That front view is UGLY :puke:

I'm not surprised to see this response. :P I'm betting the concept is missing one item to make it the most beautiful thing you've ever seen, concept or not. :D

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82 87&d=1136181054

[whoskal]

looks like hell on wheels!! :bounce::bounce::bounce:Love to take it for ride!!!!:burnout:

[G-Man]

Well if that is it it had better say CUDA 1 lets see what actual production looks like 2 price!!! I bet 45.000 to start?:D

I agree. That thing screams Hemi-Cuda.

[rookie1]

It's in this months Car and Driver

[cyclone03]

If they also do a convertable Mustang sales will take a huge hit.


Gota admit it likes like a 'Cuda,and that aint bad...

[Donny Carlson]

Those are definitely digitally-enhanced photos. While they manage to look realistic in print (see this month's various magazines) due to resolution limitations, on screen they are definitely faked to some degree. Whether it's an adaptation of some cobbled-up design mule with some conceptual design cues, or outright digital fakery, there is definitely *something* that has been done to those photos.

I think they look pretty close to the spy photos published recently:

http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/10429_VZXKXHPOWHZRB.jpg (javascript:window.close();)
http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/10430_CMDHFGBHDXWPH.jpg (javascript:window.close();)

The interior shots are clearly concept car, I don't think the production dash will look much like it. I like the retro interior look, though.
http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/2008%20Challenger%20003_jpg.jp g (http://www.dodgeboy.net/news/challenger/images/2008%20Challenger%20003_jpg.jp g)

[TripleTransAm]

I think they look pretty close to the spy photos published recently

Doesn't mean the car in those spy shots can actually move under its own power. Which would make it impossible to get the action shots we see in the magazines. Which would necessitate a little photochopping of whatever vehicle WAS actually posing in the dynamic shots.

[Vortex]

They are going to sell the hell out of those. All it needs are zoomie pipes.

[Donny Carlson]

That leaves pretty much only General Motors in the "we don't believe retro will sell" corner. Then again, with their share prices lately, I don't think they can afford internet service anymore and are probably oblivious to current trends and styles. I hope they do better with their next GTO (if there is one...).

Dear Ford Executives:

Please build this:

http://photos.velocityjournal.com/images/full/2002/s2002010901/fd2002fortyniner4901.jpg (http://photos.velocityjournal.com/images/full/2002/s2002010901/fd2002fortyniner4901.jpg)

http://photos.velocityjournal.com/images/full/2002/s2002010901/fd2002fortyniner4902.jpg (http://photos.velocityjournal.com/images/full/2002/s2002010901/fd2002fortyniner4902.jpg)

http://photos.velocityjournal.com/images/full/2002/s2002010901/fd2002fortyniner4903.jpg (http://photos.velocityjournal.com/images/full/2002/s2002010901/fd2002fortyniner4903.jpg)

Oh, btw, word has it the Chevy version of the Kappa platform (Solstice, Sky) is likely this:
http://images.automotive.com/cob/factory_automotive/images/features/auto_shows/2005_LAAS/_Chevrolet_Nomad_concept_front .jpg (http://www.automotive.com/features/auto-shows/59/2005/laas/-Chevrolet-Nomad-concept-rear.html)



http://images.automotive.com/cob/factory_automotive/images/features/auto_shows/2005_LAAS/_Chevrolet_Nomad_concept_rear. jpg (http://www.automotive.com/features/auto-shows/59/2005/laas/1955-Chrysler-C300--front.html)

Except they've dropped the wagon concept for a vert. The HHR is selling well, and what I've read is execs think bringing this (the Nomad) out on the Kappa platform will hurt HHR sales. Same source says it will have the turbo ecotech 2.6 (265 hp) going in the Sky Redline.

This has pissed off some of the GM fans, who point to this Nomad concept, born about the same time as the SSR concept, that promised a full sized car (built on the previous generation Impala frame, rwd) with a 400 HP V8 engine. It was, of course, ****canned.

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1990-1999/1999-Chevrolet-Nomad-Concept-RA-study-1024x768.jpg

[TripleTransAm]

This has pissed off some of the GM fans, who point to this Nomrad concept, born about the same time as the SSR concept, that promised a full sized car (built on the previous generation Impala frame, rwd) with a 400 HP V8 engine. It was, of course, ****canned.


Large rwd V8 hotrod wagons will never sell...

(shh, don't tell the tens of thousands of Chrysler Magnum owners... :lol: )

Too bad GM can't make a living out of providing their COMPETITORS with concepts, 'cause they do it so well. According to GM, pony cars don't sell, muscle wagons don't sell, muscle RWD sedans don't sell, retro muscle coupes don't sell, etc.etc...

[LVMarauder]

after I part with my marauder in 07-08 ish this will be my next ride, if it is confirmed.

[DOHCMERC]

Dear Ford Executives:

Please build this:

http://photos.velocityjournal.com/images/full/2002/s2002010901/fd2002fortyniner4901.jpg (http://photos.velocityjournal.com/images/full/2002/s2002010901/fd2002fortyniner4901.jpg)





Oh, btw, word has it the Chevy version of the Kappa platform (Solstice, Sky) is likely this:
http://images.automotive.com/cob/factory_automotive/images/features/auto_shows/2005_LAAS/_Chevrolet_Nomad_concept_front .jpg (http://www.automotive.com/features/auto-shows/59/2005/laas/-Chevrolet-Nomad-concept-rear.html)





Except they've dropped the wagon concept for a vert. The HHR is selling well, and what I've read is execs think bringing this (the Nomad) out on the Kappa platform will hurt HHR sales. Same source says it will have the turbo ecotech 2.6 (265 hp) going in the Sky Redline.

This has pissed off some of the GM fans, who point to this Nomrad concept, born about the same time as the SSR concept, that promised a full sized car (built on the previous generation Impala frame, rwd) with a 400 HP V8 engine. It was, of course, ****canned.



With all due respect, those are some FUGLY cars.........but I see the SSR in your sig/avatar so I can see where your tastes fall....like the latest T-bird??

[RCSignals]

Those are definitely digitally-enhanced photos. While they manage to look realistic in print (see this month's various magazines) due to resolution limitations, on screen they are definitely faked to some degree. Whether it's an adaptation of some cobbled-up design mule with some conceptual design cues, or outright digital fakery, there is definitely *something* that has been done to those photos.

It does look great, in my opinion. I thought the new Charger was averagely handsome (except for the back end... doesn't do it for me) but this one has all the right curves. Should sell well. Say what you will about the whole retro styling thing, but look at how many of us were drooling over these images? Perhaps this was the intention: to gauge public reaction to a new Challenger.

That leaves pretty much only General Motors in the "we don't believe retro will sell" corner. Then again, with their share prices lately, I don't think they can afford internet service anymore and are probably oblivious to current trends and styles. I hope they do better with their next GTO (if there is one...).



I'm not surprised to see this response. :P I'm betting the concept is missing one item to make it the most beautiful thing you've ever seen, concept or not. :D

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82 87&d=1136181054


Thank you, those pictures are certainly, to put it nicely, 'digitally-enhanced' photos.


and.......nice touch but that front view is still ugly :lol:


I still have not heard or read any retraction from DCX that they will not be building any two door coupe type cars.

How would that one look with two more doors?

[Dan]

Steve,

CD admits that it modifies photos but it never does so to the point where it changes the car. They have been adding "motion" to cars for as long as I have been a reader. (Over 20 years.)

Best,

Dan

[SID210SA]

I did not see it posted yet but according to my issue of Car and Driver: base price $35,000.

[SID210SA]

0-60=4.5 sec
standing 1/4 mile=13.0 sec
top speed=174 mph
4100 lbs
6-speed manual
pushrod 16 valve V8 iron block and aluminum heads, port fuel inj
370 c.i. 6059 cc
425 bph @ 6000 rpm
420 lb-ft @4800 rpm
14 mpg city
20 mpg hwy

all info from Car and Driver

[RCSignals]

0-60=4.5 sec
standing 1/4 mile=13.0 sec
top speed=174 mph
4100 lbs
6-speed manual
pushrod 16 valve V8 iron block and aluminum heads, port fuel inj
370 c.i. 6059 cc
425 bph @ 6000 rpm
420 lb-ft @4800 rpm
14 mpg city
20 mpg hwy

all info from Car and Driver

and since it doesn't exist, the performance numbers are guestimates.

[RCSignals]

Autoweek featured this concept, as well as an 'Imperial' concept. (They are more realistic in talking about it being a concept, than other the magazines that give you an impression the Challenger is a done deal)



The Imperial is butt ugly. Much worse than the 300. the front end is absolutely blunt, very big truck-ish.

Looking at some pictures of various cars from the past, DCX has made the side profile of the Challenger concept look more like an early Camaro/Firebird than the original Challenger. The side line crease of the original Challenger has a more abrupt curve at the kick up than the new concept.

[jabird56]

Here's another link with some more pics. These show the concept with a grille similar to that on the Charger.

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103629

Link no workee workee..... Got a statement saying image not available