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shakes_26
01-12-2006, 06:41 AM
So I searched the threads, nothing, I searched the net...ugh.:alone:
Anyway, just checking to see if anyone knows for sure, that the Focus SVT FP is a straight swap, or is it the pump only to swap over, the bucket stays (if you've seen it you know what I mean)? DO the wire harness' match up to the Stock Marauder FP? Whats involved once the tank is open?
Inquiring minds want to know.:confused:
thanks.
DEFYANT
01-12-2006, 06:43 AM
Subscribing.....
RoyLPita
01-12-2006, 07:03 AM
I was told that the internal guts of the pump are interchangeable. The Focus mounts the pump from the top. Ours is mounted on the side near the rear pumpkin.
MI2QWK4U
01-12-2006, 07:18 AM
Easiest way to know for sure, Call Lidio, he was the first to use the focus pump in our Marauders. I thought it was a straight swap out, I do know that you can do it without dropping the tank, just run it till the tank is close to empty. call Lid at 586-463-0010.
Haggis
01-12-2006, 07:18 AM
So I searched the threads, nothing, I searched the net...ugh.:alone:
Anyway, just checking to see if anyone knows for sure, that the Focus SVT FP is a straight swap, or is it the pump only to swap over, the bucket stays (if you've seen it you know what I mean)? DO the wire harness' match up to the Stock Marauder FP? Whats involved once the tank is open?
Inquiring minds want to know.:confused:
thanks.
I had the SVT Focus fuel pump put into my car. Even though I did not do it myself I watched as close as possible. They removed the pump from the housing unit after they dropped the tank and it seemed to be a straight swap, the wiring harness matched up and it only took a half hour to do. I even had them install a boost-a-pump.
shakes_26
01-12-2006, 07:46 AM
good info keep it coming.
cyclone03
01-12-2006, 12:52 PM
I'm going to mis name the part I'm sure,but.....
I thinkyou have to change thepump driveror what ever it's called.
Ithinkthe Focus pumps draw a higher amperage than the stock pump.
Don't kill me ,ask the experts before you hurt something.
shakes_26
01-12-2006, 12:56 PM
I beleive thats what happens when you run the DUAL SVT Focus Pump rig some guys talk about. It draws 40amps, the stock circuit is rated at 30Amps.
But if I go that extreme (Dual Focus), I'll go to the Cobra Twin pump, its doesn't have a bypass at 85psi and draws less current. Plus with the BAP it can deliver ungodly amounts of fuel.
I'm going to mis name the part I'm sure,but.....
I thinkyou have to change thepump driveror what ever it's called.
Ithinkthe Focus pumps draw a higher amperage than the stock pump.
Don't kill me ,ask the experts before you hurt something.
Run dual cobra pumps with a BAP. More than enough fuel.
I switched over to dual Focus Pumps with a BAP. Pain in the A$$, I dont even want to talk about the ordeal I went through.
Cobra pumps are so much easier.
Cobra25
01-12-2006, 05:00 PM
I my self was thinking of the Focus SVT Pump. A few of my friends have the Cobra Fuel pump. Which is better for our Marauders and what is the difference in price? Someone told me if the car is under 500 RWHP the SVT Focus pump is good & if over 500 RWHP use the Cobra pump. Any truth about this?
MI2QWK4U
01-12-2006, 07:01 PM
Run dual cobra pumps with a BAP. More than enough fuel.
I switched over to dual Focus Pumps with a BAP. Pain in the A$$, I dont even want to talk about the ordeal I went through.
Cobra pumps are so much easier.
Do you think the problems were inherant to your blower setup? Just about everyone with a Trilogy has had good luck with the Focus setup.
MarauderMark
01-12-2006, 07:15 PM
Run dual cobra pumps with a BAP. More than enough fuel.
I switched over to dual Focus Pumps with a BAP.
Me too:up::D
looking97233
01-12-2006, 07:30 PM
This was written for cobra owners but some good info in it...
http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/general-info/BAPsvtFocus_kens.pdf
Rod.
shakes_26
01-12-2006, 09:47 PM
I've read the Kenne Bell thing, after that you'd think the Focus pump is the Anti-Christ. I beleive all the problems lay with the cobbled together dual pump combo for the FOcus pump.
The SVT Focus pump runs $95-110 (depends on your Ford parts discount), the cobra twin pump, I think I saw a price of over $500....needless to say. I'm not runnign lean now, and have room left on the BAP, and the stock pump. But having some other things done and can get the labor for a deal..sooo....the Focus pump with BAP it is.
MI2QWK4U
01-12-2006, 09:53 PM
I've read the Kenne Bell thing, after that you'd think the Focus pump is the Anti-Christ. I beleive all the problems lay with the cobbled together dual pump combo for the FOcus pump.
The SVT Focus pump runs $95-110 (depends on your Ford parts discount), the cobra twin pump, I think I saw a price of over $500....needless to say. I'm not runnign lean now, and have room left on the BAP, and the stock pump. But having some other things done and can get the labor for a deal..sooo....the Focus pump with BAP it is.
Thats the combo I am running. Focus pump and boost a pump with over half left on the dial. I am currently dynoing anywhere between 510-520 RWHP. My air/fuel is perfect and I have never experienced a fuel starvation problem.
MikesMerc
01-14-2006, 05:17 PM
I'm also running the Focus pump with BAP and I have plenty of headroom even with the NOS flowing. I'm hitting almost 540rwhp spraying and I have my BAP set less than mid way.
Do you think the problems were inherant to your blower setup? Just about everyone with a Trilogy has had good luck with the Focus setup.
A single focus pump with a BAP is a good solution. The problem is, Roots car put less of a demand on the fuel system that the centrifugal cars.
So, assuming you are running dual pumps, you start by buying the dual cobra pump assembly from ford which costs like $500 plus dollars since the latest price hike. Then you upgrade to Focus pumps for another $200 plus dollars.
The pickup assemblies of the 2 style pumps are completely different and require modification to make work. Then you have to run a 10 gauge wire from the battery to the trunk to supply the fuel pump driver module.
Its really stupid to do all this.
If youre gonna run dual pumps, go Cobra pumps with BAP.
MI2QWK4U
01-15-2006, 08:49 PM
A single focus pump with a BAP is a good solution. The problem is, Roots car put less of a demand on the fuel system that the centrifugal cars.
So, assuming you are running dual pumps, you start by buying the dual cobra pump assembly from ford which costs like $500 plus dollars since the latest price hike. Then you upgrade to Focus pumps for another $200 plus dollars.
The pickup assemblies of the 2 style pumps are completely different and require modification to make work. Then you have to run a 10 gauge wire from the battery to the trunk to supply the fuel pump driver module.
Its really stupid to do all this.
If youre gonna run dual pumps, go Cobra pumps with BAP.
Ok, that explains why the focus pump/BAP combo is sufficient with the BAP at only half way, and my setup has never had a fuel delivery problem. Thanks for the answer, I didnt know that the Centrifugal blowers were more demanding in the fuel department.
shakes_26
01-15-2006, 10:12 PM
Good stuff to know. Thank you Zack.
I got the Focus pump in the other day, running smooth! Just need a few more runs on the rollers to make any necessary tweaks.
Thanks to everyone for their input. I appreciate it.
A single focus pump with a BAP is a good solution. The problem is, Roots car put less of a demand on the fuel system that the centrifugal cars.
So, assuming you are running dual pumps, you start by buying the dual cobra pump assembly from ford which costs like $500 plus dollars since the latest price hike. Then you upgrade to Focus pumps for another $200 plus dollars.
The pickup assemblies of the 2 style pumps are completely different and require modification to make work. Then you have to run a 10 gauge wire from the battery to the trunk to supply the fuel pump driver module.
Its really stupid to do all this.
If youre gonna run dual pumps, go Cobra pumps with BAP.
shakes_26
01-23-2006, 11:52 AM
Just to close the loop.
We set my car back on the dyno this weekend, with the idea of just checking A/F ratio and the fuel pump operation. 8 hours later.... thats another story for another day.
In any case, the Focus SVT pump works as described. Not only did it deliver 90psi (under some whip cracking from the BAP), but the duty cycle dropped, and more importantly my A/F ratio was like a carpenters wet dream....flat as a board through 6100rpm (where my shift points are set).
So for about $100 retail plus install, I'd say its worth it. Remember this is the single Focus SVT pump vs the OEM Marauder pump.
Again I'm running the 3.0 pulley with 39# injectors, Trilogy, full exhaust.
If you're gonna go all out for broke, then go right to the cobra twin pumps, but if you want a little extra breathing room and your under the 500hp area, then I'd say this is the way to go ($ vs benefit).
PS some say this pump is the same as the Walboro 255, I don't think so.
Cobra25
01-23-2006, 12:09 PM
I purchased my Focus SVT Pump this morning. One thing I though was interesting is that the Ford dealer told me the the Marauder fuel pump is the same part # as the Mercury Grand Marquis and Cost around $240 dollars.
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