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MI2QWK4U
02-16-2006, 08:38 PM
The 2006 Impala SS is the fastest Car to ever wear the Impala SS nameplate...



1964 Chevrolet Impala SS 327 Coupe Base price $2947 ($2839 for six-cylinder Impala SS coupe)
Vehicle layout Front engine, RWD, 2-door, 6-pass coupe
Engine 5.3L (327ci)/300 hp (gross)/360 lb-ft OHV 16-valve V-8
Transmissions 2-spd auto or 3- or 4-spd man
Curb weight 3660 lb
Wheelbase 119.0 in
Length x Width x Height 209.9 x 79.6 x 55.1 in
0-60 mph 9.0 sec (MT est)
1/4 mile 16.8 sec @ 83.0 mph (MT est) Sales 185,325 SS I-6 and V-8 coupes and convertibles of 889,600 total Impalas

1996 Chevrolet Impala SS Sedan Base price $24,405
Vehicle layout Front engine, RWD, 4-door, 5-pass sedan
Engine 5.7L (350ci)/260 hp/330 lb-ft OHV 16-valve V-8
Transmission 4-speed automatic
Curb weight 4036 lb
Wheelbase 115.9 in
Length x Width x Height 214.1 x 77.5 x 54.7 in
0-60 mph 7.3 sec
1/4 mile 15.6 sec @ 90.1 mph
Sales 41,941 of 69,581 total Caprice/Impalas


2006 Chevrolet Impala SS Sedan
Base price $27,800 (est)
Vehicle layout Front engine, FWD, 4-door, 5-pass sedan
Engine 5.3L (325ci)/303 hp/323 lb-ft OHV 16-valve V-8
Transmission 4-speed automatic
Curb weight 3600 lb (est)
Wheelbase 110.5 in
Length x Width x Height 198.3 x 71.6 x 55.9 in
0-60 mph 6.0 sec (est)
1/4 mile 14.1 sec @ 98.1 mph (est)
Sales Projection 20,000 of 200,000 Impalas



Model Year: 2006
Make: Chevrolet
Model: Impala
Style: SS
Drive Type: FWD
Transmission Type: 4-speed automatic
Displacement (liters): 5.3
Engine Type: V8
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 303@5600
Torque (ft-lbs @ rpm): 323@4400
Braking System: 4-wheel disc w/ABS
Steering System: Power rack and pinioin
Suspension Type (front): Independent with stabilizer bar
Suspension Type (rear): Independent with stabilizer bar
Tire Size (front): 235/50R18
Tire Size (rear): 235/50R18
Tire Brand: Goodyear
Tire Model: Eagle RS-A
Curb Weight (lbs): 3712.4
Recommended Fuel: 87-91
Fuel Tank Capacity (gal): 17.5
EPA Fuel Economy (mpg): 18 City 28 Highway

Acceleration: Good shifts at redline. Strong pull thoughout the rev range. Throaty V8 sound. Surprising lack of torque steer.
Braking: Subtle ABS noise and vibration. Soft pedal, not much feedback. ABS cycling too much comprimises stopping power.
Handling: Stable, but has lots of body roll.

TripleTransAm
02-16-2006, 10:24 PM
They seem to be comparing base engines only. I don't see any 409s or 427s in there. I still doubt they'd be as quick as the newest car, though. It's no secret I think the LSx powertrains are da bomb.

I took a long hard look at the SS at this year's Autoshow after reading all you had to say (type) about your own car. I'll be following that model very very closely.

MI2QWK4U
02-16-2006, 10:26 PM
They seem to be comparing base engines only. I don't see any 409s or 427s in there. I still doubt they'd be as quick as the newest car, though. It's no secret I think the LSx powertrains are da bomb.

I took a long hard look at the SS at this year's Autoshow after reading all you had to say (type) about your own car. I'll be following that model very very closely.


While I was impressed with the new SS, I will be watching closely for that new model in a couple years that will have all this power and be rear wheel drive again.

O's Fan Rich
02-17-2006, 04:51 AM
Personally, I like the " (est) " after the numbers. That always impresses me.



Your results may vary..... offer not good in Alaska ,Hawaii, or TimBuKTu

Mike Poore
02-17-2006, 04:53 AM
While I was impressed with the new SS, I will be watching closely for that new model in a couple years that will have all this power and be rear wheel drive again.

It's interesting, Dave, how far we've come in auto design. I looked up the "67 Impala SS 427, thinking, "no way", but your new one will smoke it, big time.

Perhaps tires can explain some of it, or weight, (4,280 lbs) but that new Impala will haul a$$.

I think you made a great choice in the '06 Impala SS.


Here's the link from the '67 article I found.
http://www.55-57chevys.com/coccc/articles/679/67asty1.html

martyo
02-17-2006, 05:59 AM
Did anyone else ever see the Overhaulin' where they did (I think) the '65?

Man that car was sweet!

Black 04
02-17-2006, 06:16 AM
Did anyone else ever see the Overhaulin' where they did (I think) the '65?

Man that car was sweet!

Marty,
That was a 65 Impala SS. That car was way to sweet, I always liked the 65 body style.

jerrym3
02-17-2006, 06:44 AM
I'm not buying the 1964 327/300 1/4 mile times.

I had a "beat to death" 57 Chev 283/220 hp, and I could turn high 15s. I also owned/raced a 68 Cyclone 302/230 hp and turned just about the same time.

There's no way that a 327/300 Impala would lose to those two cars.

Unless they tested a PowerGlide car.

TripleTransAm
02-17-2006, 06:47 AM
Perhaps tires can explain some of it, or weight, (4,280 lbs) but that new Impala will haul a$$.

Definitely those items play a part, but the nature of the powerband has a lot to do with it as well.

Old tech engines usually had to give something up: low end or high end. Boost the high end, you usually lost a little low end. Nowadays, the well designed motors will deliver both without compromise. My '98 WS6 always blows me away with its totally flat torque curve between just under 2000 RPM all the way to around 5300 RPM, and the slope on either side of that plateau isn't steep either.

If I want a bit more acceleration out of that car, I don't really even need to apply more throttle opening... I can just keep it in a lower gear a bit longer, the car will just keep pulling hard until I want to flatten out its speed, at which point I can upshift. Less stress on the motor, and my MPG numbers don't even flinch when I want to hear that V8 song now and again.

As I said, those LSx motors really have it together.

Paul T. Casey
02-17-2006, 10:30 AM
I saw one of these new Impala SS machines go flying past me on the Alabama Autobahn a few days ago, got me thinking to go test drive one (no interest in buying yet). Speaking of sporty new cars, I had an '06 Lincoln LS for a loaner the other day. Not too bad. Pretty peppy, all the gadgets, V8 power, and my favorite that fancy automatic trans. that you can "slap shift." They call it TSS, and it's a blast. I was popping off gears with my thumb. A little bit of a lag, but still good, and no clutch to tire my old leg. I was also very impressed with the lack of torque steer. I haven't driven many FWD vehicles lately, but this one was pretty good. Still feels like it's pulling me though. Guess I'll stick with the Marauder.

Blackened300a
02-17-2006, 11:42 AM
IMO: Bring back the RWD platform and make it a little more sporty and chevy would have a winner,
They can keep the S/Ced honda accord wearing a bowtie that they are calling a SS

Eric91Z
02-17-2006, 11:47 AM
I saw one of these new Impala SS machines go flying past me on the Alabama Autobahn a few days ago, got me thinking to go test drive one (no interest in buying yet). Speaking of sporty new cars, I had an '06 Lincoln LS for a loaner the other day. Not too bad. Pretty peppy, all the gadgets, V8 power, and my favorite that fancy automatic trans. that you can "slap shift." They call it TSS, and it's a blast. I was popping off gears with my thumb. A little bit of a lag, but still good, and no clutch to tire my old leg. I was also very impressed with the lack of torque steer. I haven't driven many FWD vehicles lately, but this one was pretty good. Still feels like it's pulling me though. Guess I'll stick with the Marauder.

I thought the Lincoln LS was actually RWD, not FWD. If that is the one you were still talking about in regards to torque steer.

MI2QWK4U
02-17-2006, 11:55 AM
IMO: Bring back the RWD platform and make it a little more sporty and chevy would have a winner,
They can keep the S/Ced honda accord wearing a bowtie that they are calling a SS


Which one are you refering to? The older Impala SS with the supercharged V6? Those are the older platform. We are talking about the just released 2006 5.3L V8 Impala SS. People will learn to show the new Impala a little respect. It will smoke a stock Marauder, Charger, 300, Magnum in a heartbeat. Ask me how I know..... So even front wheel drive and its little Chevy bowtie, The SS will still beat a stock Marauder, it will even beat heavily modified Marauders short of having nitrous or a blower! I would call that a winner.

MarauderMarc
02-17-2006, 12:13 PM
I still think Chevy lost a few points bringing a FWD "muscle car" in an up and coming Hot Rod era. I know the Camaro will be sweet, but man did they ever ruin the Impala. Remember the mid-80s Novas???:puke:

chicago_cop
02-17-2006, 12:20 PM
The 2006 Impala SS is the fastest Car to ever wear the Impala SS nameplate...



1964 Chevrolet Impala SS 327 Coupe Base price $2947 ($2839 for six-cylinder Impala SS coupe)
Vehicle layout Front engine, RWD, 2-door, 6-pass coupe
Engine 5.3L (327ci)/300 hp (gross)/360 lb-ft OHV 16-valve V-8
Transmissions 2-spd auto or 3- or 4-spd man
Curb weight 3660 lb
Wheelbase 119.0 in
Length x Width x Height 209.9 x 79.6 x 55.1 in
0-60 mph 9.0 sec (MT est)
1/4 mile 16.8 sec @ 83.0 mph (MT est) Sales 185,325 SS I-6 and V-8 coupes and convertibles of 889,600 total Impalas

1996 Chevrolet Impala SS Sedan Base price $24,405
Vehicle layout Front engine, RWD, 4-door, 5-pass sedan
Engine 5.7L (350ci)/260 hp/330 lb-ft OHV 16-valve V-8
Transmission 4-speed automatic
Curb weight 4036 lb
Wheelbase 115.9 in
Length x Width x Height 214.1 x 77.5 x 54.7 in
0-60 mph 7.3 sec
1/4 mile 15.6 sec @ 90.1 mph
Sales 41,941 of 69,581 total Caprice/Impalas


2006 Chevrolet Impala SS Sedan
Base price $27,800 (est)
Vehicle layout Front engine, FWD, 4-door, 5-pass sedan
Engine 5.3L (325ci)/303 hp/323 lb-ft OHV 16-valve V-8
Transmission 4-speed automatic
Curb weight 3600 lb (est)
Wheelbase 110.5 in
Length x Width x Height 198.3 x 71.6 x 55.9 in
0-60 mph 6.0 sec (est)
1/4 mile 14.1 sec @ 98.1 mph (est)
Sales Projection 20,000 of 200,000 Impalas



Model Year: 2006
Make: Chevrolet
Model: Impala
Style: SS
Drive Type: FWD
Transmission Type: 4-speed automatic
Displacement (liters): 5.3
Engine Type: V8
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 303@5600
Torque (ft-lbs @ rpm): 323@4400
Braking System: 4-wheel disc w/ABS
Steering System: Power rack and pinioin
Suspension Type (front): Independent with stabilizer bar
Suspension Type (rear): Independent with stabilizer bar
Tire Size (front): 235/50R18
Tire Size (rear): 235/50R18
Tire Brand: Goodyear
Tire Model: Eagle RS-A
Curb Weight (lbs): 3712.4
Recommended Fuel: 87-91
Fuel Tank Capacity (gal): 17.5
EPA Fuel Economy (mpg): 18 City 28 Highway

Acceleration: Good shifts at redline. Strong pull thoughout the rev range. Throaty V8 sound. Surprising lack of torque steer.
Braking: Subtle ABS noise and vibration. Soft pedal, not much feedback. ABS cycling too much comprimises stopping power.
Handling: Stable, but has lots of body roll.


3600lbs VS 4200lbs a no brainer. minus 600lbs will make it fly. Chevy Still a Winner and a plus for Detroit Iron.

Blackened300a
02-17-2006, 12:29 PM
Which one are you refering to? The older Impala SS with the supercharged V6? Those are the older platform. We are talking about the just released 2006 5.3L V8 Impala SS. People will learn to show the new Impala a little respect. It will smoke a stock Marauder, Charger, 300, Magnum in a heartbeat. Ask me how I know..... So even front wheel drive and its little Chevy bowtie, The SS will still beat a stock Marauder, it will even beat heavily modified Marauders short of having nitrous or a blower! I would call that a winner.

Whoops My bad on the S/Ced part. I forgot they got smart and planted a V-8 in them, Just used to all of GM's S/Ced V-6 "Muscle Cars"
A new Impala will indeed smoke a stock Marauder, However I dont think Nitrous or a blower will be needed to take on a new SS. A Good tune, 4.10s,Torque Convertor and traction should put a new SS away.
As far as respect, I have respect for the Impala name and its history, Its the Design team at GM that have lost all respect for the Impala by putting out a ordinary looking sedan with a strong engine and making it FWD :shake:

merc6
02-17-2006, 12:32 PM
perfomance yes...looks of both the impala and monte carlo has fallen off fiercely imho

blackf0rk
02-17-2006, 12:32 PM
You forgot about the 2004-05 W-Body Impala SS.

merc6
02-17-2006, 12:35 PM
You forgot about the 2004-05 W-Body Impala SS. didn't think in belonged in comparison IMHO ;)

MI2QWK4U
02-17-2006, 01:45 PM
Whoops My bad on the S/Ced part. I forgot they got smart and planted a V-8 in them, Just used to all of GM's S/Ced V-6 "Muscle Cars"
A new Impala will indeed smoke a stock Marauder, However I dont think Nitrous or a blower will be needed to take on a new SS. A Good tune, 4.10s,Torque Convertor and traction should put a new SS away.
As far as respect, I have respect for the Impala name and its history, Its the Design team at GM that have lost all respect for the Impala by putting out a ordinary looking sedan with a strong engine and making it FWD :shake:


I agree. I think that it would enjoy a chip or reflash. The funny thing is, the SS feels real good bone stock, very torquey off the line and pulls like a freight train, other than mild torque steer, nothing negative. It reminded me of my first test drive on my Marauder, I LOVED the Marauder right away, it was sold before I drove it, but even my wife wondered why it wasnt gutsier off the line after watching the speed channel special where they smoked the tires at will. At least they ditched the 6 bangers, this displacement on demand technology is brutally effective and a great idea. Ford needs to do something to stay up. If they made the Impala rear wheel drive, and with a police package, kiss CVPI sales good bye. The SS is leaps and bounds faster than our quickest flat top traffic car. My department was exclusively Chevy untill the Caprice died off, now the guys are used to the Vics, but think they are dogs. We shall see.....

MI2QWK4U
02-17-2006, 01:46 PM
You forgot about the 2004-05 W-Body Impala SS.


I just copied that comparison from a Automotive website.

blackf0rk
02-17-2006, 03:27 PM
The 1964 was available as a 409cuin 425HP also, in 1968 was the 427cuin 425hp, and 1971 was the 454cuin, 425hp

jerrym3
02-21-2006, 08:51 AM
The LS is RWD. My 2004 is sneaky quick. Same motor/trans in my 03 TBird. The SST is fun to play with. However, there have been a few times where I've used SST to down shift, stopped at a light, and took off forgetting that I was in the SST mode.

All of a sudden, with the five speed automatic trans, the car's taching 5K in 1st. (The TBird's a little louder and you can hear the motor revving, but the LS is really quiet.)

SST is also very nice in the snow. Allows 2nd or 3rd gear starts.

But, good old Ford, they made no attempt to dress up the car's appearance, and didn't make one change in the drivetrain after 2003.

Result? Sales drop

One magazine called it "a really great car surrounded by excellant cars (BMW and Mercedes)".

Car is now history.

TripleTransAm
02-21-2006, 09:29 AM
The LS is the car that triggered my interest in replacing my previous Civic 4door with something bigger and more luxurious (and with a V8! ;) ). I rented 2 such beasts on several business trips to the Tampa area in mid 2002. I eventually settled on the less-expensive Marauder a few months later, but I still wonder if I would have had as many quality headaches if I had convinced my wife to let us opt for the LS V8 instead.

marauder307
02-21-2006, 11:54 AM
I've test driven the Pontiac version---the Grand Prix GXP. Pretty stout. Interestingly enough, Pontiac's dropping the GP after this year...or so I've heard. It's a great car, I love the cockpit feel (why oh why can't we get the HUD anywhere else? ARRRGGHH!), and pound for pound, I think it looks better too.

blackf0rk
02-21-2006, 12:52 PM
I've wanted the HUD for a long time too. I drove my friends GTP and he had it on and it was quite awesome. :)

Mike Poore
02-21-2006, 02:17 PM
.......... it will even beat heavily modified Marauders short of having nitrous or a blower! I would call that a winner.


Not so fast there Pancho.... I have here in front of me, a timeslip from when I ran Barry at Mason-Dixon at Merk's shootout, October 23, 2004 at 5:19PM

Bear turned a 13.295 @102.24. His reaction time was .206 and the 60ft time was 1.984.

Let's see one of them Chebby's beat that!

We're not talking about my time(s) :geezer:

MI2QWK4U
02-21-2006, 02:37 PM
Not so fast there Pancho.... I have here in front of me, a timeslip from when I ran Barry at Mason-Dixon at Merk's shootout, October 23, 2004 at 5:19PM

Bear turned a 13.295 @102.24. His reaction time was .206 and the 60ft time was 1.984.

Let's see one of them Chebby's beat that!

We're not talking about my time(s) :geezer:


Well Mike, must be a slow day for nit picking. I never claimed it would beat every single heavily modded Marauder. You are right though, I should compare apples to apples. The new Impala will CRUSH any Marauder in stock trim. I have been talking to some guys that are waiting for the software to flash the Impala with, they claim with the 5.3 L retuned will let the Impala run 13 flat. I would hope that with as much good work Barry has done to his Marauder to run in the low 13s from the obviously dismal stock times of these bricks of 15.xx in the quarter mile, that it would beat a bone stock Impala! Lets be even fairer, give me some exhaust, reflash, and air cleaner and the Impala SS will be as fast if not faster that a Marauder like Barry's. As for see a Chevy do that, be careful what you wish for, you may just get it! Other than outward appearance, which is arbitrary, the new Impala SS blows the Marauder out of the water in stock trim. Not just a little bit, but all the way around. Now my Marauder, being the beast that it is, would crush the Impala, but thats not even close to being fair! I hope that you are happy you found something I posted that you can tear into and Correct me on. Have a good one!


PS...Mike, and those with fairly stock Marauders, this is most likely the view you would get of a new Impala SS, from the rear.
http://www.cardata.com/spoilers/images/bm-146_2006_chevy_impala_ss.jpg

TripleTransAm
02-21-2006, 04:44 PM
Take that bad boy to a dragstrip ASAP! I am curious to see what it does in real world drag testing, totally stock. I want to see if, stock-for-stock, my 14.56 second champion can take down a new Impala SS or not! :)

BAD MERC
02-21-2006, 05:13 PM
GM needs to start building cars again instead of appliances on wheels. There should NEVER be a V8 or performance car produced with front drive. Aside from being as aerodynamic as a parachute, the old Impalas sould outrun the new one with the HP/weight ratio. Even though gearing has a lot to do with it- there really is nothing impressive. they will become police cars, taxis, and rental cars. At least my Marauder lacks the bowtie.

TripleTransAm
02-21-2006, 05:27 PM
There should NEVER be a V8 or performance car produced with front drive.

Besides the Mustang and the brief blip that was the Marauder, Ford hasn't had much to be proud of lately either. I think you're generalizing too much.

MI2QWK4U
02-21-2006, 05:44 PM
Take that bad boy to a dragstrip ASAP! I am curious to see what it does in real world drag testing, totally stock. I want to see if, stock-for-stock, my 14.56 second champion can take down a new Impala SS or not! :)


Now that would be a sweet run! Wish we could run each other. While NOTHING replaces the Marauder, its nice having the SS in the garage for those days you just dont want to get the Marauder wet or dusty!

CBT
02-21-2006, 05:47 PM
[quote= "67 Impala SS 427"

Here's the link from the '67 article I found.
http://www.55-57chevys.com/coccc/articles/679/67asty1.html[/quote]

It's like seeing my step-dads again. I wish he'd kept it.

MI2QWK4U
02-21-2006, 05:54 PM
GM needs to start building cars again instead of appliances on wheels. There should NEVER be a V8 or performance car produced with front drive. Aside from being as aerodynamic as a parachute, the old Impalas sould outrun the new one with the HP/weight ratio. Even though gearing has a lot to do with it- there really is nothing impressive. they will become police cars, taxis, and rental cars. At least my Marauder lacks the bowtie.


What has ford done to impress guys like us? Nothing. Faced with this choice...ford 500 or the Impala SS? I will agree with you that the old 90s era Impala SSs were sweet looking, but never really had a lot of power bone stock. I also agree that the front wheel thing isnt the best, but GM is resolving that in a year or two. Ford probably still wont have a V8 RWD sedan, and that will hurt them. I mean, you can knock the Impala all you like, but at least it is much faster than the stock Marauder, front wheel drive and all. The Impala is much better equipped, styling inside is more comfortable, and generally gives the feeling of a much bigger, more expensive car. And as for making it a police car, 100% of the guys that drove it so far would boycot the Crown Vics they hate with a passion for that Impala! Chevy left a big void when the caprice stopped production. My department, along with just about every one in my part of the county and state, drove the Caprice, and loved them. Ford suddenly became the only game in town, and we got stuck with the Crown Vic, and ford didnt care about impressing law enforcement much because of the monopoly. The charger cruiser, magnum, and soon the new RWD chevy police car will wipe the crown vic out of recent memory.

the_pack_rat
02-21-2006, 06:16 PM
GM needs to start building cars again instead of appliances on wheels. There should NEVER be a V8 or performance car produced with front drive.
I don't know ......

I stumbled upon this pic the other day ..... & get a rather familiar twitchy feeling south of the border, the more I stare at it.

http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=86 78&d=1140570885

TripleTransAm
02-21-2006, 07:19 PM
While NOTHING replaces the Marauder, its nice having the SS in the garage for those days you just dont want to get the Marauder wet or dusty!


Funny, I now say the same thing but about my Marauders with respect to my Trans Ams. MM#1 saw maybe 2000 miles or so all summer, most of it being moved from one side of my driveway to another to make room for a Trans Am of my choice to hit the road.

Actually come to think of it, on wet rainy days I *still* preferred taking out a Trans Am (my Ram Air, mainly, although I did get caught in two torrential downpours with my '78 last summer during my work commutes).

Someone please find me a trouble-free Canadian MM and I might change my mind.

StevenJ
02-22-2006, 08:26 AM
I don't know ......

I stumbled upon this pic the other day ..... & get a rather familiar twitchy feeling south of the border, the more I stare at it.

http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=86 78&d=1140570885

Thoose Old's V8s are nothing like the FWD Imapla of today and even they were pretty rare. They were set up with longitudinal engine with no rear dirveshaft and a front transfer case. It's like a 4wd truck with no driveshaft to power the rear wheels. According to motor trend, stock the Impala SS will run 14.3 which is only .36 faster than my car in the mildly modded state that it is in. Heck, if I really tried, I could probably run 14.58 if I practiced enough. From my understanding Lidio has driven these and he gave it a moderate review. He said that you really have to hold on to the steering wheel or else the thing will torque steer into a wall.

merc6
02-22-2006, 08:35 AM
V8 and FWD just sounds like it's as logic as Police vehicle and FWD. if those impalas are built to last then it will compete with the vic sales. The fleet ones we have don't start or don't run. Out of 6 fleet, 5 have new trannys and engines in them.

Marauder2005
02-22-2006, 04:48 PM
Which one are you refering to? The older Impala SS with the supercharged V6? Those are the older platform. We are talking about the just released 2006 5.3L V8 Impala SS. People will learn to show the new Impala a little respect. It will smoke a stock Marauder, Charger, 300, Magnum in a heartbeat. Ask me how I know..... So even front wheel drive and its little Chevy bowtie, The SS will still beat a stock Marauder, it will even beat heavily modified Marauders short of having nitrous or a blower! I would call that a winner.

I don't think speed makes it a winner. A S/C VW bug might be faster

then my MM, but its still not a winner in my book. All comes down to

opinion I guess...:)

MI2QWK4U
02-22-2006, 05:22 PM
I don't think speed makes it a winner. A S/C VW bug might be faster

then my MM, but its still not a winner in my book. All comes down to

opinion I guess...:)


PS
Part of me wishes Ford was listening and would step up to the plate with a nice replacement for the Marauder...big, roomy, V8, RWD, and black....
oh well...

Zack
02-22-2006, 06:40 PM
What the hell is wrong with this thread. A moderator boasting about a FWD GM product and comparing, even building up the POS to be better than the Marauder.
Dave, your new car is pretty, but it is not a Marauder, nor a Mach 1.
Be the first to close a thread you started. :up: :up:

MI2QWK4U
02-22-2006, 07:09 PM
What the hell is wrong with this thread. A moderator boasting about a FWD GM product and comparing, even building up the POS to be better than the Marauder.
Dave, your new car is pretty, but it is not a Marauder, nor a Mach 1.
Be the first to close a thread you started. :up: :up:


Zack, facts are facts. The SS isnt a replacement for the Marauder, cant help GM did a good job on the car. I DIDNT think I would like it, but what can I say, its loaded up much nicer than the Marauder, and smokes a LOT cars off the line, all for $10,000 less than the Marauder! Like i said, its nice having something like the SS to knock around in when im saving the miles on the Marauder. Hmmm...drive the Impala or the Ram...its got a hemi..nah....no thanks. Come on Zack, You know full well the Marauder is my fave ride, but face it, the Marauder will eventually wear out, whats wrong with having choices for that drive to work.

MI2QWK4U
02-22-2006, 07:15 PM
What the hell is wrong with this thread.


LOL, it just occured to me, the answer to your question is....DENIAL! Thats whats wrong with this thread! Denial that a 4 door sedan, the SS, has as much horsepower as the Marauder, is faster, better appointed, and cheaper that the much loved Marauder! Its ok, Ford will come up with another Impala killer!

merc6
02-22-2006, 07:27 PM
LOL, it just occured to me, the answer to your question is....DENIAL! Thats whats wrong with this thread! Denial that a 4 door sedan, the SS, has as much horsepower as the Marauder, is faster, better appointed, and cheaper that the much loved Marauder! Its ok, Ford will come up with another Impala killer!lol eventualy! took 03 model year to respond to the 96 and lower model years :( slapping a current day cobra motor in a 3.55 Vic could easily accomplish this. Insurance would rape me good tho...

Marauder2005
02-22-2006, 07:30 PM
LOL, it just occured to me, the answer to your question is....DENIAL! Thats whats wrong with this thread! Denial that a 4 door sedan, the SS, has as much horsepower as the Marauder, is faster, better appointed, and cheaper that the much loved Marauder! Its ok, Ford will come up with another Impala killer!

Does this count? Just add water, and boom SS killer :rolleyes::)

http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/fusion/

MI2QWK4U
02-22-2006, 07:44 PM
Does this count? Just add water, and boom SS killer :rolleyes::)

http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/fusion/


Seriously....come on. The Fusion=Malibu.

The Fusion's base 2.3-liter, four-cylinder engine makes 160 horsepower and meets PZEV certification in California. It's connected to a standard five-speed manual transmission, and a five-speed automatic is optional. A 221-hp, 3.0-liter V6 is available on SE and SEL Fusions. This engine comes with one transmission, a six-speed automatic. This transmission shifts well enough, but we wish it had a true manual-shift mode instead of just two forward-gear gates ("D" and "L"), neither of which has much effect on the tranny's behavior.

Smokie
02-22-2006, 08:12 PM
Reading this thread reminded me of a day at the track in 2003, I lined up at the tree next to a green Honda Civic driven by a young man in his early 20's. The car was extremely loud with that unique sound 4 cylinder jap engines make.

My Marauder was N/A and I never gave the Honda much thought, off we went and when it was over I ran my personal best N/A time....the Honda beat me by 0.6 seconds.

Shortly after that I was going home and saw the kid leaving in his green "kermit the frog" Honda Civic.....I drove home in my Mercury Marauder.

StevenJ
02-22-2006, 08:30 PM
Reading this thread reminded me of a day at the track in 2003, I lined up at the tree next to a green Honda Civic driven by a young man in his early 20's. The car was extremely loud with that unique sound 4 cylinder jap engines make.

My Marauder was N/A and I never gave the Honda much thought, off we went and when it was over I ran my personal best N/A time....the Honda beat me by 0.6 seconds.

Shortly after that I was going home and saw the kid leaving in his green "kermit the frog" Honda Civic.....I drove home in my Mercury Marauder.

Was that when you were stock? Just curious. I mean, that's kind of bad but if that was when you were stock with not even a tune, well yeah. At least when I got to track the most embarressing car I got beat by was a SRT4. Of course on my second time at track I got slaughtered by a WS6 Firebird, and a Caprice with a custom big block. Well, yeah.

MI2QWK4U
02-22-2006, 08:32 PM
Reading this thread reminded me of a day at the track in 2003, I lined up at the tree next to a green Honda Civic driven by a young man in his early 20's. The car was extremely loud with that unique sound 4 cylinder jap engines make.

My Marauder was N/A and I never gave the Honda much thought, off we went and when it was over I ran my personal best N/A time....the Honda beat me by 0.6 seconds.

Shortly after that I was going home and saw the kid leaving in his green "kermit the frog" Honda Civic.....I drove home in my Mercury Marauder.


Uhhh...ok. What do you have against green?

Smokie
02-23-2006, 05:21 AM
I left out the details of the race because it was not about the race, The kid loved his Honda every bit as much as I do my Marauder.

Dave has already told us how he feels about the FWD SS, others have told him how they feel about the car. It's no different than my story...to each his own.



Since the question was asked: My car that day had a Reinhart tune, all else bonestock, ran 14.4 the Honda, modified engine, intake, exhaust, wet nitrous kit ran 13.8