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SergntMac
02-23-2006, 09:42 AM
Couple of days ago, a new member posted his first post among us, and got a few folks stirred up. It's all good now, but for a day or two, it looked like another troll in our midsts.

Personally, I think trolls can be fun to have around, once you catch on to them. I really like the trolls who try to convince me they own a Marauder, or, are considering buying one in the near future, and ask me about mods, vendors and so on. You know what's really funny? When one troll starts trolling another troll. He-haw, that's really fun to watch!

This was more frequent when the Marauder was in production, but it's still going on today. Over the past few months, we have seen a few screen names come and go, and most of us who read here frequently know who I am talking about, no need to call 'em out. This is from Wikpedia...

Trolling in the 1990s
One early reference to "troll" found in the Google Usenet archive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google#Google_Groups) was by user "Mark Miller", directed toward the user, "Tad", on February 8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_8), 1990 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990) [1] (http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.flame/browse_thread/thread/44c94ccfa7ede2bf/80135728c2dc034b?q=troll&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fhl=en&safe=off&q=troll&qt_s=Search+Groups&as_drrb=b&as_mind=8&as_minm=2&as_miny=1990&as_maxd=11&as_maxm=2&as_maxy=1990&&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#80135728c2dc034b). However, it is unclear if this instance represents a usage of "troll" as it is known today, or if it was simply a chance choice of epithet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epithet#Linguistics):
<DL><DD>"You are so far beyond being able to understand anything anyone here says that this is just converging on uselessness. The really sad part is that you really believe that you're winning. You are a shocking waste of natural resources — kindly re-integrate yourself into the food-chain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_chain). Just go die in your sleep you mindless flatulent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatulence) troll." </DD></DL>The more likely derivation can be found in the phrase, "trolling for newbies", popularized in the early 1990s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s) in the Usenet group, alt.folklore.urban. The usage was somewhat different from the current notion of trolling; it was a relatively gentle inside joke by veteran users, presenting questions or topics that had been so overdone, only a new user would respond to them earnestly. Others expanded the term to include the practice of playing a seriously misinformed or deluded user, even in newsgroups (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroup) where one was not a regular; these were often attempts at humor, rather than provocation. In such contexts, the noun, "troll", usually referred to an act of trolling, rather than to the author.

Some long-time Usenet users continued to insist on these earlier definitions, even after the term was applied more generally to inflammatory actions, previously characterized as "flamebait (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamebait)".

If you think you're getting trolled, you're prolly right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll#Trolling_as_ide ntity_deception

Bigdogjim
02-23-2006, 10:14 AM
Thanks and here I thiught trolls were little short people?

Like rats...don't feed 'em and they look elsewhere:)

Blackened300a
02-23-2006, 10:18 AM
Well When its not all about cars, A Troll is fun to pick apart.
I say let them join, It makes this place more interesting to see how dumb some people really are.

wsmylie
02-23-2006, 10:21 AM
Think I was told they lived under bridges when I was a kid;) .

RoyLPita
02-23-2006, 10:36 AM
Think I was told they lived under bridges when I was a kid;) .

Back then, they only harrassed billy goats in packs of 3. :lol:

Hotrauder
02-23-2006, 03:41 PM
I thought it was a verb, as in walking around with your whoha hanging out? No? Mac, I need more help. Dennis:beer:

duhtroll
02-23-2006, 03:53 PM
Some of us linger a while. :)

usafsniper
02-23-2006, 04:05 PM
Well, in local military verbology, it refers to a really hideous member of the opposite sex, most commonly used by the male species. Bear in mind however, that same male member will change his opinion from "troll" to "goddess" after the application of a few beers and a shot of tequila.

Mad4Macs
02-23-2006, 05:20 PM
Michigan consists of 2 peninsulas, the "upper" and the "lower". The upper peninsula is connected to the lower via the Mackinaw Bridge (one of the longest suspension bridges in the world!).
I've got family in the U.P
Youpers (U.P'ers) often refer to anyone in the lower peninsula as trolls, as we live "under the bridge".
Hey, the only thing they have up there is beer and snow, so we let them have their fun :D

Bluerauder
02-23-2006, 05:46 PM
The upper peninsula is connected to the lower via the Mackinac Bridge (one of the longest suspension bridges in the world!).
The Mackinac Bridge is number 6 on the list of longest suspension bridges.

The 25 longest Suspension Bridges in the World.

Rank
Bridge Location Year
Length in Feet/Meters of the Main Span

1
Akashi Kaikyo Japan ~1998
6066/1990

2
Great Belt Link
Denmark
1996
5328/1624

3
Humber River
England
1981
4626/1410

4
Verrazano Narrows
New York City
1964
4260/1298

5
Golden Gate
San Francisco
1937
4200/1280

6
Mackinac Straits
Michigan
1957
3800/1158

7
Minami Bian-Seto
Japan
1988
3668/1118

8
Second Bosphorous
Turkey
1992
3576/1090

9
First Bosphorous
Turkey
1973
3524/1074

10
George Washington
New York City
1931
3500/1067

11
Tagus River
Portugal
1966
3323/1013

12
Forth Road
Scotland
1964
3300/1006

13
Kita Bisan-Seto
Japan
1988
3300/1006

14
Severn
England
1966
3240/988

15
Shimotsui Straits
Japan
1988
3136/956

16
Ohnaruto
Japan
1985
2874/876

17
Tacoma Narrows
Washington
1950
2800/853
(The original 1940 bridge collapsed shortly after opening due to harmonic resonance)
Click on MPEG Video of the bridge in motion before it collapsed >>> http://cee.carleton.ca/Exhibits/Tacoma_Narrows/


18
Innoshima
Japan
1983
2526/770

19
Kanmon Straits
Japan
1973
2336/712

20
Angostura
Venezuela
1967
2336/712

21
San Francisco-Oakland Bay
San Francisco
1936
2310/704

22
Bronx-Whitestone
New York City
1939
2300/701

23
Pierre Laporte
Quebec, Canada
1970
2190/668

24
Delaware Memorial I
Delaware
1951
2150/655

25
Delaware Memorial II
Delaware
1968
2150/655

jimlam56
02-23-2006, 05:50 PM
I didn't know what a Troll was, until Defyant posted a picture of one...thanks Charlie!:lol:

Donny Carlson
02-23-2006, 08:35 PM
it was a fishing reference. Like dropping bait, trolling to see if anybody takes it, hilarity ensues.

Fast4Door
02-23-2006, 08:41 PM
...Hey, the only thing they have up there is beer and snow, so we let them have their fun :D

I went to college "up there" (Michigan Tech) and you got this right. I don't like snow, so guess how I spent my time...

shakes_26
02-23-2006, 08:42 PM
beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.... :beer:



Well, in local military verbology, it refers to a really hideous member of the opposite sex, most commonly used by the male species. Bear in mind however, that same male member will change his opinion from "troll" to "goddess" after the application of a few beers and a shot of tequila.

Rider90
02-23-2006, 08:44 PM
beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.... :beer:
In some cases, the keg-stander.

CBT
02-23-2006, 08:58 PM
Da Yoopers, isn't that a band from the Upper P? Did some crazy song about the second week of deercamp?

STLR FN
02-23-2006, 11:45 PM
beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.... :beer:


In some cases, the keg-stander.


Billy got his Beer-Goggles on. :eek: <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Marauderjack
02-24-2006, 03:20 AM
Ahem......Bluerauder....Look at our BRIDGE!!!

The Arthur Ravenel, Jr. Bridge or New Cooper River Bridge is a cable-stayed bridge over the Cooper River in South Carolina, connecting downtown Charleston to Mount Pleasant. The eight lane bridge satisfied the capacity of U.S. Highway 17 when it opened in 2005 to replace two obsolete truss bridges. With a main span of 1546 feet (471 m), the Arthur Ravenel, Jr. Bridge is the longest cable-stayed bridge in North America.

Charleston’s new bridge over the Cooper River is a cable-stayed suspension design with two diamond-shaped towers, each soaring to a height of 575 feet (175 m). The total length of the structure is 13,200 feet (4.0 km), with the main span stretching 1546 feet (471 m) between the towers. 128 individual cables anchored to the inside of the diamond towers suspend the deck 186 feet (57 m) above the river. The roadway consists of eight 12-foot lanes, four in each direction. A campaign by locals eventually led to the addition of a 12-foot bicycle and pedestrian path to the design, which runs along the entire south edge of the bridge overlooking Charleston Harbor.

The bridge superstructure is constructed to withstand shipping accidents and the natural disasters that have plagued Charleston’s history. The span was designed to endure wind gusts in excess of 300mph, far stronger than those of the state’s worst hurricane, Hugo (1989). Engineers also had to be mindful of the 1886 earthquake that nearly leveled Charleston. The Ravenel Bridge can withstand an earthquake to approximately 7.4 on the Richter scale without total failure. To protect the bridge from uncontrolled ships, the towers are flanked by one-acre rock islands. Any ship will run aground before it can collide with the towers.

I think it is second only to a similar bridge in Japan!!

NO TROLLS THERE YET BUT IT IS TOO NEW!!!:bows:

Marauderjack:beer:

Mad1
02-24-2006, 05:56 AM
One of the most revolutionary arch bridges in recent years is the Natchez Trace Bridge in Franklin, Tennessee, which was opened to traffic in 1994. It's the first American arch bridge to be constructed from segments of pre-cast concrete, a highly economical material. Two graceful arches support the roadway above. Usually arch bridges employ vertical supports called "spandrels" to distribute the weight of the roadway to the arch below, but the Natchez Trace Bridge was designed without spandrels to create a more open and aesthetically pleasing appearance. As a result, most of the live load is resting on the crowns of the two arches, which have been slightly flattened to better carry it. Already the winner of many awards, the bridge is expected to influence bridge design for years to come.

So sayeth Nova (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bridge/meetarch.html), so you know it's true.

Take that trolls!

TripleTransAm
02-24-2006, 07:01 AM
Blah blah blah... being an electrical engineer, you folks are missing the most important bridge of all: the DIODE bridge. Take a look at this bad boy...

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electronic/ietron/rectbr.gif

Notice the complete absence of trolls in that image... any stragglers have a high risk of getting zapped if the voltage is high enough.

As for usefullness, well let me just say that if it wasn't for the Diode bridge, the US capital would be called Washington AC instead of Washington DC.

TripleTransAm
02-24-2006, 07:04 AM
Come to think of it, the Natchez Trace Bridge looks like a form of diode bridge. Would have hated to drive over it if it HADN'T been rectified...

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electronic/ietron/rectbr.gifhttp://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bridge/images/natchez.jpeg

Dan
02-24-2006, 07:15 AM
YOU'RE ALL IDIOTS. I THINK THAT YOU HAVE WAY TOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS. IF YOU THINK THAT THESE STUPID POSTS ARE GOING TO GET ANYONE UPSET YOU HAD BETTER THINK AGAIN.

AND ANOTHER THING....

TRILOGY IS BEST!

DRIVING FAST ON PUBLIC STREETS IS MY PROBLEM, NOT YOURS.

MARTY SHOULD TELL US HOW MUCH HE SPENT ON HIS CAR.

There, is that enough trolling yet?

:lol:

Best,

Dan

SergntMac
02-24-2006, 09:23 AM
YOU'RE ALL IDIOTS. I THINK THAT YOU HAVE WAY TOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS. IF YOU THINK THAT THESE STUPID POSTS ARE GOING TO GET ANYONE UPSET YOU HAD BETTER THINK AGAIN. Best, Dan Dan...No bridges in your neck of the woods?

Dan
02-24-2006, 09:29 AM
:)

Oh, I'm sorry. Is this thead about bridges. Stupid me. I thought it was about TROLLS! :)

SergntMac
02-24-2006, 09:40 AM
Well, like all things here, it's what you make it.

martyo
02-24-2006, 09:59 AM
As for usefullness, well let me just say that if it wasn't for the Diode bridge, the US capital would be called Washington AC instead of Washington DC.


That right there ^^^ made Diet Mountain Dew come out of my nose.

hitchhiker
02-24-2006, 10:04 AM
Come to think of it, the Natchez Trace Bridge looks like a form of diode bridge. Would have hated to drive over it if it HADN'T been rectified...

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electronic/ietron/rectbr.gifhttp://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bridge/images/natchez.jpeg

Holy Rectifier Batman!

:D

Haggis
02-24-2006, 10:27 AM
Holy Rectum Batman!

:D
What does his rectum have to do with anything?

TripleTransAm
02-24-2006, 10:45 AM
What does his rectum have to do with anything?


I understand there is a lot of rectification going on in this movie:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MG/333905~Brokeback-Mountain-Posters.jpg

Dr Caleb
02-24-2006, 10:48 AM
Come to think of it, the Natchez Trace Bridge looks like a form of diode bridge. Would have hated to drive over it if it HADN'T been rectified...

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electronic/ietron/rectbr.gifhttp://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bridge/images/natchez.jpeg

And by some coincidence, that circuit is also refererred to as a 'full wave bridge'.

hitchhiker
02-24-2006, 11:25 AM
I understand there is a lot of rectification going on in this movie:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MG/333905~Brokeback-Mountain-Posters.jpg


Dat's Nazz Tee

:lol:

SergntMac
02-24-2006, 12:28 PM
Thus, the "and stuff" I mentioned in my opening post.

Mike Poore
02-24-2006, 02:16 PM
Come to think of it, the Natchez Trace Bridge looks like a form of diode bridge. Would have hated to drive over it if it HADN'T been rectified...

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electronic/ietron/rectbr.gifhttp://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bridge/images/natchez.jpeg

Dang, I thought for a minute it was a collpits ocellator.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f6/NPN_Colpitts_oscillator_collec tor_coil.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NPN_Colpitts_oscillator_ collector_coil.png)

DE W3CAR

Vortech347
02-24-2006, 03:14 PM
I think some people take internet forums WAY to seriously. :lol:

Mike Poore
02-24-2006, 03:35 PM
What does his rectum have to do with anything?

Damn straight, he missed the curve and it recked um good, why, they were almost kilt. ;)

TripleTransAm
02-24-2006, 03:38 PM
Dang, I thought for a minute it was a collpits ocellator.


Yeah, I was tempted to use that circuit, but I kept flip-flopping on it.

merc406
02-24-2006, 03:41 PM
Talk about Trolls, theirs a ton of Troll Booths down here, WTF, Florida don't make enough on the tourists? :bs:

Dr Caleb
02-24-2006, 04:05 PM
Dang, I thought for a minute it was a collpits ocellator.


Yeah, I was tempted to use that circuit, but I kept flip-flopping on it.

I'm sure there's a monostable multivibrator joke in there somewhere.

SergntMac
02-24-2006, 04:13 PM
I wear a Kilt, and there is NOTHING "almost" about it...

Mike Poore
02-24-2006, 04:35 PM
I'm sure there's a monostable multivibrator joke in there somewhere.

Uncork enough 807's and you'll find almost anything.

Bet them EE dudes don't know what an 807 is.

Mike Poore
02-24-2006, 04:38 PM
I wear a Kilt, and there is NOTHING "almost" about it...

He looked under his kilt after a night out on the town, and there on his best friend was tied a blue ribbon.

Dunno where we were last night, laddie; but it seems we took first prize. :beer:

Bluerauder
02-24-2006, 08:20 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Dunno where we were last night, laddie; but it seems we took first prize. :beer:
Where do you come up with this stuff, Mike ?? :D

bigslim
02-25-2006, 12:28 AM
We can always turn this into a password protected site. That way we can keep all the people we want here. That would stop the trolls.:rolleyes:

Marauderjack
02-25-2006, 04:58 AM
Hey Mike Poore....

I haven't heard that term in years!!!;)

807 = :beer:

Marauderjack:rolleyes:

TripleTransAm
02-25-2006, 05:34 AM
We can always turn this into a password protected site. That way we can keep all the people we want here. That would stop the trolls.:rolleyes:

Who needs passwords? The way we treat new arrivals lately, I don't think we'll have to worry about new members sticking around long enough for us to find out whether they were trolls or not.

SergntMac
02-25-2006, 07:47 AM
Don't go putting this train back on track...

Mike Poore
02-25-2006, 05:22 PM
Hey Mike Poore....

I haven't heard that term in years!!!;)

807 = :beer:

Marauderjack:rolleyes:

There may be half dozen of us who know; N4OGL, for sure.
I've got one mounted on a trophy board. :beer:

Dan
02-25-2006, 05:24 PM
Who needs passwords? The way we treat new arrivals lately, I don't think we'll have to worry about new members sticking around long enough for us to find out whether they were trolls or not.
True, true. Sad but true.

It's almost like we are getting elitist, isn't it?