View Full Version : The Making of a Badazz Marauder ***DUW***
Rider90
03-05-2006, 05:05 PM
This will be the official thread for my Supercharger install :cool:
Day 1 - I started and finished the engine disassembly, mounted and wired the KB Boost-a-pump in 4.5 hours today. See the pictures...
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/1.jpg
Everything before installation. What a picture, and yes, it will be framed.
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/2.jpg
The last picture of my car naturally aspirated.
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/3.jpg
Fan, Fan shroud, zip tube, coolant bottle, coolant, grille, all moved.
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/4.jpg
Removal of the upper intake.
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/5.jpg
Golden...
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/6.jpg
Removal of the lower intake, after fuel rails & injectors.
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/7.jpg
What it almost looks like now, except I finally was able to get to the bolt on the back of the cylinder head to take out that coolant tube (See what it took below) and the knock sensors have been set aside.
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/8.jpg
I didn't think I could fit either. I did is very slowly, so slowly I could still picture the cold flow of coolant that ran down my leg and into my shoe.
I'm also having a problem getting to the EGR tube that connects to the exhaust manifold. Still don't have that one figured out. Big socket and LONG extension? ideas?
EDIT: Ellie helped too :P
jdando
03-05-2006, 05:26 PM
I'm also having a problem getting to the EGR tube that connects to the exhaust manifold. Still don't have that one figured out. Big socket and LONG extension? ideas?
The EGR nut is a biatch. If I recall it is a 1 1/16" nut. It appears the car is on a lift, so get her in the air and have at it. You can also try a large adjustable wrench. Not much room for stroke in either case. You may want to spray with WD40, penetrating oil, etc. and let it soak for a while before attempting such activities.
Looking good so far. Looks like a nice shop to work in. Keep on plugging along, read the manual, etc!
jeremy
Hotrauder
03-05-2006, 06:32 PM
Looking good Rider. Nice pics and good progress. It will all be worth it and you will have the satisfaction of self install. Good luck and keep the pics coming. I sure wish I had more of mine. Dennis:beer:
Eric91Z
03-05-2006, 06:50 PM
Congrats and good luck with the install. I hope all goes well with no big problems!!! I wish I had a place like that to work on vehicles!!!
Marauder2005
03-05-2006, 06:53 PM
Very, very nice. Good luck with that install. You must hate those
CVPI wheels, I have the sameones and they make me sick. I can not wait to
put the 18s back on! :) :D
Nice shop!!! And more power to you on the self install, it doesn't get any better than that!!!
Eric91Z
03-05-2006, 07:14 PM
You must hate those
CVPI wheels, I have the sameones and they make me sick. I can not wait to
put the 18s back on! :) :D
I agree with this!!! Only a couple more weeks and the 18's come out of the basement and go back on the car (along with some caliper painting at the same time).
Tallboy
03-05-2006, 07:31 PM
Looks like the right place to do the job!
I'm here if you need me...;)
MarauderMark
03-05-2006, 07:33 PM
Boy it looks like you've been very VERY good this year..D
TooManyFords
03-05-2006, 07:35 PM
I sure wish I had a heated garage like that. I'll catch up with you at a future chicken run and watch you run that beast.
Cheers!
John
Shora
03-05-2006, 08:13 PM
I sure wish I had such know how to work on my car like that. In picture 1, the wheel most to the left has what tire on it? Your sig says KDW2 but it looks like some type of Goodyear in the picture.
Again, congrats.
MaLo03
03-05-2006, 08:22 PM
Loooooukin Goooooud...............
Eric91Z
03-05-2006, 08:28 PM
I sure wish I had such know how to work on my car like that. In picture 1, the wheel most to the left has what tire on it? Your sig says KDW2 but it looks like some type of Goodyear in the picture.
Again, congrats.
That looks like the KDW2 to me. And the one to the right side looks like the stock KDWS. I think he said he has 2 front KDW2 sitting in his room waiting to be mounted.
DEFYANT
03-05-2006, 08:44 PM
Awsome! Take your time and do it right. Spray that EGR nut with the WD40 and let it soak. You'll get it.
Rider90
03-05-2006, 09:59 PM
Thanks guys!
John - who said it was heated? I work up enough heat myself that I can wear a T-shirt out there in the 25*F weather :)
All the way to the left are my two rear KDW2 tires, mounted. The wheels to the right are the original KDWs and you can see the tires far right that are ready to be mounted (KDW2)
Thank you for the suggestions on the EGR tube everyone. My brother doesn't want to help me out like he said he would, which is alright since these Trilogy instructions are so well written, but that also means I'll be short on some tools. So far I am without a grinder and an inch/lbs torque wrench. Brad, PM coming your way :o
Okay, shouldn't there be a preacher, pastor or priest in that goodies picture giving those rear tires their last rites? :confused: Come on, you know their days are numbered. Don't you have any decency?
Good luck and have big fun. I'm sure you'll do a great job. Thanks for the install series.
J
jimlam56
03-06-2006, 05:16 AM
Thanks for the great pics, keep em coming!
Good luck on your install!
Rider90
03-06-2006, 08:31 PM
Brad (Bradley@Dynopros) is going to come by this week with an in/lb torque wrench and a few OEM parts from the Dealer he works at, as well as the suggested spark plugs per Trilogy.
Thanks for your help buddy! :beer:
Anyone else in the Chicagoland area is more than welcome to stop by and lend a hand, shoot the breeze, watch, whatever, I'm near Lake Zurich.
carfixer
03-06-2006, 08:39 PM
If you have an air chizel, get it on one of the flats of the EGR tube nut at bottom and walk it loose.
If not, you can get a 1 1/6 wrench on it from the wheel well. The wrench fits under the inner fender well when it is on the nut. If the fitting in the manifold start to turn, tighten the nut up real tight and loosen it in jerky tugs. This will get it loose. You got my #, call if you need help.
Rider90
03-06-2006, 08:42 PM
If you have an air chizel, get it on one of the flats of the EGR tube nut at bottom and walk it loose.
If not, you can get a 1 1/6 wrench on it from the wheel well. The wrench fits under the inner fender well when it is on the nut. If the fitting in the manifold start to turn, tighten the nut up real tight and loosen it in jerky tugs. This will get it loose. You got my #, call if you need help.
Great advice from the man that has been there and done that, what, a dozen times atleast? Thanks Claude!
MikesMerc
03-06-2006, 10:13 PM
Nice thread! Keep us updated.
Big Joe P
03-06-2006, 11:04 PM
Looks good......
AzMarauder
03-07-2006, 07:01 AM
Man...
That is your garage.. lift and all ! :beer:
Perhaps you can rent a grinder from a rental place? Next place to look would be a pawn shop... they tend to have them all the time. Might not be in the best shape... but you don't have to do a LOT of grinding !
Like already mentioned, the EGR tube can be removed from the bottom.
I would undo the tube from the top of the engine first. That way when you try and do it from the bottom and the fitting that goes into the manifold wants to come loose instead of the nut on the EGR tube.. perhaps you can rotate the whole tube and get it out.. one way OR the other.
Did you give any thought to Defyant's suggestion in another thread to remove the cowl ? Check out his Cam Cover install thread. That will make routing the hoses etc. to the back of the S/C a LOT easier. You can make sure you get everything stuffed back there and nothing rubber laying on a hot EGR tube etc. Didn't sound like the cowl removal was all that hard and it would make it easier. I have small hands... and it was STILL a PITA to get around the back of the S/C with the cowl on.
Rider90
03-07-2006, 07:14 AM
I have to do some playing around with the EGR tube, I'm going to try Carfixer's method and spray penetrating fluid on it as well. If that does not work I'll put it up in the air and see what I can do from there.
The cowl is coming out, it just has not been in my way yet. I spoke to Defyant and he had some great advice too.
For your viewing pleasure, I've uploaded a couple more pictures from Sunday.
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/12.jpg
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/11.jpg
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/10.jpg
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/14.jpg
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/9.jpg
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/13.jpg
Rider90
03-07-2006, 07:19 AM
Okay, shouldn't there be a preacher, pastor or priest in that goodies picture giving those rear tires their last rites? :confused: Come on, you know their days are numbered. Don't you have any decency?
Good luck and have big fun. I'm sure you'll do a great job. Thanks for the install series.
J
:lol: My rears are worn as-is, I should get new ones soon anyways.
Dave Compson
03-07-2006, 01:24 PM
Excellent work, keep it up! Love the photos and the write up. Cant wait to see the end product.
Dave
Rider90
03-07-2006, 01:48 PM
Just an update for everyone, I'll be using a cut off wheel (aka Wizzer) instead of a grinder. I'll be sure to count my fingers before and after.
natedog1284
03-07-2006, 03:11 PM
:bows: Wow, that's awesome. Me want.... How in God's name can you afford all this stuff?! I'm so jealous....
Rider90
03-07-2006, 08:44 PM
Put in 3 hours today after work. Check out the pictures :cool:
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/15.jpg
The knock sensor "Bosses" before cutting
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/16.jpg
After the first cut, hanging on by a sliver
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/17.jpg
How much I took off the first time using a cutting wheel
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/18.jpg
The other "Boss" before cutting that chunk off
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/19.jpg
Cut #2, on an angle, almost perfect :eek:
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/20.jpg
What they both looked like after cutting
Rider90
03-07-2006, 08:44 PM
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/21.jpg
Getting ready to see if the lower intake will fit, cleaning around the area and using duct tape
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/22.jpg
Removing the EGR nut from the exhaust manifold. I chose to open up the inner fender to gain access, which worked out quite nicely. To do this you also need to remove the rear two bolts of the airbox to allow the inner fender to flex outwards.
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/23.jpg
How it looked
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/24.jpg
Finally...
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/25.jpg
:censor:
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/26.jpg
New coolant tube installed
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/27.jpg
New coolant tube
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/28.jpg
Hose connected to tube
Rider90
03-07-2006, 08:45 PM
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/29.jpg
And the other end
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/30.jpg
Cleaned up and ready to lay the gaskets
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/32.jpg
The gaskets were closely inspected and everything is fine
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/31.jpg
Attached the tube to the lower intake
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/33.jpg
Woohoo!
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/34.jpg
Hey there good lookin'....
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/35.jpg
To be on the safe side
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/36.jpg
"Parts Floor"
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/37.jpg
As she sits now.
It was a bit of a PITA getting to things in the back at first, but I got used to it, and eventually setup shop under the hood standing between the block and the radiator. Be careful folks, if you try this, be very careful of touching the radiator with your boots when getting out... $$$
Time to get cleaned up, good day so far, now I need a in/lb torque wrench hopefully I can get it tomorrow from Brad :D
03MERCMARAUDER
03-07-2006, 09:38 PM
Looks good man. Keep up the good work
Joe
jdando
03-07-2006, 09:49 PM
Looking good! :woohoo:
DEFYANT
03-07-2006, 10:56 PM
Lookin good indeed sir.
Vortech347
03-08-2006, 12:05 AM
Good god man which bank did you rob for all that stuff? Maybe a job for the Mob? Looks fun thou. I love working on modular cars. They're just as easy as pushrods. Looks like you've got a great shop to work in.
Man, that looks awesome. Great write-up! :bows:
Here's a hint you may find useful or not. Pop those hood struts off. Double or triple a bath towel or fender cover and place it across the windshield where the hood would contact it. Then, bungee the hood upright to the inside whoopie handle on the passenger's side. This will give you greater access and much greater lighting. Do it gingerly and be carefull when putting the car up. It may hit your ceiling. HTH
Good luck and keep us in the loop,
J
Rider90
03-08-2006, 04:28 PM
The hood isn't in my way, and I don't want to risk a scratch or damage anything :D
Brad and I will be meeting up tomorrow and I'll get the plugs and an in/lb torque wrench. From there I can mount the lower manifold and assemble the supercharger.
Stay Tuned!
blackf0rk
03-08-2006, 05:15 PM
Lookin' real good!
AzMarauder
03-08-2006, 05:39 PM
Ha.. I am reliving my install... but you are doing all the work!
GET 'EM !
Not that I want you to stop... but you will get more work done if you take less pictures ! :rolleyes:
Warpath
03-08-2006, 06:41 PM
...Be careful folks, if you try this, be very careful of touching the radiator with your boots when getting out... $$$
Cover the engine side of the radiator with a large piece of cardboard taped to it. It will stop the gentler hits from damaging the fins.
Shora
03-09-2006, 06:35 AM
... but you will get more work done if you take less pictures ! :rolleyes:
Sir, do not ruin a good thing. I love this thread. Rider, you just take your sweet time now and keep those pictures comming ya hear? :D
Rider90
03-09-2006, 06:39 AM
lol, sweet time is right unfortunatly. I have NREMT testing tomorrow and I need to go to WI after work tonight. I won't be working on the Marauder this weekend.
AzMarauder
03-09-2006, 07:03 AM
Sir, do not ruin a good thing. I love this thread. Rider, you just take your sweet time now and keep those pictures comming ya hear? :D
Ha, I'm just pulling his virtual leg. Took me over a week to install mine. Not that I took a lot of pictures, I just went nice and slow, work a couple hours, take a nap, work a couple of hours get something to eat, work a couple hours, watch a football game. I ate my elephant in little bitty chunks!
Except for my struggles with the BAP all went very well!
Hotrauder
03-09-2006, 08:36 AM
I really appreciate the words and pictures. Carfixer, Tallboy and Shakes did mine. We had a blast but it went so fast and was happening at all 3 ends at once. What I didn't miss I didn't understand either:D Seriously every pic and discription takes me back to Nov. 24th. What a night! Thanks. Your job looks great and you have a fabulous work facility. Don't forget the "MOM" rule. Only one beer and then only after the install is complete.:) Dennis
chucky
03-09-2006, 08:42 AM
Looks great, thanks for taking the time to post.
Rider90
03-09-2006, 09:48 AM
I really appreciate the words and pictures. Carfixer, Tallboy and Shakes did mine. We had a blast but it went so fast and was happening at all 3 ends at once. What I didn't miss I didn't understand either:D Seriously every pic and discription takes me back to Nov. 24th. What a night! Thanks. Your job looks great and you have a fabulous work facility. Don't forget the "MOM" rule. Only one beer and then only after the install is complete.:) Dennis
Good to hear, glad you like the pictures. After the install is complete there won't be any beers, I'll need to drive it a lot. Alky will come later. Thanks everyone for the comments, I really do appreciate it and I hope some of these pictures and/or guidance help you out when you do your Trilogy installs. The manual is very well written, pictures, diagrams, very helpful. I have not wrenched anything like this since I was 14 or 15, brings me back even though I'm not THAT old, but still. I would love to do this again.
Bobby Clobber
03-09-2006, 10:32 AM
I'm keenly interested , because we're planning my install for next weekend (18th).Hoping to get the disassembly done on Friday, plus the fuel amp and gauge install and the blower assembly.
Then we will have Sat and Sun , if needed ,for the build up.
After that, if history is any guide ,we'll have a blizzard and I won't be able to drive it till May.:burnout: :burnout:
blackf0rk
03-09-2006, 10:44 AM
Hey Rider, you don't have the blower set up yet? Since I had an install date set, and I drive the car daily, I couldn't just start working on the whole thing; so I set up the blower, plate, and intercooler. LOL it's all I could do.
Just a suggestion. That way when you get to it - the silicone's all dry and you can just plop 'er right in ;)
Breadfan
03-09-2006, 11:55 AM
Wow I must've missed this thread as it's already 4 pages!! The pics are great. They bring back some recent memories for me - congrats on the self-install, it will get tough, but it's worth it. Hopefully you have another set of hands helping out, it's worth it for some of the tasks.
I hope it's either warmer up there than it was for me or that you're in a heated garage. I did this in January in a non-heated garage and that really slowed me down. And when I was done it took about 2 weeks for my core temp to come back up!
Congrats though, looks awesome so far, keep up the great work, and keep thie pics coming!!!
Rider90
03-09-2006, 02:02 PM
Hey Rider, you don't have the blower set up yet? Since I had an install date set, and I drive the car daily, I couldn't just start working on the whole thing; so I set up the blower, plate, and intercooler. LOL it's all I could do.
Just a suggestion. That way when you get to it - the silicone's all dry and you can just plop 'er right in ;)
No torque wrench :P
Rider90
03-09-2006, 02:03 PM
Wow I must've missed this thread as it's already 4 pages!! The pics are great. They bring back some recent memories for me - congrats on the self-install, it will get tough, but it's worth it. Hopefully you have another set of hands helping out, it's worth it for some of the tasks.
I hope it's either warmer up there than it was for me or that you're in a heated garage. I did this in January in a non-heated garage and that really slowed me down. And when I was done it took about 2 weeks for my core temp to come back up!
Congrats though, looks awesome so far, keep up the great work, and keep thie pics coming!!!
The garage isn't heated and I'm glad to hear you like the pics/progress so far :beer:
Rider90
03-09-2006, 02:04 PM
I'm keenly interested , because we're planning my install for next weekend (18th).Hoping to get the disassembly done on Friday, plus the fuel amp and gauge install and the blower assembly.
Then we will have Sat and Sun , if needed ,for the build up.
After that, if history is any guide ,we'll have a blizzard and I won't be able to drive it till May.:burnout: :burnout:
Good luck on your install Bobby!
Warpath
03-09-2006, 07:14 PM
...After the install is complete there won't be any beers, I'll need to drive it a lot...
A few words of advice - After installation is complete, definitely resist the urge to jump on it and only drive it around the block for the first drive. Then check for leaks and make sure everything is still together. Drive longer the next time and check for leaks again. I didn't find some leaks until after about the 3rd or 4th trip. Paxton didn't fully tighten all the fittings on the blower that they installed.:mad: Good luck with everything.
Rider90
03-11-2006, 06:25 PM
Did some work this afternoon :banana2: Check it out...
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/38.jpg
Intake manifold torqued, fuel injectors installed, and fuel rail placed there but not yet tightened.
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/39.jpg
Before silicone sealant and bolting together the units
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/40.jpg
This is obvilously the blower, and the bactine :rolleyes:
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/41.jpg
Another shot of the engine with the fuel rails and new injectors
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/42.jpg
All together and ready for it's new home
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/43.jpg
My dad lending me a hand. The picture looks like he isn't holding it, and I'm cramming it into the lower intake, but it is really the opposite
Rider90
03-11-2006, 06:25 PM
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/44.jpg
Home at last!
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/45.jpg
My dad helping get the bolts finger tight
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/46.jpg
This was about a 25 minute step. I cannot praise the opening of the inner fender for the EGR tube enough! I could not imagine doing it any other way and IMHO if you do a Trilogy this is the way to get to the EGR tube on the exhaust manifold. Two small bolts on the inner fender side, a plastic cap that pops off, and you just need to remove two bolts from the airbox since the inner fender will need to stretch. No damage done, its extemely flexible
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/47.jpg
EGR Attached
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/48.jpg
A close up of the EGR tube on the EGR side
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/49.jpg
Throttle body, cables, and the rest of the intake (minus tube) installed.
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/50.jpg
Almost done!
:banana2:
03MERCMARAUDER
03-11-2006, 06:35 PM
Looking awesome man. Seeing that makes me want a trilogy for my car even more. Thaks for all the great pics.
Joe
Breadfan
03-11-2006, 06:36 PM
Congrats! Lookin' awesome!!! Keep up the great work, you're getting there!
BTW, not to be a buzzkill, but for me getting the blower bolted on felt like a huge milestone but there's still plenty of work left. ;)
You're doing great though, you'll have ti on the road in no time, you are over the main hurdles though, that EGR tube is a pain. I didn't do the wheel well trick, and it resulted in an hour of hitting it with a 1 1/16 wrench with 1/16 of a turn at a time. Imagine my glee when it finally stopped turning!
Things are looking great though, pics are aweome! In my opinion the only hard part after this will be doing the vacuum lines, not hard but in the back a tad hard to reach.
Tip for the boost gauge if you haven't done it yet - mine was missing a fitting. If you think you're missing a fitting, you probably are. I don't quite recall this size, but I had to but a fitting from a parts store for 50cents to continue. I hear autometer has been really bad about putting all the parts in their boxes...
Also, I highly recommend you go to Lowes or Home Depot and get TWO splice kits for a water well power line. They're for 8 ga wires. I don't have a good link, but this is what you want: http://www.econline.com/Content/ProductShowcase/product.asp?DocID=%7B96AE5B5A-C969-11D4-8C84-009027DE0829%7D&VNETCOOKIE=NO
There are a few manufacturers that make them, but the principle is the same, big metal block with screw down taps. You need two, one for each side of the alternator main lead extension.
For the two smaller lines, solder and heat shrink 'em.
BTW on those well splice kits, it comes with a really big piece of heat shrink, I cut mine to fit better, but they take plenty of heat, either a heat gun or propane torch, a lighter won't cut it.
Anyway, for now those are the tips that come to mind. :)
Good luck!
MikesMerc
03-11-2006, 06:39 PM
Looks great so far! Good photos of progression.
jgc61sr2002
03-11-2006, 07:45 PM
Cool very cool.:coolman: :up:
STLR FN
03-11-2006, 08:52 PM
Looks good Jason.
Rider90
03-12-2006, 12:53 AM
Routed the belt, installed the alternator & pulley, IAC, and did the water adapter plate...
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/51.jpg
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/52.jpg
Had an issue with the coolant temperature sensor when transferring from the old crossover to the new crossover. I noticed when I began threading into the new one it was very difficult, so I took off the teflon tape and tried it without any, still difficult. Went ahead and made it tight on the small elbow, and when I did the large elbow the temp sensor rounded off and cracked in three places. Thankfully I was still able to remove the sensor and now I just need a new one.
Click here a picture of what the temperature sensor looks like *DUW* (http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/temp1.jpg)
Does Autozone carry these same temp sensors? Did you guys have difficulty tightening the sensors to the new crossovers? I unscrewed and rescrewed many times and I was certainly not skipping any threads.
jdando
03-12-2006, 08:19 AM
Alright!!! Almost home!
I did not have any issues with the temperature sensors. I had "issues" with my FEAD belt. (Always wanted to use FEAD in a sentence:cool:) I think it took me three tries to get it routed correctly. Make sure none of the coolant hoses rub on any pullies. I had a coolant leak because I did not secure my hoses properly. Found that out the next day when I had a puddle under my car the next day:o.
jeremy
Dave Compson
03-12-2006, 09:51 AM
Thanks for the write up and photos, again they were cool.
Breadfan
03-12-2006, 02:28 PM
I seem to recall one of the coolant sensors being tough to go in. It felt like it was too tight, but went in nonetheless.
Rider90
03-12-2006, 07:48 PM
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/53.jpg
Aftermarket "Wells" coolant temp sensor on the left, FoMoCo on the right. I got the sensor at Autozone.
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/54.jpg
Installation of the coolant crossover pipes
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/55.jpg
Closeup of the crossover tubes
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/56.jpg
S/C Coolant resevoir bottle
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/57.jpg
Another shot
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/58.jpg
Installation of the intercooler
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/59.jpg
The hole I cut for the two coolant hoses
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/60.jpg
Those two coolant hoses
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/61.jpg
Electric Water Pump bracket installed
Rider90
03-12-2006, 07:49 PM
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/62.jpg
Electric water pump and the "Plumbing"
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/63.jpg
The belt tensioner for the blower installed
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/64.jpg
8-Rib blower belt installed
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/65.jpg
Wiring in the electric water pump. Not as difficult as it looks.
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/66.jpg
Extending the alternator wires. I later wound electrical tape over them and wire tied them to the rest of the wires surrounding the engine.
As of now I am removing the cowl to get to the vacuum lines. I would not be able to do this step without removing that cowl, maybe its just my big hands? Thanks goes to Defyant for the heads up.
More pictures & progress coming tomorrow :banana2:
Marauder2005
03-12-2006, 08:18 PM
If I were you, I would not be able to contain myself any longer :)
DEFYANT
03-12-2006, 09:36 PM
Lookin good bud, this should be a sticky thread! A video at the end would finish it off nicely ;)
ridinclean
03-12-2006, 10:26 PM
Its coming along really good rider. I dont know how you can even wait anymore though. With my one-night Carfixer/Tallboy/Shakes install I was about to go crazy with the anticipation building. When you fire her up for the first time you will get this tingly feeling inside and after your first test drive your smile wont go away for a couple of weeks. :lol:
Rider90
03-13-2006, 02:47 AM
Lookin good bud, this should be a sticky thread! A video at the end would finish it off nicely ;)
This may be the case. I bought new KDW2s for the front, and after 17k my rear KDW2s have tread but not as much as I thought. Maybe I'll roast the rear ones and get new ones so the front & rear are atleast starting equal... :burnout:
Rider90
03-13-2006, 02:50 AM
Marauder2005 & ridinclean: I can hardly wait either!! I am hoping that if I don't get it running tonight, then it will be up tomorrow. But I also don't want to get too excited or I may rush and/or overlook something. I'm trying to stay calm :)
Rider90
03-13-2006, 02:53 AM
I seemed to have missed this picture on my camera last night. Here is a pic with the belt on standing a little further back.
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/67.jpg
Rider90
03-13-2006, 02:58 AM
Do you guys think I need to dyno this afterwards just to be safe with the boost-a-pump? Initially the plan was to load it on a trailer and take it to the dyno and adjust the boost-a-pump from there.
mad1stgen
03-13-2006, 04:09 PM
I love DIY supecharger installs !!! Props to you !!!
From the pictures it looks like the eaton on maraduer is driven via a piggy back style pulley of the crank pulley with just one tensioner. How does the piggy back attach to the crank pulley ? Just these three bolts I see in the last pic ? That gives me million ideas on using the cobra eaton without the expensive front cover pulley assy.
Rider90
03-13-2006, 06:48 PM
IT'S ALIVE
Details to follow later :banana2:
Rider90
03-13-2006, 06:49 PM
I love DIY supecharger installs !!! Props to you !!!
From the pictures it looks like the eaton on maraduer is driven via a piggy back style pulley of the crank pulley with just one tensioner. How does the piggy back attach to the crank pulley ? Just these three bolts I see in the last pic ? That gives me million ideas on using the cobra eaton without the expensive front cover pulley assy.
You are correct. Three bolts, piggyback style.
:beer:
Breadfan
03-13-2006, 07:01 PM
Awesome! Congrats!!!!!!
rayjay
03-13-2006, 07:04 PM
IT'S ALIVE
Details to follow later :banana2:
COOL, excellent work Rider!!!
Rider90
03-13-2006, 11:21 PM
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/68.jpg
Removing the cowl so I can access the vacuum lines
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/69.jpg
New gapped Motorcraft spark plugs
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/70.jpg
The blower looks very nice, the rest, eh...needs some spring cleaning. You know I'll post pics when that is done :cool:
WOOHOO! :banana2:
It is a whole new machine. My vocabulary is not strong enough to express how cool this was, not just the end result, but I appreciate every nut, bolt, adapter, and idea that went into this kit. Every little detail has been addressed and the end result is amazing!
I have about 30 miles on the S/C as of now, I plan to take it to work in uh...4 hours...to get some more mileage on it. So far so good! I still have a bubble in the cooling system that I need to work out though - easiest problem to solve in this case. I checked out all the hoses that I clamped and they're holding strong, not a drip of coolant anywhere, except the areas that may have bubbled over during the topping off process. Everything looks good so far!
Now about that test drive. I drove it slowly the first ten miles, varying speeds, RPMs, and of course boost levels. After about ten miles I decided to lean into it, at maximum only 1/2 throttle. Even at half throttle the S/C put me in the back of the seat, opened my eyes, and dropped my jaw. I headed over to the Tollway and did a 30-100 MPH before parking it tonight.. Holy &$#@! :bows: It wasn't even WOT either, I leaned into it until about 1/2 throttle. I don't remember much, blood supply was forced to the back of my head and my senses weren't there for a second. I can't wait to see what this can do WOT - but - the snow shoes need to come off first. I'm sure there were many people thinking one of the local unmarked cruisers got a performance upgrade this evening.
Time for bed :snore: Too cool...
ridinclean
03-13-2006, 11:53 PM
Thats awesome man, now go WOT!!!! I did on my first test drive, you'll love it!! Another beast lurking the streets...
bigslim
03-14-2006, 12:16 AM
Way to go Jason. Glad to see it running and you enjoying it. To answer your question about the dyno, I drove mine for two weeks before it went out to Lidio for a Dyno. Once on the dyno everything looked fine. You should be fine until you make it to the dyno. ENJOY!!!!!!!!!:burn:
Bradley G
03-14-2006, 02:09 AM
congrats Pal!
Sorry I did not make it over last night.
welcome to the boosters!:P
Rider90
03-14-2006, 06:31 AM
Today the agenda is mount and balance the front KDW2s, put the MM rims back on, and do the stud/girdle kit.
Getting to work this morning was a lotta fun :D
Rider90,
Congradulations on your self install. You have done the membership a most valuable service by sharing your discription and pictures of the Trilogy kit installation. Your considerate effort has taken the mystery out of a very complex task and helped all of us understand the pieces of the kit and how they fit together. Like you, many of us are not fortunate to live near a DR or a lidio or a Carfixer. Your effort has made it possible for many a DIY'ers to tackle this task with confidence or have their mechanic do it with a much better idea of what the installation should be like.
My mechanic and I have been glued to this thread since you started and he now has a much better understanding of the individual tasks involved.
I'll be getting my kit later this year and will follow your lead in a DIY install.
Thanks again, Jason and hope the car performs to your expectations after it's tuned.
Regard,
RoyLPita
03-14-2006, 10:23 AM
Congrats on installing the Kit yourself. Did you mount the boost guage in the dash or on the A-pillar?
Breadfan
03-14-2006, 10:45 AM
WOW, the cowl removal does net a lot of room! Now I wish I had done it...I got stuck removing the cowl though and just gave up and proceeded...
So, on the cowl removal, do the wipers have to come off??? If so, how are they removed?
Rider90
03-14-2006, 11:46 AM
Pat, I'm very glad you and your mechanic enjoyed reading up on this. The kit was not difficult to install at all. Everything is labled and diagrams are there for the coolant hoses and vacuum lines, I'm tellin ya, it is amazingly straight forward. Glad you hear you'll be getting a kit this year! You WILL NOT regret it.
Brian, no boost gauge as of yet. I honestly have the boost fitting covered securely with duct tape as we speak. I have not gone WOT nor will I very soon, but I am waiting on my Nordskog Digital Gauges. I ordered them off their website, over a month ago, and nothing has been billed or shipped. They told me they would send it out two weeks ago and they did not reply to my E-mail until I called them about it. I would suggest ordering them from someone that keeps them in stock, IIRC, Donny Carlson got his from Summit.
Breadfan, the wipers do need to come off. There are small retaining clips along the side of the "Swivel" that are hard to spot. Put your wipers on and turn the ignition off with the blades straight up. On the right side of each wiper blade base, Look for a small piece of metal that is bent upwards, by small I mean about the tip of a small straight edge screw driver. Pry it away from the wiper base until a larger "O" from that clip appears, then put the small screwdriver into the "O" and pry that away from the base until that clip opens up even more. When it is opened you need to fiddle around moving whole blade until it slides upward off the base. Do not loose the small key that is inside the assembly! it decides where the blade sits so you don't have to guess which thread it was on last. I hope that made sense, I'll take pictures for you if you'd like. I'll be working on it soon so it won't be a problem, let me know.
Off work in 15 minutes :burnout:
Rider90
03-14-2006, 05:50 PM
Rear end girdle installed, KDW2s mounted and balanced, and the rims are back on :cool: Man is it sweet. I drove around for a couple hours in traffic, I'll drive more tonight, but we're at 80 miles with the blower on. I goosed it and concluded my rear tires will NOT last long at all - but it's so addicting. I came to a turn and had the oppurtunity to merge so I goosed the pedal to about 3/4 after the turn and holy @#*!! smoke was clouding the street, I wasn't going anywhere and the interior smelled like rubber...
I can get used to this.
Rider90
03-14-2006, 05:56 PM
I also wanted to add that my temp gauge on the cluster is at:
http://midwestpanthers.net/badazz/temp2.jpg
And my ScanGauge is at 190*F - Normal. I've worked all the air out of the system, I suspect a faulty aftermarket coolant temperature sensor *cough*wells*cough* I'll be replacing that soon...
MaLo03
03-14-2006, 06:09 PM
IT'S ALIVE
Details to follow later :banana2:
YEAH.............CANT WAIT FOR THE VIDEO:woohoo:
Marauder2005
03-14-2006, 06:16 PM
Very cool, I would love a S/C. Now, please tell me your address so
I can check yours out ;)
Enjoy your 4,500lbs rocket-ship :2thumbs:
Jerry Barnes
03-14-2006, 06:41 PM
Rider90,
Great pictures, great thread, great job on the install! Congratulations!!! I am very sorry I could not be there when you picked up the kit. I really wanted to help load the kit in your car. As you can see there are so many great people on this site that give great advice. I love the step by step pictures. Very happy you are pleased with the results. Based the the number of kits we have sold this last week, it's going to be a great summer! We need to visit Chicago and hang out at Joliet. All of us at Trilogy are happy to have you as a customer!!!
Drive carefully!!!
Jerry
Eric91Z
03-14-2006, 07:20 PM
Thanks for this thread!!! I really hope to get a chance to check your car out sometime this summer. Not only have you made me want a Trilogy even more, but your pictures of the Metco, Naake, and BFG products you are installing have made me want those even more, too. Baby steps for some of us, but big steps for you. Congrats on a great car and can't wait for the video of this and the after math!!! :burnout:
Rider90
03-14-2006, 08:55 PM
Jerry,
The effort, time, and money that went into the proper development of such parts was not overlooked during my installation. When I started the installation I expected frustration and for the car to be a sore spot in a discussion until it was complete. The reality was completely different, the car was a pleasure to work on, the kit was a pleasure to assemble, and I would not mind doing it all over again. The parts that took the most time were the EGR tube and maybe the cooling/vacuum lines, but it sure was great to stand back and look at it all coming together. This is the most money I have invested in my Marauder at any one time and for the cost of the supercharger kit I felt every dime spent was worth it. Thanks to your long hours in the shop at Trilogy (Or so Donna tells me) the money invested in parts and the time taken to sort out bolts, nuts, washers, to label everything and to create a manual that leaves no room for guessing, is greatly appreciated and did not go un-noticed.
My car is completely transformed. I can drive it around town without hearing the blower or goose it and zoom past the next three, four, five cars with ease. The blower whine turns so many heads its flattering, just leaning into it at the light I could watch the people on the sidewalk turn around and see what's going on. All of a sudden I have cars and SUVs catching up to me in traffic to get a better look, I don't think they can see through my front tint, but I can see them gawking - Looking for some emblem or symbol to represent the sickness bolted under the hood.
So a public thank you for you and the team at Trilogy, thanks. I don't think my rear tires are as thankful.
Eric, Pat, and everyone else that has brought this thread to 2,000+ views, I'm glad I could help you either make a decision, dream a little more, or spike some curiousity about the parts that come with the kit. I never searched to see if anyone has gone into detail this far, but not too far - I'm not creating the new install manual, but enough for you to read and have an equal amount of eye candy to look at. I also appreciate the time all of you have taken to post thank you's or comments in this thread, I'm glad that my camera and hands could be of service for you people across the U.S.A.
My SCT tuner "Box" came with a Trilogy Tune and a "Mid-Grade" fuel tune. As we speak I'm on the mid-grade fuel tune as I am unsure about the winter blend around here and I just want to be safe. When it gets warm I'll use the "Trilogy Tune" Do you think I'll notice a performance difference?
Bobby Clobber
03-14-2006, 10:54 PM
Jason,
Congrats man ,you have made me so anxious. we are starting on Friday, and I can't wait.Sounds like you got everything you wanted and more, I love it!!!
I know you're busy and have posted more than anyone should expect , but if you were to start again with the install is there one piece of advice that you would pass on to the #120 guy that would make a difference or would make it easier.
Thanks again for all the documentation and dialogue, it was fun to be a part of it even if from afar, all the best.:burnout: :burnout:
Bob.
Dave Compson
03-15-2006, 04:22 AM
I really appreciate the time and effort you put into taking the photos and posting your notes. It really makes me want the trilogy setup even more. I just need to get off my butt and come up with the funds to get the kit. Thanks again.
03MERCMARAUDER
03-18-2006, 12:57 PM
Gald you got your car on the road. Like it has been said, thamks for all the pics of your install. Seeing you car really makes me want a trilogy even more
Joe
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