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[Dennis Reinhart]

I now have the capabilaty to reflash uour EEC, the advatage of this, is no chip is installed the dealer will never know, the dissadvantage is you have to send me the EEC,

[cyled]

But we would loose the value of having the ability to switch different modes, correct? Would that make this a cheaper solution though?
Also, did you buy chance see a post I had in another thread about a compay that makes a module for diesel trucks. The perfromance is determined by the Overdrive Switch. I just though it was interesting. The nice thing it was on the fly. You did not have to turn off the car to make the switch. Just another challenge. :D

[Dennis Reinhart]

Originally posted by cyled
But we would loose the value of having the ability to switch different modes, correct?

Well if you have a single program why would you switch it OFF

Would that make this a cheaper solution though?
Also, did you buy chance see a post I had in another thread about a compay that makes a module for diesel trucks. The perfromance is determined by the Overdrive Switch. I just though it was interesting.

I also do flip chips for Ford Diesel trucks


The nice thing it was on the fly. You did not have to turn off the car to make the switch. Just another challenge. :D

If its Ford Lincoln or Mercury its no challenge

[JohnE]

The diablo and superchip based dual program chips can be switched on the fly as well. Easy as you make it by locating the switch.

I have premium and regular fuel modes on mine. If I ever experience a slight detonation, all I have to do is switch to the other mode.

[cyled]

Originally posted by Dennis Reinhart
If its Ford Lincoln or Mercury its no challenge

So, then you could have it keyed off of the overdrive switch? That would be very cool.. Power at the push of your thumb....

[Dennis Reinhart]

Originally posted by JohnE
The diablo and superchip based dual program chips can be switched on the fly as well. Easy as you make it by locating the switch.

I have premium and regular fuel modes on mine. If I ever experience a slight detonation, all I have to do is switch to the other mode.

I used to to sell Superchips years ago, I still sell there Diesel programers, which plug into the diagnostic port and you can upload either a 60/90 HP program which is slick. Diablo is working on this to. I used to also sell Diablo red chips and I know people in both companies and talk to them on a regualar basis.

I have my own independent tuning. I use what is called as bin formatt. I use a blank Delta chip made by Diablo sold to independent tuners.

I cannot put Diablo cri files on there black chips, I can put there cri files on there red chips, Diablo does sell Black chips with there cri files to people to market the chips as there own brand/tuning, but in reality its Diablo files and tuning. I dont agree with this, but I dont own there company either.

Now the Delta chip can be set to switch on the Fly. I do this all the time.

[jwheeler]

Dennis, if the ECC was flashed instead of using a chip, could that program be inadvertently wiped out by the dealer if they were to flash an update?

Very Curious
-J;)

[Dennis Reinhart]

Originally posted by jwheeler
Dennis, if the ECC was flashed instead of using a chip, could that program be inadvertently wiped out by the dealer if they were to flash an update?

Very Curious
-J;)

Yes but its the same case with a chip to. Right now there are four EEC codes for the Marauder FDH2 BMDO CRD0 CRD1 each chip is burnt for the coresponding calibration code, so for example if you had CRD0 and its reflashed to CRD1 of course the old chip will not work, but you can send it back and I can re'burn the chip.



Dennis

[jwheeler]

Dennis, I'm going in to have a reflash for cold start issues soon. How will I know what code they change it to after the flash? I want to get this done before I schedule a time to come visit you within the next 30 days or so for a few upgrades.

-J :banana:

[Dennis Reinhart]

Well normally they put the TSB code on a clear label and place it some where under the hood, or you can ask the technitian to use his NGS or similar quipment to give you the EEC hex code, and I should be able to make the chip from that, worst case you can overnight me the EEC and I send it back the same day and I can read the EEC.


Dennis

[jwheeler]

Thanks Dennis! I will be making the journey to see you in person when I acquire the required funds. It sounds like you can just read my ecc when I'm at your shop.


-J :D

[Reaper948]

just by this thread shows how much i dont know about cars....

[looking97233]

Dennis, how much does a new blank EEC cost? That would 'fix' any problems that could come from 'the unauthorized use of chips'

You could take the stock EEC, wrap in anti-static bag, put on shelf in garage, just in case there is ever a problem.

[RCSignals]

Originally posted by Dennis Reinhart
Right now there are four EEC codes for the Marauder FDH2 BMDO CRD0 CRD1


Dennis

Dennis, is there somewhere that lists the changes of each of these codes over the previous?
From posts it sounds like the FDH2 wasn't a great performer.
Which of the remaining three are better, performance wise, if any?

[Dennis Reinhart]

FDH2 was the first calibration a neww EEC is about 200.00

[RoyLPita]

Dennis,
Could the PCM be re-flashed for even tire size (all 235/50 18s)and traction control default setting to off? Also, what is your price for the reflashing? From your experience, Is there any performance difference if a MM is equipped w/California Emmissions?

[martyo]

For $200.00 bucks it might be worth buying one that is intact (the knock out plate is not missing) and putting that in when the car goes in for service. Then use the one that came with the car (and now is missing the knock out plate --- a tell tale sign of our mods) for a re-burn by Dennis. Then, there will be no fear that the Dealer will ever wipe out Dennis's handiwork or be able to tell that the car had a new program in it.

Just something to think about....

[mtnh]

Where is the odometer kept? Would it be logging onto the PCM? Is the EEC part of the PCM, or is it the same part? That $200 price sounds too inexpensive for a complete PCM.

thanks,

Mike

[Dennis Reinhart]

Is the EEC part of the PCM, or is it the same part? That $200 price sounds too inexpensive for a complete PCM.

thanks,

Mike [/B][/QUOTE]

Yes Michael the EEC = PCM and if you can buy it for less let me know

[MAD-3R]

Ford wants to charge me $294 for a new on on the estemate they gave me.

[jefferson-mo]

$200 for a PCM is cheaper than I can get it and I work at the dealer!
Also don't forget there's a $100 core charge on top of that......

Dennis....what about the PATS program? If I send you a spare PCM do I re-do the PATS myself?

[Dennis Reinhart]

yes but I may be able to save that from your old EEC if not pats will have to be redone

[schuvwj]

Originally posted by Dennis Reinhart
I now have the capabilaty to reflash uour EEC, the advatage of this, is no chip is installed the dealer will never know, the dissadvantage is you have to send me the EEC,

Dennis can you purchase the ECM, re-program, and ship?

Just wondering if you could provide the whole package.

Thanks!

[CRUZTAKER]

Originally posted by schuvwj
Dennis can you purchase the ECM, re-program, and ship?

Just wondering if you could provide the whole package.

Thanks!

Dennis:

I like this idea too. $200 for a spare and your fee to flash it is a good deal, and a good piece of mind. I would still keep your chip in though. Just keep the new one for that special occation.


Wait for reply.....thanks :up:

PS: Your buddy in Girard is hooking me up. Sure appreciate the info.

[DLoreanMARAUDER]

so If you reprogram My existing PCM, there will be ABSOLUTLY NO WAY FOR THE DEALER TO TELL? I like the sound of that. I wanted to go with the chip, but was concerned about the dealer bitc*ing and voiding my warranty. if it is impossible for delaers to tell, then IM IN! one more question, If I send you my PCM overnight how long will it take to reflash and ship out? need to know, Cause obviously the car cant be drivin with out the PCM so i would have to take my daily driver off the road for ???? amount of days? can you give out an estimate of the PCM reflash or should I call You?Thanks
-Tony

[Shizat]

When I send the chip away to you to get programmed how long does it take to get back and can the dealer tell if you have had the engine moded? My friend bought a chip but he could program it himself and switch back and forth from the moded version to his stock.

[Mad4Macs]

Mr Reinhart, count me in as one of the guys asking for a "PCM package". For many reasons, I want to be able to return my car to "bone stock" condition. I feel that having the ability to do so only enhances the resale value of a car. It sure looks like a number of us would like to be able to buy a complete, flashed PCM from you!
Thanks.

[sailsmen]

I have a reinhart chip and am very happy with it. I also looked into purchasing a spare PCM.

I have not because I was told the following but I do not know if it is correct;
1) the new PCM will need to be programed to match the mileage on my vehicle
2) the dealer can read that the new PCM is not the one that came with my vehicle
3) purchasing the PCM from your dealer and sending in your core will be on the dealers computer as your original PCM as having been replaced.

If someone knows if the above is correct please advise.

I think the most prudent course of action is in the event of engine failure to have the vehicle towed to your home to analize what the best course of action is.

[Dennis Reinhart]

Originally posted by sailsmen
I have a reinhart chip and am very happy with it. I also looked into purchasing a spare PCM.

I have not because I was told the following but I do not know if it is correct;
1) the new PCM will need to be programed to match the mileage on my vehicle
This is not true

2) the dealer can read that the new PCM is not the one that came with my vehicle

This is not true what is true is hou have to reinstall the pats with the PCM so you have to have Ford to it unless you have a 4000$ NGS laying around or 30K WDS

3) purchasing the PCM from your dealer and sending in your core will be on the dealers computer as your original PCM as having been replaced. They dont care what core you turn in so you can get one from a junk yard

Dennis

If someone knows if the above is correct please advise.

I think the most prudent course of action is in the event of engine failure to have the vehicle towed to your home to analize what the best course of action is.

[CRUZTAKER]

^^^:confused:^^^

Was that a yes?

[Shizat]

I thought the new technology out was that when you install the moded chip on your car that your stock information is saved on the computer system and then if you wanted to go back stock all you had to do was put back on your old stock information and it was as if your car was never moded in the first place.

[RF Overlord]

****at:

When Dennis's chip is installed, it tells the ECM to use HIS spark and fuel tables as long as the chip is present. If you unplug the chip, you should reset the ECM by disconnecting the battery for 10-15 minutes, then the ECM reverts to its original factory programming.

The problem is that installation of the chip requires modifying the ECM cover by removing a "window" that allows access to the connector the chip plugs onto. When you remove the chip, that "window" is left open, so the dealer can see that something was there at one time, or at least that someone fooled with it.

[JohnE]

There are many items stored in your factory EEC's. They store a copy of the sofware loaded into you Lighting Control Module, A/C Controller module, PATS codes, etc. Many of these items are there as backups, in case the other modules die and need replacement. The Ford hand held tool that the dealers use to program keys & stuff can access it and load to other devices.

But, none of the above actually matters. Backup copies are just backups. PATS can be turned off. And if something very bad happens, be smart enough to swap EEC's back before the trip to the dealer.

[vegasmarauder]

Ok, Now I got confused.

Option 1, I get a new EEC and send it to Dennis, he reflashes it and I put it in. Does my PATS still work?, If not, does it have to be reprogramed by FORD (then they know it's not the original one).

Option2, I send my original EEC to Dennis and reflash it and then if there is a problem the dealer doesn't readily see it's been changed. I assume there will be some way to read it and tell it's not the original setting.

What I want to do, is get the new EEC from Ford, send it to Dennis for reflash, install it and forget about it. But I like the PATS system being operational.

I live in one of the highest auto theft cities (Las Vegas), so I like the extra protection of the PATS (along with alarm I installed).

By the way, cost is just relative to how fast you want to go, so the difference in cost isn't that big a deal..