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MI2QWK4U
06-04-2006, 05:05 PM
Anyone in Michigan in the market for a nice compact handgun? The only reason I limit it to Michigan is that I have no idea how to sell a handgun out of state, as I am not a FFL Dealer. I am getting rid of my Stainless Steel Walther PPK/S .380 semi automatic. It's a good firing weapon and I carry it quite a bit, as it is very concealable. Comes with hard shell storage case, a spare magazine (total of 2 mags). It also comes with 150-200 rounds of copper round nose ammo, 100 rounds of HydraShok High Performance Hollowpoint ammo, a leather inside the pants holster, Pachmryr grips along with the factory grips. Brand new they sell for $550, I am looking for $400, a good deal with the extras and ammo. In Michigan you will need a purchase permit from your local Police Department, any questions, PM me...thanks.

http://www.waltheramerica.com/images/firearms/PPKS_380_sm.jpg

PPK/S TECHNICAL DATA

CALIBER: .380 ACP
BARREL LENGTH: 3.3"
DIMENSIONS inches L/H/W: 6.1/4.3/.98
WEIGHT w/o mag: 22.4 oz.
SIGHTS: Fixed Fixed
MAGAZINE CAPACITY: 7 + 1
TRIGGER: DA/SA
TRIGGER WEIGHT lbs: 13/4

MarauderMark
06-04-2006, 05:10 PM
http://www.waltheramerica.com/images/firearms/PPKS_380_sm.jpg

Nice lookin personal piece.1 question you need a permit to buy the gun or to carry it or both?

MI2QWK4U
06-04-2006, 05:18 PM
It's a great carry piece, good for a backup or an off duty gun. In Michigan you need a purchase permit to buy from a private citizen. If you have a Concealed Weapon Permit, it can serve as a purchase permit if you buy from a Federal Firearm Licensed Gun Dealer. Michigan requires a general carry CCW permit to carry concealed. However, several states are working towards total reciprocity with each other, which means depending on what state, the two states agree to honor each others CCW Permits.


A Michigan concealed pistol licensee who wishes to carry a concealed pistol in another state is responsible for complying with the laws of that state
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Michigan's concealed pistol law expressly recognizes permits issued by other states to its residents. MCL 28.432a. However, non-residents are subject to the Michigan law while carrying a pistol in Michigan, including those restricting where pistols may be carried, the implied consent provision, disclosure to a peace officer when stopped, and carrying while under the influence. A non-resident should acquaint himself or herself with the Michigan law before carrying a concealed pistol in Michigan.



Similarly, a Michigan concealed pistol licensee who wishes to carry a concealed pistol in another state is responsible for complying with the laws of that state. In an effort to identify which states recognize Michigan issued concealed pistol licenses, each state was contacted by the Attorney General.


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Those that recognize Michigan issued permits are:

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Colorado
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Idaho
Indiana
Kentucky
Louisiana
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
New Hampshire
New Mexico
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Vermont (does not require carry permits by residents or non residents)
Virginia
Washington
Wyoming


Again, anyone traveling in one of these states needs to check their laws, which in many instances are available on that state's website.


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Those states who do not recognize non resident permits are:

California
Connecticut
Hawaii
Illinois
Iowa
Kansas
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Minnesota
Nebraska
Nevada
New Jersey
New York
Oregon
Rhode Island
Wisconsin

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Several states have indicated that they will recognize Michigan permit upon entry of a reciprocity agreement. Those are:

West Virginia


We have advised those states that we wish to enter into such agreements and will sign them as soon as they are received.


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Some states allow for the application for a temporary CCW permit issued by that state or local unit of government. Others exempt law enforcement officers.

Federal law expressly provides that persons may carry a firearm in their vehicles while traveling through another state provided that the possession of the weapon is legal in both the states of origin and destination and the weapon is unloaded and carried in the trunk of the vehicle or a locked container other than the glove box. See 18 U.S.C. 926a

MM2004
06-04-2006, 05:41 PM
Dave,

Nice lookin' piece!

Is that the actual image of the weapon for sale?

Any holster wear?

Mike.

MI2QWK4U
06-04-2006, 05:55 PM
Dave,

Nice lookin' piece!

Is that the actual image of the weapon for sale?

Any holster wear?

Mike.


It is a pic of what I have from the Walther website. Mine is in mint condition, no wear, scratches, or marks. I like stainless, so easy to keep up and keep looking like new.

DEFYANT
06-04-2006, 06:46 PM
PM sent.


OOOOPS!!:D :P

KillJoy
06-04-2006, 06:53 PM
You can sell out of State. You just need a signed in ink copy of the reciepient's receiving FFL in order to ship it. I usually have a local FFL ship it for me. Then it's all nice and legal ;)

KillJoy

DEFYANT
06-04-2006, 07:02 PM
You can sell out of State. You just need a signed in ink copy of the reciepient's receiving FFL in order to ship it. I usually have a local FFL ship it for me. Then it's all nice and legal ;)

KillJoy

This answers a question I had. Thanks.

Now, what does FFL mean? :o

KillJoy
06-04-2006, 07:05 PM
FFL = Federal Firearms License. Any gun shop has one. Most will charge a small fee to send / receive a firearm , plus any shipping charges.

It really isn't much of a hassle to sell out of state. Done it, litterally, more times that I can remember.

KillJoy

MI2QWK4U
06-04-2006, 07:10 PM
FFL = Federal Firearms License. Any gun shop has one. Most will charge a small fee to send / receive a firearm , plus any shipping charges.

It really isn't much of a hassle to sell out of state. Done it, litterally, more times that I can remember.

KillJoy


Thanks for the info, thats kindof what I thought had to happen...one FFL shipping to another FFL.

KillJoy
06-04-2006, 07:14 PM
Thanks for the info, thats kindof what I thought had to happen...one FFL shipping to another FFL.

You don't "HAVE" to, but I like to. That way, your FFL signs it into their Books. Signs it out, and ships it to their FFL. They sign it into their Books and then sign it out to the Buyer.

Paper trail the whole way! My preferred option. Here in Ohio, you can sell to another Ohioan w/o any paperwork, it they are legally allowed to own. Unless you REALLY know the person, I always advise against it. Especially if the firearm is in YOUR name!

KillJoy

Marauderjack
06-05-2006, 03:52 AM
I had an FFL for 20 years until Clinton came up with his brilliant $5000.00 license fee and a "Store Front" requirement!!:argue:

I don't know what the requirements are now but didn't want or need the hassle...sent it back and never looked back but I had a lot of fun with firearms during that period!!:beer:

I carry a Kel Tec double action 9MM almost everywhere I go....GREAT small hand gun that packs a whollop!!:bows: .380's and .25's sometimes aren't up to the task so the 9MM with Golden Sabres (Black Tallon type) is my first choice!!;)

As stated before you can ship it almost anywhere FFL to FFL.:)

What are you replacing the .380 with??:confused:

Good Luck!!

Marauderjack:burnout: