New Nittos and Wide Rims....

[greggash]

I just got home with the new rubber on the car. I had the shop spin the rims alone to check for any wobble....there was none. The Nitto 295/45/18 is a bit shorter than the 255/55/18 I was riding on so needless to say, I will be adjusting the tire size with the Xcal2 to compensate for the smaller than stock rubber.(more revs per mile)

It does stick to the ground alot more than before.
It felt heavier than usual but smooth. In general the car is about a half inch lower (maybe more) than it was before.

Off to MOROSO to test out the new traction (Mid July)


On a side note: Any one with widened Marauder rims should take a picture of the car and send it to Weldcraft Wheels, they have a new web site and are asking for photos for their gallery

P.S. when I got home I found a screw in my Brand new tires....lucky thing it was only half inch or less and didn't hit any internal organs:bows:

[Rick-n-Miami]

I told you it was a good upgrade :)

Just be careful at the track. When you're pushing a lot of power, it's very easy to over power these tires. They are not the drag radials!

[Marauderman]

I told you it was a good upgrade :)

Just be careful at the track. When you're pushing a lot of power, it's very easy to over power these tires. They are not the drag radials!

Would you please explain Y o u r thoughts regarding your statement here--cause I don't want to put words into anything ---but I would appreciate what you mean--althoght I think I already know--thanks-----Tom

[BigMerc]

you mean the Nitto drag radials are NOT drag radials? I'm at a loss on that one too.

I run nitto's on widened rims and proper tire pressure makes them hook great. sooooooooooo not sure

[melfunkshun]

Nitto 295/45's are NOT drag radials

Nitto 305/45's are drag radials

[fonsito]

How can i get the oversize rims??

[Rick-n-Miami]

I'm at a loss too. Can't you guys read? Those are the Nitto 555's, not the drag radials.




you mean the Nitto drag radials are NOT drag radials? I'm at a loss on that one too.

I run nitto's on widened rims and proper tire pressure makes them hook great. sooooooooooo not sure

[Breadfan]

Yes, the 555's are NOT drag radials, the 295's mentioned above are street tires.

The Nitto street tires will not have the same grip as the Nitto DR's, or other DR's. (DR's = drag radials)

Just becuase you widen the tires don't expect super grip. After borrowing Merc's BFG dr's and then his 295 Nitto's (non-DR's) I found the 245 series BFG drag radials he had to have more grip than the 295 Nitto streets.

Sure the 295 Nittos were much better than my 245 BFG KWDS OEM tires.

But, the point is, compound of the tire has a very large impact on grip, more so perhaps than the width of the tire alone.

Merc has run his 295 Nitto's at the track, and reported that while not as grippy as drag radials, he was able to get quite consistent launches with them.

[SergntMac]

It can be (and has been) confusing. You need to know a bit about the line of tires offered by Nitto. The shorthand we use among ourselves contributes to this confusion.

[greggash]

How can i get the oversize rims??

You could call weld craft

[Marauderman]

I'm at a loss too. Can't you guys read? Those are the Nitto 555's, not the drag radials.
Thanks Rick--I thought you were referring to the 295's on the track when you meantioned "over powering" them ......but wanted to make sure--so others wouldn't be confused---I have both as well.. thanks again Rick...

[BigMerc]

The clouds part and the sun shines......I can see clearly now.

[duhtroll]

I'll be making a choce this winter - send my wheels in for widening and getting the 295s, or it seems I now have the choice of just getting two other wheels and mounting drag radials on them for use at the track only.

Since I don't do much track racing I think the 295s/widening is the better choice.

I can assume there is a significant difference in grip with the 295s vs the OEM street tires?

I looked it up and got 143 different threads, so it's a bit confusing.

[sweetair]

For what it's worth, I've got the 295's street radials. I don't do much track time so it made sense for me. I love them and will do it again the next time around as well. To each their own.

[MarauderTJA]

Congrats Greg on getting your new tires and wheels. You will enjoy them I'm sure.

[HwyCruiser]

I've been running the 295 Nitto NTs and they aren't anywhere as sticky as the 305 Nitto drag radials. After I wore off the newness they have been pretty easy to overpower, to the point that I really have to temper the throttle in 1st gear or the engine will zing right up to the rev limiter.

That being said and having driven both, I'd trust the NTs on wet and cooler pavement much more than the drag radials, but for putting the hammer down in the right conditions DRs win hands down. I wouldn't even want to try the NTs at the track. Sometimes compromise is a real b*tch.

[Marauderjack]

How are you going to adjust the speedo when the rev's per mile difference is only 8 revs between the OEM's and Nittos (726/734)......around 1%....your speedo error is plus or minus 2-3 MPH at 60 ??:confused:

I left mine as "stock" and the speedo is dead on at 60 with my GPs so I didn't bother with it!!:beer:

BTW.....The OEM crappy tires had NO GRIP with stock gears after the blower install (never could spin them at all N/A) and the Nitto 295's are WAY better but you really have to pay attention to what you are doing in the rain!!:eek:

Marauderjack:burnout:

[sailsmen]

I'll be making a choce this winter - send my wheels in for widening and getting the 295s, or it seems I now have the choice of just getting two other wheels and mounting drag radials on them for use at the track only.

Since I don't do much track racing I think the 295s/widening is the better choice.

I can assume there is a significant difference in grip with the 295s vs the OEM street tires?

I looked it up and got 143 different threads, so it's a bit confusing.

If you are not getting DR than I would not widen the rims. Both Smoky and I have gotten 1.8 60' times w/ the KDW2 on the rear.

[duhtroll]

I have not been able to get below 2.0 in the 60' with my mods (see timeslip page 3) and the KDW2s. I have tried everything. Melting them, no melting them, punching it, walking it, loading it, you name it. I know something is wrong but I can't figure it out. Maybe it's the track prep -- dunno. I'm a relative noob for racing.

One thing is for sure. Wider can't hurt.

EDIT: Add all types of PSI differences from 20 all the way up to 30 for racing.


If you are not getting DR than I would not widen the rims. Both Smoky and I have gotten 1.8 60' times w/ the KDW2 on the rear.

[ctrlraven]

How much does Weld Craft charge to widen the wheels? I'd just like to have better grip while on the street but then switch over to some CV steelies with DRs on them for the track. My MM is a daily driver and rather not drive in the rain with 305 DRs on lol.

[Marauderman]

Me and "Glenn" on our board here just got some 18x10's Mustang 2005 +Deep Dish Bullitt Wheels from AmericanMuscial.com-------they fit perfect for the 305 DR's and clear the rear shocks a bunch-super and super looking-check them out-will solve your problems and cheaper than widen another set of wheels.......

[BruteForce]

Me and "Glenn" on our board here just got some 18x10's Mustang 2005 +Deep Dish Bullitt Wheels from AmericanMuscial.com-------they fit perfect for the 305 DR's and clear the rear shocks a bunch-super and super looking-check them out-will solve your problems and cheaper than widen another set of wheels.......

Can you narrow that down to a specific model rim? There are a bunch of 18x10 rims there with varying offsets, etc.

http://www.americanmuscle.com/18inchwheels.html

[Marauderman]

Can you narrow that down to a specific model rim? There are a bunch of 18x10 rims there with varying offsets, etc.

http://www.americanmuscle.com/18inchwheels.html

I chose the "Anthracite 2005+ Deep Dish Bullitt Wheel (18x10)"----oh yeah--
45 off set----they had a sale going on --and look great--I'll see if I can upload some pics in my folder.....Glenn has post some pics of his......note--when looking at their web page--scrool further down --you should find them ........Tom

Post EDIT:: Check my Gallery--I posted some pics of the wheels--

[Smokie]

I have not been able to get below 2.0 in the 60' with my mods (see timeslip page 3) and the KDW2s. I have tried everything. Melting them, no melting them, punching it, walking it, loading it, you name it. I know something is wrong but I can't figure it out. Maybe it's the track prep -- dunno. I'm a relative noob for racing.

One thing is for sure. Wider can't hurt.

EDIT: Add all types of PSI differences from 20 all the way up to 30 for racing.

I never had 60' times below 2.00 while N/A, not many people have actually. I may be wrong but I don't think anyone here got 60' times under 2.00 with stocks wheels and street tires.

The problem lies in how much you have to load your engine and still not loose traction. Any kind of flaw in the launch with our cars will make it nearly impossible to get the 60' times under 2.00.

[Marauderman]

I chose the "Anthracite 2005+ Deep Dish Bullitt Wheel (18x10)"----oh yeah--
45 off set----they had a sale going on --and look great--I'll see if I can upload some pics in my folder.....Glenn has post some pics of his......note--when looking at their web page--scrool further down --you should find them ........Tom

Post EDIT:: Check my Gallery--I posted some pics of the wheels--

OK --check my gallery--you may like what you see--Glenn and I do!!!!!

[sailsmen]

I have not been able to get below 2.0 in the 60' with my mods (see timeslip page 3) and the KDW2s. I have tried everything. Melting them, no melting them, punching it, walking it, loading it, you name it. I know something is wrong but I can't figure it out. Maybe it's the track prep -- dunno. I'm a relative noob for racing.

One thing is for sure. Wider can't hurt.

EDIT: Add all types of PSI differences from 20 all the way up to 30 for racing.


N/A on a cool nite 1.961 was my best w/ KDW2.