Okay, you Navy guys (esp Sub Mariners)

[Donny Carlson]

I know this is Russian, but what class is it? Frickin huge, imo, and seems a tad too close to shore to be safe. Pic looks to be taken at some Baltic beach resort. At least I hope. If this is off the coast of the USA, I would be crapping myself.

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/downloadsnew/cj_58654.jpg

[ex00p71]

Well I'm not in any branch of the millitary, but I'm pretty sure that's a typhoon class submarine used for launching ICBMs, I think they are the largest submarines in the world. From what I heard the Russian's don't have enough money to keep these things running.

[hitchhiker]

OK. Whose secret project is that?

:D

[shakes_26]

Typhoon, double hull, like two side by side subs inside an outer layer. Makes an Ohio boomer look small.... and that is like calling a Saturn V a nice bottle rocket.

[fastblackmerc]

What kind of S/C can I put on that thing? :D :D

[Leadfoot281]

Well I'm not in any branch of the millitary, but I'm pretty sure that's a typhoon class submarine used for launching ICBMs, I think they are the largest submarines in the world. From what I heard the Russian's don't have enough money to keep these things running.

I wonder if they'd like to take a nice Minnesota farm in trade for one?

Bow down before the all-mighty Leadfoot!

Spare parts? No problem! I'll bet North Korea would happily "donate" the money I'd need to keep going...or face a serious nuclear a$$whipping!

[Haggis]

Donny you found the 'Red October'.

[juno]

I cannot see the Pic, but Marc is probably on the money. The Typhoon is a Monster.
Heck of a target anyway. You can bet that they don't go anywhere without an American or British fast attack on their tail or in their baffles with a target solution. :gunfire:

[Bluerauder]

You can bet that they don't go anywhere without an American or British fast attack on their tail or in their baffles with a target solution. :gunfire:
Looks like lots of folks remember the movie. :rolleyes: One Ping only, Please. :ping: :rofl:

[Mebot]

Those pictures look photochopped. Reminds me of the helicopter picture with the shark jumping out of the water.

[merc]

Those pictures look photochopped. Reminds me of the helicopter picture with the shark jumping out of the water.

The “Typhoon” itself was included in the Guinness Record Book at beginning of the 1980s. Its total displacement makes up about 33,000 tons; it carries 24 ballistic missiles capable of being launched underwater. Six submarines of this kind were constructed in Severodvinsk. The sub launched today is the oldest of its kind: it is already more than twenty years old. The unique sub was a response to the US’s construction of the “Ohio” nuclear submarine with 24 ballistic missiles on board. However, the “Typhoon,” constructed at Russia’s famous design bureau Rubin under the guidance of famous designer Spassky, surpassed the “Ohio”: The “Typhoon” is still the largest submarine in the world. Yes, this is a photochopped picture.

Length: Approx. 574 ft (175 m)
Beam: 75 ft (23 m)
Draft: 38 ft (12 m) Displacement: 33,800 tons
Crew: 150
Armament: 6 torpedo tubes, 20 ballistic missiles
First Sub Commissioned: December 12, 1981
Maximum Speed: Approx. 27 knots (31 mph/50 kph)


What kind of S/C can I put on that thing? :D :D

It is nuclear powered, with twin reactors and steam turbines, producing 190 MW of power. This drives its twin screws with enough power for the ship to attain submerged speeds of approximately 25-27 knots.


Donny you found the 'Red October'.

Alfa class submarines (especially the fictional V. K. Konovalov) feature in Tom Clancy’s novels, The Hunt For Red October and Red Storm Rising. It also appears in Bruce Sterling’s novel Islands In The Net.

[juno]

Looks like lots of folks remember the movie. :rolleyes: One Ping only, Please. :ping: :rofl:


Yes, I have seen the movie, but my answer was from real life operational tactics.
3-1/2 years on the Francis Scott Key, we did the testing and the first official 'Trident' deterrent patrol with the first generation Trident missile.

I spent the next 3-1/2 years as an instructor in upstate NY qualifying operators on the reactor plant at the Trident prototype.

I know Marc was an ex-navy nuke also, so I knew he would recognize the photo.

[juno]

Alfa class submarines (especially the fictional V. K. Konovalov) feature in Tom Clancy’s novels, The Hunt For Red October and Red Storm Rising. It also appears in Bruce Sterling’s novel Islands In The Net.

Red october was some mythical (at the time)special drive .
The one that shot itself with the torpedo at the end was an Alpha. Titanium hull, 2500 foot operating depth. 50 knots underwater or something like that.
Another scary sub. A US sub would have to make some 'adjustments' to shoot one of those.

It's amazing what you can build if you don't give a crap about shielding the crew from the reactor.

They built some awsome subs, but they were noisy and we were not. We knew where they were almost all the time and all they knew was that we were out there somewhere.

[Donny Carlson]

Yeah, I figured they were fakes. Very unlikely a sub of that size getting so close to shore. Bad form to beach it on a sand bar.

[Bluerauder]

Bad form to beach it on a sand bar.
There are only two "real" Hard-and-Fast rules in the Navy .....

1. Don't stick anyone with the pointy end.
2. Don't ever touch the bottom.

Breach of one or both of these rules is grounds for relief and loss of command.

[DirtyDog]

Looks like Delta lll class. They are from the 1980's, put in reserve and then they reactivated 3 or 4 of them in 2001.

[TAF]

What's long, and hard...and full of "sea-men"?

[jabird56]

Actually, the TYPHOON only operates out of the North Fleet and I don't think they have any type of resort beaches up there. There was a show on DISCOVERY a few years ago about the TYPHOON and they were allowed on board.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/typhoon/

[Donny Carlson]

What's long, and hard...and full of "sea-men"?

:lol: :lol: :bows: :bows:

You asking for a name. I have a suggestion. Or two.:)

[Donny Carlson]

I'll take summer heat, dogs, and heavy mail volume any day over this:

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/typhoon/images/typhoon7.jpg (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/typhoon/index.html#typhoon1)

Yeesh, that looks cold!

Now, imagine you have a massive case of gas from the borscht you had for breakfast and decide
to have mercy on your crewmates and yourself by having a serious release outside during
watch change over. You lift one leg to facilitate the process, lose balance, and start sliding sideways
on deck ice. Seconds later you find yourself reinacting the scene from Titanic, only no fat chick or
large piece of wood cabin trim floatin nearby to grab hold of to keep afloat. Yuri and Boris are still
inside, smoking American cigarettes and commenting on how foul your farts are this morning.

[Mad4Macs]

I'll take summer heat, dogs, and heavy mail volume any day over this:

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/typhoon/images/typhoon7.jpg (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/typhoon/index.html#typhoon1)

Yeesh, that looks cold!



Yeah, you should have seen me when my orders were cut for the Birmingham (SSN-695). On my dream sheet, I had asked for a fast attack out of Pearl Harbor, and that's exactly what I got!
:banana: :banana: :banana:

Oh, and as for that original pic? The bulk of a sub, like an iceberg, stayed submerged (even when she's surfaced), so unless that particular boat is just off the continental shelf, it's a fake :D

[chrish]

everthing soviet is so out dated & primitive .All there mechanical systems suck.
Can you think of any hot cars from there? Is this the same sub all those crewmen died in a few years back?

[rocknrod]

When I was on the Kitty Hawk, we rolled right over the top of a Victor Class soviet submarine.
I swear you could tell what was going on.
We pulled part of the screws out of our bow...:D

[Donny Carlson]

everthing soviet is so out dated & primitive .All there mechanical systems suck.
Can you think of any hot cars from there? Is this the same sub all those crewmen died in a few years back?

Russians love American cars, but even the Lada has been helped along. I think the Germans had a hand in this.

Anywho, a bit dated compared to Japanese or US designs, but not too shabby, this is a Russian made sports sedan:

http://members.cox.net/sanachchumak/images2/interests/inter_car/cars_had/car_had2.jpg

[hitchhiker]

What's long, and hard...and full of "sea-men"?

The Turkey Baster that Michael Jackson used to father his two kids with that fat nurse years ago...?

:D

[hitchhiker]

everthing soviet is so out dated & primitive .All there mechanical systems suck.
Can you think of any hot cars from there? Is this the same sub all those crewmen died in a few years back?

I thought the Big Black Zil Limos looked OK.

Nixon's response to riding in one was to give the Russian premier a Lincoln!

:D

[STLR FN]

...snip... Is this the same sub all those crewmen died in a few years back?Nope the Kursk was a Oscar-II class sub.

[DefyantExWife]

But who here can explain "Hot Racking"


or is it Hot Bunking ?

hmmm

[Haggis]

But who here can explain "Hot Racking"


or is it Hot Bunking ?

hmmm
You would like to know, wouldn't you. :eek:

[DefyantExWife]

what is it they say about Navy Submarine guys.... 50 guys go down straight, 25 couples come back up... no ... that's not it. Gah ... :D someone help me out here.

[juno]

And there are only two types of ships.

Submarines and targets.

[mtnh]

Hot bunking: the off-watch crew member uses the rack of a on-watch crew member, when there are too many crew aboard for all crew members have their own rack. I got to partake in this, but was allowed to stay ashore for 2 weeks, one in New London and one in Charleston, SC, while we took midshipmen from the Naval Academy out for some arm-twisting to try to get them to choose subs during their last year of school. That sure was a nice patrol cycle, 4 days in Ft Lauderdale, 2 weeks off for midshipmen ops, a few weeks playing war games with the surface fleet in Guantanamo Bay, a couple of weeks running in the deeps off Andros Island doing pre-shipyard sound surveys, etc.

Mike, Missle Fire Control, USS Simon Bolivar SSB(N) 641, 1978-1980

[juno]

Mike, Missle Fire Control, USS Simon Bolivar SSB(N) 641, 1978-1980

Mike, you were in about the same time as me in the same class of sewer pipe . (FS Key SSBN 657):D

I am originally from Salem, NH and will be there briefly this weekend. Two of my brothers and I will be riding the bikes out to NY for a wedding.

41 for freedom!!!!!!!

[Joe Walsh]

If it's a 'photochop' it is pretty darn good...the distant ridgeline behind the sub moves from pic #2 to pic #3, as if the sub was under power.

[marauder307]

If it's a 'photochop' it is pretty darn good...the distant ridgeline behind the sub moves from pic #2 to pic #3, as if the sub was under power.


Yeah, I agree...the light and shading are a perfect match with the foreground too...

I wonder if maybe this 'un's leaving some place down in the Black Sea/Bosporus area...lots of beach down there. Subs do move around, y'know...

Side note: the attack sub from "Red October" was an "Akula" class; that's the Soviet/Russian counter to our "Los Angeles" subs. Not particularly well constructed---nothing from the Soviet era is or was---but like all other Soviet endeavors, they simply built a ton of 'em.

And there's a third class of ships: COAST GUARD CUTTERS! :D

Got one Coast Guard-meets-a-sub sea story: Midsummer 1998, I was on patrol aboard CGC VALIANT, out of Miami Beach (RELIANCE-class 210', WMEC-621). We were half into a 7-week patrol, off the south coast of Puerto Rico, and scheduled to pull in to Rosie Roads the next morning for fuel and resupply (the mystery meat in the galley was becoming progressively more unappetizing). I had the 2000-2400 nav watch, and was maybe a half-hour away from relief, when the lookout calls down and says "I see a wake in the water...wait a minute, it just disappeared."

We all look at each other---some "sailor's english" was heard---and we all start looking for the go-fast that just got away. The CO comes up, and we all get yelled at for letting a go-fast get away, and then we start doing search patterns looking for the durn thing.

Next morning comes, and we're all absolutely beat. We have to pull in, because we're scheduled to do so and Rosie Roads is waiting for us, so we do.
As we tie up (this is about mid-morning now), I look over at the next pier, and there's a LA-class sitting over there.

Middle of the afternoon, I'm taking a break on the bridge wing while the snipes work the refueling evolution, and I'm looking across at the sub. I note the presence of a couple of their sailors standing on deck looking back at us. They're visibly engaged in conversation, although I'm too far away to hear it; every so often they'll point at us, and laugh.

I didn't get it at first---figured it was just some "Navy vs. Coast Guard" thing---then the BM2 comes up to join me on the break. I then learned that the sub had pulled in that morning an hour or so ahead of us---Boats had met a few of the crew at the exchange. Turns out----

----the wake we saw was their conning tower on the last stages of the dive.

Those so-and-so's sat on the bottom all night and laughed their azzes off at the Coast Guard cutter churning circles in the water over their heads.

I don't ever remember seeing them surface---then again, we were behind Vieques when morning came; I guess they coulda come up just outside Rosie's sea buoy and driven straight in while we were coming around Vieques to get lined up.

And that's....the rest of the story.:lol:

[GreekGod]

Shivver me timbers! The Sperm-Whale of submarines. I believe the photo. With distance compression from a telephoto lens, it could easily be a 1/2 mile or more from shore.

[seans]

[And there's a third class of ships: COAST GUARD CUTTERS! :D

SEMPER PARATUS!!!!!!

Did you know that the Coast Guard Cutter Campbell had the first U-Boat Kill by a U.S. Vessel in January 1942? It sunk the U-Boat after it attacked a convoy that it was escorting.