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O's Fan Rich
07-25-2006, 06:55 AM
Here are some shots of my lower gauge cluster now.

Busy busy busy.....

Haggis
07-25-2006, 07:07 AM
Where are your boost and fuel pressure gauges?

O's Fan Rich
07-25-2006, 07:13 AM
Where are your boost and fuel pressure gauges?
A pillar....

Rider90
07-25-2006, 07:22 AM
very frankenstein, but functional...

O's Fan Rich
07-25-2006, 08:27 AM
very frankenstein, but functional...
Yep... i'd agree. I might change over to black switches.
I also have the activation light for the Snow Meth kit on it now.

ckadiddle
07-25-2006, 08:46 AM
Starting to look like the space shuttle console. :) Bet it goes nearly as fast....

John F. Russo
07-25-2006, 08:58 AM
Here are some shots of my lower gauge cluster now.

Busy busy busy.....

Why didn't you consider dual gauges form spatechnique.com or Auto Meter?

O's Fan Rich
07-25-2006, 09:06 AM
Why didn't you consider dual gauges form spatechnique.com or Auto Meter?

I'm not a "digital" kinda guy, John.

John F. Russo
07-25-2006, 11:45 AM
I'm not a "digital" kinda guy, John.

Is it reliability? Trustworthiness?

RF Overlord
07-25-2006, 12:04 PM
John, I'm with Rich Long when it comes to gauges. Although a digital gauge may have greater accuracy and resolution, it's actually easier to glance quickly at a needle and determine if it's in the right (correct) position than it is to glance at a digital gauge, have the number register and be compared to a range of acceptable numbers to determine if it's OK. I've read studies performed by qualified researchers who investigate this kind of thing. It's one of the reasons NASCAR et.al. still use analogue gauges. The gauges are rotated so that all the needles point straight up when everything is "normal" because it takes less visual processing time to see that they're all pointing the same way (so everything must be OK) than it takes to individually read a half-dozen digital gauges and figure out if they're all in the acceptable range.

In fact, I'm thinking of taking all my gauges out and replacing them with lights...Green for "normal" and Red for "stop the engine"...

NOT!

;)

O's Fan Rich
07-25-2006, 12:20 PM
Is it reliability? Trustworthiness?

RF hit it pretty good. I like see a needle at the point it usually is... less thining about it.
Plus, I just like the dials rather then the numbers. I even prefer clocks and watches with dials.
OLD SCHOOL RULES!!!!:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:

snowbird
07-25-2006, 02:15 PM
Rich,

Good luck with those multiple gauge pod ! :)

I'm still recovering from my last winter skid. Those tiny round little things can really get your number sometimes !!

O's Fan Rich
07-25-2006, 02:24 PM
Rich,

Good luck with those multiple gauge pod ! :)

I'm still recovering from my last winter skid. Those tiny round little things can really get your number sometimes !!

Yeah, trust me.... I was eyeballing the dash for more space. Shakes26 got one in the ac outlet....

John F. Russo
07-25-2006, 05:14 PM
[QUOTE=RF Overlord]John, I'm with Rich Long when it comes to gauges.

Now that is a very thoughtful answer.

Again and again we have some of the best if not the best people. Once you throw out a question, answers and explanations come. It's like have a bevy of consultants but with real world experience.

I can agree with the information that you have given for those drivers who have gauges at their eye level. My auto meter boost gauge is as close to my eyes as possible behind my shift (not at eye level).

For example, I have been wondering why I get 3 psig at any time when driving WOT at over 40 mph and 7 psig at WOT at below that speed.

While I'm on the highway even with light traffic, I want to keep my eye on the road as much as possible. It isn't that easy to read this small analogue gauge that's at an angle too.

At night it is too difficult at WOT, in addition to the lighting being a problem too.

I take the opposite position as you do. If I have a digital gauge I can quickly glance at the boost number because it is a large number from what I can tell from the photos of the gauges. I'm only interested in the first number on the gauge only. So a quick glance should do it once you do it a few times, I think.

I know what I have now and I would like to try one of these gauges before I I make a final decision. And it may be possible that neither will eliminate my objections.

Haggis
07-26-2006, 03:14 AM
John, I'm with Rich Long when it comes to gauges. Although a digital gauge may have greater accuracy and resolution, it's actually easier to glance quickly at a needle and determine if it's in the right (correct) position than it is to glance at a digital gauge, have the number register and be compared to a range of acceptable numbers to determine if it's OK. I've read studies performed by qualified researchers who investigate this kind of thing. It's one of the reasons NASCAR et.al. still use analogue gauges. The gauges are rotated so that all the needles point straight up when everything is "normal" because it takes less visual processing time to see that they're all pointing the same way (so everything must be OK) than it takes to individually read a half-dozen digital gauges and figure out if they're all in the acceptable range.

In fact, I'm thinking of taking all my gauges out and replacing them with lights...Green for "normal" and Red for "stop the engine"...

NOT!

;)
The digital gauges from SPA Technique come with a red warning light that flashes when it is out of range. Those two red buttons mentioned earlier on Ladyhawke's post are use to program the gauges maxium and minium parameters.

John F. Russo
07-26-2006, 12:10 PM
[QUOTE=Haggis]The digital gauges from SPA Technique...


About half of the group that I met in Worcester, Mass. have responded to this thread. It pays to meet people!

Thank you all!

I'll have to change the color from red to black to keep my 'stealth' look.

KillJoy
07-26-2006, 12:26 PM
I'll have to paint those buttons black to keep my 'stealth' look.

Ummmmm... lots 'o' gauges does not a stealthy look make.

;)

KillJoy

John F. Russo
07-26-2006, 01:47 PM
Ummmmm... lots 'o' gauges does not a stealthy look make.

;)

KillJoy

It's a compormise to get the needed data to run your car well.

Besides they are mostly out of sight.

Ross
07-26-2006, 02:00 PM
If you get any more gauges, I think you're gonna need a bigger car...

Glenn
07-26-2006, 05:52 PM
Surprise more S/C owners do not use the s/c (steering column) cover pod gauge location especially for the boost gauge. This location places the boost gauge directly above the right lower section of the speedmeter and lower left of the tach. You can easily see all three gauges very quickly.

Glenn

KillJoy
07-26-2006, 06:10 PM
Surprise more S/C owners do not use the s/c (steering column) cover pod gauge location especially for the boost gauge. This location places the boost gauge directly above the right lower section of the speedmeter and lower left of the tach. You can easily see all three gauges very quickly.

Glenn

Is there one that fits the MM?

KillJoy