KillJoy's Oil Poll

[KillJoy]

Well, now that I have a Vortech SuperCharger, I need to determine what type of oil to use.

I have been told to use a full synthetic with the Blower. Help me decide on which to get.

I'v heard Amsoil is good, but is it not readily available in my area.

Mobile1 and Royal Purple are both found nearly everywhere.

If you would recommend another brand / type, please LET ME KNOW! ;)

KillJoy

[Loco1234]

I use royal purple in everything on all my cars except for the tranny. In the tranny you have to use Mercon 5 and Amsoil does make that the best....

The royal purple is purple because if you get a leak from any fuild that you hav3 royal purple in it will glow in a UV light. Makes it easier to find leaks. I took apart my motor a while back and at almost 40,000miles my cylinder sleeves still have cross hatching like brand new. I would suggest royal purple.

I have it in my rear end, it my engine oil, an I have their water wetter for radiator and more importantly in my air-water intercooler, etc...

I can't prove it but I think switching to royal purple and amsoil mercon 5 made a difference on the dyno as well....

[merc]

Not another oil:censor:tread. Just change the oil often.

[KillJoy]

Not another oil:censor:tread. Just change the oil often.

Thank you adding nothing to this thread. :shake:

KillJoy

[Zack]

I used the Mobil 1 for a long time both NA and S/C before realizing it was a huge waste of money. I switched to Valvoline 5w-30 with no problems.

[KillJoy]

I used the Mobil 1 for a long time both NA and S/C before realizing it was a huge waste of money. I switched to Valvoline 5w-30 with no problems.

Full Synthetic, Blend or Conventional?

KillJoy

[merc]

Thank you adding nothing to this thread. :shake:

KillJoy

You want to read something about oil ? Do a search on this site or read this link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil

The anwser is the same, Change the oil often :rasta:

[Haggis]

After the Hershey Meet in Oct. '03 I switched to all natural Hersheys Chocolate Syrup. Lubricates everything nicely and if you have a leak, just invite the neighborhood kids to come by and clean it up.

[mpearce]

I used the Mobil 1 for a long time both NA and S/C before realizing it was a huge waste of money.

Can you explain why? Or is this just "your" opinion?

-Mat

[RF Overlord]

Thank you adding nothing to this thread. Actually, merc is right...ALL of the oils listed in your poll will give excellent service and I highly doubt you'd be able to tell any difference between them.

IMHO.

On a side note, whichever synthetic you decide on, use a Motorcraft filter.

Also IMHO.

[TAF]

Only Royal Purple since the 1st oil change over 4 years ago....

Local ATL company...recommended by the best Techs I know...and that's what mine gets.

[Tallboy]

Only Royal Purple since the 1st oil change over 4 years ago....

Local ATL company...recommended by the best Techs I know...and that's what mine gets.

Plus one. Had the car less than 24 hours before the 5W20 Royal Purple went in. I've used only RP since then, and Blackstone says she's healthy as a horse.

[Loco1234]

I will recommend Roylal purple to anyone. and yes you should should a Motorcraft filter. then are designed to last as long as the synthetic does. otherwise you will have to change filter before you have to change oil.

I cannot back it up with dyno proof but I really believe I did get slightly better numers after my motor broke in and I switch to the royal purple.

I called royal purple before I purchased it and they recommended using 5w-20 for the ford mod motors. The supercharger is designed to use a wide variety of oils so its really a matter of what you should use for you motor rather than what you should use for your supercharger.
:burnout:

[SergntMac]

This isn't just another oil thread.

I read this poll to say that Steve is in a new place with his Vortech blower, and he has questions about engine oil that petain to the lubrication of his blower. This is new territory, for all Vortech owners.

Can you explain why? Or is this just "your" opinion?
-Mat I'd like to ask, at what point does an "opinion" morph to "fact" from personal experience?

If I were able to point to a 1.70 sixty foot time from one drag radial, vs. a 1.80 time (best performance from both), is my preferrence for the lower time still just an opinion? Do my personal first-hand experiences with both mean anything "factual"? Just wondering.

I have logged over 20K on a Vortech supercharger, which is fed fresh lubricant from the engine oil supply. I use only 5W20 Motorcraft multi-blend bulk oil from my dealership, or, Quaker State 5W20 from the shelf if I need to top off the fill between drains. My rule is "clean oil", which means changing it (with filter) every 2500-3K miles needed or not, with regular EOA of the used sample. In my case, frequent means the cost of the oil itself, figures in the total cost of operations.

I have not experienced any failures or complications, other than a blown rear blower mainshaft seal from an improper pulley change, and that was a man-made failure. My Vortech has been back for upgrade from the stock "S-Trim" to the "T-trim" and the Vortech lab reported no unusual wear ot tear on the components, and said I was on the right path, considering that the fresh oil supply is meant to maintain proper temps in the blower gear box, as well as lubricate internals reaching as high as 20K RPMs in a 1/4 mile pass.

Steve...IMHO, use the engine oil that meets your needs for the engine, it will be fine for the blower as well. Just keep it all as clean as possible, the clearances and specs internal to the blower are as stringent as the engine itself. Thicker or heavier weights will not cool as well the lighter oils do, and the difference between full synethic and the standard multi-blends recommended are not that great, until you start adding up the cost of the oil it's self on a limited use drain schedule such as mine.

Just my .02C, hope it helps.

[RF Overlord]

Just my .02C, hope it helps.
Mac probably has as much "time" using a Vortech hair-drier as anyone else on this board, and his car gets rather...how shall I put this..."spirited" use, so pay attention... :)

[Breadfan]

BTW along with what merc said, one of the things with synthetic oil is it still has to be changed often not necessarily becuase the oil goes bad but because the filter does.

Right now oil technology is far beyond current consumer-level automobile oil-filter technology.

Now...big diesel tech like big-rigs is another story, but then again they have up to 8 oil filters and run for thousands and thousands of miles on an oil change.

For me, especially with a blower, regardless of what I choose to use it gets replaced often.

[KillJoy]

Thank you all for your opinions, comments and PM ;)

From what I have gathered here.... I should just pick the oil of my choice, and change on a frequent interval (3K).

I also want to say thanks for keeping this thread...mostly... civil :D

KillJoy

[CRUZTAKER]

Only Royal Purple since the 1st oil change over 4 years ago....



Ditto.

I did not vote however, as my Vortec is not MY vortec yet.:rolleyes:
I will also add...leave the tranny fluid as is from the factory for best results.

[Bigdogjim]

Plus one. Had the car less than 24 hours before the 5W20 Royal Purple went in. I've used only RP since then, and Blackstone says she's healthy as a horse.
Are you paying an extra $10.00 for the "TBN" number? It is the way Blackstone shows how much active additive is left in the oil.

[RF Overlord]

Hey bigdog:

Do you know what the TBN of virgin M1 is? My last UOA showed a 3.7 after 5200 miles.

[Bigdogjim]

Hey bigdog:

Do you know what the TBN of virgin M1 is? My last UOA showed a 3.7 after 5200 miles.

So what did Blackstone suggest? Going 7,000 to 8,500 miles next time and re-sample?

[michael ward]

amsoil.com

[sdacbob]

The royal purple is purple because if you get a leak from any fuild that you hav3 royal purple in it will glow in a UV light. Makes it easier to find leaks. I took apart my motor a while back and at almost 40,000miles my cylinder sleeves still have cross hatching like brand new. I would suggest royal purple...

I've had the same experience with Mobil 1. I bought a 1987 Shelby Charger GLHS new(which I still have). I had it in Germany for 3 years while I was in the Army and it saw alot of Autobahn use. I used Mobil 1 (also a factory fill) in Germany and here in the US. At 80,000 miles I had to replace the head gasket. No sludge, virtually no wear to the cam shaft, the swirl marks were still clearly visible in the cylinder bores, internals looked like new. :beer:

[Loco1234]

I use amsoil Mercon 5 in my tranny and I am very happy with the results....
It works wonderfully with the PI Stall convertor too.....

[Vortech347]

Call Vortech.

They'll tell ya the same thing they told me and my dad. Use OEM requirements. You can run just about anything including 20-50w throu a vortech and their fine. Mac said it perfect. Worry about the oil for your engine, not the blower.

I run 10w-40 in the spring/fall and 20w-50 in the summer (Vortech'd Stang)

[jimlam56]

Good thread, thanks.
The previous owner of my silver MM used Mobile 1, so I continued.
But y'all bring up a good point about the filter.
So is there any ill effects to switching from a synthetic back to "regular" oil?

[Loco1234]

I know royal purple is completely compatible with mixing it with dinosaur oil....
...but I don't know about others...

[RF Overlord]

All of the popular synthetics, both true and faux, are compatible with dino oil, but why would you want to mix them?

[RF Overlord]

So is there any ill effects to switching from a synthetic back to "regular" oil?None. Contrary to popular belief, you can switch back and forth as you wish.

[stryker]

Have any of you thought in the Amsoil engine 5W30 racing oil ?


STRYKER.

[Loco1234]

No, but I've looked into royal Purples eqivalent racing oil.....

...and spoke with Royal Purple tech on the phone and was aked if this car was to be used as the daily driver.....

I was told for don't use their "Race Only Oil" or anyone elses for that matter in a truely daily driver....I was assured that using their regular oil was a huge step above the rest and you don't have to worry about warrenty voids etc...

If you were racing then ya use it.....It will give you a slight improvement over their regular synthetic.

Check out their FAQ page...
http://www.royalpurple.com/techa/faqsa.html#ro1

This is a Quote from it....

---Can I use racing oils in my street car?

Yes. Royal Purple's racing oils are formulated with detergents / dispersants necessary for daily use. The heavier grades (i.e. XPR 5W30, XPR 10W40 and XPR 20W50) may be used in street driven applications. However, Royal Purple's racing oils do not conform to API and / or ILSAC licensing requirements and should not be used when vehicle warranty is an issue.


---What is the difference between your SAE motor oils and your racing oils?

Royal Purple's motor oils are formulated to provide unparalleled performance and protection and comply with API / ILSAC specifications. Its racing oils vary in viscosity and formulation as compared to the SAE motor oils to provide the greatest performance gains possible without regard to API, SAE and / or ILSAC specifications.