Custom hood comittment to buy poll.

[Bowman9]

This is a commit to buy poll, so if you don't have the cash you should not be voting.

As you all know nobody makes an aftermarket hood for the Marauder/Marquis/Vic, but Doug from "Champion Fiberglass Products" has shown interest in such a project.
http://www.championfiberglassproducts .com/

In the previous custom hood poll we narrowed down the choices between two styles, the Cobra R Raised Cowl and the Dual Scoop Ram Air.

Doug stated in an earlier post "If I had a commitment for 40 hoods I would eat the cost of the mold."
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=25482&highlight=hood
The estimated cost is in the mid to high 300 dollar range.

So I am starting this poll to see how many will commit to buy between the two choices.
The results of the poll will then be forwarded to Doug.

This poll which will be opening for 30 days.

Cobra R Raised Cowl (exactly style to be determined)
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/7/8/7/mercurymaruderhood04.jpg

Dual Scoop Ram Air (exactly style to be determined)
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/7/8/7/mercurymaruderhood06.jpg

[Zack]

3-4" Cowl and Im in

[whoskal]

I like the dual scoop better.....but either way I am in!!!

[Grifter]

cowl w/o the 'gills' and i would be in.

[rozkopeeko]

yoooooooooo i'm in tooooo cobra r all the way ,,,,,,,,,,, smoooooooth

[FordNut]

cowl w/o the 'gills' and i would be in.
me too....

[supa_carrot]

Any idea as to when this could be avaliable to buy? I don't think I could buy one right now but, perhaps in 2-3 months I probably could.

[BruteForce]

3-4" Cowl and Im in

I'm with the Grill Meister.

[usafsniper]

Cobra R...matches the lines of the car better...

[Brutus]

Im in for either design

[ghost03]

Either one works for me. Im in

[Hotrauder]

Cobra R, with crystals; of course. :rofl: Dennis

[TooManyFords]

Not to side-track this thread, but I just don't understand how -anyone- can commit to buying a cowl hood here when it clearly states the "exact style to be determined!"

Y'all need to "determine" this and -then- ask for commitments.

John

[O's Fan Rich]

I will buy the Cobra R style with or without the vents. I will not purchase the other one, I just do not like it.

[CRZYBIKER]

Make sure you get 40 votes for ONE style. If the dual scoop is not made I would not buy the other.

[Todd]

I have the cash now for the Cobra R hood. I NEED more clearance AND heat extraction.

This is the only option that gives both.

[juno]

More clearance? :D Whachya doin?



I have the cash now for the Cobra R hood. I NEED more clearance AND heat extraction.

This is the only option that gives both.

[KillJoy]

I don't know how folks can commit to buy w/o a price, and an exact style.

I would be "interested" in the Cobra R w/o the gills. But if it is too costly, than I am out.

KillJoy

[MarauderMark]

I don't know how folks can commit to buy w/o a price, and an exact style.

I would be "interested" in the Cobra R w/ the gills. But if it is too costly, than I am out.

KillJoy
Yepp i agree 100%:D

[Fourth Horseman]

I'll commit to a dual scoop design on the condition that the hoods are well built and solid. I sure wish we could get a prototype of some sort that we could see and have members who are close by report back to us on.

Still, I'm willing to gamble mid to high $300 range assuming it's dual scoop. I'm not interested in the Cobra style, though, so if we go that way I'll be out.

[KillJoy]

As usual...... different strokes for different folks!

You are going to need to determine the hood style first, then get the price estimate per ordered number, then get a commitment......

KillJoy

[MarauderTJA]

I'm for the Cobra R. Just please make it functional to move heat from the engine bay with a rear (screened) opening. I would also go for the Mach 1 hood as well if it is functional. They both look really sharp.

[tmac1337]

I would take a Cobra R in that price range, and would settle for the other if it was the only choice if more people wanted it. Either one would have to be functional and bolt right on.

[snowbird]

I have the cash now for the Cobra R hood. I NEED more clearance AND heat extraction.

This is the only option that gives both.

I would go for the Cobra R. Also for clearance and heat extraction.

[DEFYANT]

I'm likein the Cobra R. Like everyone else though, the final product and price would determine weather or not I commit to purchase.

[BigMerc]

i dual scoop ram air (bottom picture) to go please

[Todd]

More clearance? :D Whachya doin?


Just a couple goodies I am trying to get fitted.... Clearance will be very close. It might work without. But if not I will need a 'fix'. To much effort to just scrap the project because of no hood clearance!!!!

[whoskal]

If we got 40 on each hood would they make both??

[Bowman9]

If we got 40 on each hood would they make both??

That is a very good question. Hmmm... I don't know what Doug would say to that.

Side note :
Please remember I have nothing to do with Doug or Champion Fiberglass, I am only doing this to get a badass aftermarket hood made for my car. :)

[natedog1284]

I'll commit to a dual scoop design on the condition that the hoods are well built and solid. I sure wish we could get a prototype of some sort that we could see and have members who are close by report back to us on.

Still, I'm willing to gamble mid to high $300 range assuming it's dual scoop. I'm not interested in the Cobra style, though, so if we go that way I'll be out.

^^^ Exactly what he said. I can commit now, but maybe not in the future, so let us know, if you can, approximately when these would be for sale. I too am also interested primarily in the dual scoop, so if Doug chooses to do the cobra r hood, I may have to think twice.

[djbruce26]

Does anyone know if these would bolt on to Crown Vics, MGMQs and Lincoln TCs? If they bolt up to a 98+ panther car no matter which type then we can get more people over from my section of the internet. I know of a few guys over at CVN who might be interested (myself included).
We already know the header panel is different but can anyone confirm that this hood should fit? I don't have time now to look up hood part #s but I'm guessing they are different. If you know this would fit then I'll be able to chime in a yes... but until then it's a no (and I would vote for the cobra style <evil grin>).

[FordNut]

Does anyone know if these would bolt on to Crown Vics, MGMQs and Lincoln TCs? If they bolt up to a 98+ panther car no matter which type then we can get more people over from my section of the internet. I know of a few guys over at CVN who might be interested (myself included).
We already know the header panel is different but can anyone confirm that this hood should fit? I don't have time now to look up hood part #s but I'm guessing they are different. If you know this would fit then I'll be able to chime in a yes... but until then it's a no (and I would vote for the cobra style <evil grin>).
Yes, the CV/GM hood is the same.

[djbruce26]

In that case I will commit to the Cobra style. I put the estimated money into my savings account right..... NOW. Keep us updated and please please please show pictures when the mold is done.

Out of curiosity/things to look into in preparation, anyone know what your dealer would charge to paint these? That's a critical factor for someone I'm sure. Also, what would shipping on one of these bad boys run?

My dealer would charge an arm, a leg, three fingers and your mother for a paintjob....

[thePunisher]

yeah the gills on the cowl hood ruin it....without the gills id be torn between the 2........

[summer]

I'll commit to the Cobra R hood! :burnout:

[DEFYANT]

I'll commit to the Cobra R hood! :burnout:

Nothin like just jumping right on in, eh!

Welcome to the machine summer

[DEFYANT]

Look again at the Cobra R hood. The photochop INCLUDES the header panel that holds the headlights and grill. The final product may not look like the pic above.

No flames intended.

[djbruce26]

No, I understand that it would start a few inches back from the grille (meaning just behind the header panel). I'm assuming they can get this figured out in a good looking fashion. They are, afterall, in the business of making aftermarket hoods for cars. <wink> Good to point it out though.

EDIT: Just to bring in some real information... My 2001 LX HPP hood is part number F8AZ16612AA (for years 1998-2005 for certain) and the marauder hood part number is F8AZ16612AA (for years 2003-2004). So... for those of us CV/GM/TC guys out there... they fit. Exactly as they should. But with an added BLING factor.
</wink>

[sweetair]

Yepp i agree 100%:DI fall in this boat myself.

[bigjon]

if i can see the finished product and i like it, i will buy one.

[martyo]

It is highly likely that I would buy one but I agree with both Zack's and John (Toomanyford's) posts above.

[GA-Marauder]

It is highly likely that I would buy one but I agree with both Zack's and John (Toomanyford's) posts above.

Ditto...Highly likely to buy. Weight reduction and better heat extraction. Cobra R, no gills.

[jim geary]

I just voted for the duel scoop, but I will buy either one. Suprise me.

[SergntMac]

While I continue to debate, it's time for a tip of my hat to Bowman9, for pursuing this opportunity on our behalf.

Thanks, dude!

[2003godshead]

Will these be lift off hoods or mounted like a factory hood?

[thePunisher]

hopefully they will mount and operate just like a factory piece....otherwise im not interested.....

[djbruce26]

From what I've read about their products they make full functionality hoods. Ones where you can bolt them on in the stock location and attach the stock hardware (lift supports, latch, etc) and have it work.

[2003godshead]

Interested, but would really need to see prototype first, lotta jack for a mistake.

[SergntMac]

I wouldn't have a problem with a "lift-off" hood, if it's light enough. Kinda reminds me of the late '60-Early '70 Dodge and Plymouth "six pack" hoods. Also lift off, with nifty looking NASCAR-like hood pins at all four corners.

However, a cowl-induction hood this size may be difficult to get a handle on, the dual scoop would be easier. Just don't throw away the factory hardware, so, you can restore the OEM at will.

Flat black would also be agreeable to me, I liked that look, but don't count this observation as a vote one way or another. Just IMHO-ing out loud...

[Raudermaster]

I should be able to swing it! I'm in for the Cowl.

[Ed Tarras]

Count me in for the dual scoop hood. I'd send a check today. The Cobra belongs on Mustangs not Marauders.

[AzMarauder]

Count me in for the dual scoop hood. I'd send a check today. The Cobra belongs on Mustangs not Marauders.

What he said :agree:

[studio460]

If the dual scoop is not made I would not buy the other.Ditto. I would buy the dual-scoop version in a heartbeat if it's ANYTHING close the the Photoshop image. I don't like the Cobra-R version at all, and wouldn't buy it. Let me repeat, if the DUAL-SCOOP version is made, I would buy one in a HEARTBEAT!

[djbruce26]

Bump... anyone here on the fence need some talking to in order to make a decision? What questions and concerns do you still have? This is a great opportunity and I'd hate for us all to miss it.

[KillJoy]

Bump... anyone here on the fence need some talking to in order to make a decision? What questions and concerns do you still have? This is a great opportunity and I'd hate for us all to miss it.

Final Style of each. Which one "wins". Pricing.

KillJoy

[djbruce26]

Those things can't be solved until we get a final version made, hehe... that's okay though. As it seems there are about 5-10 marauders jumping for joy at the thought of seeing a production version...

[MENINBLK]

This is a commit to buy poll, so if you don't have the cash you should not be voting.
The estimated cost is in the mid to high 300 dollar range.

So I am starting this poll to see how many will commit to buy between the two choices.
The results of the poll will then be forwarded to Doug.

This poll which will be opening for 30 days.

Bowman9,

Where are they located ?
Is this within a reasonable distance from New York ?
I voted for the Dual Scoop hood.
If they are made, I can drive down to actually SEE it,
and I can also pick it up instead of having it shipped.

And the poll says I already voted and I first voted tonight...

[BK_GrandMarquis]

Bowman9,

Where are they located ?
Is this within a reasonable distance from New York ?
I voted for the Dual Scoop hood.
If they are made, I can drive down to actually SEE it,
and I can also pick it up instead of having it shipped.

And the poll says I already voted and I first voted tonight...

From their website:

Champion Fiberglass Products is conveniently located 10 minutes from Cincinnati, Ohio, centrally located minutes from Interstate I-75, I-71, I-74 and I-275.
7706 Anthony Wayne Ave.
Cincinnati, Ohio 45216

[studio460]

I would buy the dual-scoop verion sight-unseen.

[MarauderTJA]

Let's just get this done...I'll buy either one.....now....

[KillJoy]

From their website:

Champion Fiberglass Products is conveniently located 10 minutes from Cincinnati, Ohio, centrally located minutes from Interstate I-75, I-71, I-74 and I-275.
7706 Anthony Wayne Ave.
Cincinnati, Ohio 45216

That's not too far from me :eek:

KillJoy

[BruteForce]

That's not too far from me :eek:

KillJoy

TEST FIT!! :banana2:

[Grifter]

yeah, really i'd be game for either if it came down to it. I wouldnt like the cobra one though if it comes with the gills as i said before.. but i would probably still get it if thats what is made..

[2003godshead]

Woo Hoo. That place is 10 minutes from my office. I have read all the posts and I am still unclear if this is a full function or lift off hood. My car could be a "guinea pig" if necessary.

[ctrlraven]

If I had the extra bucks and know how I would just buy a cobra r hood and get a panther hood from a junk yard, cut the cowl area off the cobra hood and fiberglass it to the panther hood and have something physically real to look at. Once the poll is closed and a hood has been choosen what kind of turn around time wise would we be looking at to actually have the hoods?

[MarauderTJA]

Woo Hoo. That place is 10 minutes from my office. I have read all the posts and I am still unclear if this is a full function or lift off hood. My car could be a "guinea pig" if necessary.

You need to get your butt over there ASAP and offer to be a test mule. Maybe it would work out for you on a special deal.. I'd get over there before someone else does.....

[Bowman9]

Hmmm... I had an evil little thought, if the Cobra R hood is the one to be made I wonder what it would look like with a shaker scoop sticking out of it in place of the gills.
Just an idea. ]:)

[Grifter]

hmm that COULD look pretty good.. it would probably end up looking alot like the stock stang Mach1 hood...not that it would be a bad thing...

[Dan19063]

I have noticed several posts that say people will buy either hood. I think the purpose of this thread is to figure out which one people want not I will buy either. Lets get on the ball peeps. Dual Scoop hood is the way to go.

[Hauser717]

I'm all about the dual scoop. If the Cobra R is made, I won't be interested.

[AzMarauder]

I have noticed several posts that say people will buy either hood. I think the purpose of this thread is to figure out which one people want not I will buy either. Lets get on the ball peeps. Dual Scoop hood is the way to go.

Well from a pure statistical stand point... I will buy either can be tallied as a vote for each hood.

I want a dual scoop hood myself, but I don't think people agreeing to buy either should be a problem.

Also, with the numbers we are receiving at this point... will the vendor be willing to make 50 of each kind? Certainly seems to be plenty of interest.

[djbruce26]

I think the deal was that they would make a mold for free (since it is very costly) if we could get 40 commitments on a single design... so if we could get 40 for each then I'm assuming they'd do both molds... but we'd have to ask them to be certain. Honestly though, I think they will get quite a few more customers once the finished product has been seen.

[Bowman9]

Is this the lull before the storm?
The cobra R is still in the lead.

[CRUZTAKER]

That's not too far from me :eek:

KillJoy

I must have drove by it several times.
I frequent that area.

I am interested as well...but hold the same concerns as those whom have already posted.



Woo Hoo. That place is 10 minutes from my office. .....

A new Buckeye?

Please join our user group so that you will be on the mailing list.;)

CLICKY (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/profile.php?do=editusergroups)

Now then...onward and upward.:D

[Bowman9]

Cruztaker,

Can you stop by the guys shop and do a little recon for us?
You know check the quality of his product... etc

Just a though.
Bowman9


I must have drove by it several times.
I frequent that area.

I am interested as well...but hold the same concerns as those whom have already posted.

A new Buckeye?

Please join our user group so that you will be on the mailing list.;)

CLICKY (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/profile.php?do=editusergroups)

Now then...onward and upward.:D

[CRUZTAKER]

Cruztaker,

Can you stop by the guys shop and do a little recon for us?
You know check the quality of his product... etc

Just a though.
Bowman9
Ironicaly enough I just pulled off a Verizon audit and told to be at AT&T in Columbus monday.

I was actually hoping the newbie would do it.:P
Hell I don't even know your name yet and I'm poking :poke:

Nothin' but love 2003godshead.;)

[bgbdwlf]

As far as commiting to purchase I am in. Will this be check, money order or will credit cards be accepted?

I already voted once for the Dual scoop but I am starting to like the Cobra hood more and more. I, unlike some of you like the gills on the hood and would rather have it made that way. I like the fact that it will give us more clearance under the hood. It also adds some elegance to the car without making to bold of a statement.

As far as the Dual scoop goes I personally think it looks like it would have been a hood option to order from the dealer. I can't seem to make my mind up. I will have to sit on this for a couple of days. I showed pictures to friends, family and neighbors to get their opinion and it has been a split down the middle so far.

It looks like we are getting the same response here from our members. I did notice someone had brought up the question on would they consider making both hoods if they had a commitment on 40 or 50 each? This is exactly what I was thinking. Why not making everybody happy. I know some of us had said either way they are in and this is where I am at this point. I am also a anal bastard and suffer from obsessive compulsive disorder and would probably end up buying both so I can switch out hoods from Stock, Cobra and Dual scoop.

My Marauder is a 04' Silver Birch with Charcoal and has been babied from the day I bought it and brought it home. It does not go out in rain, let alone come out if there are any clouds in the sky and is parked for the winter and started every other day. My neighbors have caught me with it jacked up wiping clean all areas of the underside of the car. Under hood is spotless as well. It just turned 9k last week. Had it since Mermorial day of 04' brand new. My everyday car is a 99' Crown Vic/Special Edition Black exterior with two-tone Tan leather inside and has 65k on it. This is where I start thinking (SCARY) maybe one style hood for the Marauder and the other for the CV.

My cars over the past 10 years include an 88' LSC (MY-TOY), 94' Sig. Continental (MOTHERS-TRADED), 95' SIg. TC (WIFES-TRADED), 95' E250(WORK-CURRENT), 98' EB Expedition (WIFES-TRADED), 99' E150 (WORK-CURRENT), 99' CV/Special Edition (MY-EVERYDAY), 01' Navigator (WIFES-TOY), 02' Sable PLatinum Edition (MOTHERS-CURRENT), 04' Marauder (MY-TOY#2) and an 05' Monterey (WIFES-EVERYDAY).

See what I mean? OCD I am! Sorry if I bored you guys I have been known to ramble on as well. ANYWAY I'M IN!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Raudermaster]

So how much longer until the poll is over and we have the final results?

[BK_GrandMarquis]

So how much longer until the poll is over and we have the final results?

From the first post in this thread. The thread started on 8/02/06.



This poll which will be opening for 30 days.

[2003godshead]

I would be happy to poke around for you, if need be. Being the newbie, I don't want to step on any toes. Just let me know what is needed. By the way, My name is Dave.

[Bowman9]

I was just looking for someone to check the place out and see if it is on the up and up.
Seeing I don't know anything about this company it would be great for someone to nose around for the rest of us.

[2003godshead]

I have done some checking around with a friend who is seriously into the Mustang scene. Their club is aware of this company. He relayed that their finished product is O.K. but require a lot of blocking and prep work before finish can be applied. Interestingly, this company has two addresses in different parts of town, so I will have to figure out which one to go to. They are a site sponsor on the mustang website here in Cincy. Will keep you informed.

[Bowman9]

Good work, keep us updated on what you find out.


I have done some checking around with a friend who is seriously into the Mustang scene. Their club is aware of this company. He relayed that their finished product is O.K. but require a lot of blocking and prep work before finish can be applied. Interestingly, this company has two addresses in different parts of town, so I will have to figure out which one to go to. They are a site sponsor on the mustang website here in Cincy. Will keep you informed.

[Champion FGP]

Hello

This is Doug with Champion!
You don't need to poke around. Please come to my shop at anytime. We also sponsor FFW and NMRA so please go to any show around you also. Please call first at my cell phone 513-383-4758 to make sure I am in town before going to the shop. We are no longer in Norwood. Our address is 7706 AnthonyWayne ave, in Cincinnati accross from the Hamilton County Fair Grounds. I would also like for someone local to bring me there car for a test fit if possible. Things do slow down for me from mid Oct to Jan This would be a great time to work on this hood.

[Bowman9]

Cool, who is going to be our guinea pig.

Doug, will you be able to create both hoods?
Or are you just going to make the one and see how it goes from there?




Hello

This is Doug with Champion!
You don't need to poke around. Please come to my shop at anytime. We also sponsor FFW and NMRA so please go to any show around you also. Please call first at my cell phone 513-383-4758 to make sure I am in town before going to the shop. We are no longer in Norwood. Our address is 7706 AnthonyWayne ave, in Cincinnati accross from the Hamilton County Fair Grounds. I would also like for someone local to bring me there car for a test fit if possible. Things do slow down for me from mid Oct to Jan This would be a great time to work on this hood.

[Champion FGP]

With a commetment of 40 hoods I will make 1 style. With a comment of 80 hoods I will make 2 styles. Please keep me informed on the poll!

Thanks, Doug

[2003godshead]

Cool, who is going to be our guinea pig?

I should be able to. Long as its dry out!!!

[KillJoy]

If it'll get me a Free Cobra Style Minus Gills hood .....tell me when to drop it off.

KillJoy

[1gtx]

I'm interested in the dual scoop. As others have said final design, price, and quality would impact the final decision.

Mark WIllson (1GTX)

[Bill Lalk]

What kind of $ are we talkin.

[Bill Lalk]

What kind of $ are we talkin?:confused:

[whoskal]

Looks like we have about enough for both hoods???

[GEEMAN]

Count Me In....i Love The Dual Scoop Ram Air Hood.....

[Bowman9]

From the first post in this thread


Doug stated in an earlier post "If I had a commitment for 40 hoods I would eat the cost of the mold."
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forum...highlight=hood
The estimated cost is in the mid to high 300 dollar range.

[Bowman9]

As you can see the poll is over.
Cobra R Raised Cowl - 53 votes
Dual Scoop Ram Air (Mach1 non-shaker) - 40 votes

I sent an email to Doug at Champion Fiberglass Products to see what we need to do next to get this project started, when I get a response I'll post the info.

www.championfiberglassproducts .com

[KillJoy]

From rereading this thread... a lot of folks seem interested, but the final price, appearance and the amount of paint prep will be a MAJOR determining point for a few....myself inclulded.

KillJoy

[Champion FGP]

Hello

The cost of the hood will be $375.00 Estimated time for production of molds will be 45 days. 1st part in 50 days, Orders will be on a first come basis. A 20% deposit will need to be made at the time of order. the remaining 80% will be charged when the hood is shipped. We also charge $20.00 to box the hood for shipping. Shipping is paid when you receive your hood. If you have Any concerns about Champion we are a member of the BBB in Cincinnati. You can also check out our feedback on E-bay http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=championfg&ssPageName=STRK:ME:UFS

Look forward to getting this going for you. If you have any ? please call toll free at 1-888-416-6273

[Grifter]

is the cobra hood going to have the gills?

[SID210SA]

With a commetment of 40 hoods I will make 1 style. With a comment of 80 hoods I will make 2 styles. Please keep me informed on the poll!

Thanks, Doug

Is this part still in the works.....there is at least 40 for each. And I searched the thread and did not see any thing about paint....is it included?

[Champion FGP]

Yes it in the works, Paint is not included. Cobra r will have the grills (not cut out)

[2003godshead]

Can we pick the hoods up? It is kind of pointless for it to be shipped to the same city.

[FordNut]

Cobra r will have the grills (not cut out)
Bummer... How much to have the gills removed and replaced with a plain old flat piece of fiberglass?

[Champion FGP]

Can we pick the hoods up? It is kind of pointless for it to be shipped to the same city.

Yes you can pick it up

[Champion FGP]

Bummer... How much to have the gills removed and replaced with a plain old flat piece of fiberglass?

There are going to be to many hoods to make mods on each one, This is something your body shop can do.

[SID210SA]

Doug,

Is your time frame to work on this project still Oct. - Jan. when you are slow...if so that could work good for me as I get my bonus in Dec.

[KillJoy]

Yes it in the works, Paint is not included. Cobra r will have the grills (not cut out)

I am out. I am not interested in either of these designs.

KillJoy

[Champion FGP]

Doug,

Is your time frame to work on this project still Oct. - Jan. when you are slow...if so that could work good for me as I get my bonus in Dec.

Yes it is.

[MarauderTJA]

Is the hood going to have functional heat extraction?

[O's Fan Rich]

Yes it in the works, Paint is not included. Cobra r will have the grills (not cut out)

Let me know when you want a deposit.......:D
I'll cut 'em out if that'd be possible.

[Champion FGP]

Is the hood going to have functional heat extraction?

The hood will be shipped to you with the scoop not cut out. If you want them cut out out can do so yourself. from past experience most people do not want them cut out because rain can get in.

[Champion FGP]

Let me know when you want a deposit.......:D
I'll cut 'em out if that'd be possible.

Please call toll free at 1-888-416-6273 to get this started.

[tmac1337]

Uh.....I thought we all were looking for functional heat extraction hoods. It looks like people would have to now look for screens or whatever:eek:

No offense intended, but heat extraction was the whole point to do this!

[Champion FGP]

My point is, that some of you may want this to be functional. some of you may not want rain poring in on top of your motor. It would be easier for you to cut out the scoops if that is what you want verses putting them back if you don't. Contact me and let me know what you decide.

Thanks for your interest

[Bowman9]

Hey Doug,

Thanks for posting your info, I am sure you will be getting a lot of calls over the next two weeks.
I just need to decide which one I want now.

PS - Don't let the turkeys get you down. :)

[Grifter]

Hey Doug,

Thanks for posting your info, I am sure you will be getting a lot of calls over the next two weeks.
I just need to decide which one I want now.

PS - Don't let the turkeys get you down. :)

did i miss something? what do you mean "which one"? arent we only getting the cobra r with the gills?

[Champion FGP]

did i miss something? what do you mean "which one"? arent we only getting the cobra r with the gills?

It looks like I have interest for both. (over 40 each)

[Grifter]

nice!
are we going to be able to see an actual prototype before sending $? I dont want to send money and be commited to something that doesnt end up looking like what its supposed to..
know what i mean?

[Champion FGP]

nice!
are we going to be able to see an actual prototype before sending $? I don't want to send money and be committed to something that doesn't end up looking like what its supposed to..
know what i mean?


This is how I see it! There is no way I will front the money on making these molds. I am asking for 20% down or $75.00 for each order. After I receive the 40 orders I will get on them right away. Other companies would want a few thousand dollars down just for the molds. If you don't want to put a down payment on this. Just wait until after the first 40 orders are taken. If I do not get the 40 orders, I will refund your deposit.

Sorry but I thought this was understood.

[Raudermaster]

Placed my order around 3:00! I'm very excited. Although, I changed my mind, I voted for the Cobra R, but I ended up ordering the dual scoops. Thank you and I can't wait to get mine.

[Master]

Hey guys, I am rejoining this thread after a month away and am impressed to see how far you've gotten. I'm actually interested in this GB, but had a couple of questions that I hope you could help me with. Feel free to ridicule if they are unwarranted.
1) How rigid will the new hood be? More or less than factory? I don't think I could handle less rigidity as the factory tin lifts more than I've ever seen on a hood.
2) How about weight? Is this meant to be a lightweight unit (handlaid matt) or a heavy sprayed-in-mould unit?
3) Having had o lift the hood of just about every "performance" Honda in Metro, I can say I've seen a lot of VERY expensive Carbon Fibre hoods that don't match the factory lines worth a darn. I wouldn't pay a plug nickel for one of those. Are we pretty confident that the factory lines will be maintained for our run?
4) Has anyone done a photoshop of these on a black car to see which one might look best in that application? I know its subjective, but the Silver Birch has a very different look from a Basic Black MM. I'm no photoshop expert, so I can't be counted on to perform this task.
Sorry for all the questions, but I don't want to look back and think "A fool and his money..." I've been there before and its pretty depressing.
THanks for any and all input - even the bad stuff :)

[Master]

PS
If these components turn out well, should we talk about having them helping us with "Trilogy" style body kits?

[djbruce26]

Sorry I couldn't order today... more mandatory over-time. I'll call you guys tomorrow and we'll get me set up for my Cobra R hood.

Side questions that I'd like to have posted here for others references....
What kind of payment options do you guys accept (just so we know what to have handy when we call in)?

For prep-work before painting... you mention on your site that your hoods aren't the highest quality finishes but are well within the pack and so they do require a little prep work before paint to get best results... So.... how long should we have these installed and sun-curing before they get sanded and painted? Will a couple of weeks be sufficient sitting in hot sun?

When we order a Cobra R or dual scoop style, can you have the gills cut out when you make it so we don't have to worry about that when we get it? Or are you only making them with gills covered to save yourself a headache on creating them?

For home delivery does someone need to be there to sign for it or not?

I think these questions will help us know how everything should work when we make our orders and receive a product. Thanks for being the only company to care about us. You've got my vote of confidence.

[Champion FGP]

Hey guys, I am rejoining this thread after a month away and am impressed to see how far you've gotten. I'm actually interested in this GB, but had a couple of questions that I hope you could help me with. Feel free to ridicule if they are unwarranted.
1) How rigid will the new hood be? More or less than factory? I don't think I could handle less rigidity as the factory tin lifts more than I've ever seen on a hood.
2) How about weight? Is this meant to be a lightweight unit (handlaid matt) or a heavy sprayed-in-mould unit?
3) Having had o lift the hood of just about every "performance" Honda in Metro, I can say I've seen a lot of VERY expensive Carbon Fibre hoods that don't match the factory lines worth a darn. I wouldn't pay a plug nickel for one of those. Are we pretty confident that the factory lines will be maintained for our run?
4) Has anyone done a photoshop of these on a black car to see which one might look best in that application? I know its subjective, but the Silver Birch has a very different look from a Basic Black MM. I'm no photoshop expert, so I can't be counted on to perform this task.
Sorry for all the questions, but I don't want to look back and think "A fool and his money..." I've been there before and its pretty depressing.
THanks for any and all input - even the bad stuff :)

1. The hood should be as ridged as the factory.

2. There will be 3 layers of 1 1/2 oz mat in the center area, 2 layers on the sides with a frame around the outside for the hinges and latch.

3. The cobra r 2k will not follow the body lines as well as the mach style. Go back in the forums and look at the pic that were posted.

4. Sorry I cant help you with that question.

[Master]

THanks for taking the time. Most appreciated.
- D

[MarauderTJA]

Placed my order around 3:00! I'm very excited. Although, I changed my mind, I voted for the Cobra R, but I ended up ordering the dual scoops. Thank you and I can't wait to get mine.

I thought that the only hood that was going to be available was the Cobra R?

[Hotrauder]

I thought that the only hood that was going to be available was the Cobra R?

Tom my understanding is that they will do both, if they get 40 orders for both. And will do neither without 40 deposits on that model. :popcorn: Dennis

[RoNiN77]

dual scoop please. will have to see at minimum a photoshop pic. the one here looks great. I'll also need a solid price.

ronin77@hotmail.com

[Champion FGP]

Hello

The cost of the hood will be $375.00 Estimated time for production of molds will be 45 days. 1st part in 50 days, Orders will be on a first come basis. A 20% deposit will need to be made at the time of order. the remaining 80% will be charged when the hood is shipped. We also charge $20.00 to box the hood for shipping. Shipping is paid when you receive your hood. If you have Any concerns about Champion we are a member of the BBB in Cincinnati. You can also check out our feedback on E-bay http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=championfg&ssPageName=STRK:ME:UFS

Look forward to getting this going for you. If you have any ? please call toll free at 1-888-416-6273

So total is $395.00 $20.00 boxing + $75.00 deposit + $300.00 when hood is shipped.

Call 1-888-416-6273 for shipping quote.

[djbruce26]

Hmm. Where are the rest of my Cobra R buddies? I see many people committed... I was told (just now on the phone) that they hadn't yet received all 40 orders. Well shucks folks (minor sarcasm here) it really makes me think you don't like me anymore.

Just to let everyone know, I just now pre-ordered my Cobra R. Very friendly and helpful on the phone (finally, some customer service reps that I feel I can trust/talk to). For anyone around my area (as in Missouri) it was only an extra $30 to get it shipped to my house versus a business. I will pay $120 for shipping to my house for Columbia, MO. Let's get going on this guys... we wanna have them done, painted and installed by Christmas don't we?

[FordNut]

Hmm. Where are the rest of my Cobra R buddies? I see many people committed... I was told (just now on the phone) that they hadn't yet received all 40 orders. Well shucks folks (minor sarcasm here) it really makes me think you don't like me anymore.

Just to let everyone know, I just now pre-ordered my Cobra R. Very friendly and helpful on the phone (finally, some customer service reps that I feel I can trust/talk to). For anyone around my area (as in Missouri) it was only an extra $30 to get it shipped to my house versus a business. I will pay $120 for shipping to my house for Columbia, MO. Let's get going on this guys... we wanna have them done, painted and installed by Christmas don't we?
My earlier post, along with several other members, stated that we would jump all over the Cobra R hood if it was smooth instead of having the extractor gills, basically a cowl hood that could be opened in the back for ventilation. Champion says NO to the smooth top. If I'm gonna have to modify a hood anyway, I might as well just modify a steel one to add the scoop I like.

[BruteForce]

My earlier post, along with several other members, stated that we would jump all over the Cobra R hood if it was smooth instead of having the extractor gills, basically a cowl hood that could be opened in the back for ventilation. Champion says NO to the smooth top. If I'm gonna have to modify a hood anyway, I might as well just modify a steel one to add the scoop I like.

Yeah this was where the mass confusion set in. From what did Champion determine the hood designs? The photochops? I thought we were going to get an adaptation of their existing designs.

No gills for me either. Them's fugly.

[LVMarauder]

Is it too late to get in on this GB some how I have missed this thread and am starting my last round of bling mods.

[djbruce26]

Not too late to get in... you just have to call them and order it. When 40 orders for any model are placed they will begin production on that model of hood.

Okay... I dunno where I missed it but I missed the part about wanting a smooth cowl hood... alright then, I'll wait patiently and see what happens. Thanks for the heads up and being patient with telling me the reasoning.

:lol:

[Raudermaster]

Champion, when I placed the order for my dual scoop hood, the lady who I talked too (didn't catch her name) said she would call me back with rough estimated dates of when I'll get it. Do you know by any chance when that will be?

[tmac1337]

My earlier post, along with several other members, stated that we would jump all over the Cobra R hood if it was smooth instead of having the extractor gills, basically a cowl hood that could be opened in the back for ventilation. Champion says NO to the smooth top. If I'm gonna have to modify a hood anyway, I might as well just modify a steel one to add the scoop I like.


Sorry guys, but I also assumed that the Cobra R hood would be raised - smooth with an opening in the back near the windshield. I don't think slotted gills will look good...plus if made functional will equate to a lot of water inside.

[Raudermaster]

I'm not one to stir the pot, but how could you assume that the Cobra R hood would be a normal cowl? I mean, the picture you can see the gills. Not only that, but just look at an '00 Cobra R online. Here is a provided picture...I mean, the guys that had their eyes set on these hoods, what is going to happen now since guys are backing down?
http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/99-04/00/2000CobraRPaceCar.jpg

[Bowman9]

So you are trying to tell me that everyone who voted for the Cobra R hood (all 53 votes) did not want gills?
Because if I remember correctly a number of people stated they liked the gills.
Doug did say that the hood would be made with gills on it and that they would be closed. This because some people were just looking for the looks and not functionality. If you want it smooth or functional you would need to have the hood modified before you have it painted. Somethings you have to do yourself, you can't have everything handed to you, that's what makes hot rodding great.

I think it is great that Doug stepped up and offered to make these hoods for us seeing that there is no real market for aftermarket body parts for a Grand Pop car.

So if you don't like it don't buy it, or go and try to find someone else interested in making it for you.

[FordNut]

And I repeat from the first post in this thread:


Cobra R Raised Cowl (exactly style to be determined)

Many of us stated in our response that we would buy if the style is smooth instead of having gills. Now that we are being told that the exact style has been determined and it will have the gills, we're not interested.

[Champion FGP]

Champion, when I placed the order for my dual scoop hood, the lady who I talked too (didn't catch her name) said she would call me back with rough estimated dates of when I'll get it. Do you know by any chance when that will be?

so far I only have 4 orders, 2 each, I need 40 to get started.

[Champion FGP]

Yeah this was where the mass confusion set in. From what did Champion determine the hood designs? The photochops? I thought we were going to get an adaptation of their existing designs.

No gills for me either. Them's fugly.

Yes from the photochops! I am real confused about this. :shake: That is how I read it all your posts. This needs to be determened in the next few weeks are we will get past my slow time.

[Raudermaster]

So you're telling me I gave a $75 down deposit, and you can't even start them because everyone who voted isn't buying them like they said they would? That sucks.....

[Bowman9]

Here is the link to the first poll that narrowed down the choices to two.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=27717&highlight=poll

The photoshop images were created by me, because a number of members said they had trouble visualizing what the hoods would look like.
That is the reason I put the disclaimer "exact style to be determined" because the finished product may appear different than that of the photoshops.

And this poll clearly states "This is a commit to buy poll, so if you don't have the cash you should not be voting."

I sincerely apologize to Doug from Champion Fiberglass for wasting his time.

[Champion FGP]

So you're telling me I gave a $75 down deposit, and you can't even start them because everyone who voted isn't buying them like they said they would? That sucks.....


Sorry but the molds will cost me a lot more than a few hoods will. That is why I wanted a commentment of 40 hoods to eat up the cost of the molds!
I will wait a couple of weeks, if I dont get a responce close to the 40 hoods I will start giving you all the refunds due.

E-mail me at championfg@aol.com if anything changes.

Thanks, Doug.

[KillJoy]

I don't know how folks can commit to buy w/o a price, and an exact style.

I would be "interested" in the Cobra R w/o the gills. But if it is too costly, than I am out.

KillJoy


I don't konw why the excuses or the confusion :rolleyes:

KillJoy

[Bowman9]

Yes, there was confusion about the Cobra R hood, but you can't tell me all 53 votes were for hoods without gills, and so far Doug has only received two orders for the Cobra R hood.
And what about the 40 people who commited to purchase the "dual scoop" hood? Doug has only received two phone calls to place orders for these.

Remember this was a commit to BUY poll, the first poll was to gauge interest.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=27717&highlight=poll

Okay fine people, how do you want to handle this?
Do you want to start yet another poll?

No wonder vendors don't want to deal with us :(

[TooManyFords]

Another poll will not accomplish anything. One of you that has already committed hard $$ needs to contact everyone on the committed to buy poll by telephone.

Take the bull by the horns or this group buy will become a group fizzle...

John

[added] Ask an admin to UNLOCK the poll so you can get the handles of those that committed. I see no other way...

[MarauderTJA]

Sorry but the molds will cost me a lot more than a few hoods will. That is why I wanted a commentment of 40 hoods to eat up the cost of the molds!
I will wait a couple of weeks, if I dont get a responce close to the 40 hoods I will start giving you all the refunds due.

E-mail me at championfg@aol.com if anything changes.

Thanks, Doug.

Doug, I apologize for the confusion here, to which I admit I am a part of. However, I think I am speaking for many of us here (# unknown) where the interest in the Cobra R hood was w/o gills and with functional rear heat extraction. How much would the cost of the mold be to make this hood? I am confident that many of us would not have a problem collectively absorbing the cost of the mold to get the hood we want, even at increasing the overall cost of the hood. I for one would pay the extra money to get the hood (above) I want for my car. I would be happy to assist you in this coordination here on the site.

TOM

[Bowman9]

TooManyFords has a good idea, we could unlock the poll to see if the people who voted were really interested in making the purchase as they claimed.
And at the same time ask all of those who voted for the Cobra R hood if they want it with or without gills.
That way Doug would have a better idea of what is going on.

Is there an administrator in this poll who would like to help us out?


...Ask an admin to UNLOCK the poll so you can get the handles of those that committed. I see no other way...

[MarauderTJA]

And at the same time ask all of those who voted for the Cobra R hood if they want it with or without gills.
That way Doug would have a better idea of what is going on.

Is there an administrator in this poll who would like to help us out?

That works too.

[BigMerc]

That poll never let me vote yet said I did. I would go with the photoshopped dual hood as long as it looks like the photoshop.

Anything else I'd just go do on my own.

[Raudermaster]

Well, I voted for the Cobra R, but I liked the dual scoop better, therefore I called, gave a down deposit, and couldn't wait to recieve the hood. Doug, how much would it cost for the people who called and placed the orders to get the hood? A litte more than the $375? Or a LOT more than $375? Because I sure as hell know I want that damn hood! Which is why I ordered mine.

[djbruce26]

If you do some research on just material costs to buy a metal hood (even from a junkyard), mold it, modify mold and re-form new mold, smooth out problems, create final mold.... then that's just material costs... add in the many many many many many hours of labor and you realize we were getting a great deal. That magic number 40 was enough for him to know he'd be making, at least a small, profit during his off-time of the year for normal business operations. Unless you guys are willing to pay hundreds more per hood I really don't see it happening. Custom work is expensive... mass operations are cheaper per unit.

To answer any questioning... I did want gills (preferably functional but I can get that part done myself). I committed to buy it and then I placed my order within a couple of days of finding out it was going to be made. If he doesn't get 40 orders then I'm fine with it... I honestly only voted originally to help out and make sure the rest of you hardcore modders would get this opportunity realized but... if it doesn't happen it's not that big of a loss for me. I do feel bad though if we ended up wasting Doug's time. He's an A+ guy in my book just for his committment to us alone and if anyone ever asks me I'll be glad to recommend them to Champion... but that still doesn't make his wasted time come back.

[Champion FGP]

If you do some research on just material costs to buy a metal hood (even from a junkyard), mold it, modify mold and re-form new mold, smooth out problems, create final mold.... then that's just material costs... add in the many many many many many hours of labor and you realize we were getting a great deal. That magic number 40 was enough for him to know he'd be making, at least a small, profit during his off-time of the year for normal business operations. Unless you guys are willing to pay hundreds more per hood I really don't see it happening. Custom work is expensive... mass operations are cheaper per unit.

To answer any questioning... I did want gills (preferably functional but I can get that part done myself). I committed to buy it and then I placed my order within a couple of days of finding out it was going to be made. If he doesn't get 40 orders then I'm fine with it... I honestly only voted originally to help out and make sure the rest of you hardcore modders would get this opportunity realized but... if it doesn't happen it's not that big of a loss for me. I do feel bad though if we ended up wasting Doug's time. He's an A+ guy in my book just for his committment to us alone and if anyone ever asks me I'll be glad to recommend them to Champion... but that still doesn't make his wasted time come back.


The cost of the mold is about $3,000.00. The normal cost of my hoods are around $300.00 That is the reason I picked 40 hoods $375.00 - $75.00 deposit is $300.00 $75.00 X 40 = $3000,00 That way the cost of the mold would be spread out over 40 orders. This is not like a mustang hood where I will sell hundreds out of 1 mold

[Power Surge]

Doug, can you make something custom? Well, I am sure you could, but are you willing to? I need something to cover what you see in the pic below. I doesn't have to be an entire hood, I would be happy with just a nice smooth cowl that was the size and taper of the rasied portion of the hood. Nobody makes anything anywhere near that width, and I really need to get this covered up as it's my daily driver. Please let me know if you are willing to make me something.

http://members.aol.com/powersurgeperf/MadMax2006/MadMax1.jpg

http://members.aol.com/powersurgeperf/MadMax2006/MadMax2.jpg

[Raudermaster]

Well this really sucks. Everyone else who voted isn't even chiming in and telling Doug what they want and see if it can be done. I'm pretty bummed.

[Grifter]

ive chimed in a few times and said i want the cobra r minus the gills. thats what i voted for to begin with. If that cannot be done, i will most likely get the other hood. I will not buy the Cobra with the gills.

[KillJoy]

I think a Group Buy of 40 People....on something, anything, that is of an asthetic nature is gonna be a hard sell on a group with the low numbers of ours.

Hell... no 2 people's MODIFIED cars look the same!!

Good luck w/ the GB though....

KillJoy

[Bowman9]

Can an administator unlock the poll so we can get this cleared uped?

[RoNiN77]

Bowman,

I am extremely sorry but I must w/draw my former commitment. I probably won't be in the market for a few months. My car will be needing some other work first. Hope this didn't screw anything up.

[grampaws]

I still want the two scoops-and just waiting to see how this is
going to pan out!!

[94_302]

If you need people why not post on the crown vic boards? It would fit their cars too right?

[juno]

I still want a Cobra R that can be made for heat extraction. Gills are fine, if not at least some spot that can be cleanly opened. I am not interested in a hood that can not be made functional.

[Power Surge]

If you need people why not post on the crown vic boards? It would fit their cars too right?

I agree with this. There will be MUCH more buyers for a custom hood like this from the Crown Vic guys. There's zillions more CVs out there, and plenty of people who want a custom hood for them. If the same hood that fits the Marauder fits the 98-present CVs and GMs, you'll sell more than enough to cover the costs.

As for the "style" of the hood, I have a different opinion. I think a poll asking what "style" is a bad idea. There are so many different styles that people will want, that you'll never get enough people to unite on a single design. I think the best thing to do, is choose a classic design, make that one design, and then people will either buy it or not. If it's the only choice, I'd bet people will buy it that said here they wouldn't.

In the case of style, I would just go with a nice 3 or 4 inch smooth cowl, with a smooth transition (as opposed to the sharp transition on some cowl hoods). Put the standard cowl vents in the rear. This way you have a rasied hood for both looks and function to clear blowers and whatnot, and the functional cowl vents for heat extraction. This is the most popular style of hood for all cars, so I see no reason why it wouldn't sell for these cars. And I think it would be sexy as hell.

Just my 2 cents.

[juno]

:agree: with the new guy!

[FordNut]

YES, this is the one...

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/7/8/7/hood_08.jpg

[juno]

Isn't that more of a cowl induction hood? The back of the raised area is in the high pressure area directly in front of the windshield.

[Power Surge]

YES, this is the one...

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/7/8/7/hood_08.jpg

Yes, something just like that, but I think the cowl should go all the way to the first raised portion of the hood. It will have a more factory appearance and flow with the lines of the car better if it's wider. (and no, I'm not just saying that because I NEED a raise that wide :D)

[Butch]

ive chimed in a few times and said i want the cobra r minus the gills. thats what i voted for to begin with. If that cannot be done, i will most likely get the other hood. I will not buy the Cobra with the gills.

I'm the same as Grifter...I want the Cobra R without gills, but my plan is to *probably* get the other one if the Cobra R without gills isn't going to be made. I just can't commit to the scooped hood yet without having a good feeling about it yet.

I like them both and can deal with either one, but I don't want to put $75 deposit on a Cobra R hood that *may* have gills. My $75 deposit would be going to help start manufacturing of something I don't want. That is why my money hasn't been sent yet....

Just like they need a commitment from us to buy, I need a commitment from them on what my $75 deposit is going towards to help get the ball rolling. I don't think it would be fair for me to give them a deposit, and then they start building it, but it isn't what I want, so I get my money back, which means they are then $75 in the hole.

[Raudermaster]

Well, Sal doesn't have a bad idea. I'm from the CrownVic.net boards, and eveyone with a 98+ always said they wanted an aftermarket hood of some sort. Although, it would be entirely up to Doug what he would do for the molds. If he chooses to go there, at least post the dual scoop (because I think a lot of guys would like that) and possibly the re-designed flat cowl, he would probably get maybe close to 80 or so. I would be more than happy to help him out over there since I still post up on those boards.

[tmac1337]

In the case of style, I would just go with a nice 3 or 4 inch smooth cowl, with a smooth transition (as opposed to the sharp transition on some cowl hoods). Put the standard cowl vents in the rear. This way you have a rasied hood for both looks and function to clear blowers and whatnot, and the functional cowl vents for heat extraction. This is the most popular style of hood for all cars, so I see no reason why it wouldn't sell for these cars. And I think it would be sexy as hell.

Just my 2 cents.

Exactly what I would send my $$ for.

[MarauderTJA]

Yes, something just like that, but I think the cowl should go all the way to the first raised portion of the hood. It will have a more factory appearance and flow with the lines of the car better if it's wider. (and no, I'm not just saying that because I NEED a raise that wide :D)

I would buy this hood yesterday.

[Champion FGP]

Doug, can you make something custom? Well, I am sure you could, but are you willing to? I need something to cover what you see in the pic below. I doesn't have to be an entire hood, I would be happy with just a nice smooth cowl that was the size and taper of the rasied portion of the hood. Nobody makes anything anywhere near that width, and I really need to get this covered up as it's my daily driver. Please let me know if you are willing to make me something.



http://members.aol.com/powersurgeperf/MadMax2006/MadMax1.jpg

http://members.aol.com/powersurgeperf/MadMax2006/MadMax2.jpg



I may be able to do something if we get a fiberglass hood made! I have never seen a fiberglass scoop that has held up for very long on a steel hood. Keep a eye on this and see where it goes.

[Champion FGP]

I'm the same as Grifter...I want the Cobra R without gills, but my plan is to *probably* get the other one if the Cobra R without gills isn't going to be made. I just can't commit to the scooped hood yet without having a good feeling about it yet.

I like them both and can deal with either one, but I don't want to put $75 deposit on a Cobra R hood that *may* have gills. My $75 deposit would be going to help start manufacturing of something I don't want. That is why my money hasn't been sent yet....

Just like they need a commitment from us to buy, I need a commitment from them on what my $75 deposit is going towards to help get the ball rolling. I don't think it would be fair for me to give them a deposit, and then they start building it, but it isn't what I want, so I get my money back, which means they are then $75 in the hole.


What ever style you as a group decide on will be the one that I would make. Someone is going to be disappointed no matter what style is picked.

I am not sure it matters anyway I have now taken 5 total orders and nobody has disagreed with the ram air style.

[Bowman9]

Champion FGP (aka Doug) has a good point...
40 people commited to purchase the dual scoop ram air style hood, but he has only received 5 orders so far, that is 35 short of the 40 people who commited to purchase.
So where are the dual scoop ram air style hood people at??????

[Raudermaster]

My order's there, I'm patiently awaiting...

[djbruce26]

As for CV guys? I don't know all the websites but....
Crownvic.net - I am from there... I lurk here cuz I love y'alls cars and stories. I did make a committment and stuck with it. I also tried multiple posts/threads trying to bring more attention to this thread here but nobody ended up coming over and nobody responded... (minimal response overall at least).
I think there are also
www.crownvic.us and some grand marq site... like grandmarquis.net or something... dunno really. If those sites have the same type of members as CVN does then you'll realize quickly that you MM guys have tons more money (on average) than us CV drivers. So when this non-necessary mod comes up they would decide to keep the money for something else better used whereas you guys decide to buy a nice shiny new hood. I wouldn't honestly expect much out of them.
Last thing to keep in mind is Doug here. Remember... they are on a time schedule too and so is everyone who gave him money. He can't accept orders and hold the $75 deposits for months waiting to get enough to BEGIN production... if he can't get enough orders here soon he will have to return the money. I get the impression he'd rather tell a customer the product isn't available than have to tell them it'll be an extra three months. Maybe more then because that will be pushing into his busy season....

[BK_GrandMarquis]

As for CV guys? I don't know all the websites but....
Crownvic.net - I am from there... I lurk here cuz I love y'alls cars and stories. I did make a committment and stuck with it. I also tried multiple posts/threads trying to bring more attention to this thread here but nobody ended up coming over and nobody responded... (minimal response overall at least).
I think there are also
www.crownvic.us (http://www.crownvic.us) and some grand marq site... like grandmarquis.net or something... dunno really. If those sites have the same type of members as CVN does then you'll realize quickly that you MM guys have tons more money (on average) than us CV drivers. So when this non-necessary mod comes up they would decide to keep the money for something else better used whereas you guys decide to buy a nice shiny new hood. I wouldn't honestly expect much out of them.
Last thing to keep in mind is Doug here. Remember... they are on a time schedule too and so is everyone who gave him money. He can't accept orders and hold the $75 deposits for months waiting to get enough to BEGIN production... if he can't get enough orders here soon he will have to return the money. I get the impression he'd rather tell a customer the product isn't available than have to tell them it'll be an extra three months. Maybe more then because that will be pushing into his busy season....


Yup, I totally agree. I've seen new products fail to raise enough attention at CV.Net. It's just a different type of people over there. There are a handful of guys over there willing to buy stuff but the majority of them are not.

I was from there initially. I got all my parts because the Marauder group just have more resources to get things done.

I haven't voted because I kinda figured this would be a very picky subject. It's hard to put something that is primarily cosmetic on a car and expect everyone to agree.

[AzMarauder]

Champion FGP (aka Doug) has a good point...
40 people commited to purchase the dual scoop ram air style hood, but he has only received 5 orders so far, that is 35 short of the 40 people who commited to purchase.
So where are the dual scoop ram air style hood people at??????

Well my money is where my mouth (or vote is).

I am one of the 5 apparently.

[Ed Tarras]

Sorry, but I must have missed something. Is the dual hood going into production? Who do I need to contact or send my deposit to? One last question, will the hood be painted or do I need to get that handled?

[Raudermaster]

The dual scoop is getting made. The Cobra R is the "dilema" one as of now. The hood will not be painted I don't believe.

[Fourth Horseman]

Yeah, guess I was confused as well. I thought that only one of the two designs was going to be made and since my choice (the dual scoop) lost the vote I didn't think it was going forward. I'll call tomorrow and get my deposit down if this is going to happen. Question: if it turns out that we do not get enough people to make it happen will we be able to get our deposits back?

[AzMarauder]

Sorry, but I must have missed something. Is the dual hood going into production? Who do I need to contact or send my deposit to? One last question, will the hood be painted or do I need to get that handled?

PM ChampionFGP in this thread for the contact information and details.

Hopefully we can get all the folks who commited to actually pony up!

[Champion FGP]

Yeah, guess I was confused as well. I thought that only one of the two designs was going to be made and since my choice (the dual scoop) lost the vote I didn't think it was going forward. I'll call tomorrow and get my deposit down if this is going to happen. Question: if it turns out that we do not get enough people to make it happen will we be able to get our deposits back?


No it will not be painted! Yes you will get your refund as long as I don't get started on the mold, That is the point of the deposit is to pay for the mold.

You can contact us at 1-888-416-6273 or e-mail me at championfg@aol.com

[derek6175]

Ordered my Cobra R today. Realized that as time goes on, theres going to be fewer and fewer opourtunities for upgrades (Especially body). Our vehicles (MM forever), will age and become more and more expensive to upgrade.

[Butch]

What ever style you as a group decide on will be the one that I would make. Someone is going to be disappointed no matter what style is picked.

I am not sure it matters anyway I have now taken 5 total orders and nobody has disagreed with the ram air style.

But if I call you and give a $75 deposit on the "R" hood, can I specify that I only want my deposit to go towards the "smooth" version of the "R" hood, and if the gill one gets made instead, I can get my deposit back and not have people pissed at me because you are then minus one person to get the hood done?

That would show that I am truly interested in getting a hood from you, but could be a show stopper on your end if I took my deposit back and your company comes up short on startup money.

[Raudermaster]

The group buy was for only the Cobra R hood and the dual scoop hood. I'm not sure if Doug is going to do the smooth cowl or not. I understood from previous posts of him that he was going to see if there was going to be more comittment for the smooth one and then we would go from there. This seems to be a "dead" thread though. Very disappointed, I mean, what happened to the other dual scoop people who voted for the hood?

[Bowman9]

Yes, the Dual scoop is going to be made.
As long as Doug gets 40 preorders for it, call him with your $75.00 deposit.
So if you want a dual scoop hood and you voted for it or not give Doug a call to place your pre-order now.

You can contact Doug at 1-888-416-6273 or e-mail him at championfg@aol.com

[Fourth Horseman]

I called and spoke with Susan @ Champion today. My deposit is in for a dual scoop hood. Here's hoping we get enough to make this happen.

[mercmatt]

ill be calling in tomorrow for the dual scoop

[djbruce26]

Doug, you know that many of us looked at the Cobra R style and saw gills, wanted gills, and even pre-ordered gills and all from you. If you do change the design to the smooth style I will have to back out... I'm starting to see a large following of guys pushing you to a more cowl induction hood. Keep us updated on here with the status of orders but... like I said, I did order the Cobra R as was originally discussed. If you choose to go smooth (which in my opinion is smarter because there is more support for it) then I will prefer to back out because it's not the product I was wanting.

In case you guys were wondering... I found out forya.
www.crownvic.net
www.crownvic.us
www.grandmarq.net

[Champion FGP]

Doug, you know that many of us looked at the Cobra R style and saw gills, wanted gills, and even pre-ordered gills and all from you. If you do change the design to the smooth style I will have to back out... I'm starting to see a large following of guys pushing you to a more cowl induction hood. Keep us updated on here with the status of orders but... like I said, I did order the Cobra R as was originally discussed. If you choose to go smooth (which in my opinion is smarter because there is more support for it) then I will prefer to back out because it's not the product I was wanting.

In case you guys were wondering... I found out forya.
www.crownvic.net (http://www.crownvic.net)
www.crownvic.us (http://www.crownvic.us)
www.grandmarq.net (http://www.grandmarq.net)


I understand completely. Because there was confusion on the louvers I am afraid some of you guys are going to be left out. Right now most of the orders coming in are for the (ram air) but we are still a long way off.

[KAILUAZ]

Should have had this as a vote, much better than the two up now (IMO);
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2206000-2206999/2206612_101_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2206000-2206999/2206612_100_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2206000-2206999/2206612_102_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2206000-2206999/2206612_104_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2206000-2206999/2206612_105_full.jpg

Goth Vic has it going on!!

[Grifter]

now THAT is what i am talking about.. custom one-off?

[KAILUAZ]

Yeah, functional heat extraction also, look here;
http://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB29&Number=1232902&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

[Shora]

Should have had this as a vote, much better than the two up now (IMO);

I never voted for any of the hoods being offered. I never even posted in the thread because I didn't like either of them. Gills suck on this car and Ram Air is rice because it is non functional. This, however, I would pay for NOW!

[BK_GrandMarquis]

Yeah, that's real NICE!!! That's worth the time and money. gDMjoe has got some good taste in my opinion. ;)

[MarauderTJA]

now THAT is what i am talking about.. custom one-off?

An absolute DITTO^ Nice lines.....

[AzMarauder]

Should have had this as a vote, much better than the two up now (IMO);
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2206000-2206999/2206612_101_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2206000-2206999/2206612_100_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2206000-2206999/2206612_102_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2206000-2206999/2206612_104_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2206000-2206999/2206612_105_full.jpg

Goth Vic has it going on!!

I disagree...

Maybe it is just the angle the pictures are taken from but the lines on the sides of the hood scoop do not match the angle of the body lines in the original hood. To me that makes the scoop look "stuck" on the hood.

Everyone's mileage may differ of course.

[juno]

There may not be much heat extraction there. The opening looks too close to the high pressure area in front of the windshield.


Yeah, functional heat extraction also, look here;
http://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB29&Number=1232902&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

[djbruce26]

Anyone know what the most recent order count is up to? I'm curious if we'll be doing the slotted version of the Cobra R or if it will fail... I'm also curious to see if you guys will be getting your dual hood scoops. I'll cross my fingers for you.

[Raudermaster]

Is there an update?

[james79stang]

well i just did my deposit on ram air... say's i am # 5... let's get rolling

[gja]

I am #6 for the Dualie

[quota]

I would go for a "Dual Scoop Ram Air".
But I would ask you to ship it to Canada. I would of course pay for the shipping costs. Paypal being the recommended option...

Regards,
JP

[djbruce26]

So what are the numbers up to now?

Already knowing the Cobra R numbers are low... Doug, what timeframe were you thinking of for doing refunds if we don't have enough people?

[Champion FGP]

So what are the numbers up to now?

Already knowing the Cobra R numbers are low... Doug, what timeframe were you thinking of for doing refunds if we don't have enough people?


Cobra r has 1
ram air has 8


If we dont get close I will issue refunds after Oct 15 I need to get started on the molds by then if I want to get them done by first of the year I will be at the NMRA race in Bowling Green Ky. this comming up weekend, If any of you are there please come and talk to me in the manufacturers midway.

[mercmatt]

i know you 40 was needed to select the style but how many actual orders need to be placed to get started. i forgot.

[Shora]

i know you 40 was needed to select the style but how many actual orders need to be placed to get started. i forgot.

He will only produce the hood(s) if he gets at least 40 orders for a specific style. Example, if he gets thirty (30) dual scoop and ten (10) cobra then it is still a no go.

After all, he is running a business to make money and that is the min. number of hoods he needs to cover costs. For those who really want one, I suggest doing some leg work and convince members of other sites to also order the hoods to bring the numbers up.

Good luck.

[KAILUAZ]

You all should do one like this, its soooooo awesome;
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/261000-261999/261404_86_full.jpg

:flamer:

[AzMarauder]

Well... I know it sure is frustrating... to see how many people voted for either type of hood but when it is time to pony up... it was all talk and no action.

[KillJoy]

Well... I know it sure is frustrating... to see how many people voted for either type of hood but when it is time to pony up... it was all talk and no action.


Actually, quite a few of us voted w/ a contingency. For me, it was the Cobra R w/ no gills. For others it was a lack of what the final product would actually end up looking like. Sure it might be close to the concept image, but is it exact?

I agree though. I feel we may have over expressed our interest :depress:

KillJoy

[Champion FGP]

This is what I am thinking!

If we can get the orders up to 20 hoods, The cost of those hoods will be $375.00, $300.00 + $75.00 deposit

(This will be the price for those who leave a deposit!)

For the rest of you who wants to wait and see the finished product. the cost will be $475.00.

I believe this is fare because the first group is helping me with the cost of the mold.

[Shora]

This is what I am thinking!

If we can get the orders up to 20 hoods, The cost of those hoods will be $375.00, $300.00 + $75.00 deposit

(This will be the price for those who leave a deposit!)

For the rest of you who wants to wait and see the finished product. the cost will be $475.00.

I believe this is fare because the first group is helping me with the cost of the mold.

Sounds fair to me. After all, risk takers should get something for their risk.

Note: I am not trying to suggest that buying a hood from you is a risk, only that buying something without seeing the final product is.

[AzMarauder]

Sounds fair to me. After all, risk takers should get something for their risk.

Note: I am not trying to suggest that buying a hood from you is a risk, only that buying something without seeing the final product is.

Being realistic.. there is always a risk....

I concluded the deal on my MM and drove cross-country to get it.. sight unseen. Matter of fact I'd never even ridden/driven an MM before that.

I am willing to take a risk on the hoods...

Others may not be in the position or willing to take such a risk... but if that was the case up front they should have avoided the poll to start with. It clearly stated "commitment to buy".:nono:

[FordNut]

I'd pay $500 up front for a hood that suits me. Cobra R, smooth top (no gills).

[FordNut]

Looks like this ain't gonna happen. Here's what I'm planning to do now:

1. Get a Mustang Cobra R hood ('95 version without gills instead of '00 version with them). Here's one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=290036504021

2. Hack up the mustang hood and fit it to a Marauder hood (mockup, marking position, etc)

3. Make a template and transfer the position to the bottom of the Marauder hood.

4. Cutout the Marauder hood so it opens to the cowl vent but still has framing/support.

5. Bond the scoop to the hood and paint it.

I think I'll wait until next spring to do it though. Fortunately I was able to find exactly the type of cowl hood I want by visiting 'stang shops. The '95 Cobra R style hood is what I've been wanting all along.

[MarauderTJA]

Looks like this ain't gonna happen. Here's what I'm planning to do now:

1. Get a Mustang Cobra R hood ('95 version without gills instead of '00 version with them). Here's one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=290036504021

2. Hack up the mustang hood and fit it to a Marauder hood (mockup, marking position, etc)

3. Make a template and transfer the position to the bottom of the Marauder hood.

4. Cutout the Marauder hood so it opens to the cowl vent but still has framing/support.

5. Bond the scoop to the hood and paint it.

I think I'll wait until next spring to do it though. Fortunately I was able to find exactly the type of cowl hood I want by visiting 'stang shops. The '95 Cobra R style hood is what I've been wanting all along.

I like your idea Brian. I think I may do the same thing but with a 2." raised cowl setup w/rear heat extraction, like the CV I saw here.

[Bowman9]

I would like to apologize to Doug at Champion Fiberglass Products for wasting his time.
I hope that this experience does not ruining the possibility of working with him in the future on other such projects for our Marauders/Marquis/Crown Vics.

[Champion FGP]

sorry everyone

It has not broke 10 orders Start to expect your refunds after the 15th of Oct unless something changes.

If you want to try something else I am open to suggestions

[Fourth Horseman]

Rats. :( Thanks for making us this offer, Doug. Sorry it didn't work out. It's a small community here and tough to get enough orders together for aftermarket parts like this. I appreciate you working with us. Maybe at some point in the future we can make it happen.

[grampaws]

sorry everyone

It has not broke 10 orders Start to expect your refunds after the 15th of Oct unless something changes.

If you want to try something else I am open to suggestions


How many orders were there and for what hood??:confused:

[juno]

I still think there is enough interest, unfortunately there was too much confusion on the design. I personally was excited about getting a functional heat extraction hood. I do like the looks of the dual scoop, but I would prefer to spend my money on something functional. If you can show me a better picture of what it will look like, I may go for it and add some vents myself similar to some of the stangs.

[Champion FGP]

I have 1, deposit for the heat ex. hood

I have 9, for the ram air

I could hold off till Nov 1, Any later than that It would be almost impossible to get done before I start to get busy

[gja]

To all that voted, and effectively LIED, thanks for wasting all of our time. Think about what you have done, you have wasted the time and effort of a good-hearted vendor who was, by all measures, going "above and beyond" in an effort to give us choices. Also, you wasted the time and dashed the hopes of those you share the Marauder affiliation with.
Next time you see "commitment to buy poll" don't bulls__t and just click away...
Doug, i am ashamed for the ones who voted and effectively WELCHED.

[CRZYBIKER]

Here is the reason this did not work out. A lot of people; I am sure I am not the only one want to see someone just pick one style and say take it or leave it. When I see deposits going in for two styles and neither are building good numbers I have no motivation to make a deposit myself because it is quite clear that the deposits are being split between two styles and there will be no one winner. There was a winner of this poll, so deposits should be based only on that style hood; when people only have one choice and all deposits applied are for one style people will be more willing to commit themselves.
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[KillJoy]

To all that voted, and effectively LIED, thanks for wasting all of our time. Think about what you have done, you have wasted the time and effort of a good-hearted vendor who was, by all measures, going "above and beyond" in an effort to give us choices. Also, you wasted the time and dashed the hopes of those you share the Marauder affiliation with.
Next time you see "commitment to buy poll" don't bulls__t and just click away...
Doug, i am ashamed for the ones who voted and effectively WELCHED.


:shake: :eek: :shake:

KillJoy

[Power Surge]

As I posted previously, the problem with this working was giving people a choice. That makes people split into several groups of different things, and dilutes the whole idea because people then get specific on their requests, which would never happen. If someone had come on and said "we are going to have this one hood made, who wants one", I'd bet there would have been a ton more orders.

[KAILUAZ]

Just make one like GothVic's and call it a day. I'm sure you would get plenty of orders between here and the Vic crowd. Good luck all.....

[Fourth Horseman]

Just make one like GothVic's and call it a day. I'm sure you would get plenty of orders between here and the Vic crowd. Good luck all.....

If we go that route then I'd suggest starting over with a new poll, new deposits, etc. I'm not interested in a hood based on GothVic's and would rather just have my deposit back.

[SergntMac]

To all that voted, and effectively LIED, thanks for wasting all of our time. Think about what you have done, you have wasted the time and effort of a good-hearted vendor who was, by all measures, going "above and beyond" in an effort to give us choices. Also, you wasted the time and dashed the hopes of those you share the Marauder affiliation with.
Next time you see "commitment to buy poll" don't bulls__t and just click away...
Doug, i am ashamed for the ones who voted and effectively WELCHED.Ease up my friend, there has been much confusion and discussion here, well over 200 posts worth. We have drifted from the intent of the opening post, yes. But no one lied, and no one deserves an azz chewing. Time to get back on track.

IMHO, this poll was doomed from the beginning. Asking folks to commit to purchase a product with only a suggestion of what it could look like, was asking a lot. 200+ posts of suggestions and desires is the only product on sale.

I didn't vote or commit, but I posted my thoughts on product style. If and when a single offering matures to the beta/sample level on a Marauder would be the time to ask for deposits. Asking both questions at one time in a poll, was a false start on brainstorming, even the ramrod on this project, Bowman9, suggested a third option in post #64. IMHO, this product was not ready to roll out, and the timing on financial commitment was premature.

This deal began back in August, and a lot in the initial offer has changed. Since then, the MM.Net management has changed too. The new owners have concerns over this deal, as they do over other "look-a-like" vendors. I cannot possibly read every post, but I peeked at a few. It looks like something may still be alive, so, I'll let things ride for now. When Champion FGP announces they will issue refunds, I'll close this thread. It's consuming a lot of bandwidth, and appers to be going nowhere.

The next time a single product roll out gathers this much moss, there will be vendor issues to agree upon with management. Until then, carry on gents.

[grampaws]

If the Mach 1 hood is still possible, I'm still in the market..
Ihave no intention of appologizing.
clarity is lacking in this Thread and the
hood that will be manufactured still in question.

I have 1, deposit for the heat ex. hood

I have 9, for the ram air

I could hold off till Nov 1, Any later than that It would be almost impossible to get done before I start to get busy.

This response clears up a lot and might persuade myself to part
with some cash for the Ram air!! The hood I originally was interested in.
Long live RAm Air!!

[MarauderTJA]

Ease up my friend, there has been much confusion and discussion here, well over 200 posts worth. We have drifted from the intent of the opening post, yes. But no one lied, and no one deserves an azz chewing. Time to get back on track.

IMHO, this poll was doomed from the beginning. Asking folks to commit to purchase a product with only a suggestion of what it could look like, was asking a lot. 200+ posts of suggestions and desires is the only product on sale.

I didn't vote or commit, but I posted my thoughts on product style. If and when a single offering matures to the beta/sample level on a Marauder would be the time to ask for deposits. Asking both questions at one time in a poll, was a false start on brainstorming, even the ramrod on this project, Bowman9, suggested a third option in post #64. IMHO, this product was not ready to roll out, and the timing on financial commitment was premature.

This deal began back in August, and a lot in the initial offer has changed. Since then, the MM.Net management has changed too. The new owners have concerns over this deal, as they do over other "look-a-like" vendors. I cannot possibly read every post, but I peeked at a few. It looks like something may still be alive, so, I'll let things ride for now. When Champion FGP announces they will issue refunds, I'll close this thread. It's consuming a lot of bandwidth, and appers to be going nowhere.

The next time a single product roll out gathers this much moss, there will be vendor issues to agree upon with management. Until then, carry on gents.

10-4 to that Mac:up:

[djbruce26]

I bet half of that bandwidth is me checking back for updates.... To be honest I knew it was doomed about a week or two after it started. There was ME who actually ponied up for a Cobra R style.... then a few guys at the time had done the same for the ram air hood. I apologized to Doug then. I've now waited nearly a month to get my money back (because I knew it would result in that) and now there is a suggestion of waiting till Nov. 1. Either way I know how this is going to end... Doug, do yourself a favor and just drop it for now. I'm sorry we've given you hopes of doing this project and it turned into dust... but as Kansas would likely agree, in the end everything is such. Sometime in the future if we've got more people committed to a single idea I'm certain you'll be the first to know. Thanks for trying for us Doug. No matter what the others say I still think you are an upstanding gent (jk... they've said nothing but good stuff about ya).

To those who voted but never called.... Why?
To those who voted with a contingency..... why? I mean... I didn't go and vote for a Libertarian on the condition Kerry lost did I? No, I picked a candidate and voted. I wish the thread would have been more clear on this so everyone knew what was going on...



*If I've offended anyone please e-mail me or call me and we can talk. djbruce26 =*at*= gmail.com. This was not my intention with most of my statements and I don't want anyone to hold a grudge over this issue.



For everyone else... let's realize the fate we've been staring at for the last few weeks now so we can move on and learn from it. IF you want to re-make this thread then do so.... but please get it narrowed to one design in another thread first so that when it comes down to it people will actually commit and buy.
I'm in college going for a degree in marketing... first thing I coulda toldya is that although 53 people say Yea! on the Cobra R... that means FAR less actual orders. Now I never woulda guessed I'd be the only one ordering.... but okay... you catch my drift.

[KillJoy]

To those who voted with a contingency..... why?

Because, in the beginning, a style and PRICING was never known. Would you commit to buy something, and then find out that it was not what you wanted, and 3 times more than you expected it to be? I think not.

KillJoy

[FordNut]

... thanks for wasting all of our time.....

You're welcome.

[gja]

Some folks here don't like the unvarnished truth, harsh as it may be.
Pity, that. I will post nothing more on this thread. i will fab my hood myself, as little time as I have it will be worth it.

[Bowman9]

The only thing I can suggest is that the next person who takes up this quest, is that they use the following poll option for voting.
"Make votes public: Displays all users who voted, and what choice they voted for."
That way it can weed out those who are not actually interested.

I wash my hands of the whole thing.

[juno]

If the hood I voted for right away would be made, I would buy it. But that changed somewhere along the line. I did not vote for any of the "final" non functional designs.

[O's Fan Rich]

I mentioned this thread to my wife. I said it looks like the deposit check will come back.
She told me she forgot and apologized...It's really my fault since I did not follow up sooner. I'd still like the hood.. should I even bother to send it out?

[SergntMac]

It has not broke 10 orders Start to expect your refunds after the 15th of Oct unless something changes.

I wash my hands of the whole thing.
All future interest and deposit refund inquiries should go directly to Champion FGP offline.

[Dennis Reinhart]

This is a commit to buy poll, so if you don't have the cash you should not be voting.

As you all know nobody makes an aftermarket hood for the Marauder/Marquis/Vic, but Doug from "Champion Fiberglass Products" has shown interest in such a project.
http://www.championfiberglassproducts .com/

In the previous custom hood poll we narrowed down the choices between two styles, the Cobra R Raised Cowl and the Dual Scoop Ram Air.

Doug stated in an earlier post "If I had a commitment for 40 hoods I would eat the cost of the mold."
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=25482&highlight=hood
The estimated cost is in the mid to high 300 dollar range.

So I am starting this poll to see how many will commit to buy between the two choices.
The results of the poll will then be forwarded to Doug.

This poll which will be opening for 30 days.

Cobra R Raised Cowl (exactly style to be determined)
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/7/8/7/mercurymaruderhood04.jpg

Dual Scoop Ram Air (exactly style to be determined)
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/7/8/7/mercurymaruderhood06.jpg

I have called three companies and they will no commit and I do not blame them unless we can get a committed group to this why would any company invest over a 1000 in a mold for a few sales, this is the issue we are having now trying to get a hood for Tod's car