View Full Version : Why my next car could be a GM
bigslim
08-25-2006, 08:10 AM
With GM making the Camaro and now maybe these cars I could very easily buy a GM as a next car.
This article states that the Australian built Holden Commodore could easliy and cheaply be amde into a Pontiac. These cars were built with the US market in mind.
This new Commodore will have a 362hp, 390pdft of torque. These would be rear wheel drive cars. It said it would help GM make Pontiac a rear wheel drive company.
It also shows the Caprice which is a stretched version of the Commodore. Here are pictures;
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/bigslim/2008GrandPrix.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/bigslim/HoldenCaprice.jpg
BAD MERC
08-25-2006, 08:38 AM
Please don't pollute the MM.net board.
STLR FN
08-25-2006, 08:38 AM
If they build it like that I'll take one or two....
Only if Billy boy and others at Ford get there stuff together and build this:
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/1576-1.jpg
KillJoy
08-25-2006, 09:06 AM
That would be one nice looking Pontiac! A definate contender to replace our Grand Am ;)
KillJoy
Haggis
08-25-2006, 09:07 AM
With GM making the Camaro and now maybe these cars I could very easily buy a GM as a next car.
This article states that the Australian built Holden Commodore could easliy and cheaply be amde into a Pontiac. These cars were built with the US market in mind.
This new Commodore will have a 362hp, 390pdft of torque. These would be rear wheel drive cars. It said it would help GM make Pontiac a rear wheel drive company.
It also shows the Caprice which is a stretched version of the Commodore.
The gto is going to the Commodore platform and remaim a 2 door.
fastblackmerc
08-25-2006, 09:07 AM
Wasn't the latest reincarnation of the GP a GM-Australian makeover? Look how they ******ed that up!
bigslim
08-25-2006, 09:07 AM
It will never happen at Ford.
If they build it like that I'll take one or two....
Only if Billy boy and others at Ford get there stuff together and build this:
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/1576-1.jpg
fastblackmerc
08-25-2006, 09:15 AM
It will never happen at Ford.
I agree... won't happen until or unless the current wimps and candy a$$es in upper managment at Ford are gone.
fastblackmerc
08-25-2006, 09:15 AM
It will never happen at Ford.
I agree... won't happen until or unless the current wimps and candy a$$es in upper managment at Ford are gone.
Raudermaster
08-25-2006, 09:49 AM
STLR FN, isn't that called the 429 concept or something like that? I can't quite remember the name of it. I remember seeing it on conceptcarz.com a longggg time ago.
Meteorite
08-25-2006, 09:51 AM
Haha ... I read the title of your thread, Slim, and assumed you meant GM = Grand Marquis! :D
duhtroll
08-25-2006, 10:15 AM
The Camaro I like, but . . .
Pontiac = Driving Excrement. I have never once been in a Pontiac that I liked or was the least bit comfortable to sit in.
O's Fan Rich
08-25-2006, 11:13 AM
If they'd only had built the '49...... Man, I'd turn gay to have that car....
If I had to... which I wouldn't.. what I mean is see, I really
Oh forget it. I liked that concept.
The car that is, the '49 concept car..... sheeeshhhh.
Breadfan
08-25-2006, 11:23 AM
If they build it like that I'll take one or two....
Only if Billy boy and others at Ford get there stuff together and build this:
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/1576-1.jpg
Cool car but needs styling work in my opinion. Looks like a Chrysler 300C mated wtih a Fusion. Just my opinion!
Still Ford should take notice! We've talked about this before, Ford also has exciting cars in Australia, including a 4-door sport sedan with a powerful V8 and RWD.
Hate to say this folks, but Australians are getting more American-Iron than we do.
VNMUS
08-25-2006, 12:01 PM
That's all I need. More competition for my CSVT. :confused:
MarauderMarc
08-25-2006, 12:28 PM
Their luxury sedan will be sold in Korea as a Daewoo.....huh? Gm is Korean now?:lol:
jobrien8
08-25-2006, 02:08 PM
Interesting concept Slim. Hope you don't lose your UAW job at Ford.
Bigdogjim
08-25-2006, 02:30 PM
I have nothing to say.
94_302
08-25-2006, 02:53 PM
I wish we got the Aussie FPV Falcon either motor would be fine.
http://www.fantasycars.com/gallery/Cars/Ford/2003%20FPV%20BA%20GT/fpv_bagt1.jpg
Joe Walsh
08-25-2006, 03:35 PM
I think that it looks better, more distinctive, than the current generation GTO.
But the Caprice.....Isn't that a VW???...:sleepy:
RCSignals
08-25-2006, 03:36 PM
With GM making the Camaro and now maybe these cars I could very easily buy a GM as a next car.
This article states that the Australian built Holden Commodore could easliy and cheaply be amde into a Pontiac. These cars were built with the US market in mind.
This new Commodore will have a 362hp, 390pdft of torque. These would be rear wheel drive cars. It said it would help GM make Pontiac a rear wheel drive company.
It also shows the Caprice which is a stretched version of the Commodore. Here are pictures;
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/bigslim/2008GrandPrix.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v175/bigslim/HoldenCaprice.jpg
More dream articles from so-called car mags.
I've read nothing that is definitive from GM that they will be building the Camaro. A lot of dancing around the issue.
Same on bringing another Australian built car to NA.
Same from DCX on the Challenger.
Maybe they will all be built as hybrids.
When you can go to a dealer, lay your hands on one and pay cash for it, believe it. Until then...........
VNMUS
08-25-2006, 03:38 PM
The Falcon is a hot topic on the SVT boards also. I don't think it will ever happen though. :mad:
Donny Carlson
08-25-2006, 04:12 PM
I've read nothing that is definitive from GM that they will be building the Camaro. A lot of dancing around the issue.
Same on bringing another Australian built car to NA.
Same from DCX on the Challenger.
Both have been officially greenlighted. In fact, in today's USA Today there's an ad where you can win a Challenger.
http://www.dodge.com/challengersweepstakes/index.html
http://www.dodge.com/challengersweepstakes/img/drz_left.jpg (http://www.dodge.com/en/challenger/index.html)
http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2006/112_news060810_2009_chevy_cama ro_production/
I guess you guys over on BON and CVN don't get out much.
Bluerauder
08-25-2006, 04:14 PM
Looks like a Chrysler 300C mated with a Fusion.
:eek: Whatever happened to safe s3x !! :eek:
I can get that image out of my head .... but I think you're right !! :rofl:
MarauderTJA
08-25-2006, 05:22 PM
Hopefully Ford will get their act together to compete with GM. Would be cool to see a 08 Marauder with a 5.4....probably will never happen though:alone: .
Joe Walsh
08-25-2006, 05:52 PM
The Falcon is a hot topic on the SVT boards also. I don't think it will ever happen though. :mad:
Falcon is very FAST, Cool looking in a european way, would compete heads up against GM, and would peek lots of enthusiasts interest.
Heck they might even sell in decent numbers at a profit....
That is four, er......FIVE very good reasons why FORD will never do it!
bigslim
08-25-2006, 06:28 PM
Interesting concept Slim. Hope you don't lose your UAW job at Ford.
The way we are going we all may lose our jobs. I have tried to be loyal but it is getting harder and harder everyday. When the big brass at the top start listening to the guys on the floor then I may start believing in this company again. As for right now, I have lost the fate in Ford.
bigslim
08-25-2006, 06:31 PM
I would buy that in a heartbeat. I sent Mark Fields a letter asking why don't they bring the European cars over here and sell them as Mercurys since they don't know which direction Mercury should go in. I never got a response.
I wish we got the Aussie FPV Falcon either motor would be fine.
http://www.fantasycars.com/gallery/Cars/Ford/2003%20FPV%20BA%20GT/fpv_bagt1.jpg
bigslim
08-25-2006, 06:34 PM
This is the platform that will be used for the upcoming GTO, Camaro, Impala and other future rear-wheel-drive cars.
VNMUS
08-25-2006, 07:46 PM
Hopefully Ford will get their act together to compete with GM. Would be cool to see a 08 Marauder with a 5.4....probably will never happen though:alone: .
Just drop the SVT Lightning engine in there. I'd be happy with that :D
STLR FN
08-25-2006, 11:02 PM
The one I posted is the 427 concept from '02 or '03. Think it was out before the 300C but not to sure.
Slim,
I know what ya mean. And Fields....
Vortex
08-26-2006, 06:46 AM
Heres the one Ford should build.
RCSignals
08-26-2006, 11:32 PM
The one I posted is the 427 concept from '02 or '03. Think it was out before the 300C but not to sure.
..............
Yes and Yes.
they sort of built the 427, just FWD with a V6 instead....
RCSignals
08-26-2006, 11:40 PM
Both have been officially greenlighted. In fact, in today's USA Today there's an ad where you can win a Challenger.
http://www.dodge.com/challengersweepstakes/index.html
http://www.dodge.com/challengersweepstakes/img/drz_left.jpg (http://www.dodge.com/en/challenger/index.html)
http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2006/112_news060810_2009_chevy_cama ro_production/
In another article, Waggoner's quote was a little less direct, and Lutz would not go as far as to say it is official, which probably means it is, but don't spend any money yet.
Funny how when DrZ left for Mercedes the move was hailed as a sign of a sort of independence for 'Chrysler' That didn't last long.
I guess you guys over on BON and CVN don't get out much.
????? who ????
Motorhead350
08-26-2006, 11:41 PM
I still prefer old cars.
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