View Full Version : In Remembrance, 11 September 2001
Bluerauder
09-08-2006, 10:38 AM
11 September 2006
This coming Monday is the 5th Anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center (WTC) complex, the Pentagon, and on UA Flight #93 over Shanksville, PA. A total of 2,973 persons were killed that day. Another 24 remain missing.
:flag: I will be flying my flag proudly on Monday “In Remembrance” of the victims and their families. Hope that you will join me in doing the same. Never forget. I won’t. :flag:
On the morning of 11 September 2001, I was checking out of the hotel at the US Military Academy at West Point, NY following a conference. As I was passing through the main gate in a rental car toward Highland Falls and Newark International Airport, I heard the first announcement of a small plane striking one of the towers at the World Trade Center. Initially, this struck me as very odd. I thought to myself that a small plane would have to work hard to hit such an obvious building. Maybe the pilot had a medical emergency and lost control of the aircraft.
About 15 minutes later, the radio announcer revealed that the second tower had been hit by another plane. The sky was clear and it was a beautiful day, no way this was accidental. I knew immediately that this was a deliberate attack and that terrorists were responsible. I continued on my way south along the Palisades Parkway and then the Garden State Parkway. Several emergency responders with blue lights flashing and rolling pretty fast passed me along the way. As I got closer to the Tappan Zee Bridge, I saw signs that said “New York City was Closed”. No traffic other than emergency vehicles were permitted.
I continued on my way toward Newark airport. Just as I crossed into New Jersey on the Garden State Parkway, the radio announcer said that a 3rd plane had hit the Pentagon (my old office at 3C529 was obliterated in that instant). We were at war with someone. I needed to stop and collect my thoughts – what to do now? A rest stop with gas station was only about a mile ahead. I pulled in and stopped and just sat a few minutes. Get a coke and calm down some – what the heck is happening??? Is the airport even open now?? What about the rental car?? Try to call – fat chance – everything is busy. While debating with myself whether I should continue on to the airport, a northbound car pulled into the reststop. A guy staggered out of his car and sat down on the curb. I rushed over to see if I could assist. He just said that one of the World Trade Center towers just collapsed. I jumped back in my rental car and turned on the radio. I was stunned and in disbelief. The past hour had been surreal.
In that single minute, my decision was clear. I am driving back to Virginia. Screw the rental car, I need to get home. I turned around and headed back the way I came. Back to I-87, then I-287 to I-78 to I-83 and south. All day I listened to reports on the radio. Plane crashing in Pennsylvania. Just words, no pictures, no TV, no CNN news reports. Lots of speculation and the images forming in my head were difficult to accept. The road rolled on. Tried to call home several times – no luck at all. Easton, Harrisburg, and York, PA Baltimore, MD then Washington, DC and out to Dulles Airport. Had to drop off the rental and pick up my car.
As I approached the National Rental car gate, I noticed that it was closed. In fact, traffic at Dulles was nearly non-existent. Very unusual – a virtual ghost town. I stop at the gate and a guy came over and opened it. I told him that I was there to turn in the car. No charge for the car. No shuttles back to the parking lot. One of the National guys offered to drop me off in his personal car as he was departing. Got in my T-Bird and clicked on the radio. More talk and speculation. Four planes total. US airspace shut down completely.
The guy at the parking lot toll booth waved me through. No charge today. Home was still about 45 minutes away. More radio reports. Both WTC towers gone. Pentagon still burning. Many people dead and dying. Still can’t call home.
I pulled into my driveway at exactly 5 PM that night. My trip had been a full 8 hours from start to finish. My wife ran out to the car and just threw her arms around me. For a minute or maybe more we just stood there. Finally, she said “I know you too well …. I knew that you’d be driving back today”. If I said that I didn’t break down and cry briefly at that moment, I’d be lying. The rush of the past 8 hours completely enveloped me in that moment. In the car for so long I had not been able to share my building grief at all of the events of the day. Finally being at home with everyone safe and together, I lost control. There I said it.
I went into the house and clicked on the TV to see the video and images that most everyone else had be seeing all day. Several birthday presents sat on the dining room table. There would be no party tonight. It took more than a week to even bring myself to open any of them. It just didn't seem appropriate.
Over time, I would find out that 22 of the victims at the Pentagon were from Prince William County, VA were among the nearly 3,000 who died that day. One was an usher at our church. One of our VFD paramedics was in New York City on vacation. He died in the WTC collapse after he rushed from his nearby hotel to offer his help. Several other friends and acquaintences had close calls and near misses or just happened to be somewhere else when their offices were destroyed. I am still overwhelmed by the events of that day. Putting them down on paper like this kinda helps. Thanks for listening.
VNMUS
09-08-2006, 10:41 AM
This day is important to me for another reason as well. My daughter was born on 9/11 right in between the 1st and 2nd plane hitting the WTC. Because of this I try and keep the day up tempo. It's her 5th birthday on Monday :)
SID210SA
09-08-2006, 11:56 AM
I was at work that fateful morning and just sat dumbfounded as the events unfolded. I cried after I got home that day and several days after just thinking about all the that died. Reading your story brought more tears to my eyes while I am again at work. My tears flow for the many people who were touched by that tragic event and I pray for all of us.
WE WILL NEVER FORGET!!!!
fairlane347
09-08-2006, 12:14 PM
I did not know anyone on that day, but I felt it for all the others. My AMERICAN flag has been up on my house and will remain there, I want to replace it with a new one so it can be out all the time. My neighbor's son just out of high school went into the Marines.:flag: Toby Keiths "Angry American" song says it best, his rerun show on CMT last night still gave me chills. USA :flag: WE WILL NEVER FORGET!
Breadfan
09-08-2006, 12:17 PM
Charlie you pretty much know where I live and work considering we're very close to each other, we're also very close to the Pentagon, and in similar industries. So yeah, that day hit close to home in more ways than one. And not just here but in NYC and PA as well.
My flag is always on the wall indoors, it'll go outdoors for the weekend through Monday. Already got one on the Marauder.
DEFYANT
09-08-2006, 12:33 PM
I had just woke up and logged on to the internet. I saw a new ticker saying a plane "accidently" crashed into the WTC. I thought "stupid cessna(sp?)"
Being from NY originally, I went down stairs and told Lisa and clicked on the news. I was just in time to catch the second plane. Like everyone else, I knew this was no accident.
I remember going to work that day. After siging up to respond to NY if needed, I went to my assigned patrol area. The look on the faces of the other drivers was incredable. Everyone had the same blank stare was was driving slow. No planes in the sky, cell phone service was out to NY, no music on the radio...
With all this going on, I got a call for service. Some guys kid had his bike stolen. I got there and with the same blank stare, I listen to this guy rant about how f-ed up things are because this bike is gone!
I want to reply to this guy so bad!: Buddy, the world as you know it has just ended - and your *****ing about a bike?
cruzer
09-08-2006, 01:57 PM
My flag has been flood-lighted and flown since the first troops landed in Iraq and will continue as long as I am able to keep it that way. I witnessed the horrible events of 9/11 from the first TV news flash in the comfort of my den. The total shock, but not disbelief , was devastating. As an airline pilot, I could relive what the crews were going thru--we had trained for and discussed hijackings since the first one happened. This scenario had been discussed, but no one seemed capable of believing it could ever happen, at that time. I lost some dear friends that day--and will never forget them--they are heros in my mind. Modern Americans have the bad trait of forgetting quickly and not learning from the past . I cannot imagine not getting upset everytime 9/11 is mentioned--others just say "oh yea--has it been that long ?" In Ginny's and my families there are 11 service veterans--representing all services--and Patriotism is a way of life--but my own Grandkids are callus and disinterested when I start on my lecture on Patriotism---where did we go wrong??? It is up to us to keep the Flame of Patriotism burning bright--or the consequenses are unimaginable. God Bless All Who Serve and All Who Lost Their Lives That Fateful Day.
Keep The Faith---Maury
Paul T. Casey
09-08-2006, 02:05 PM
My flag was up prior to 9-11. It has remained up. It will continue to fly until they step over my cold dead body to remove it. Perhaps not so much here on this site, but from what I see around, most peolpe have already forgotten. It was a wake up call, and the majority of Americans just hit the snooze button. I fear it may already be too late.
Blackened300a
09-08-2006, 02:21 PM
I was running loads out of the Bronx to far Rockaway Queens. I had to head back to Queens to refuel and then return to the bronx for another load. When I returned to my shop I heard over the radio that Tower #1 was hit by a plane. I assumed like everyone else that some dopey pilot lost control or flew off course. I was then sent back to the Bronx and while crossing the Triboro Bridge I saw a clear shot of Tower#1 on fire. It was a surreal thing to look at, something I will never forget.
I made it back to the Bronx and flipped on my mini TV. I turned it on just in time to catch the second plane fly into tower #2 and hear that the pentagon was struck.
The forman of the job ran over and told me that there is a threat on the bridge and they are knocking off for the day. On my way back to Queens, One of the Towers fell. There is nothing more terrifing then looking over to my right while crossing the Triboro bridge like I have done 100's of times and seeing only one tower standing surrounded in smoke. by the time I made it off the bridge it came over the radio that the second tower had fallen.
I made it back to my shop and just had this sinking feeling in my stomach the rest of the day as we watched the news reports coming in.
Within 3 days, a faint Burning smell made it to my apartment in Queens and throughout most of the 5 Boroughs. It lasted over 2 weeks which was very eerie and disturbing.
We had sent 4 tractor trailers down on our own dime to help the city with the rescue and recovery effort. Our company is even featured in photographs on a traveling 9/11 memorial that started out in Grand Central station and is making the rounds. We had a issue with some police officers on Canal street so we pulled all our trucks back and refused to work on site unless under a contract.
I was sent down there 5 days later for 24 hours to erect a crane which was to demolish building #7. The westside highway looked like a giant junkyard, there were people standing along the entire route with signs and handing out drinks to anyone who was going in to help. The sadest part were the pictures that were posted all over the city from people asking if anyone knows where their loved ones were.
Some children from the local schools made cards for the rescuers which I still have.
I'll never forget what I saw down there.
duhtroll
09-08-2006, 02:29 PM
I was outside with about 70 HS students when the first plane hit. We came in and heard from other students about the first plane, and turned on the TV just in time to watch the second plane hit. For about 3 minutes we watched the TV - 70+ kids around one 25" screen.
The bell rang and the kids went on about their day. They didn't really respond with panic or overwhelming grief like I know some people our age did. The teachers couldn't/didn't break down, either. Our message to the HS kids was basically "yes, I know, but we still have work to do." It seemed to work. They knew more than we did as they were on the internet already chatting about it, etc.
We had to answer a lot of questions from the middle school kids as to what had happened and why, and we weren't even certain ourselves. Middle school kids like to tell you everything they know, so my classes with them later in the day weren't very productive. A few parents came and picked up their kids from school, but I doubt it was for safety reasons - probably more to just be together. No days off of school, and that was probably for the best.
Of course, AFAIK there was only one person formerly from our state who was killed that day. And boy, did our local news stations try to break themselves in half to connect 9/11 to Iowa (it's as if nothing that happens is important unless it affects or is about us).
I don't think anything stuns kids of HS age like it does us, or at least it doesn't seem like it. We grew up being scared of something - - I don't know if anything scares kids today. Maybe it should.
VNMUS
09-08-2006, 02:43 PM
I was in the operating room with my (ex) wife.
LCSO34
09-08-2006, 03:12 PM
I had just woke up and logged on to the internet. I saw a new ticker saying a plane "accidently" crashed into the WTC. I thought "stupid cessna(sp?)"
Being from NY originally, I went down stairs and told Lisa and clicked on the news. I was just in time to catch the second plane. Like everyone else, I knew this was no accident.
I remember going to work that day. After siging up to respond to NY if needed, I went to my assigned patrol area. The look on the faces of the other drivers was incredable. Everyone had the same blank stare was was driving slow. No planes in the sky, cell phone service was out to NY, no music on the radio...
With all this going on, I got a call for service. Some guys kid had his bike stolen. I got there and with the same blank stare, I listen to this guy rant about how f-ed up things are because this bike is gone!
I want to reply to this guy so bad!: Buddy, the world as you know it has just ended - and your *****ing about a bike?
You know I had a similar incident on that day with a senile old lady. About an hour after the second tower fell, I went to a call where the lady said someone stole her keys to her front door. She had a key ring with about thirty keys all the same to her front door. I was thinking to myself, "Maybe she IS better off not knowing whats going on". Anyway thats the only call I answered that day, funny how things slowdown and MOST people forget all the trivial BS that they call LE about. Anyway the very next night I flew an Alert CAP over a major US city and come first of OCT I was flying missions over A-Stan. My life hasn't been the same since, more active duty than Sheriff'n.
BAD MERC
09-08-2006, 03:13 PM
Everybody needs to visit this site; www.threefortythree.com (http://www.threefortythree.com) . It is a tear-jerker - make sure your speakers are ON and make sure you forward it to everyone that you know. Email it to everyone. Never forget. Freedom isn't free.
Petrograde
09-08-2006, 04:10 PM
I was a Sergeant in the U.S. Army assigned the 101st Airborne deployed to Camp Able Sentry in the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.
At the time it happened, I was in a formation, receiving an award from the Base Commander.
We went on alert right after it happened, (lots of Muslims in the Balkins) I spent a lot of time over the next week with a locked n' loaded M4 Carbine patrolling our perimeter.
God Bless the families left behind.
...and may Bin Laden (and all those like him) die screaming.
LCSO34
09-08-2006, 04:17 PM
On a related note, I spent Labor Day night going down to pick up injured at Balad AB, Iraq. Just thought I would share these pictures. While we were waiting for the patients I penned the note on the inside of the box the flag came in. It was for a local school.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/2/5/7/2/P1010033.JPG
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/2/5/7/2/P1010046.JPG
jgc61sr2002
09-08-2006, 05:58 PM
My flag flys proudly 24 -7.:flag:
My flag flys proudly 24 -7.:flag:
So does mine John- I will never forget watching it unfold on tv and then hearing the fighter jets flying over the house. I went outside and watched the jets it was a surreal scene looking down the block seeing all the neighbors doing the same- no one said a word-we all had that same blank look-we will never forget:flag:
GAMike
09-08-2006, 06:46 PM
One of the things I like most about MM.net, is the Patriotism is so blatantly unPC.:flag: I have only been a member since January, but I know many of you if given the chance to hunt Bin Laden would (and many here have).
A word of thanks to all who serve is great (By that I mean our military, our law enforcement-Fed, State, Local, and Clandestine, our Fire Dept's, our EMT's, and for the most part our Diplomats and Policy Makers).
But.............
We need to do more.......... We need to at every opportunity, remember and remind others of the sacrifices ppl. such as these have made to come this far in 230 some years.
And....... eventhough such progress has been made, ppl. in this country are exposed to real threats no amount of sophistication and advancement can protect them from. Right here in the USA. This is why we must become vigilint <spelling sorry> and vengfull as a nation (I mean would you have rather had Al Gore in office @ 9/11 and after??).
Unfortunately the word progress does not apply to the stone age radicals of Bin Laden's ilk. I am confident he will be dealt with, if he has not been already ( I would rather him go quietly and very painfully, rather than in the public eye....This way we don't have 1000 martyrs lining up to take his place. I don't care if I learn about it 20yrs from now as long as I hear about it before I croak).
Regardless of what BS the media wants to plant in the weak mind of our country, this should be our mission/obligation as citizens. Its citizens and their sacrifices who make and have made this country great and worth fighting for. Who knows where we would be, what progress we could have made, or what contributions those 3000 ppl. would have made to society.
Keep the vigil, so that others can live to their fullest potential and keep making the USA, the Greatest Country in the World.
My colors will never run.:flag:
Bluerauder
09-10-2006, 02:32 PM
:bump: 7890
hitchhiker
09-10-2006, 03:21 PM
:flag: :flag: :flag: God Bless America :flag: :flag: :flag:
Cobra25
09-10-2006, 03:35 PM
I understand first hand how everyone feels. I use too deliever Soda for a number of years to The Window's on the World Rest on the 108th floor and knew a number of the people who worked their. I had a friend she worked for Customs their too. I knew 2 people on a personal level who died their , One a neighbor & another a friend of our family. My Doctors Sister was a capt of the Port Attority police their and died too. Every year I think back of those I knew and the other's who died in this Tragic Event and pray for them. History can't be changed but we can all do our best to see this never happeneds again. May God Bless all who died and all their familys too.
StevenJ
09-10-2006, 03:59 PM
While I was not there personally that day I have visited the aftermath several times. It is saddenning but shows us the realities of the world that we too can be vunerable. Without getting too political, I for one believe we need to keep up on our National Security. Thankfully, several could of have been plots, including the attempt to kill the Canadian priminister by several home grown terrorist, and the would be bombers that were planning on using home made chemicals on airplanes flying out of the UK to destroy U.S. property was also stopped too. It gives me confidence that we can prevent further attacks. Saddly since then, some other unfortunate events have occured. Such as the terrorist bombing of the London Underground. Over all, I feel safer.
martyo
09-10-2006, 04:04 PM
Tomorrow will be a tough day in NYC. You can not imagine what is what like being here five years ago.
"The" City has healed nicely from it's most visible deep wounds but a deeper healing continues.
Mebot
09-10-2006, 04:19 PM
For the younger generation, this will be our moment in time that we will never forget. Our JFK assissination, our Man on the Moon, our Challenger space shuttle. No matter how much older I get, this day will still stick vividly in my mind.
marauder307
09-11-2006, 01:27 AM
Well, it’s not quite 9/11 yet where I am…but WTH, I’ll put this up anyway.
Another night on watch…another useless office exercise…another, and another, and another.
I’m in a lull at the moment, so I’m going to do the one thing I probably shouldn’t: I’m going to actually stop and think about all that’s transpired for me over the last 5 years---how I got to where I’m sitting right now, what I’m doing right now, and why.
The computers are waiting for me. They can wait a bit longer.
I’ve already recounted my personal 9/11 story in another thread (see my thread titled “A Special Rembrance”, or some such thing); I won’t bother copying it here. I’ll start out by saying that ever since Tower 2 hit the ground, I’ve been on duty---in one form or another, in one agency or another, in one place or another. NYC…Boston…Ft. Lauderdale… Guantanamo Bay…Port Arthur/Beaumont…St. Louis…and now Honolulu.
I’m tired. And I deserve to be; don’t care how conceited it sounds, but after all this time and effort and miles, I’m feelin’ considerably whupped.
And still the fight goes on. And on. And on. I have to ask myself: Why is it that we have the world’s single finest military, the best equipment (and the most technically advanced), the best training….he11, the best of everything…and we know where Osama bin Laden is (at least we can narrow it down to a couple of grid squares), and we know why he did what he did, and sent his minions to do what THEY did, and still we can NOT bring down one madman?
We can’t even make him come out, fer chrissakes!
The answer comes back: I guess we don’t want to. Or maybe the PC elements in this country don’t want us to. But that would be ascribing intelligent malice to a group of people who are simply stupid and grossly misguided, and that was one thing my parents always told me not to do: Never ascribe to malice that which could be better explained by mere stupidity. And I’m sure that most folks who traffic this website are of the mind to go out and do That Which Should Be Done…but we are only a few hundred, in a country of hundreds of millions…
So who else could be driving this?
My exploits in the murky world of the Dept. of Defense have revealed to me the truth. Unfortunately I can’t tell it all here…unless Logan cares to undergo the hassle of TS/SCI accreditation for his website, which I doubt.
What I can tell you is this: Take a look around. Particularly those of you in big cities. Noticed something?
I’ll use my home state of Alabama as an example. My sad old beloved hometown of Montgomery…when I was home this summer for my wedding, it tore my heart out to see the place. The old Montgomery Mall has been abandoned. The Eastern Bypass/Boulevard is overcrowded with car traffic but most places that have sprung up along it over the last decade have already closed their doors. The city’s fast moving eastward and will probably become a suburb of Atlanta within the next 20 years.
And the slums and visual corruption that is west Montgomery are growing at an exponential rate…even so, what is the single biggest, most ornate building in west Montgomery?
A mosque.
And only a scant few miles from Maxwell AFB, one of the crown jewels of the USAF…
Further south, in Mobile: A mullah has set up shop in town. While there hasn’t been any hard evidence to tie him into it, there HAS been a curious series of arson incidents, each one rapidly following the mullah’s judgment that the particular business in question is a corrupting force in the local Muslim community.
I have a cousin on the police force in Mobile…
I shudder to think where they might be hiding in Birmingham…and I’d be particularly interested to see if there’s a listing for a mosque or a CAIR center (Council for American-Islamic Relations, a known mouthpiece for the Muslims) in Huntsville, home of the major military installation, Redstone Arsenal…I have word from a college professor friend in Tuscaloosa that the Muslim students on campus are so bad, they’re threatening to take over the campus’ local crime problems from the Greek organizations.
While it’s not in my line, I’ve undertaken a study of HUMINT with respect to the growth of Islamic facilities/organizations/population across the country. The results are the reason that I have not seen a good night’s sleep in nearly six months.
Sarge, I hope you read this…my fervent recommendation to you, my friend, is to double up on your body armor, and get side panels. Chicago’s high on their list. They’re big in Detroit too…maybe that’s why Ford isn’t getting anywhere. When you have Toby Keith, the “Angry American”, hawking your trucks…well, that puts you square in the Muslims’ crosshairs…
It’s almost comic, but the vice corruption around cities like L.A. and Vegas has enticed them in but caused them to fail. Who woulda thought that good ol’ fashioned pleasures of the flesh would triumph over the Muslim agenda? Guess I shouldn’t be surprised…Muslims are SO repressed…
The bottom line here, people, is that the second wave of attacks happened…and we missed it. The Muslims are here, and thanks to the PC types in this country, they’re here to stay. The invasion started, just nobody noticed. And now we’re five years behind.
It’s a lot to digest, I know…I did say I wasn’t sleeping well. Hawaii’s not immune, but then again it never has been---it was the local Japanese populace that aided in the intelligence for Yamamoto’s fleet in WW2. Honolulu has its own set of intrigues to deal with.
I myself kinda poohed-poohed this at first; derided it as a lot of Chicken Little-*********. But after I studied up on the statistics and looked at the co-incidence of domestic problems and Muslim populations…the numbers and the people don’t lie.
There’s no negotiating with these animals. No appeasing. No treaty. We as a country need to learn to pull the trigger---it can’t just be me, or Sarge, or Petrograde, or Bluerauder, or whomever working independently (don’t worry fellas, I was just simply pulling names out of the air---didn’t mean to point a finger at any of you specifically). It has to be a concerted effort.
DON’T believe me. He11, you’d be foolish to take any man at just his word, especially on something like this. But DO actually let your thought processes be stimulated enough to go look at the facts for yourself.
And then…do That Which Must Be Done.
I need to get back to my computers and back to work. Good night.
jerrym3
09-11-2006, 08:01 AM
On 9/11, it all happened right outside our office windows on the NJ Hudson River waterfront.
I didn't see the planes hit, although hundreds of us ran outside to see the smoke rising after we learned about it.
I didn't see the first tower go down, but I heard about it on internet radio.
I did see the second one drop. We were all gathered at the windows looking southeast at the smoke and dust from the first tower when the second one just fell, almost in slow motion. Being inside, we didn't hear anything. After the drop, the remaining buildings looked like tombstones in a foggy graveyard.
Throughout the day, our office lobby and shop/foodcourt filled with people trying to get home from Manhatten. (I actually got a call from a friend of mine that worked in NY. He was calling from our lobby phone. We were let out early, so I drove him home.)
The roads leading into the Lincoln Tunnel area were completely empty. They had been blocked off miles further west. Eerie.
For the next day or two, we heard the continuous sound of fighter jets flying high over the city, and, every now and then, a few came in lower over the Hudson.
I realize that the circumstances are vastly different, and I'm not even suggesting that's there's ANY comparison between the two events, but I now have an idea what the Japanese people went through.
RedMerc04
09-11-2006, 08:37 AM
:flag: Toby Keiths "Angry American" song says it best, his rerun show on CMT last night still gave me chills. USA :flag: WE WILL NEVER FORGET!
I totally agree. Toby is the man and makes music that more people my age should listen to for a little wake up call rather than listen to music that has a very liberal standpoint and has no mention of the fact that 3021 people were murdered 5 years ago or of any of the sacrifices made by our past and present service men and women to make us what we are today. It just gets me nuts how the media and most people so soon forget and just go about their lives like nothing happened. But anyway God Bless and never forget FDNY, NYPD, PAPD, EMS, Marines, Army, Airforce, Coast Guard, Navy on this day or any day for that matter
duhtroll
09-11-2006, 10:27 AM
I don't disagree with your views, but political words such as "liberal" and "conservative" have nothing to do with it.
There are people who are against the war in Iraq, some liberal, and yes many conservative, but that has nothing to do with 9/11. Everyone in the US was united wanting justice after 9/11.
The frustrating thing about 9/11, however, is that it cannot be avenged by invading a country. We could invade ten more countries and we will still not have punished all of the terrorists.
Being anti-war is not anti-justice, and being a liberal or conservative says nothing about whether or not people think the terrorists should pay for what they have done.
I am an independent, anti-war individual (who voted against Bill Clinton twice but is ready to admit he did a nice job running things) who thinks that anyone who hand in planning or executing 9/11 should be eaten alive by fire ants. (might be the worst way to die I can think of)
On this board I am certain I'm thought of as a liberal (simply because I am anti-Bush) but only by those who don't know what it means.
Not everything fits into nice, tidy packages.
If we can remember who did this, and why, we have a good start on stopping them by defending our own soil.
I totally agree. Toby is the man and makes music that more people my age should listen to for a little wake up call rather than listen to music that has a very liberal standpoint and has no mention of the fact that 3021 people were murdered 5 years ago or of any of the sacrifices made by our past and present service men and women to make us what we are today. It just gets me nuts how the media and most people so soon forget and just go about their lives like nothing happened. But anyway God Bless and never forget FDNY, NYPD, PAPD, EMS, Marines, Army, Airforce, Coast Guard, Navy on this day or any day for that matter
fairlane347
09-11-2006, 10:30 AM
Everybody needs to visit this site; www.threefortythree.com (http://www.threefortythree.com) . It is a tear-jerker - make sure your speakers are ON and make sure you forward it to everyone that you know. Email it to everyone. Never forget. Freedom isn't free.
Thanks for this, I passed it on to my whole company. My wifes father died in a fire on the Wauwatos Fire Dept. when she was only three, so this hits home.
KEEP THOSE FLAGS OUT 24/7 mine is.
Bluerauder
09-11-2019, 03:52 AM
Bump .... Never Forget !! :flag:
gdsqdcr
09-11-2019, 10:05 AM
Never Forget!
vkirkend
09-11-2019, 11:19 AM
Bump .... Never Forget !! :flag:
Definitely!!! I will always remember that day and the sacrifices that followed. I'm Proud to be an American!!!!
Peace2Peep
09-11-2019, 11:36 AM
May God Bless these United States of America!
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