View Full Version : Recall for us(maybe)
Hack Goby
10-03-2006, 05:09 AM
Jacob over at CVN ask Darryl and I if we had heard from L/M about this.When we checked our Marauders sure enough both of them were sagging.Now the recall is for fleet cars but if both of ours were sagging it makes you wonder........................ .....................
http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/...n_victoria.htm
DescriptionELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING:INTERIOR/UNDER DASH SummaryON CERTAIN POLICE INTERCEPTORS (CVPI) AND COMMERCIAL HEAVY DUTY (TAXI) VEHICLES, AT EXTREMELY HIGH OPERATING TEMPERATURES, THE SOUND INSULATING PANEL, LOCATED UNDER THE VEHICLE POSITIONED BETWEEN THE EXHAUST SYSTEM AND THE UNDERBODY, COULD SAG AND POSSIBLY CONTACT THE SURFACE OF THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER. ConsequenceIF THIS OCCURS, THE INSULATOR MIGHT EXPERIENCE CHARRING OF THE OUTER LAYER, BURNING ODOR, OR SMOKE WHICH MAY ULTIMATELY RESULT IN A FIRE. RemedyDEALERS WILL REMOVE THE EXISTING DASH INSULATOR AND INSTALL A REVISED DESIGN INSULATOR PAD. THE RECALL BEGAN ON JUNE 3, 2005. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT FORD AT 1-800-392-3673.
SergntMac
10-03-2006, 05:58 AM
Linky no worky, but thanks for the heads-up. I'll check with my dealership.
MM03MOK
10-03-2006, 06:02 AM
http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/ford/ford_crown_victoria.htm
RoyLPita
10-03-2006, 06:09 AM
The 05S32 recall is issued for "Certain 2003 – 2005 model year Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (CVPI) and Commercial Heavy Duty (Taxi) vehicles built at the St. Thomas Assembly Plant from October 10, 2001 through December 14, 2004."
Marauderjack
10-03-2006, 06:38 AM
Funny you should mention this as I was under the car after Todd and Bryan finished the exhaust.....admiring their work and I noticed this insulation on the passenger's side had all but disintegrated and was very crumbly!!!:argue:
It will be interesting what they decide to do....if anything as it looks like it will be tough to replace??:confused:
Marauderjack:burnout:
RR|Suki
10-03-2006, 07:25 AM
Mine is FUBAR too but I had thought it was just because of the exhaust change creating more heat... go figure
Bluerauder
10-03-2006, 07:31 AM
AT EXTREMELY HIGH OPERATING TEMPERATURES, THE SOUND INSULATING PANEL, LOCATED UNDER THE VEHICLE POSITIONED BETWEEN THE EXHAUST SYSTEM AND THE UNDERBODY, COULD SAG AND POSSIBLY CONTACT THE SURFACE OF THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER. ConsequenceIF THIS OCCURS, THE INSULATOR MIGHT EXPERIENCE CHARRING OF THE OUTER LAYER, BURNING ODOR, OR SMOKE WHICH MAY ULTIMATELY RESULT IN A FIRE. RemedyDEALERS WILL REMOVE THE EXISTING DASH INSULATOR AND INSTALL A REVISED DESIGN INSULATOR PAD. THE RECALL BEGAN ON JUNE 3, 2005. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT FORD AT 1-800-392-3673.
I will have to look closer at this on my MM. Back a couple months ago, I noticed a very distinct burning odor when I exited the car on the driver's side. Even posted about it. At the time, I couldn't pinpoint an exact cause. Haven't noticed it for awhile.
Here are some similar posts. This was first posted during June 2005.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19350&highlight=burning+smell
and again
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=24124&highlight=burning+smell
ctrlraven
10-03-2006, 07:34 AM
How interesting because on my driver's side that sound insulating stuff is about a 1/4" or less from sitting on top of the first cat. Passenger side looks ok for now I'm going to look into this.
SergntMac
10-03-2006, 07:39 AM
BTW, if you have custom exhaust, don't waste your time asking to be included in the recall.
Rick-n-Miami
10-03-2006, 08:13 AM
Why would a custom exhaust system void this recall? As far as I can see, it's not the exhaust that is being recalled...
BTW, if you have custom exhaust, don't waste your time asking to be included in the recall.
RR|Suki
10-03-2006, 08:28 AM
Why would a custom exhaust system void this recall? As far as I can see, it's not the exhaust that is being recalled...
They'll Claim that the extra heat from your exhaust is what caused it
SergntMac
10-03-2006, 08:44 AM
They'll Claim that the extra heat from your exhaust is what caused itRight you are my friend. Then it turns into conflict, argument and review by higher authority. In my case, I have better ways to spend my time, but I do not mean to influence any others who may wish to pursue this issue. If it applies to your MM, go for it?
94_302
10-03-2006, 08:55 AM
I noticed it while I was replacing my exhaust. I wonder if it's better to just rip it all out than to leave it when it can cause a fire. It's only sound insulation so I can't imagine it being too important.
RR|Suki
10-03-2006, 08:59 AM
I noticed it while I was replacing my exhaust. I wonder if it's better to just rip it all out than to leave it when it can cause a fire. It's only sound insulation so I can't imagine it being too important.
There are better insulators out there honestly that you can replace it with. On my race mini we have dampener that almost looks like dynamat, hell might be the same idea, the fiber stuff ford uses is all well and good, but better can be had for not too much hastle... just my .02
LordVader
10-03-2006, 10:52 AM
Checked the link and also found this for anyone using Purolator fuel filters:
<TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Make : MERCURY</TD><TD>Model : MARAUDER</TD><TD>Year : 2003</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>Manufacturer : UFI FILTERS USA</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 06E056000 </TD><TD>Recall Date : JUN 13, 2006</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>Component: FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>Potential Number Of Units Affected : 58640</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>Summary:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/images/spacer.gif CERTAIN AFTERMARKET FUEL FILTERS SOLD UNDER THE PUROLATOR BRAND NAME, P/N F65277, SHIPPED FROM JANUARY 16 THROUGH JUNE 2, 2006, FOR USE ON THE ABOVE LISTED PASSENGER VEHICLES. DUE TO INCORRECT DESIGN, THE QUICK CONNECTORS MAY NOT FULLY SEAT WITH THE TUBE INTERFACE, EVEN THOUGH THE PERSON MAKING THE CONNECTION MAY BELIEVE THAT THE QUICK CONNECTOR IS FULLY ATTACHED.
</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>Consequence:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/images/spacer.gif FAILURE OF THIS CONNECTION COULD LEAD TO FUEL SPILLAGE AND, IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE, A FIRE COULD OCCUR.
</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>Remedy:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/images/spacer.gif UFI WILL NOTIFY OWNERS AND REPLACE THE FILTERS FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING JUNE/JULY 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT UFI FILTERS USA AT 800-230-5876.
</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>Notes:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/images/spacer.gif THIS RECALL ONLY PERTAINS TO UFI FILTERS USA (PUROLATOR) AFTERMARKET FUEL FILTERS AND HAS NO RELATION TO ANY ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT INSTALLED ON THE LISTED PASSENGER VEHICLES. CUSTOMERS MAY CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY: 1-800-424-9153); OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
94_302
10-03-2006, 05:09 PM
There are better insulators out there honestly that you can replace it with. On my race mini we have dampener that almost looks like dynamat, hell might be the same idea, the fiber stuff ford uses is all well and good, but better can be had for not too much hastle... just my .02
Yeah, I'm sure there are better insulators I'm just wondering how concerned should we be about this? Are the chances of fire the same as the F-150 cruise control problem? If so I'm going to rip that all out right now. I'd rather go a little while without and not worry about a fire than keep it till I have a replacement but run a risk of one.
jgc61sr2002
10-03-2006, 05:25 PM
IMO FMC will try to recall as few vehicles as possible. They use the term "certain".
RR|Suki
10-03-2006, 06:17 PM
Yeah, I'm sure there are better insulators I'm just wondering how concerned should we be about this? Are the chances of fire the same as the F-150 cruise control problem? If so I'm going to rip that all out right now. I'd rather go a little while without and not worry about a fire than keep it till I have a replacement but run a risk of one.
take a peice off and put a torch to it and see what happens, short of that I would go to the dealer or somethin
BTW, if you have custom exhaust, don't waste your time asking to be included in the recall.
You're probably right, Sarge, but in my experience, most dealers are so ignorant about these cars that they wouldn't know a stock exhaust from a custom one.
merc6
10-05-2006, 10:35 AM
There are better insulators out there honestly that you can replace it with. On my race mini we have dampener that almost looks like dynamat, hell might be the same idea, the fiber stuff ford uses is all well and good, but better can be had for not too much hastle... just my .02I used dynamat on my heatshields above my mufflers on my mazda and after 2 years it's still there. Sounds ike a fun job removing it tho. what was this insulation protecting?
Shora
10-05-2006, 11:39 AM
If anyone actually get a dealer to fix this please post it here. There is no way my dealer will do anything unless I can prove other Marauders got it fixed as well. Even then it's a long shot.
grampaws
10-05-2006, 01:47 PM
Here we go again list the fleet vehicles and screw the little guy..
That would be typical ford thinking!!
CRZYBIKER
10-05-2006, 03:23 PM
BTW, if you have custom exhaust, don't waste your time asking to be included in the recall.
If it is a "safety recall" they cannot legally refuse to perform it on any car no matter how modified it is. I process recalls for my company and work with with the federal safety admin quit a bit, and we have had to perform recalls on vehicles that were far from stock.
grampaws
10-06-2006, 12:41 PM
Safety recalls have to be done irregardless of age, warranty limitations
and condition of the vehicle. Nuisance recalls,leaks, oil consumption
bad paint it's the old shaftifizool! You will get a notice if applicable!!
ctrlraven
10-17-2006, 08:51 AM
Woo Hoo! Lucky Me!
So I've been smelling a weird odor for the past few days and didn't think anything of it. Well when I got back to my shop today from getting lunch, I poped the hood and sure enough I saw this and it was laying directly on top of the driver's side cat.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/exhaustshield1.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/exhaustshield2.jpg
Call Ford customer service and they said to call back in an hour or so because their computers are down and they want to be able to document this. So in the mean time I did a little riggin of my own so I can get the car home safely and park it.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a164/ctrlraven/exhaustshield3.jpg
Might be worth everyone checking theirs and calling in and complaining about it so we can get this taken care of or atleast try to.
Bradley G
10-17-2006, 05:19 PM
I noticed the insulation material sagging by the exhaust, but I have not smelled anything burning.
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