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Loco1234
11-03-2006, 01:43 PM
Sorry it has been so long since this thread till I touched on this topic again...
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=29021&highlight=oil+pan

I have some shoots of my stock pan below... ( I know its dirty.. it has sat out for almost 2 months in a garage...)
I am sending it out today to have a new one fab'd that will retain the needed dimension(s) (near crossmember) so it will fit...

I will keep eveyone posted on the progress of this mod...
The new pan will be increase capacity, have oil slosh baffles and traps, an improved crank scraper, a welded 1/2" oil return bung, etc...


here's the stocker... New pan pix to come...
htis first shot shows the ciritcal oil pick up area... The new pan will have a gate/baffle system here...
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-017.jpg

This shot show the Marauder stock crank Scraper... not much there.. but it works.. this design will be improved upon...
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-019.jpg

This shot shows the ever Critical crossmember interference location... This angle will be retained and not exceeded like the mutang pans seem to...
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-007.jpg

this is a shot of the 1/2" oil return that was tapped for my supercharger... the new pan will have a 1/2" oil retun bung welded in place.. the oil return tube is being sent with the pan to ensure thred matching etc...
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-003.jpg

..and finally and over all of the stock pan just to get a good idea what it looks like.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-001.jpg

If anyone has any suggestions please don't hesitate to comment... i can have the the gentlemen Fab'ing the new oil pan do about anything...

If this does turn out well and anyone else has an interest to get this done I would be happy to assist you in making this occur.
*(I am not a vendor nor do I wish to be)*:lol:
Thank you hope eveyone enjoys this thread. and the future additions to be added to it...

GreekGod
11-03-2006, 07:32 PM
Those are the first photos of our stock pan I've seen. I'm impressed with it.

bigmerc'03
11-04-2006, 04:10 PM
i would be interested when the work is done and a final price

Brutus
11-04-2006, 05:12 PM
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-003.jpg


This picture is exactly why I dont like tapping the oil pan in this manner.
+1 for an oil return bung.

Marauderjack
11-05-2006, 04:19 AM
I'm with Brutus.....Those metal filings look BAD!!!:argue:

Is that the only way to supply oil to the blower??:confused:

Marauderjack:eek:

MarauderMark
11-05-2006, 04:31 AM
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-003.jpg


This picture is exactly why I dont like tapping the oil pan in this manner.
+1 for an oil return bung.

Wow, thats not a nice pic.:nono: :D

Loco1234
11-06-2006, 07:08 AM
There is actually no metal fillings in the oil... (the pan is dirty from sitting in garage) the tapped and shreaded metal on the inside of the pan looks worse than it is.. but can get a def improvement with an ni 1/2" NPT bung there...This hole is not to supply oil but rather to return oil to the oil pan from the supercharger...

I will keep everyone posted on developments. The pan was shipped out last week so he should receive it this week.... can't wait to see the before an after shoots...

Loco1234
11-07-2006, 02:29 PM
ya for a stock pan it is very well setup.

It has a built in crank scrapper... although it is very small...

and has a sloosh preventer but the trap door design is far superior for road race etc...

Not so much for darg race though...

juno
11-08-2006, 07:07 AM
ya for a stock pan it is very well setup.

It has a built in crank scrapper... although it is very small...

and has a sloosh preventer but the trap door design is far superior for road race etc...

Not so much for darg race though...

I saved the piece I cut out of my Moroso 7 quart pan to modify it. That is another option. I will try to remember to take a pic. The pan already comes with the 7 quart capacity and a 1/2" bung.

Loco1234
12-12-2006, 10:34 AM
Hey everyone here is the update on that OIL PAN I spoke about....
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-144.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-145.jpg
As you can see the critical angle over the crossmember should not be an issuse.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-150.jpg
A really nice supercharger oil return line....
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-151.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-152.jpg
a couple shots of the internals of the oil pan without the pick cover bolted in place. This allows us to easily see the 4 oil control trap doors located at the bottom of the pan...
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-154.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-153.jpg

Loco1234
12-12-2006, 10:39 AM
CONTINUED!
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-161.jpg
Once again you can clearly see the clearance around the crossmember allowed for by this oil pan....
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-163.jpg
oil pan pick-up....
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-167.jpg
Oil Pan Internals with pick-up bolted in place....
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-168.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-169.jpg
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Loco4321/PICTURE-171.jpg

juno
12-12-2006, 10:41 AM
Verrrry nice!!!!!!

Loco1234
12-12-2006, 10:44 AM
Thank you....

magindat
12-12-2006, 10:53 AM
Thank you for sharing.

In the interest of more info:

What has the new pan done to your overall ground clearance? How much farther down does it hang?

This looks like a complete manual fabrication. What kind of money did it cost you?

Thanx
Rich

AstroVic
12-12-2006, 11:42 AM
Also, how much used oil will be "trapped" in the pan when you do an oil change? It looks nice, but I get the feeling there will be a few quarts trapped in the pan anytime you change the oil. Maybe I'm just not seeing something critical.

Looks awesome, though! It's obvious you put a LOT of work into that bad boy!

Loco1234
12-12-2006, 12:11 PM
I love to take credit for building the oil pan... but I didn't

I know a guy who used to work for AVIAD oil pans and now owns his own oil pan making business. I think he does some very nice work.

Price: I'll have to go look....:eek: nah wasn't that bad... but I do have to check final price.....

As far as oil being trapped during oil changes... well Im sure it will restrict some oil from easily rolling right out but it doesn't make a 100% seal in trap area...
some oil will always "leak" around or under trap doors but mostly (when filled) it will hwlp kep oil level optimum around the oil pickup.... this is important during high speed cornering etc... not so much drag racing.....
...but I run the Marauder on track such as Pocono's Tri-oval...

Zack
12-12-2006, 12:15 PM
This may be silly, but you might want to see what the temperature rating is of those locknuts before you bolt that beauty on.

Loco1234
12-12-2006, 12:39 PM
Nope its not silly I already thought of that...
..and Im not sure what the temperature rating is but....
This is the third custom pan I have gotten from him and all three had the same lock nuts....

thus far no issuses with any of them....
"knock on wood"

Power Surge
12-12-2006, 12:45 PM
Looks like an Armando pan.

Loco1234
12-12-2006, 12:50 PM
"Armando pan"

Awh Sal never met ya; but as usual you hit the nail on the head...
congrats....
I think he did a really nice job....

juno
12-12-2006, 01:26 PM
When I do my own oil changes, after everyting has drained, I sacrifice a new quart and dump it in with the drain plug still out, just to flush a little bit.

That looks to be the same size as the mustang oil pans and not much different then the stock depth. My mustang style still does not hang any lower then the tranny housing.

It does make it a little more challenging to get the tranny inspection plate and the TC bolts out though!

FordNut
12-12-2006, 02:41 PM
Looks really great. Make another hole in the baffle for the dipstick! I gotta pull my Moroso pan back off for that. Shoulda checked it at the machine shop before I picked up the motor.

GreekGod
12-12-2006, 02:47 PM
I don't know what type of pan gasket or bolts the Mod motor uses, but you might want to see about using studs and washer head nuts instead of bolts. Studs are nice to substitute for bolts, especially in aluminum, or wherever frequent removal, or alignment issues occur.

Power Surge
12-12-2006, 02:55 PM
"Armando pan"

Awh Sal never met ya; but as usual you hit the nail on the head...
congrats....
I think he did a really nice job....

:D :D :D

I have one of his pans on my 427 Cobra. As you may know, Aviaid was the original supplier for the Cobra pan.

ctrlraven
12-13-2006, 08:34 AM
Nice pan, hope your guy saved all his specs and stuff. I smell another mod not to far down the road.

Loco1234
12-13-2006, 09:03 AM
those are 2 very good points...

I will look to align oil dipstick before engine install.

I also plan on uses ARP studs due to the aluminium block, canton windage tray and oil pan.... It will make a need for much longer studs/bolts....