Almost 16 seconds?

[Raudermaster]

I was just browsing around online, and came across this link: http://www.exoticcarsite.com/0-60-quarter-mile-times.htm
Now, I noticed it says the Marauder will do the 1/4 mile in 15.4 seconds? That seems kinda high. I mean, the Crown Vic LX Sport does it in 16.2 with the SOHC 2v? Something doesn't seem right, is at all accurate? I thought our cars were capable of at least mid to high 14's bone stock.

[The Big Stu]

If you know what you are doing you should be able to get it a little closer to 15 flat, but i know nothing of 14.anything stock. Low 15's is where we start

[cruzer]

Check the time sheets--my best--14.8@96.8--stock with DRflash--15.1@94 bone stock---there are a lot better times--don't sell this 2 ton Panther short:banana2:

[StevenJ]

It all depends on weather and the driver. You can have the best driver but if it is hot and stick outside, your times will suck. On the other hand, if it is dry and cold, you'll run like a bat out of hell. It is all relative. What you run and one point in time at the track doesn't mean you'll do the same the next time you come. It is all related to condtion of the weather, the car, and the driver.

[MENINBLK]

The time posted there is also for the 03 Marauder.
The 04 Marauder is a few tenths quicker.

[cyclopsram]

They may have used the figures from when there were 5 football players, a full tank of gas and 5 golf bags and Kentucky Fried Chicken in the trunk...adds a few tenths to the time... RAM

[mpearce]

Don't forget...the difference between 15.2 and 16.2 might not look like much on paper. Take that to the drag strip, and run a 15.2 next to a CV that's running a full second + slower, and it'll all come into perspective.

-Mat

[SC Cheesehead]

I was just browsing around online, and came across this link: http://www.exoticcarsite.com/0-60-quarter-mile-times.htm
Now, I noticed it says the Marauder will do the 1/4 mile in 15.4 seconds? That seems kinda high. I mean, the Crown Vic LX Sport does it in 16.2 with the SOHC 2v? Something doesn't seem right, is at all accurate? I thought our cars were capable of at least mid to high 14's bone stock.

I ran mine for the first time at Gainsville and turned a 15.64 bone stock. The other normally aspirated guys running 4:10s, chipped and tuned were running down in the mid to low 14's, so the potential is definitely there.

BTW, add a blower or nitrous, and you're looking at a 4,200 lb car running in the 11's through closed exhaust, that'll open a few Ricer's eyes!

SCCH

[Breadfan]

The time posted there is also for the 03 Marauder.
The 04 Marauder is a few tenths quicker.

It is?? Just from tranny upgrades?

[Shora]

It is?? Just from tranny upgrades?

Nahh, they don't have the clock in the dash or map pockets thus the saved weight.










J/K:rolleyes:

[RoyLPita]

Nahh, they don't have the clock in the dash or map pockets thus the saved weight.










J/K:rolleyes:

Good one!!!!!

[Bluerauder]

The time posted there is also for the 03 Marauder.
The 04 Marauder is a few tenths quicker.
I don't think the difference between an '03 and an '04 in bone stock trim is that much. Mike Poore and I went head-to-head at Mason-Dixon about 2 years ago. Cars were very evenly matched. I took him off the line and he hung at my right rear quarter panel for the entire trip. He may have been pulling up ..... but certainly not "by a few tenths".

I believe the quickest bone stock MM was "the fat bastid" at around 14.80.

[Mike Poore]

Nahh, they don't have the clock in the dash or map pockets thus the saved weight.
J/K:rolleyes:

.......Or Charlie's cooler and lawn chairs in the trunk. :rofl:

[Breadfan]

Nahh, they don't have the clock in the dash or map pockets thus the saved weight.










J/K:rolleyes:

My '03 has neither. ;) 300B!

[jdando]

Nahh, they don't have the clock in the dash or map pockets thus the saved weight


Lets not forget the donut spare:help: Humm donuts.....



jeremy

[Smokie]

You just need to ask an old timer, the best bonestock timeslip for a MM. is 14.5 by TTA (Steve), we have many members that have ran high 14's bonestock including Carfixer who ran 14.9 with a brand new car right in front of my eyes.

Let me offer you an explanation of why most bonestock times are in the 15's, if you go to the track before the car has at least 5000 miles on the clock; the car is not broke in yet...it will get faster.

An experienced driver can shave anywhere between 0.1--0.5 seconds driving the exact same car an inexperienced driver drove. The range of times bonestock varies from the best 14.5 to the worse 16 seconds.

My 4 1/2 years of experience with this car and 100 + passes at the track with N/A and S/C MM. tell me that the CAR bonestock is a 15 second car, the driver and production variables make up the rest of the spread.:)

[duhtroll]

The 03 vs. 04 is about the same - certainly not a few tenths. Not even *A* tenth IMO.




.......Or Charlie's cooler and lawn chairs in the trunk. :rofl:

[gpfarrell]

You just need to ask an old timer, the best bonestock timeslip for a MM. is 14.5 by TTA (Steve), we have many members that have ran high 14's bonestock including Carfixer who ran 14.9 with a brand new car right in front of my eyes.

Let me offer you an explanation of why most bonestock times are in the 15's, if you go to the track before the car has at least 5000 miles on the clock; the car is not broke in yet...it will get faster.

An experienced driver can shave anywhere between 0.1--0.5 seconds driving the exact same car an inexperienced driver drove. The range of times bonestock varies from the best 14.5 to the worse 16 seconds.

My 4 1/2 years of experience with this car and 100 + passes at the track with N/A and S/C MM. tell me that the CAR bonestock is a 15 second car, the driver and production variables make up the rest of the spread.:)


I agree to a point. I think the stiff, ultra-low mileage cars will typically lag one that has loosened up a bit. You'll consistently see this in magazines where they do long-term tests and the same car runs quicker with 40,000 miles than it ran when it was new. I think the MM is more sensitive to this than most cars.

I think production tolerances must be considered as well. Some are better, some are less better. Clock enough of them and you'll find the outliers.

I'm not so sure about 0.1 - 0.5 sec difference based on the driver of our cars. If the cars were stick shifts, sure. If they'd smoke the tires for 100' stock, sure. But as Mercury made them, mash & go is all you need to know.

Unless you meant the weight of the driver... I'll bet that could be worth half a sec!!! :D

[ckadiddle]

I ran mine for the first time at Gainsville and turned a 15.64 bone stock. The other normally aspirated guys running 4:10s, chipped and tuned were running down in the mid to low 14's, so the potential is definitely there.

BTW, add a blower or nitrous, and you're looking at a 4,200 lb car running in the 11's through closed exhaust, that'll open a few Ricer's eyes!

SCCH
My best time at Gainesville was 15.13 at 95.45 mph. That was with Magnaflows, PHP airbox and Reinhart xcal2 tune and KDW2 tires. I had never drag raced before. Was never quite ready for those danged lights to start down the tree. :o It was quite a hoot to run with other Marauders.

[LILALLEYKATT]

I ran a 14.1 in Atlanta 2 weeks ago @ 35 degrees...Then in Gainesville it was 83-85 degrees and the absolute best I could muster was a 14.5...

[StevenJ]

I ran a 14.1 in Atlanta 2 weeks ago @ 35 degrees...Then in Gainesville it was 83-85 degrees and the absolute best I could muster was a 14.5...

Same here. A year ago at Moroso I ran 14.651 with 3.55s and stock tires. Now I got 4.10s and KDW2s on the rear and the best I could do at Gainsville was 14.652 which is practically the same time I got at Moroso in 60 degree weather. There are a lot of factors at work when it comes to drag racing. Temperature is certainly a huge factor.

[Smokie]

///I'm not so sure about 0.1 - 0.5 sec difference based on the driver of our cars. If the cars were stick shifts, sure. If they'd smoke the tires for 100' stock, sure. But as Mercury made them, mash & go is all you need to know.

Unless you meant the weight of the driver... I'll bet that could be worth half a sec!!! :D

I know, the 1/2 second margin may seem too much, but there are some folks that do a very poor job at launching the car, they may simply launch with right foot on brake at idle speed from a deep stage. If you load the T/C by using both feet from a shallow stage it makes a great difference in results....maybe not a 1/2 second.:dunno: :D

[Paul T. Casey]

I know, the 1/2 second margin may seem too much, but there are some folks that do a very poor job at launching the car, they may simply launch with right foot on brake at idle speed from a deep stage. If you load the T/C by using both feet from a shallow stage it makes a great difference in results....maybe not a 1/2 second.:dunno: :D

Smokie's right. Driver ability can mean a half second. The only way to learn it (launching the car) is repeated practice. Bring a pen and a pad of paper. Write down every variable. Start at maybe 1200 rpm, and work up in 100 rpm incriments until you get your best 60' time. Also, work with air pressure in your tires. The stock tires seem to like low 20's for psi. Also, as your engine temp. goes up, you will slow down. Seems to me, between the cold mark and the bottom of the warm mark is about the best. You want the oil warm, and the t-stat shut for optimal performance. Transmission heat is also a factor. I try to keep the car in neutral if it's running, i.e. when your lane is moving toward staging.

[gpfarrell]

Smokie's right. Driver ability can mean a half second. The only way to learn it (launching the car) is repeated practice.

"Launching" isn't how I'd describe getting a stock 4200 lb car with automatic tranny and little low end torque to move.

I took mine to the strip recently as a "before" comparison to the upcoming hoopercharger.

Frankly, it was pretty boring. I did lots of what you're describing. I could get the car to go 2/10s slower by hotlapping it, but that was really the only difference. As long as I let it cool off it ran so consistently it was, well, boring.

My car didn't care if loaded it up against the converter or just mashed it.

Now, if I had 4.10s, a loose converter, and lots of potential wheelspin, then I'm in complete agreement with everything you say.

But stock I think it's a mash & go.

You can do all that stuff to make it interesting, but it sure didn't make mine any faster.

[Merc-O-matic]

You just need to ask an old timer, the best bonestock timeslip for a MM. is 14.5 by TTA (Steve), we have many members that have ran high 14's bonestock including Carfixer who ran 14.9 with a brand new car right in front of my eyes.

Let me offer you an explanation of why most bonestock times are in the 15's, if you go to the track before the car has at least 5000 miles on the clock; the car is not broke in yet...it will get faster.

An experienced driver can shave anywhere between 0.1--0.5 seconds driving the exact same car an inexperienced driver drove. The range of times bonestock varies from the best 14.5 to the worse 16 seconds.

My 4 1/2 years of experience with this car and 100 + passes at the track with N/A and S/C MM. tell me that the CAR bonestock is a 15 second car, the driver and production variables make up the rest of the spread.:)

SMOKIE is "right on" in what he said!

Gotta Love It!:bandit:

[Badger]

14.6 Bone stock. 04.

[duhtroll]

Have to agree here. Stockers don't have the power to make a better driver worth anything at the 1/4.


"Launching" isn't how I'd describe getting a stock 4200 lb car with automatic tranny and little low end torque to move.

I took mine to the strip recently as a "before" comparison to the upcoming hoopercharger.

Frankly, it was pretty boring. I did lots of what you're describing. I could get the car to go 2/10s slower by hotlapping it, but that was really the only difference. As long as I let it cool off it ran so consistently it was, well, boring.

My car didn't care if loaded it up against the converter or just mashed it.

Now, if I had 4.10s, a loose converter, and lots of potential wheelspin, then I'm in complete agreement with everything you say.

But stock I think it's a mash & go.

You can do all that stuff to make it interesting, but it sure didn't make mine any faster.

[gpfarrell]

Have to agree here. Stockers don't have the power to make a better driver worth anything at the 1/4.

Thank you!

When I take my '85 5.0 5-speed to the strip I always feel like a dolt... street tires, 325 hp, lots & lots of torque, 3.55 gears, smoke'm for half a second too much and I'm running with the Cobalts! With that car a sharp driver can squeeze lots more out of it. I'm content to have fun with it.