Supercharger Honesty [Archive] - MercuryMarauder.net Forums

jabo731

11-20-2006, 03:55 PM

Like myself some have had their Marauders since the begining, and some have been supercharged for a while. I know this is hard for some to tell but I was hoping some on the site would open up with a little honesty on this question "Of the big three superchargers and their owners what are the negative issues or the things you don't like about your supercharger?" And really I'm not trying to start a fight or anything, we always see post praisng one kit or the other, just looking for some of the Cons...............

mercmatt

11-20-2006, 03:59 PM

sounds good. id like to see this

O's Fan Rich

11-20-2006, 04:14 PM

Sorry, I can't help you with this.

MERCMAN

11-20-2006, 04:32 PM

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/9/7/6/still_meet_****ers_01.jpg

We will be watching this thread. Don't EVEN think about stepping outside the "circle of trust":D

Marauderman

11-20-2006, 04:49 PM

I doubt many have any real "rathers" against their own install.....I don't....I'm quite fine with mine and can't say I find anything I don't like about it......BUT I will say that if I could get another MM , I would prolly get a different type power adder other than my current one only cause I know it well ---so why not try a different one since the others are just as powerful and fun --this we know from what we all have come to realize from reading about the capabilities of the power adders available for our MM....It would be more a choice of cost prolly more than type ....Tom

BAD MERC

11-20-2006, 05:04 PM

I would definitely say that the Supercharger I am buying is the goodest. There may be gooder ones and worser ones but it is all about personal taste. There's my 2 cents. Now you only need $5,999.98 to buy the goodest one.

jgc61sr2002

11-20-2006, 05:09 PM

IMO they are all good products. :D It's your preference.

jabo731

11-20-2006, 05:13 PM

IMO they are all good products. :D It's your preference.

We know this, but with all good there must be some bad, no?

MarauderTJA

11-20-2006, 05:19 PM

There are numerous threads you can research here on superchargers. Everyone has their own personal opinion on what is the best (goodest kenny:confused: ). Each type has it personality with power and usage for the street and track, just as we do with our cars;) .

Smokie

11-20-2006, 05:22 PM

My base 3.4 pulley rubs the liner, I need a smaller pulley...anyone have a littler pulley for sale???:D

MarauderTJA

11-20-2006, 05:25 PM

My base 3.4 pulley rubs the liner, I need a smaller pulley...anyone have a littler pulley for sale???:D

Hummm,,,,,,You know Javier what that will do for you:confused: Are you looking for a little more
:burn: ???

jabo731

11-20-2006, 05:30 PM

[QUOTE=MarauderTJA;444553]There are numerous threads you can research here on superchargers.
I think guys are getting uptight already, Like I said we have read the good for years, just wondering if some would own up to some of the dislikes in their kits..

Smokie

11-20-2006, 05:33 PM

Hummm,,,,,,You know Javier what that will do for you:confused: Are you looking for a little more
:burn: ???

Yeah, ruin my rear tires even faster.:D

RF Overlord

11-20-2006, 05:33 PM

I wish my Trilogy had the Vortech gear-whine at idle... :D

Smokie

11-20-2006, 05:36 PM

..I think guys are getting uptight already, Like I said we have read the good for years, just wondering if some would own up to some of the dislikes in their kits..

Answer: NOTHING.:D

Cobra25

11-20-2006, 05:41 PM

My base 3.4 pulley rubs the liner, I need a smaller pulley...anyone have a littler pulley for sale???:D Just what Mrs. Smokie needs , More Power ! :D

OneBADLsE

11-20-2006, 05:42 PM

I wish my Trilogy had the Vortech gear-whine at idle... :D

but thats a dead giveaway...You wanna make it fun =-)

MarauderTJA

11-20-2006, 05:59 PM

I wish my Trilogy had the Vortech gear-whine at idle... :D. It is a :whistle: Bob....not a whine a :whistle: and only at idle.:D

jdando

11-20-2006, 06:00 PM

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/3/1/0/2/wheredidmytreadgo.jpg

:help:
This is my third set of rears. The car has 22,222 miles on it.
The blower scares my kids and wifey.
It makes me spend money on driving schools.
My 3.4" pulley rubs the hood liner.
My gas mileage is 15 mpg.
The neighborhood boys keep asking when they can go for another "ride":burnout:

Have I shortened the life of my car, probably. Does it cost more to maintain, probably. I am more likely to get a ticket, probably.

If I had a choice would I do it again?

ABSOLUTELY:D

See my thread in the Trilogy forum if you need to know why.

jeremy

MarauderTJA

11-20-2006, 06:01 PM

Yeah, ruin my rear tires even faster.:D

Yeah but if you get widened rims and Nitto Dr's:rock:

MarauderTJA

11-20-2006, 06:03 PM

stevengerard

11-20-2006, 06:39 PM

In some ways I wish I got better gas milage, not a lot more but at least a bit, I did not expect it to go as low as the 11 - 12mpg I get. But that maybe partly because of the 3500 TC I have, which was put in before the blower but happens to work well with a vortec. Yet in the big picture who cares about gas milage when you have that much hp. I for one like the whine.

DEFYANT

11-20-2006, 09:26 PM

I hate the way my head hits the head rest when I take off sometimes.

Yeah, I hate that. :D

greggash

11-20-2006, 09:53 PM

As stated by others, it depends what you want to do with your car, daily driver, track only...etc...

Dislikes: Tires ripping loose from the pavement at 6000 rpm:lol:
Gettin squirrly just past a toll both...(lots of oil there usually)

Its a ll good, just depends on the type of drivability you are looking for.

Motorhead350

11-20-2006, 10:35 PM

I haven't had one on my Marauder yet, but I will say this... when I had another (supercharger) that operated through a tube, the tube would always become disconnected and I know of a case on here where someone had to weld those tubes shut because of this problem. Theres a real answer for ya.

Breadfan

11-20-2006, 10:38 PM

I love mine. Sometimes though I wish it had the "whistle" at idle like the Vortechs and Prochargers. Only sometimes though.

Car shows, for instance, whistle is cool.

At the street light, no whistle is cool, sleeper effect is greater. ;)

Then again when I get on it with the JLT setup, I hear some mega-mean whine!

So in the end I'm still just as happy with my setup, and like the other setups too. But it's a difference, a fundamental difference, between the Eaton roots and Vortech/Procharger centrifugal blowers - the idle whistle.

I'd imagine a flip of the coin if I had a centrifugal blower, I'd be saying "I love the whistle at carshows and the like, but ya know, sometimes at stoplights I wish it was more of a sleeper!"

Mike M

11-20-2006, 10:40 PM

I am really pissed I didn't do it sooner.

Motorhead350

11-20-2006, 10:44 PM

HA! I was 2 weeks away from affording one and I had to buy a new engine. Now I have to start saving all over. Your not the only one mad.

teamrope

11-20-2006, 11:06 PM

I only have 1 minor complaint with the fit kit. Gas mileage. That is going to be common with ALL superchargers because of the larger fuel injectors.

The only other thing I can see as a con is clearance. My intake tubes cross under the header panel which gives me clearance issues at curbs, but you get used to that real quick.

The pros to the Fit kit are Price and IMHO it is quieter than the other kits. The Vortec seems Louder at idle and the Trilogy is louder when you are in the boost.

I have yet to see anyone with a supercharger of any flavor say they wish they hadn't got it.

Black_Noise

11-20-2006, 11:32 PM

does anyone think that thier supercharger impreeds the full driving experience?

example: take a close road track, would it be more fun driving it on a 600cc crotch rocket or a 1000cc crotch rocket?

you could use the full throttle/ RPM range on a 600, and a 1000 you would have to worry about wheelies or spining the tires (sorry thats the best example of what im talking about)

Black_Noise

11-20-2006, 11:33 PM

hey, jdando, my backs are looking close to that

RCSignals

11-21-2006, 01:55 AM

My base 3.4 pulley rubs the liner, I need a smaller pulley...anyone have a littler pulley for sale???:D

Well Javier that is a major Con. Those liners are rare, and hard to replace.
Are you sure that pulley is supposed to rub? Maybe Customer Service will send you a smaller one :)

MarauderMark

11-21-2006, 03:29 AM

I think i am going to get a Trilogy so my Vortech can force feed it.:burn:

Marauderman

11-21-2006, 05:09 AM

I hate the way my head hits the head rest when I take off sometimes.

Yeah, I hate that. :D

Actually, now that you mentioned it Charlie, my wife hates it as well--she seems to have a plastic clip holding her hair back when riding in the MM and always ask me..." can't you take off smoother than that....?.." head throw back hitting head restraint.......Now I ask you---can anyone wiith quick shift points and upgraded power---want to do that??? :down: :lol: I keep telling her, remember to wear the proper "head gear".........right Charlie---Yeah I hate that too!:banana:

Haggis

11-21-2006, 05:44 AM

Not being able to hook up on street tires. ;)

Bluerauder

11-21-2006, 05:47 AM

Honestly, I don't have a Supercharger. :D I just looked ..... Nope, none there. :o

Master

11-21-2006, 06:39 AM

Quick question: Why would anyone say they are getting worse mileage because of larger injectors? Unless you are under boost, you should still be running mid 13:1. Less duty cycle on larger injectors at this condition, but still the same amount of fuel required. Driven normally, bigger injectors or not, if you have the proper air/fuel ratio then the consumption should be the same with or without the supercharger. If you are burning more fuel when not on the boost, then I'd think you'll need to get a new tune for the setup.

duhtroll

11-21-2006, 06:45 AM

I'm confused.

What is this "not under boost" of which you speak? I thought it was impossible to drive in such a manner after a SC is installed.

:D

Quick question: Why would anyone say they are getting worse mileage because of larger injectors? Unless you are under boost, you should still be running mid 13:1. Less duty cycle on larger injectors at this condition, but still the same amount of fuel required. Driven normally, bigger injectors or not, if you have the proper air/fuel ratio then the consumption should be the same with or without the supercharger. If you are burning more fuel when not on the boost, then I'd think you'll need to get a new tune for the setup.

Haggis

11-21-2006, 06:53 AM

I'm confused.

What is this "not under boost" of which you speak? I thought it was impossible to drive in such a manner after a SC is installed.

:D

Someone else can explain it better, but most of the time I am in vacuum and only in boost when I get on it. Pedal to the metal!!!

DEFYANT

11-21-2006, 07:26 AM

Someone else can explain it better, but most of the time I am in vacuum and only in boost when I get on it. Pedal to the metal!!!

I once made it through a whole tank of gas with out getting into boost. Yup, got 22-23 MPG that one time.

Hated that too.:P

duhtroll

11-21-2006, 07:49 AM

That was kinda my point. How can you NOT drive in boost when you have it?

Sacrelige!!

Someone else can explain it better, but most of the time I am in vacuum and only in boost when I get on it. Pedal to the metal!!!

sailsmen

11-21-2006, 07:58 AM

There are 2 things I do not like about mine, going sideways on the 1-2 shift and speeding tickets.;)

Power Surge

11-21-2006, 08:22 AM

I only have 1 minor complaint with the fit kit. Gas mileage. That is going to be common with ALL superchargers because of the larger fuel injectors.

Sorry, gotta dissagree with that one. While things like high stall converters, higher gear ratios and such will have a small affect on fuel mileage, having larger injectors will not affect fuel mileage if the tuning is good. This is a common misconception among the masses. I run either 55s or 60s in every car that needs an injector upgrade (even if that car doesn't need that much at that point, they won't have to buy injectors again if they up the power later on). As long as the car is tuned properly, it should get the same fuel mileage as stock, aside from mechanical things that affect mileage (converters, gears, your foot in the throttle more, etc).

I run 60s in MadMax06 and I got 19 mpg driving from Long Island to Maryland and back this past weekend. It's all in the tuning.

Mrsteamrope

11-21-2006, 08:27 AM

Sorry, gotta dissagree with that one. While things like high stall converters, higher gear ratios and such will have a small affect on fuel mileage, having larger injectors will not affect fuel mileage if the tuning is good. This is a common misconception among the masses. I run either 55s or 60s in every car that needs an injector upgrade (even if that car doesn't need that much at that point, they won't have to buy injectors again if they up the power later on). As long as the car is tuned properly, it should get the same fuel mileage as stock, aside from mechanical things that affect mileage (converters, gears, your foot in the throttle more, etc).

I run 60s in MadMax06 and I got 19 mpg driving from Long Island to Maryland and back this past weekend. It's all in the tuning.

Maybe it's a lack of ability to resist hitting the go pedal every once in a while. :)

teamrope

11-21-2006, 08:34 AM

Sorry, gotta dissagree with that one. While things like high stall converters, higher gear ratios and such will have a small affect on fuel mileage, having larger injectors will not affect fuel mileage if the tuning is good. This is a common misconception among the masses. I run either 55s or 60s in every car that needs an injector upgrade (even if that car doesn't need that much at that point, they won't have to buy injectors again if they up the power later on). As long as the car is tuned properly, it should get the same fuel mileage as stock, aside from mechanical things that affect mileage (converters, gears, your foot in the throttle more, etc).

I run 60s in MadMax06 and I got 19 mpg driving from Long Island to Maryland and back this past weekend. It's all in the tuning.

I haven't had a chance to take her on a road trip yet with the S/C, but I have noticed a drop in MPG driving local. The Mrs might be onto something. You gotta get into the boost every once in a while. :burn:

Power Surge

11-21-2006, 08:35 AM

Maybe it's a lack of ability to resist hitting the go pedal every once in a while. :)

Heh, that's why I wrote: it should get the same fuel mileage as stock, aside from mechanical things that affect mileage (converters, gears, your foot in the throttle more, etc).

Haggis

11-21-2006, 08:41 AM

That was kinda my point. How can you NOT drive in boost when you have it?

Sacrelige!!

You got me on that one, flew right over my head. I think I'm catching Lisa's brain farts.

Bigdogjim

11-21-2006, 08:51 AM

To answer the question as asked even though I am NOT S/C as of now, every time you buy anthing there is always the questions.
Could I have got it cheaper?
Do I really need it?
Now what am I going to do with it?
What else do I need to make it work better?
What will the wife say when she finds out?
So you get the point? It is a question with no answer in my book.

But to try and answer the question as asked............

#1 answer should be "Why did I not do this sooner!":baaa:

At least that is what I hear when I speak with S/C owners:rolleyes:

Master

11-21-2006, 12:10 PM

Another fine example of why I love this site. Great thoughts, good sense of humour, and no one takes anything too seriously aside from good rides and good friends. Thanks!

Haggis

11-21-2006, 12:25 PM

Another fine example of why I love this site. Great thoughts, good sense of humour, and no one takes anything too seriously aside from good rides and good friends. Thanks!

Yoy know what they say; 'If you can't take a joke, take a toke.'
:bandit: :beatnik: :rasta:

MarauderMark

11-21-2006, 06:15 PM

Yoy know what they say; 'If you can't take a joke, take a toke.'
:bandit: :beatnik: :rasta:

:hmmm:...:beatnik: ...:D

snowbird

11-22-2006, 04:36 AM

Things i don’t like hhhmmm Well there’s one thing and it’s weird: When I get on the boost, every vehicles in front of me gets their backing up lights inoperative and I have to be careful not to hit them as they all start backing up in my direction. Kind of annoying. Even more amazing is when I lift the throttle, everything gets back to normal.

Once I tried to trick that phenomenon by a few floor it and lift it in a row but no, couldn’t find the cause of this. Go figure.

Master

11-22-2006, 05:02 AM

AstroVic

11-22-2006, 05:16 AM

Seems like this would be the appropriate forum for this question: What is a FIT/ProCharger? Who makes/distributes this? Is it different from the DR Supercharger? Is it the same thing? Obviously, I know what a TRilogy is since they seem to have the highest profile of the bunch.

Look at the vendors section of the forum. You'll see "Forced Induction Technologies." They sell the "F.I.T. kit" and use a Procharger brand supercharger as the basis of their kit - just like Trilogy uses an Eaton brand supercharger and Reinhart uses a Vortech brand supercharger.

I think F.I.T.'s website is: www.superchargemyride.com (http://www.superchargemyride.com)

Look at the banners above. They're a supporting vendor, so you should see a banner from them, too.