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Mike Poore
01-08-2007, 07:43 AM
I just got a suspicious Email, supposedly from PayPal wanting to know if I made a $600+ purchase. I did not respond to the Email, but contacted their security center and did a cut & paste of the Email. The message looked legitimate in every way.
Also had a fradulant charge on my Visa card, for a Western Union payment to East Bumfork, MI, that one was ~ $600 they called to verify, then sent me a new card. Be careful. :mad:
Bluerauder
01-08-2007, 08:13 AM
I just got a suspicious Email, supposedly from PayPal wanting to know if I made a $600+ purchase. I did not respond to the Email, but contacted their security center and did a cut & paste of the Email. The message looked legitimate in every way.
Also had a fradulant charge on my Visa card, for a Western Union payment to East Bumfork, MI, that one was ~ $600 they called to verify, then sent me a new card. Be careful. :mad:
A couple months ago, someone opened a PayPal account in my wife's name. She does not use PayPal. In fact, she doesn't even use the computer.
She received a letter from GE Money Bank -- PayPal Services that included her "membership card" and a notice that someone may have fraudulently made a purchase. When we called the "Fraud Hotline" number in the letter, we were told that phone number was incorrect and were bounced around to several different numbers. Each one seemed to be "phishing" for more personal data which we would not provide except for the member account number. I suspect it all was some kind of hoax to have us mail in the payment.
Sure enough, in about 7 days, she received a bill for $950.00 for a purchase in California. We contested the bill in writing. Notified all of the credit agencies to attach a fraud alert on her credit reports and filed an identity theft report with our local police for follow-up investigation. So far, so good ... but it does make you very uncomfortable that someone is able to do this.
ID thiefs are about the lowest form of life on the planet. :mad2: And it seems to be getting worse every day with people looking for free and easy money --- from someone else. :nono: Bastages oughta burn. :fire:
Mike Poore
01-08-2007, 09:34 AM
In some cases, we have no one but ourselvs to blame, for not protecting our's and our friend's email addresses. How many emails do you get with what looks like a telephone address book of recipient's email addresses published for all the world to see? There is no reason to ever publish a third party's email address when copying a message to multiple recipients. BCC should always be used when the message is sent to multiple recipients, IMHO.
I'm in the process of changing my email address as we speak, and will be careful about who get's it in the future. How many of us have our email addresses published in our profile section on this and other forum's; for anyone to see? :alone:
WE just had our store CC TURN UP IN THE PHILLIPINES! They must have made a bogus card as they used it at a Starbucks along with many other places. I have no idea how they got the number.
DefyantExWife
01-08-2007, 12:45 PM
Any and All emails from Paypal (assuming you have an account) will come to you addressing you by your first and last names. Bogus paypal emails will come addressing you as "Paypal member" or something like that.
Mike Poore
01-08-2007, 12:58 PM
Any and All emails from Paypal (assuming you have an account) will come to you addressing you by your first and last names. Bogus paypal emails will come addressing you as "Paypal member" or something like that.
Thanks Lisa. I'm positive it was a scam, although very clever. Here's what they sent: See the part about "cancel Transaction" Then the place for you to enter your information? The bastages.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=600 align=center border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD>http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/logo/email_logo.gif (https://www.paypal.com/us)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%" background=http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/bg_clk.gif>http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=600 align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=600 align=center border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD width="100%">Dear member,
This email confirms that you have paid orders@dell.com $699.99 USD using PayPal.
This credit card transaction will appear on your bill as "PAYPAL *DELL INC".
<HR class=dotted ="">
Payment Details
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=justify border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=3>Purchased From:http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gifDell.Inc</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" align=justify border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#e2e0e0><TD class=longTableValue width="25%">Item #</TD><TD class=longTableValue width="45%">Item Title</TD><TD align=middle width="10%">Quantity</TD><TD class=longTableValue align=middle width="10%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="10%">$669.95 USD</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right width="10%">$669.95 USD</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="100%" align=justify border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD align=right width="85%">Shipping & Handling via USPS First Class Mail to 154XX
(includes any seller handling fees)
</TD><TD align=right>$19.16 USD</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD align=right width="85%">Shipping Insurance (optional):</TD><TD align=right>--</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD align=right width="85%">Sales Tax (6.000% inPA) : </TD><TD align=right>$10.88 USD</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=right colSpan=2 height=10>http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/greyline.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>Total:</TD><TD align=right width="14%">$699.99 USD</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=justify border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=3>Note:http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gifThank you!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<HR class=dotted ="">
Shipping Information
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=400 align=justify border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD class=smallEmphasis align=right width="30%">Shipping Info:</TD><TD width="5%">http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif</TD><TD width="65%">Wayne E Bakewell
16 elm st
Brownsville, PA 15417
United States
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=smallEmphasis align=right width=110>Address Status:</TD><TD>http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif</TD><TD>Confirmed </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><HR class=dotted ="">
If you have questions about the shipping and tracking of your purchased item or service, please contact the seller orders@dell.com.
<HR class=dotted ="">
Do you confirm this transaction?
If this transaction was not made by you please immediately take the following steps:
Login to your account by clicking on the link below
Provide requested information to ensure you are the owner of the account
Find this transaction in HISTORY and click 'Cancel Transaction'<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=center bgColor=#cccc33 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=8 align=center bgColor=#ffffcc border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=large>http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif CANCEL TRANSACTION! (http://www.seet-environnement.com/~tourelec/radik.php)http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Thank you for using PayPal!
The PayPal Team
Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account and choose the Help link located in the top right corner of any PayPal page.
PayPal Email ID PP843
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O's Fan Rich
01-08-2007, 01:07 PM
So on that one Mike they are trying to get your info by getting you to cancel a bogus transaction. They rile you up by saying "Hey I never ordered this!" Then you use their bogus login in screen and BAM! they have your info.
The fargin' sneaky bastages!
Mike Poore
01-08-2007, 01:17 PM
So on that one Mike they are trying to get your info ...The fargin' sneaky bastages!
Holy cat crap, Batman; I Googled the guy's name and this came back:
http://spoken-for.org/archives/2006/12/07/1741/ :censor:
Breadfan
01-08-2007, 01:19 PM
All, the ONE BEST WAY to see if it's a scam is to check the hyperlinks. Scroll over that "CANCEL TRANSACTION!" Link above and see what address shows up in the bottom of your browser. (Don't click it, just roll over it)
It leads to here: http://www.seet-environnement.com/~tourelec/radik.php
(I wouldn't click that link, BTW, and to be safe I removed it as a hyperlink, just text now)
NOT a paypal site.
Many times PayPal phishing emails will have links that go to an ip address with a /paypal.com/ subfolder to trick you.
Such a link might look like this:
http://192.168.1.100/paypal.com/confirmaccount.asp
Note you see paypal.com, but the true server you are going to is the root folder, or IP address there. (That's a private range, so it won't really go anywhere unless ofcourse you are running a paypal fake site on your local LAN!)
So, most of these emails are scams, check the links very carefully before clicking.
O's Fan Rich
01-08-2007, 02:32 PM
Always log into PayPal and Ebay directly. Any messages they sent you will be waiting for you there in your messages bin.
Log in "securely" on their sites only!
DefyantExWife
01-08-2007, 02:39 PM
Forward these bogus emails, or any emails you SUSPECT may be bogus on either Ebay or Paypal to these respective email addresses:
just forward the suspicious emails to:
spoof@ebay.com
spoof@paypal.com
They will let you know, usually within an hour, whether the email was bogus or not. Of all the emails i've forwarded them over the last couple of years, none have been legit.
RCSignals
01-08-2007, 04:09 PM
Many people give out personal info far too freely, such as their Drivers license number, SSN, telephone number, address.
I see it all the time when buying something at a store, the clerk will ask for this information, and people just recite it without thinking. None of these places need any of that info. If they refuse to sell you something because you won't give it, it is their loss.
RCSignals
01-08-2007, 04:20 PM
Forward these bogus emails, or any emails you SUSPECT may be bogus on either Ebay or Paypal to these respective email addresses:
just forward the suspicious emails to:
spoof@ebay.com
spoof@paypal.com
They will let you know, usually within an hour, whether the email was bogus or not. Of all the emails i've forwarded them over the last couple of years, none have been legit.
/\ That's exactly right. If you send notice any other way they will ignore it, so make note of those email addresses!
Thanks Lisa. I'm positive it was a scam, although very clever. Here's what they sent: See the part about "cancel Transaction" Then the place for you to enter your information? The bastages.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=600 align=center border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD>http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/logo/email_logo.gif (https://www.paypal.com/us)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%" background=http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/bg_clk.gif>http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=600 align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=600 align=center border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD width="100%">Dear member,
This email confirms that you have paid orders@dell.com $699.99 USD using PayPal.
This credit card transaction will appear on your bill as "PAYPAL *DELL INC".
<HR class=dotted ="">
Payment Details
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=justify border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=3>Purchased From:http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gifDell.Inc</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" align=justify border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#e2e0e0><TD class=longTableValue width="25%">Item #</TD><TD class=longTableValue width="45%">Item Title</TD><TD align=middle width="10%">Quantity</TD><TD class=longTableValue align=middle width="10%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="10%">$669.95 USD</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right width="10%">$669.95 USD</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="100%" align=justify border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD align=right width="85%">Shipping & Handling via USPS First Class Mail to 154XX
(includes any seller handling fees)
</TD><TD align=right>$19.16 USD</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD align=right width="85%">Shipping Insurance (optional):</TD><TD align=right>--</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD align=right width="85%">Sales Tax (6.000% inPA) : </TD><TD align=right>$10.88 USD</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=right colSpan=2 height=10>http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/greyline.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>Total:</TD><TD align=right width="14%">$699.99 USD</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=justify border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=3>Note:http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gifThank you!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<HR class=dotted ="">
Shipping Information
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=400 align=justify border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD class=smallEmphasis align=right width="30%">Shipping Info:</TD><TD width="5%">http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif</TD><TD width="65%">Wayne E Bakewell
16 elm st
Brownsville, PA 15417
United States
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=smallEmphasis align=right width=110>Address Status:</TD><TD>http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif</TD><TD>Confirmed </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><HR class=dotted ="">
If you have questions about the shipping and tracking of your purchased item or service, please contact the seller orders@dell.com.
<HR class=dotted ="">
Do you confirm this transaction?
If this transaction was not made by you please immediately take the following steps:
Login to your account by clicking on the link below
Provide requested information to ensure you are the owner of the account
Find this transaction in HISTORY and click 'Cancel Transaction'<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=center bgColor=#cccc33 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=8 align=center bgColor=#ffffcc border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=large>http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif CANCEL TRANSACTION! (http://www.seet-environnement.com/~tourelec/radik.php)http://images.paypal.com/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Thank you for using PayPal!
The PayPal Team
Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account and choose the Help link located in the top right corner of any PayPal page.
PayPal Email ID PP843
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>That's the same exact email that I received, same name, same order, and amount. Did you buy a ticket to MM raffle last month?
Ken
Marauderjack
01-11-2007, 02:29 PM
I just got this....supposedly from PayPal??:confused:
It was addressed to someone other than me but somehow got to me.....I responded.....BITE ME!!!!! ;)
Let's see ifI get an acknowlegement!!??:depress:
Warning Notification
Dear Paypal Account Holder,
It has come to our attention that your PayPalr account information needs to be updated as part of our continuing commitment to protect your account and to reduce the instance of fraud on our website. If you could please take 5-10 minutes out of your online experience and update your personal records you will not run into any future problems with the online service.
However, failure to update your records will result in account suspension. Please update your records within 24 hours.
Once you have updated your account records, your PayPalr account activity will not be interrupted and will continue as normal.
Click here to update your PayPal account information
Copyright © 1999-2006 PayPal. All rights reserved.
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High-C
01-11-2007, 03:08 PM
My checking acct was hit for almost $1000 two months ago... I used my debit card at a japanese restaurant and 2 days later I had charges made in Japan. My bank told me that it was not a keyed transaction but an actual card swipe. They burned my card info into a fake... My bank asked if I had been to Japan... I had not. They said there are new pocket machines that can swipe and contain your card info... They then download it and e-mail the files overseas to be reprinted and burned onto a fake card... It was a pain in the ass.
Marauderjack
01-11-2007, 03:27 PM
There are obvious grammar errors in the email I got but I just caught a spelling error....."PayPalr".....What simple a$$ would try to pull this crap??:shake:
I'd like to get my hands on the "Knot-Head" that is sending this crapola out!!:stupid:
Marauderjack:bandit:
RCSignals
01-11-2007, 03:49 PM
Marauderjack, if you still have the email, also forward it to spoof@paypal.com
They do actively pursue these criminals
Marauderjack
01-11-2007, 04:20 PM
Done!!!:beer:
Mike Poore
01-11-2007, 04:32 PM
Let's all make a PayPal donation and call in an air strike. :flamer:
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