Group Buy of VT Shortblocks?

[Zack]

This is just a feeler, but could be very beneficial to a lot of members.

I have not contacted VT about this yet, but Im sure they would work with us, and they were a vendor here some time ago.

So post up if you are interested in me contacting them for some $$$$ saving deals on really well built engines.

[merc]

This is just a feeler, but could be very beneficial to a lot of members.

I have not contacted VT about this yet, but Im sure they would work with us, and they were a vendor here some time ago.

So post up if you are interested in me contacting them for some $$$$ saving deals on really well built engines.


Why not add MMR to your list.

[ctrlraven]

I'd be interested in def. hearing more about this since mine just clicked over 70k miles and having a spare engine/part would make replacement very easy and have minimal downtown if something were to happen to my engine.

[FordNut]

Why not add MMR to your list.

I would advise against dealing with MMR based on my experiences.

[duhtroll]

I am interested in looking into this also, but didn't someone here have a really bad experience with VT stuff? Failure and no support or something?

[KillJoy]

I have heard of MORE THAN A FEW bad experiences w/ MMR.

KillJoy

[snowbird]

Could be interesting with VT. But i'm just wandering if we won't fall into the "hood design ditch" as everybody will want a different design ?

[DEFYANT]

I am interested in looking into this also, but didn't someone here have a really bad experience with VT stuff? Failure and no support or something?


I remember this also - just not the details.

What about the vendors we have now, perhaps they'd be interested.

If and when my day for a new motor comes, my plan is to get Lidio to put a replacement together. It would take one hell of a salesman to change my mind.

[Raudermaster]

At least we're not dealing with MSX :D . Eh, mine just turned 23k lol. Although, I would be interested in a nice more powerful N/A motor. I doubt I would be able to afford one right now.

[maraudernkc]

I bought my motor from MMR and had no problems. I know of two other people from this board who have bought from MMR and no problems. When I was calling looking for motors, it was a joke how other companies would say, oh your looking at there motors and you would say what and they would say, we don't like to talk about other companies. They want your business and were just trying to put a doubt in your mind about the other companies. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that MMR has had some bad motors go out the door or not met a deadline that was promised but so has most of the other comapnies out there.

[juno]

I may be interested depending on the deal/choices.

[Raudermaster]

Zack maybe you could call them and get some prices of what they would offer to us?

[Zack]

Ill get in touch with them shortly.

[FordNut]

I spoke to Scott yesterday, they have a very long lead time due to backlog.

[Zack]

I just e-mailed them.
If they decide to help us out, it will give us and them plenty of time to get beefed up in time for SSHS7

[TooManyFords]

I bought my motor from MMR and had no problems. I know of two other people from this board who have bought from MMR and no problems. When I was calling looking for motors, it was a joke how other companies would say, oh your looking at there motors and you would say what and they would say, we don't like to talk about other companies. They want your business and were just trying to put a doubt in your mind about the other companies. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that MMR has had some bad motors go out the door or not met a deadline that was promised but so has most of the other comapnies out there.

I agree. My MMR has been trouble-free and was exactly as promised. I would use them again.

John

[Glenn]

Zack:

Count me in. I am interested in a forged short block for my MM. Is it AL or FE? Can you give any further description on the details of a proposed short block?

Glenn

[Zack]

Hey everyone, Scott from VT e-mailed me back with interest in helping us out.

He wanted to make it clear that there is a core for an aluminum block.
I strongly recommend us doing a group buy for IRON blocks only.
They are cheaper, stronger and easier to machine perfectly.
But the biggest benefit is the fact you will have a stock motor in perfect working order to fall back on, sell, use, trade whatever.

Please chime in again if you are interested, but know they are backed up a while. These guys take their time and dont rush anything out the door.

[duhtroll]

Interested for now to see prices.

[GreekGod]

I'm only about 50 miles from VT's Lansing (MI) location. They are on my list of places to visit. If I ever get to visit them, I will take photos of their shop and interview a representative.

[Marauderjack]

Pricing for one block=???

Pricing for 10=???

Pricing for 20=???

If there seems to be significant savings on larger quantities the we just need to prioritize a shipping order for those who need the quickly?? As for me I would be in no particular rush.....should I participate!!??:cool:

Marauderjack:burnout:

[RoyLPita]

How much more does the steel block weigh over aluminum?

[Zack]

How much more does the steel block weigh over aluminum?

All of my research says 80 lbs. A supercharger kit weighs that.

As for pricing, hold tight, Im trying to see if there is INTEREST.
So if you are INTERESTED, chime in.

[jimlam56]

I'm interested.

[fastblackmerc]

I'm interested also.

[O's Fan Rich]

Of course I'm interested.... I'm living on borrowed time with my motor and after August who knows? wondering if this will be "cookie cutter" GB where we all need to agree on the same build though.

[GreekGod]

...A cookie cut short block might be a good idea: an iron block, H-beam rods, and 10/1 forged pistons, with apropos crankshaft, all selected by the machinst/builder.

The experienced builder would know the hp capacity of the best matched iron or steel crank.

I thought Roush might have them "in stock", but their website shows no Modular engines!:

http://www.roushperformance.com/

[Raudermaster]

I'd like to see pricing.

[Zack]

Ive sent the e-mail with everyones questions and concerns.
Now we wait.

I did suggest we build one engine many times, not a different engine.

The plan is an iron block, Cobra crank, main studs, H-Beam forged rods, Diamond pistons.
10:1 compression.

[Zack]

I wanted to clarify something:
Im not in this to make any $$$. I wont even handle any money if this goes through.
Thanks!

[merc]

Ive sent the e-mail with everyones questions and concerns.
Now we wait.

I did suggest we build one engine many times, not a different engine.

The plan is an iron block, Cobra crank, main studs, H-Beam forged rods, Diamond pistons.
10:1 compression.

That works for me.

[sailsmen]

I am interested depending on price.

I know I am on borrowed time.

[Raudermaster]

Zack with what you stated, how much HP/TQ will that engine be able to withhold?

[Zack]

Zack with what you stated, how much HP/TQ will that engine be able to withhold?

1000 crank horsepower safely.

[Raudermaster]

Oh, that's very nice.

[shami02]

Hey Zack,

I would also be interested.. depending in the price. I just dropped 6500 into a blower but it would be nice to have a block ready to go... Please keep on VT... and post up the prices.

BTW I bought a set you your cintrol arms used they are great!

[juno]

10:1 may require custom pistons. We might be better off with 5 cc dish at about 9.5:1. Why not check into two prices, a regular block with a 5 cc and a stroker block with 5cc.?

[Zack]

10:1 may require custom pistons. We might be better off with 5 cc dish at about 9.5:1. Why not check into two prices, a regular block with a 5 cc and a stroker block with 5cc.?

Strokers would need -9cc to maintain 10:1

[juno]

True, an 11 or 12 would be closer to our stock compression.

[jimlam56]

I'm just looking for a dependable block that's good for 500rwhp with the power adder of my choice.
Key word is dependable. I'm not sure my stock block is, even with only 32K...

[fastblackmerc]

I'm just looking for a dependable block that's good for 500rwhp with the power adder of my choice.
Key word is dependable. I'm not sure my stock block is, even with only 32K...
+1. I agree with you Jim. Just want something that is dependable. When I'm out of warranty @ 70K miles or 7 years I'd like to have a blown motor ready to swap out with the stock motor.

[Zack]

Scott @ VT contacted me a few days back, stating he will put all the details together and get back with me soon.

[sicilianmarquis]

what exactly aret he specs of the VT motors?

[RCSignals]

Scott @ VT contacted me a few days back, stating he will put all the details together and get back with me soon.

i'll keep watching the thread

[Drewstang]

I know I'm living on borrowed time. I'm interested.

[Zack]

I know I'm living on borrowed time. I'm interested.

Im not sure thats^^^ true.

Your IAT Sensor is in the right spot :lol:

[O's Fan Rich]

Im not sure thats^^^ true.

Your IAT Sensor is in the right spot :lol:

:lol::lol::lol:

Zack... that's funny.... maybe we could fire that up again and get another sale on Trilogy's started!!!:banana2:

btw.... has your wife approved all this wheeling and dealing?:D

[Zack]

:lol::lol::lol:

Zack... that's funny.... maybe we could fire that up again and get another sale on Trilogy's started!!!:banana2:

btw.... has your wife approved all this wheeling and dealing?:D

She says as long as I dont try and sell her, its all good. :D

[DEFYANT]

Can they machine (grind) off the knock sensor bungs for the Trilogy users?

[TooManyFords]

Can they machine (grind) off the knock sensor bungs for the Trilogy users?

I'm sure they could, but why pay them to do something you can do...

:confused:

Cheers

John

[Rider90]

These any good?

http://www.promodularperformance.com/1996-2005.htm

[DEFYANT]

I'm sure they could, but why pay them to do something you can do...

:confused:

Cheers

John


Thought I'd ask and see what they had to say.

Also, are the blocks new or remanufactured?

[TooManyFords]

These any good?

http://www.promodularperformance.com/1996-2005.htm

Not sure but is looks like they just cut and pasted the Modular Mustang Racing order pages and called it theirs. If they can't be original on their web site, I wouldn't buy a motor from them!

John

[GreekGod]

Not sure but is looks like they just cut and pasted the Modular Mustang Racing order pages and called it theirs. If they can't be original on their web site, I wouldn't buy a motor from them!

John

Sho 'nuf:

http://www.modularmustangracing.com/

[DEFYANT]

Not sure but is looks like they just cut and pasted the Modular Mustang Racing order pages and called it theirs. If they can't be original on their web site, I wouldn't buy a motor from them!

John

+1

Thats fncked up! :shake:

[Rider90]

I am interested in looking into this also, but didn't someone here have a really bad experience with VT stuff? Failure and no support or something?
Does anyone else remember this? I remember a problem with VT but cannot remember the specifics. I think it's worth finding out if some of you are going to spend some serious money with them.

[Rider90]

It's starting to come back to me...Didn't someone here buy the VT Marauder and the engine blew? VT would not fix anything, but there was more to the story. Ringing anyone's bells?

[Zack]

The blocks are brand new.

In my honest opinion, when this web site started some 5 years ago, VT was on board at that time. I dont think they were the company then that they are now. With time, research and learning from mistakes or not, VT is an awesome company today and should not raise any red flags.

To each his own though

[sailsmen]

It's starting to come back to me...Didn't someone here buy the VT Marauder and the engine blew? VT would not fix anything, but there was more to the story. Ringing anyone's bells?

Why not ask the MM owner? RR/Suki.

I seem to remember he bought it from a used car lot and VT said it had been abused.

[DEFYANT]

Search other boards also.

I've peaked around SVTP.com. Generally customers are happy. There were a couple of threads detailing some customers problems, but that is to be expected.

[Raudermaster]

LOL funny he mentions that around the SVTP boards. Charlie did you see/read any of those god awful stories about MSX? I feel bad for all the guys who dumped $3500+ on engines from that and got engines soaked with oil/used crappy pistons!

[RCSignals]

The blocks are brand new.

In my honest opinion, when this web site started some 5 years ago, VT was on board at that time. I dont think they were the company then that they are now. With time, research and learning from mistakes or not, VT is an awesome company today and should not raise any red flags.

To each his own though

I remember them as a vendor here. Maybe they will be again

[Rider90]

I remember them as a vendor here. Maybe they will be again
Agreed.

Why do a GB on shortblocks from a non-vendor? I hear Lidio builds engines, and is already a vendor, so why not stop there first? Does DR build engines?

Just looking for ideas. Maybe this VT thing will work out..but I smell kick-backs and corruption all over this Zack :D

[MM2004]

Agreed.

Why do a GB on shortblocks from a non-vendor? I hear Lidio builds engines, and is already a vendor, so why not stop there first? Does DR build engines?

Just looking for ideas. Maybe this VT thing will work out..but I smell kick-backs and corruption all over this Zack :D

Kick-backs? Corruption?

Where are you getting these odors from?

Mike.

[Zack]

And im a vendor. Which reminds me that Mary will be sending the bill soon...........

Im not getting any kickbacks, as stated in one of the first posts.

Just trying to help.

[keithb123]

I'm interested. Just wanna know pricing.

[RCSignals]

And im a vendor. Which reminds me that Mary will be sending the bill soon...........

Im not getting any kickbacks, as stated in one of the first posts.

Just trying to help.

no problem, they can send the kickbacks to me :)

[Glenn]

Zack:

Many of us are still interested in this GB. What pricing and engine specs are we looking at.

Glenn

[stevengerard]

i'm interested as well.