Mustang GT/Cobra Parts Compatibility

[studio460]

Mustang Parts Compatibility:

Seeing the vast amount of available aftermarket parts for the Mustang market, it would be great to know of some of the parts are interchangeable with our Marauders. Noting that some of our components are taken from the Mustang GT/Cobra family (I thought the brakes were, at least), I was wondering if anyone knew of the following compatibility possibilities:

1. Do spark plug wire sets for 4.6 SOHC/DOHC Mustang engines fit Marauders? Are the wire loom brackets the same (placement, fitting, etc.)?

2. Are Crown Vic/Grand Marquis spark plug wire sets the same as Marauder? Are the wire looms the same (placement, fitting, etc.)?

3. I once heard we have the essentially the same brakes as a GT (this way, we could buy any of the many aftermarket rotors available for 'Stangs). Anyone know for sure? Other 'Stang brake components compatible?

If anyone here were knowledgable enough to do so, wouldn't it be great if there were a list of compatible/interchangeable parts from other Ford family products to our Marauders?

[RF Overlord]

I can answer questions 1 and 2...the Marauder doesn't HAVE spark-plug wires...it's COP (Coil-On-Plug)...

[EbonyMarauder03]

I work at a Ford dealer. As far as the catalogs go the brakes are not interchangeable. The MM and GT/Cobra have their own setups.

Also Overlord is correct about spark plug wires. The MM and most other Ford modular motors use a "coil over" ignition. No more coil and wires, the coils is held down with a bolt and is right on top of the spark plug. They are about $60 and there would be 8 of them. They hold up a lot longer than the old wire set up.

[studio460]

Oh. Thanks, guys.

[SergntMac]

At the Trilogy Open House, Steve Babcock mentioned that everything "undercarriage" is from the Town Car Limo. How this includes the brake systems I can't imagine. Perhaps a cross check of part numbers with the Limo stuff is in order?

Before y'all jump on me, I know that LM has issued new part numbers for the Marauder...But, a bit of forensic "looking back" may be fruitful, eh?

[LincMercLover]

I was kinda curious about the throttle body myself... I'm thinking about getting a twin 62MM TB by BBK.

[jgc61sr2002]

Originally posted by EbonyMarauder03
I work at a Ford dealer. As far as the catalogs go the brakes are not interchangeable. The MM and GT/Cobra have their own setups.

Also Overlord is correct about spark plug wires. The MM and most other Ford modular motors use a "coil over" ignition. No more coil and wires, the coils is held down with a bolt and is right on top of the spark plug. They are about $60 and there would be 8 of them. They hold up a lot longer than the old wire set up. At $60.00 a pop they better hold up longer. The old type of wires were less than $50 a set.

[Warpath]

Originally posted by SergntMac
At the Trilogy Open House, Steve Babcock mentioned that everything "undercarriage" is from the Town Car Limo. How this includes the brake systems I can't imagine. Perhaps a cross check of part numbers with the Limo stuff is in order?

Before y'all jump on me, I know that LM has issued new part numbers for the Marauder...But, a bit of forensic "looking back" may be fruitful, eh?

MM gets unique springs and shocks. Control arms are the same as the basic GM and TC. I don't know about the brakes.

[SergntMac]

Originally posted by Warpath
MM gets unique springs and shocks. Control arms are the same as the basic GM and TC. I don't know about the brakes.

Help me with this, Warpath, please?

What do you mean by "unique." Do you mean a custom design? Newly designed? Something never before heard of, or, seen around the likes of FMC? Do you mean to say "brand new stuff?"

Now that I've met Steve Babcock, and heard his accounting of the "how/when/where/why" his Marauder came to be sitting in my driveway, I'm rather confident that Mr. Babcock delivered an accurate history lesson.

Surely, most (maybe all) of the parts on the MM are "the same as basic" something from FMC, because I knew a year ago that this car came from the parts bin of FMC.

I don't get your "unique" here, care to expand on this more? Please? I'd like to know your source for this 411, in the event I need to change my understanding of the '03 MM.

[LincMercLover]

From what I know, the MM has "unique" shocks buy Tokito (or however the hell you spell it), but the springs are simply PI springs (ie, limo springs). Air suspension in the rear is the typical air suspension on any GM/TC, just with a different sensor position. As far as the chassis, all Pather bodies get this chassis. Sway bars I'm sure are via PI (ie, limo). Am I missing anything?

[SergntMac]

Originally posted by LincMercLover
From what I know, the MM has "unique" shocks buy Tokito (or however the hell you spell it), but the springs are simply PI springs (ie, limo springs). Air suspension in the rear is the typical air suspension on any GM/TC, just with a different sensor position. As far as the chassis, all Pather bodies get this chassis. Sway bars I'm sure are via PI (ie, limo). Am I missing anything?

Ohh...Okay. I hear ya, LML. Maybe this guy wasn't Steve Babcock? BRB!

Trust me on this...I am the last guy anyone wants to lie to...

I'll collect all this and go back, maybe go through somebody's pockets...Check ID's...See what's up?

Maybe it wasn't Babcock on the floor in front of us. Could have been an imposter...I don't know.

I gave him my keys and he came back delighted, but I cannot say for sure that he was Steve Babcock.

I would like to know myself...BRB...

[MI2QWK4U]

The brakes are from the Police Interceptor.

[Warpath]

Originally posted by SergntMac
Help me with this, Warpath, please?

What do you mean by "unique." Do you mean a custom design? Newly designed? Something never before heard of, or, seen around the likes of FMC? Do you mean to say "brand new stuff?"

Now that I've met Steve Babcock, and heard his accounting of the "how/when/where/why" his Marauder came to be sitting in my driveway, I'm rather confident that Mr. Babcock delivered an accurate history lesson.

Surely, most (maybe all) of the parts on the MM are "the same as basic" something from FMC, because I knew a year ago that this car came from the parts bin of FMC.

I don't get your "unique" here, care to expand on this more? Please? I'd like to know your source for this 411, in the event I need to change my understanding of the '03 MM.

By unique, I mean different from any other Panther (GM, CV, or TC). The MM sits about 1 inch lower in the front than any other Panther. Its lowered using shorter springs. The shocks are tuned for these springs. The rear air springs are the same as other Panthers. I didn't think about that when I mentioned the springs were different. The limo and police cars get heavy duty control arms. The police arms are different from the limo. MMs just get the regular control arms. The rear jounce bumper on the MM is different that other Panthers too. As far as the source, I know people who know these things.

[Warpath]

BTW, that may actually have been Steve Babcock there. The program managers don't necessarily know all of the intimate details. Or, maybe the MM started with limo parts. But, later changed because it wasn't necessary and he didn't know.

[SergntMac]

Thanks for your explanation Warpath (and others), I understand much better now.

I'm wondering how much of the 1 inch lower you mention, actually came from shorter springs? Would not the tire configuration (both front and rear), as well as factory rear air suspension settings contribute to the total 1 inch lower at the nose too?

I'm going to stick with what I was told by the guy who ran the program. It was Babcock, and as PM, he should know, regardless of what subordinates did or did not tell him.

The upside here, is that I am thankful LM kept the parts hunt inside FMC. In 20 years (maybe 10?) knowing where to look for replacement parts will be important, yes? Nice to know I can pick at a '92 CV/LX with handling package and get an almost maybe fit. Good Lord, there are so many PIs in the bone yards, parts may never be a problem!

[Warpath]

Good point about the tires. I am assuming they are about the same diameter as other GM tires. I don't know exactly off hand how much lower the MM is in front. But, I think I heard about an inch. The rear ride height hasn't changed neglecting any tire diameter differences.

I don't think I would want to use a PI bone yard part since they are pretty abused and used up. JMO

All I can say is that I speak the truth. I have nothing to gain from intentionally misleading everyone. Its good that you take it with a grain of salt though.

BTW, what is "BRB?"