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My04isnice
08-21-2007, 02:02 PM
I was just wondering if the suspension would raise the car high enough to ride around on 24 in. rims, and when i turn the car off will it lower too far down and make the car rest on my rims

Please help!

Hadamustang1
08-21-2007, 02:06 PM
:popcorn:. I wuld think you need a lift kit.

offroadkarter
08-21-2007, 02:11 PM
Dont bother, first off IMO it looks stupid on a muscle sedan. 2ndly, its very unsafe. Alot of CV's/GM's/MM's that have been crashed have 22" or 24" rims and they lose control. Plus i dont think rubber band tires are really suited for everyday driving, hit a NY or philly pothole and bye bye bling bling.

20's would still look good and be safe and all, as long as the offset is correct.

Just my 2 cents, the people on car domain with the 24's on there marauders voted me down because they didn't like that my car looked better :mad:

rvaldez1
08-21-2007, 02:13 PM
I was just wondering if the suspension would raise the car high enough to ride around on 24 in. rims, and when i turn the car off will it lower too far down and make the car rest on my rims

Please help!

Check my photo gallery, I HAD 22s on my crown vic with 35 series tires, no rub, no suspension mods. The ride really is not as good, they stick out a little and run a chance of rubbing. If you are all about cruising and looking good, by all means go for it. If you are into spirited driving, take it from me, go 20s or smaller.

OneBADLsE
08-21-2007, 03:02 PM
One thing....


STOP MOLESTING THESE CARS!!!!!!


Ok. I'm done ;)

BAD MERC
08-21-2007, 03:17 PM
Knock that **** off!!! Next thing "Brougham" decals?

not5-0
08-21-2007, 03:31 PM
:soap: I have had custom rims on every vehicle I have owned since I was 16 and in every case it significantly enhanced the looks and in some cases the performance of the car. But hands down the Marauder rims cannot be improved upon and in a limited edition vehicle it adds to resale value in many cases. Save the money you would waste, I mean spend on deuce dubs and invest it in suspension, braking or engine mods. I'm done.

jgc61sr2002
08-21-2007, 03:34 PM
What he said. ^^^^^

Bluerauder
08-21-2007, 04:31 PM
Why?? :rolleyes:

magindat
08-21-2007, 04:33 PM
:soap: I have had custom rims on every vehicle I have owned since I was 16 and in every case it significantly enhanced the looks and in some cases the performance of the car. But hands down the Marauder rims cannot be improved upon and in a limited edition vehicle it adds to resale value in many cases. Save the money you would waste, I mean spend on deuce dubs and invest it in suspension, braking or engine mods. I'm done.

Ahh, I beg to differ. I appreciate your point, but I do think I improved my looks and handling with my staggered 18F and 20R setup.

magindat
08-21-2007, 04:38 PM
Technically, you could run a 20 up front and a 22 out back with no rubbing, provided you got the proper offsets. Getting those offsets is a NIGHTMARE to find (ask me how I know) unless you have the rims custom made.

Further, The 30 series tires would be like riding on rocks (Flintstone style).

I did not go under 45 series for comfort's sake. As such, the largest rim was 20 out back. Keeping a nice wide tire up front led me to an 18 to keep close to the stock outside diameters for handling, braking, and safety.

My search took a long time and a LOT of math. It was worth it and you can tell by how well they suit the car.

Go ahead and throw some 22's or 24's on. Just don't come crying to us when you wreck or otherwise screw up the car.

You've been advised....
http://www.magindat.net/index_files/image003.jpg

MarauderSM
08-21-2007, 05:54 PM
Me personally I would not go bigger than 20's. Specifically Bullet wheels. If you do go with 22's, 24's know it would be VERY wise to upgrade the brakes, sway bars, and control arms for the car. Cars were not built to handle the stress that a very large wheel can dish out. Decreased performance, harsher ride, increased stopping distance, decreased fuel economy, and cost(tires and rim repairs)

fastblackmerc
08-21-2007, 06:36 PM
Why?? :rolleyes:

Exactly...... Why?????

sabtaj1
08-21-2007, 06:38 PM
22's will fit with no rubbing (depending on the offset). I would prefer 20x8.5 in the front and 20x10 in the rear. Depending on the style of rim I think it would look great with the staggard stance. Just my .02 cents

pantheroc
08-22-2007, 09:03 AM
why stop at 24, raise suspension and go 30! ;) I'll need some spare parts down the road.

SC Cheesehead
08-22-2007, 09:08 AM
:laugh::lol::laugh:



why stop at 24, raise suspension and go 30! ;) I'll need some spare parts down the road.

Regular modern-day Connestoga wagon!

rvaldez1
08-22-2007, 09:25 AM
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/1/8/8/Crownvic22s.jpg Quality is not that good, but here it is. Like I said it looks awesome, but you sacrifice too much driveability.

larryo340
08-22-2007, 09:38 AM
Like I've said before in my opinion it's not a Marauder without the OEM wheels !!
It just loses something, looking more like a dressed up Grand Marquis.

Motorhead350
08-22-2007, 09:49 AM
I still think the only wheels that look good on the car are the stock ones... however I do like what BigDogJim and Big House have. Look up their cars.

Aren Jay
08-22-2007, 12:06 PM
You are in luck they make them for 18" rims on with 33, 35 & 37 inch sizes.

Add a lift kit and we will laugh at you.
picture is of.
35x12.50R16 Nitto Mud Grapplers.
http://images.jpmagazine.com/techarticles/wheels/154_0605_01_z+growl_and_bite+n itto_mud_grappler_full.jpg

superford3
08-22-2007, 12:45 PM
personally i would stay at 20 inch wheels and no bigger,dont make a donk out of a marauder ,pleassssssssssssseeeeee

ChiTownMaraud3r
08-22-2007, 01:15 PM
If you absolutley need to ride on more chrome, get 22s, but like other members here have posted, this will put a greater strain on your transmission, brakes, suspension..etc. Once you realize what a rare and great car you were able to acquire, and grow out of the "big rim" craze you will find out it will be too late, the car will squeak and ride like **** afterwards even on the stock wheels. Just too many headaches later on.

Get a cheap crown vic P71 to dress up, and spend the extra cash on performance parts for the Marauder. :)

MarauderSM
08-22-2007, 02:07 PM
22's are not worth it, but since you have the money get and all around air bag suspension on the car. You can change the stance at the push of a button. LOW or HIGH.

fastblackmerc
08-22-2007, 02:21 PM
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/1/8/8/Crownvic22s.jpg Quality is not that good, but here it is. Like I said it looks awesome, but you sacrifice too much driveability.

I have HotWheel cars with those rims!!!!!

1of327
08-22-2007, 02:47 PM
I was just wondering if the suspension would raise the car high enough to ride around on 24 in. rims, and when i turn the car off will it lower too far down and make the car rest on my rims

Please help!


I don't think that the travel on the shock will go that far. You will also have to have the speedo recalibrated once you throw off the factory wheel equation.
To each his own. I just think it would be a bit much.

Stranger in the Black Sedan
08-22-2007, 03:10 PM
It was worth it and you can tell by how well they suit the car.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Keeping, mouth, shut! (Bigs and littles on a massively nose heavy car, hmmm...!)

not5-0
08-22-2007, 04:30 PM
Ahh, I beg to differ. I appreciate your point, but I do think I improved my looks and handling with my staggered 18F and 20R setup.Rich,
You're car is definetely a looker, but the difference is that your car was well thought out and it shows in the end product. My point is slapping custom 22s or 24s just does not suit our cars and based on the cars that I have seen with that size it cheapens the look of the car. Our stock wheels and overall stance play a big part in what defines the Marauder.

Grifter
08-22-2007, 07:35 PM
[Flame Suit on]

I have 20's on my car. Black Bullitts. 20x8.5 fronts 20x10 rears.
I think they look good. The back is lowered some, the front needs to be lowered too IMO.. I will have to get the Naake setup for the front so i can get it set to the perfect height.

Here is the only pic I have of it right now.

[/Flame Suit off]

larryo340
08-22-2007, 07:52 PM
[Flame Suit on]

I have 20's on my car. Black Bullitts. 20x8.5 fronts 20x10 rears.
I think they look good. The back is lowered some, the front needs to be lowered too IMO.. I will have to get the Naake setup for the front so i can get it set to the perfect height.

Here is the only pic I have of it right now.

[/Flame Suit off]
ok, I take it back.........:up:The bullit wheels are the only other wheel that looks decent on a Marauder. At least they are FORD.

Stranger in the Black Sedan
08-22-2007, 08:59 PM
I gotta get the pics of the 22s on a grand marquis in my parking lot here. The car is in good shape but it just looks so ghetto fab with the wheels on it. I could probably find it but it's too dark out.

magindat
08-23-2007, 05:38 AM
Rich,
You're car is definetely a looker, but the difference is that your car was well thought out and it shows in the end product. My point is slapping custom 22s or 24s just does not suit our cars and based on the cars that I have seen with that size it cheapens the look of the car. Our stock wheels and overall stance play a big part in what defines the Marauder.


[Flame Suit on]

I have 20's on my car. Black Bullitts. 20x8.5 fronts 20x10 rears.
I think they look good. The back is lowered some, the front needs to be lowered too IMO.. I will have to get the Naake setup for the front so i can get it set to the perfect height.

Here is the only pic I have of it right now.

[/Flame Suit off]

I think we all agree that the 'stance' defines the Marauder and I really think that's the point. I did it with 'big and littles' as said above. I have seen a number of FOOSE and CODDINGTON mobiles with similar setup and I like it. Further, nose heavy cars with this setup?! Bud, I'll meet you at the auto-x and make you eat those words!!!! I didn't just slap on rims, it's balanced and suspended with the best of 'em.

Grifter, after all the questions you asked about buying rims, I'm proud of ya. They look nice and again keep that MARAUDER stance. You done good. No flame from me!!!

The big giant rims kill the stance and with it, the handling. I say go for a split setup with 20's and 22's both with 35 series. This would be all looks, though. The ride will suck and be very harsh (better not date any big-boobied women) and the car will have almost no lateral grip. It'll want to fishtail out of turns if the road is anything but absolutely race-track prefect.

At the end of the day, 'custom' to me means modified with taste, research and meaning. Rice means, just slap it on. Don't be rice, eat rice!!!

as always, I'll happily help the tasteful and reasonable size rims and tires to fit!!!

High-C
08-23-2007, 06:33 AM
Here is the only pic I have of it right now.

Grifter,

I was recently toying with the idea of buying a Black CV Sport that I saw for sale. I wanted to get it to relieve the MM of traveling duties this winter. The first thing that I did was price the Black 20" Bullits... Your car looks sweet. They look good on your Marauder and now I might have to buy that CV just to rock the 20's too.:cool:

Master
08-23-2007, 06:47 AM
I like the Bullet rims, but would point out one thing. Because the offset appears to be different than on our cars (I'm basing this on the one picture available), the wheels are out further than normal. This appears to be putting the outer edge of the rim right under the fender lip. I can see that this is compensated for by using a narrower tire than a 10" rim would allow. It looks like maybe a 295 at most back there with a pretty low profile - 35, say? (am I close?), and as such, it appears that the sidewall is angled in toward the car. All of this allows for tire clearance, but (and only in my opinion) makes the tires look a bit odd on the rims. I'd want to have my 305s back there to look right, but then I'd say there would be clearance issues.
So, yes, the Bullets look good, but still don't give the stance of the standard set-up. I love the factory wheels, by the way, as they look oh, so classy.

magindat
08-23-2007, 07:05 AM
I like the Bullet rims, but would point out one thing. Because the offset appears to be different than on our cars (I'm basing this on the one picture available), the wheels are out further than normal. This appears to be putting the outer edge of the rim right under the fender lip. I can see that this is compensated for by using a narrower tire than a 10" rim would allow. It looks like maybe a 295 at most back there with a pretty low profile - 35, say? (am I close?), and as such, it appears that the sidewall is angled in toward the car. All of this allows for tire clearance, but (and only in my opinion) makes the tires look a bit odd on the rims. I'd want to have my 305s back there to look right, but then I'd say there would be clearance issues.
So, yes, the Bullets look good, but still don't give the stance of the standard set-up. I love the factory wheels, by the way, as they look oh, so classy.

It's all about offset, baby. a 10" wheel will fit and tuck on the right offset. 10" is the max. A 305 will fit on that same 10" rim and tuck, if the offset is perfect.I believe that offset would be in the 75mm neighborhood. Good luck finding that in our bolt pattern. I HAVE found it for 'vettes, though.

The Big Stu
08-23-2007, 07:26 AM
Can you feel the love yet? Welcome to the site.

Grifter
08-23-2007, 09:37 AM
Magindat is right. Its all about the offset. I spent many hours setting up Excel spreadsheets finding the right offset for each rim width, and tire size that would fit said rim width so that I would retain the stock front and rear tire heights.
+36 on an 8.5" rim for the front, and +45 on a 10" for the rear. 255/35's up front, 275/40 rear

The rears tuck in just fine, probably could stuff a 295 or maybe a 305 in there w/o rubbing. the fronts are about flush with the fender. I wish I could have found a front rim with more offset, but that was as close as I could find.

My04isnice
08-23-2007, 10:12 AM
thanks for the feedback... i guess i will jus stick with the Factory rims.... and maybe just do some audio upgrades and then engine upgrades.

magindat
08-23-2007, 10:23 AM
I spent many hours...

And it shows!!!!

rvaldez1
08-23-2007, 10:30 AM
And it shows!!!!

Ditto!!!!!