Worlds fastest Marauder

[Bradley G]

Yup, The quickest Marauder is also , The Fastest.
Don Walsh JR. just pedaled Jerry Barnes' Trilogy #1 , to an all new ET10.3@131 in Commerce GA.
This info was directly stolen from the Motor City Marauders site.
Post from Rick in Miami.

[marauderboi]

That is super fast congrats guys:D

[JMan]

Phew! That's sweet! Can't wait for the full reports . . .

J

[Marauderjack]

The 9's ain't far away!!!!!:bows:

CONGRATULATIONS MR. BARNES!!!!!:banana2::banana2:

Marauderjack:beer:

[Illss]

Congrats on the time

[Master]

Well, I'm sure if it was a 'Raduer, someone would have protested that, too. Racing has rules, and you better get used to it.

[Bubba Hyde]

Yup, The quickest Marauder is also , The Fastest.
Don Walsh JR. just pedaled Jerry Barnes' Trilogy #1 , to an all new ET10.3@131 in Commerce GA.
This info was directly stolen from the Motor City Marauders site.
Post from Rick in Miami.

Had the pleasure of seeing this for myself this afternoon. Not only did he pull the 10.3 in the qualifier, but he backed it up with three more runs within 3 tenths of that time.

Folks, if you've never seen something as big and heavy as a Marauder leave that quick, you have no idea what you're missing.

Congrats to Jerry and the crew for a job well done!:beer:

[chader]

Well, I'm sure if it was a 'Raduer, someone would have protested that, too. Racing has rules, and you better get used to it.
what are you saying??

[Blackened300a]

How long before MartyO revamps his car and goes for the record?

[Bluerauder]

How long before MartyO revamps his car and goes for the record?
Congrats Jerry !!! :congrats: I was just ogling the 10.473 on the video ... and now he's at 10.3. :2thumbs:

It's amazing the lengths that these guys will go for a case of diet coke. ;)

[2ndMDRebel]

what are you saying??


The Wimpala crew is all upset their guy that ran faster was disqualified because he didn't hit the scales after the run to verify the car's weight. That was a rules violation that the Trilogy team pointed out and now they are being villified for it.

[Smokie]

The Wimpala crew is all upset their guy that ran faster was disqualified because he didn't hit the scales after the run to verify the car's weight. That was a rules violation that the Trilogy team pointed out and now they are being villified for it.

I think that what is important here is this: Is the Impala in question so light that it needed weights to qualify to run at this event. Yes or No?

If the Impala needed to use weights to qualify for the minimum 4000 lbs with driver then of course it makes sense to insist car is weighed after final run.

What was the difference in ET between the two cars on the final run??? Usually the accepted ratio of weight to 0.1 of a second is 100 lbs.

Was the Impala weighed at all during the entire length of this competition??? Did the Impala run much faster on the last run then all it's prior runs???

These are questions that are worth asking and getting an answer to in my opinion, the Impala guys are mostly great guys no different than us.

[Raudermaster]

Wow that's awesome. What did Tom end up pulling off??

[Bluerauder]

Wow that's awesome. What did Tom end up pulling off??
From the SSHS7 thread \/\/\/\/\/. I added the bold emphasis.

My best run was another 11.3 et, but I had to get out of it twice due to what I believe to be too low tire pressure on the slicks. Got real hairy two times during that run, once after the 1/8 mile when I let off and once about 200 feet before the traps where I coasted through. Felt like would have been a 10.7 run but didn't happen. But it will sooner or later. That's drag racing.

Going back to the pits I heard some rattlling and broke a tensioner:mad:. Zack, KIllJoy, John Nero and a couple of other Maraduer brethern helped out. Thanks guys:up:. Once I got it started the car was only running on what seemed 6 cylinders. Oil pressure was good, all plugs were checked and good. I think something in the valve train went. Last run of the day. On the trailer, heading home tomorrow morning at 7 AM. Will check it out this week. Hopefully nothing major.:depress: Even with the problem the only Marauder faster than mine was Jerry Barnes. And he really kicked AZZ

The event was awesome. Met a lot of new Marauder members and had a great time, in spite of my misfortune. Hopefully it will happen again next year. I will be there. This is an event no one should miss if you love drag racing.

[Blackened300a]

I thought this thread was about a 10.4 run by Trilogy 1? What did the Impala guys have to do with it??

[Smokie]

I thought this thread was about a 10.4 run by Trilogy 1? What did the Impala guys have to do with it??

I could be wrong since I have no official source of information, if what I have read is accurate 10.4 is not even close to being Jerry's best run...I await official word.:D:banana2::banana:

[chader]

I could be wrong since I have no official source of information, if what I have read is accurate 10.4 is not even close to being Jerry's best run...I await official word.:D:banana2::banana:
his best run was a 10.3x but it was a qualifing run and was b4 I got there..this was just to show a run









1

[RF Overlord]

Congratulations, Jerry!

I know you've put a LOT of sweat and tears (and money :eek: ) into Trilogy #1 and it's gratifying to see it pay off. Way to represent!

[atlss96]

I think that what is important here is this: Is the Impala in question so light that it needed weights to qualify to run at this event. Yes or No?

If the Impala needed to use weights to qualify for the minimum 4000 lbs with driver then of course it makes sense to insist car is weighed after final run.

What was the difference in ET between the two cars on the final run??? Usually the accepted ratio of weight to 0.1 of a second is 100 lbs.

Was the Impala weighed at all during the entire length of this competition??? Did the Impala run much faster on the last run then all it's prior runs???

These are questions that are worth asking and getting an answer to in my opinion, the Impala guys are mostly great guys no different than us.

Hi all,
I am one of the Gassit members that was involved in the decision to disqualify Johns Impala for the scale violation.

To answer Smokies questions, Johns Impala weighs in at 4400lbs, and ALWAYS has. The time difference??? John on the run in question ran 9.34 @ 131 (yes... he was on the brakes in the traps) to the Trilogy cars 10.47. John had previously run a 9.80 pass, and because he had not yet obtained a competition liscense to jump into the sub 10 second range, was warned by the track to slow it down. He did 1/8th mile runs pretty much the rest of the day until the final round (and I will point out ALL of his non-bye runs were sub 10.5 lifting and braking).

I wish to point out here, the SSHS events have always been more of gentlemen's type events. There are no points, no prize money, etc. It's run for fun, and to hang out with enthusiasts of like minds. Yes a rule was broken, we acknowleged it, and dealt with it appropriatly... but in my mind it was kind of trite on Trilogys part to protest given the MoV. Knowing they have attended these events before, I am also sure they know the sprit and intent of the event. This is not, and never has been, an "official" type of event

To the Trilogy team, congrats on a quick run, and enjoy the trophy.

To all the Marauders, and Blue Oval enthusiasts that came to the event THANK YOU !! It is the people moreso than the cars that make SSHS what it is, and I hope all enjoyed the event. This was Gassit's last year to do it, and I have been involved with all 5 of the others our club has done. It has been a joy to see our heavyweight community grow, and meet some really great people . :beer:

Scott Barnes, Gassit #3

[kilr95ss]

Whatever the end result, it was a great day with lots of fast 4 doors. GASSIT has said this is the last time they will run the SSHS (heard that one before), so now it's up to you Marauder Guys to keep this going. With the large turn out from the Merc group, it should not be a problem, first time in 7 events the Mercs out numbered the B-bodys.

Hope to see everyone next year at SSHS8?

[BISHOPSS95]

Hope to see everyone next year at SSHS8?

Yes you will!!!

Congrats to Jerry on a hard won trophy. Go Marauders!

We had about 40 Marauders / ovals racing!!! You oval guys out numbered the Impala / Bbods by about a third!

I have been the announcer for all 6 Atlanta sshs races and this one was by far the best. I was at the point of begging drivers into the run-all-day lanes. We raced our collective asses off. And now we have Mopar to deal with. cool

Both John and Jerry should be commended for the sportsmanship shown. Anyone that was there understands what happened. Thems the rules and I stand by them. Had the shoe been on the other foot I would expect the same and so should Yall.

Those being said, expect to see SSHS8 and 8's next year.

BTW any 9's will require an NHRA license next year to be clear.

Jim Bishop

(SSHS8 where it's cool to be Phat)

:banana2:

[merc]

Yes you will!!!

Congrats to Jerry on a hard won trophy. Go Marauders!

We had about 40 Marauders / ovals racing!!! You oval guys out numbered the Impala / Bbods by about a third!

I have been the announcer for all 6 Atlanta sshs races and this one was by far the best. I was at the point of begging drivers into the run-all-day lanes. We raced our collective asses off. And now we have Mopar to deal with. cool

Both John and Jerry should be commended for the sportsmanship shown. Anyone that was there understands what happened. Thems the rules and I stand by them. Had the shoe been on the other foot I would expect the same and so should Yall.

Those being said, expect to see SSHS8 and 8's next year.

BTW any 9's will require an NHRA license next year to be clear.

Jim Bishop

(SSHS8 where it's cool to be Phat)

:banana2:

Tell the members of Gassit to visit my site for pictures of the event.
http://web.mac.com/mwhite26/Site/SSHS7.html

[SC Cheesehead]

Hope to see everyone next year at SSHS8?

Count on it! This was the first SSHS I've been able to attend, and I loved it! Wouldn't miss the next one for anything.

SCCH

[Motorhead350]

Congrads to Jerry for the run... I don't mean to ruin anything, but I'm not a fan of race cars. I'm all about street cars. I'm more crazy about someone doing an 11.3 on a daily driver than 9.99 on a trailer car and like I say at most race tracks "Broken cars go on trailers." Still a time like Jerrys is off the wall. :eek:

[Rick-n-Miami]

This is a valid point. However, I do believe Jerry had reached the limits of his previous setup, including the old Eaton unit and a full-blown interior street car (10.8 run if I'm not mistaken?). All of these cars will reach this point where they'll have to sacrifice some of the utility for speed.




Congrads to Jerry for the run... I don't mean to ruin anything, but I'm not a fan of race cars. I'm all about street cars. I'm more crazy about someone doing an 11.3 on a daily driver than 9.99 on a trailer car and like I say at most race tracks "Broken cars go on trailers." Still a time like Jerrys is off the wall. :eek:

[StevenJ]

Well, I was in the staging lanes right before that run and it was crazzy let me tell you! John, the owner of the 9 second SS, was not too pleased when he had to hand over the King of the Hill trophy to Jerry Barnes latter! I just feel sorry for those MK VII and Mk VIII guys. They didn't get enough credit as a group. I counted at least 10-15 of them running. That PT Cruiser guy though had all the advantages. I should of chosen a lower dial in and not played with the tunning as much! Well oh well. It was nice meeting all you GASSIT folks!

[Pops]

Congrats to Jerry for winning the Big Dog class and to John with the Impala! I looked over both of these cars and they are very nice. Johns car was built to perfection and was something we all would like to have. Twin turbos that looked like they belonged on the car. Sportsmanship is what this event is about and everyone must play by the rules. They have already fixed the problem for next year by requiring a license to run in the 9 seconds.

The Gassit guys did a great job on putting this event on and have raised the bar for the future of it. We all owe them many kind words and gratitude for the effort that was put onto it. The day went fast and everyone had a good time. Again Congrats to Jerry and John as you both put on a great show. The same goes to all of you who attend both as spectors and racers! A lot of new friends were made this weekend and let it continue to happen in the future.

[KillJoy]

I was there.

:D

I saw it.

:up:

Good stuff!!!

KillJoy

[chader]

I was there.

:D

I saw it.

:up:

Good stuff!!!

KillJoy
the only thing that could have made it better,would be to see the dawgs run more:lol:

[KillJoy]

the only thing that could have made it better,would be to see the dawgs run more:lol:


I agree... but with as much power and $$$ invested in them, I can see why they only ran their 4 runs. Just image the issues if one smacked the wall on a "fun" pass!!! :eek:

Oh well.... still glad I got to see ALL of their runs, and all of the Brackets! It was a great event all around!

:up:

KillJoy

[martyo]

How long before MartyO revamps his car and goes for the record?

From what I heard, not long.

[Pops]

Thats what we have been waiting to hear Marty!

[BigKahuna13]

Hey guys. I think the Impala guys would have come down just as hard on a fellow Impala guy for winning on a technicality. It was a full second difference PLUS John adds no weight. His car has always been a true heavyweight. Also, John has driven that car all over the country and won many events. Now he trailers it because it's set on "kill" :)

Here is what I have posted on the "other" forum:

There was no one there weighing cars. How can you stop at the scales over and over just to look at the same number with no one else there to verify?

The Marauder guys claim they don't know it but everyone in the Impala world knows Johns car is full weight. It's been proven year after year after year.

If the Marauder guys wanted to inspect John's car to see if any sandbags were added they were more than welcome. He could have put it back on the scales and anyone could have checked for any extra weight. There are no sandbags in Johns car so it would have become a moot point since it would have been obvious no weight was added.

Who actually made the protest?

John's car has made weight every year with tons to spare. The Marauder guys have seen it make weight with 250 extra pounds every year on the scales. So I think the protest was poor sportsmanship. Sorry, no 2 ways about it.

If John was an unknown that would be one thing. But he is known in both communities and shows up every year and put his car on the scales every single time. This was truly getting him on a "technicality" so I think it sucks. To even point it out knowing full well John is well OVER the limit is pathetic.

I know the rules are the rules but there was no one at the scales to see it.

[Hack Goby]

Jerry,Marty,I love you guys but I have a big problem with you guys NOT driving your cars.Were not pro`s here and it`s always been everyman for him self plus I thought we had this conversation before about what the records about.Were all just little guys here and if there's going to be a record well you at least drive your own car.

[Bradley G]

You will have to tolerate this Hack.
Now we(they) are approaching the high risk arena.
Trap speeds exceeding 130 MPH and ***** breaking, puts our buddies into a situation they may feel the need to have professionals helping.


Jerry,Marty,I love you guys but I have a big problem with you guys NOT driving your cars.Were not pro`s here and it`s always been everyman for him self plus I thought we had this conversation before about what the records about.Were all just little guys here and if there's going to be a record well you at least drive your own car.

[martyo]

Jerry,Marty,I love you guys but I have a big problem with you guys NOT driving your cars.Were not pro`s here and it`s always been everyman for him self plus I thought we had this conversation before about what the records about.Were all just little guys here and if there's going to be a record well you at least drive your own car.


You will have to tolerate this Hack.
Now we(they) are approaching the high risk arena.
Trap speeds exceeding 130 MPH and ***** breaking, puts our buddies into a situation they may feel the need to have professionals helping.

Hack: You are right to a point. But at this point performance driving is out for me due to health issues. I hope that changes, but I just don't know.

In any event both Jerry and I have driven our cars into the 10s. Few can say that. And I am proud of both of us (although I am ashamed of teh way Jerry dresses!! :p).

Jeff drives both of my car for me. He built them and I consider the cars as much his as I do mine and he knows that. Also, he is very better equipped to deal with 4,000 plus pounds at 130 plus mph then I will ever be.

Jeff has agreed not to carry a brief case or go to Court and I have agreed not to drive at speeds that will make me soil my pants or hurt myself.

[Muffrauder]

Hey guys. I think the Impala guys would have come down just as hard on a fellow Impala guy for winning on a technicality. It was a full second difference PLUS John adds no weight. His car has always been a true heavyweight. Also, John has driven that car all over the country and won many events. Now he trailers it because it's set on "kill" :)

Here is what I have posted on the "other" forum:

There was no one there weighing cars. How can you stop at the scales over and over just to look at the same number with no one else there to verify?

The Marauder guys claim they don't know it but everyone in the Impala world knows Johns car is full weight. It's been proven year after year after year.

If the Marauder guys wanted to inspect John's car to see if any sandbags were added they were more than welcome. He could have put it back on the scales and anyone could have checked for any extra weight. There are no sandbags in Johns car so it would have become a moot point since it would have been obvious no weight was added.

Who actually made the protest?

John's car has made weight every year with tons to spare. The Marauder guys have seen it make weight with 250 extra pounds every year on the scales. So I think the protest was poor sportsmanship. Sorry, no 2 ways about it.

If John was an unknown that would be one thing. But he is known in both communities and shows up every year and put his car on the scales every single time. This was truly getting him on a "technicality" so I think it sucks. To even point it out knowing full well John is well OVER the limit is pathetic.

I know the rules are the rules but there was no one at the scales to see it.

from what I've heard it wasn't so much the scale as it was tech. He isn't licensed for sub 10 second runs... and I'm a bow tie guy.

[sailsmen]

The sole reasons for the :trophy1: going to Tricogy was the Impala passed up the scales and Trilogy filed a protest.

It has nothing to do with how fast the Impala or Tilogy went.

[Hack Goby]

The whole problem I have with this is Why the NHRA can`t see the obvious that this is not a 10 second car.I know in the past it`s run what you brung and hope it`s enough but if it breaks NHRA rule`s why are they overlooking it.When you have to slam on your brakes to stay within the rules or wait untill the last race not to sandbag well theres somthing all wrong to me.

[Bradley G]

The topic is fastest Marauders.
Right now, it appears Jerry Barnes has the fastest Marauder.
Looks like Jerry is dangling a carrot out there, to see if anybody wants to up the ante.

If you got something to add to this discussion, git to typing.

[RCSignals]

The sole reasons for the :trophy1: going to Tricogy was the Impala passed up the scales and Trilogy filed a protest.

It has nothing to do with how fast the Impala or Tilogy went.

according to what Norm of Gassit posted that is not entirely accurate.
The decision to DQ the Impala was already made BEFORE the Trilogy driver reported the scales having been passed.

[sailsmen]

Once Trilogy filed a protest for passing the scales the fate of the trophy essentially was in Trilogy's hands.

There was no protest for an illegally lite car or an unlicensed driver. The protest was for pasing up a scale and the purpose of the protest was to get the trophy.

[sailsmen]

The topic is fastest Marauders.
Right now, it appears Jerry Barnes has the fastest Marauder.
Looks like Jerry is dangling a carrot out there, to see if anybody wants to up the ante.

If you got something to add to this discussion, git to typing.

As I reported last year I have been told there is a 9 second turbo Marauder running in Texas.

Perhaps our TX brothers can make some inquiries to find ouit.

[RCSignals]

Once Trilogy filed a protest for passing the scales the fate of the trophy essentially was in Trilogy's hands.

There was no protest for an illegally lite car or an unlicensed driver. The protest was for pasing up a scale and the purpose of the protest was to get the trophy.

In your opinion.

[Bradley G]

As soon as you can back that up with some evidence, you can start a thread about it.
At least your spelling's getting better!

As I reported last year I have been told there is a 9 second turbo Marauder running in Texas.

Perhaps our TX brothers can make some inquiries to find ouit.

[sailsmen]

In your opinion.

What other reason could there possibly be?

[sailsmen]

As soon as you can back that up with some evidence, you can start a thread about it.
At least your spelling's getting better!

What evidence do we have that the Trilogy is the "Worlds fastest Marauder"?

The evidence I have was reported last year to me by a member of a pitt crew of a Mustang that witnessed a Marauder running in the 9's in TX.

Another mm.net member had an idea of which car we thought it was and that based on his knowledge of the car and the owner it was possible.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=29061

[martyo]

The whole problem I have with this is Why the NHRA can`t see the obvious that this is not a 10 second car.I know in the past it`s run what you brung and hope it`s enough but if it breaks NHRA rule`s why are they overlooking it.When you have to slam on your brakes to stay within the rules or wait untill the last race not to sandbag well theres somthing all wrong to me.

Leave it to the lawyers!! :P

[Bradley G]

All I need is the word of my trusted Mentor.
Since no one has been able to substantiate your hear say claim , in over a year, I'm not too concerned.


What evidence do we have that the Trilogy is the "Worlds fastest Marauder"?

The evidence I have was reported last year to me by a member of a pitt crew of a Mustang that witnessed a Marauder running in the 9's in TX.

Another mm.net member had an idea of which car we thought it was and that based on his knowledge of the car and the owner it was possible.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=29061

[sailsmen]

I believe your claim is also hearsay. You obtained it from a 3rd party by your own admission.

No one has tired to substantiate the "claim".

[martyo]

I believe your claim is also hearsay. You obtained it from a 3rd party by your own admission.

No one has tired to substantiate the "claim".

I am confused. What are you saying here?

[BigKahuna13]

In your opinion.

Well as someone who was there AND a race sponsor AND standing next to Norm AND friends with Norm the protest had nothing to do with how fast Big John was driving.

If someone is to be DQ'd or not allowed to race it's up to the track officials. Big John "accidentally" ran a 9.8 in qualifying and was allowed to continue so it's a moot point. If the track allowed him to run that was the bottom line.

And, FYI, both Big John and Smitty will both get their proper licenses for next year. The cars are certified and safe and passed tech, plus I know for a fact Big John can drive! I've seen him steer out of trouble with a slippery track at SSHS4. So it was his oversight and his fault but the track let him go, therefore there was no decision to make about how fast he was.

Now let's hear about this Turbo Marauder!

[Motorhead350]

Ya what's up with that Turbo Panther?

[RCSignals]

Well as someone who was there AND a race sponsor AND standing next to Norm AND friends with Norm the protest had nothing to do with how fast Big John was driving.

If someone is to be DQ'd or not allowed to race it's up to the track officials. Big John "accidentally" ran a 9.8 in qualifying and was allowed to continue so it's a moot point. If the track allowed him to run that was the bottom line.

And, FYI, both Big John and Smitty will both get their proper licenses for next year. The cars are certified and safe and passed tech, plus I know for a fact Big John can drive! I've seen him steer out of trouble with a slippery track at SSHS4. So it was his oversight and his fault but the track let him go, therefore there was no decision to make about how fast he was.

Now let's hear about this Turbo Marauder!

That's what I was talking about. According to Norm's post the decision was made before the protest was made, and the protest was, if that is what it is to be labeled, about driving past the scale, not about the time of the Impala.

I don't believe the Trilogy team 'just wanted the Trophy'

[RCSignals]

What evidence do we have that the Trilogy is the "Worlds fastest Marauder"?

The evidence I have was reported last year to me by a member of a pitt crew of a Mustang that witnessed a Marauder running in the 9's in TX.

Another mm.net member had an idea of which car we thought it was and that based on his knowledge of the car and the owner it was possible.

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=29061

The apparent 9 second Marauder can't be considered 'world's fastest' if it isn't in the race.

[O's Fan Rich]

The apparent 9 second Marauder can't be considered 'world's fastest' if it isn't in the race.

Think this ought to be just let go Duncan....

[Raudermaster]

Yea, +1. I want to see this thing. Is it ANYWHERE on the net? How about the video of that other MM that's pushing like 670rwhp? Marty I think said he knew about that one? Do we know how fast that one is?

[Bradley G]

Why bother?

I'm not saying a nine second Marauder is impossible, No one here knows anything about it.
If it did exist, why have you not brought up some info?
I was told by the owner of said vehicle.
Close enough for Me!
"Worlds Fastest Marauder!"
Positive displacement Twin Screw 4.6 stock cams!


I believe your claim is also hearsay. You obtained it from a 3rd party by your own admission.

No one has tired to substantiate the "claim".

[martyo]

"Worlds Fastest Marauder!" for the time being Positive displacement Twin Screw 4.6 stock cams!

Bradley I fixed yoru post for ya!! :D

[Bradley G]

Cool Marty!
I don't want you to go "Easy" on him!
I'm glad to see you are feeling
"spunky", My Pal!


Bradley I fixed yoru post for ya!! :D

[martyo]

Cool Marty!
I don't want you to go "Easy" on him!
I'm glad to see you are feeling
"spunky", My Pal!

I may have poor vision but I can still talk smack about my friend Jerry!

[Bradley G]

I know he wouldn't have it, any other way.
Except, .. the shots about his shirts!
Those cause him to weep openly, into his pillow! :bigcry:



I may have poor vision but I can still talk smack about my friend Jerry!

[RCSignals]

Think this ought to be just let go Duncan....


You are of course right Rich

[BigKahuna13]

That's what I was talking about. According to Norm's post the decision was made before the protest was made, and the protest was, if that is what it is to be labeled, about driving past the scale, not about the time of the Impala.

I don't believe the Trilogy team 'just wanted the Trophy'

Norms decision was not made before hand. He was saying that he knew a protest was coming. I do not believe that Norm would have stripped Big John of his crown had there been no protest.

Either way, it was kind of a bush call to protest. Like I said elsewhere, this had nothing to do with Merc v Chevy, because if I fellow Imp guy did that he would have been vilified in the Imp community. Everyone who has come to more than one SSHS knows Big John prides himself on full weight PLUS racing. Plus it wasn't a close race, John R was over a second faster. It just seemed like a pretty bull**** thing to do.

However, if Trilogy wants to be able to claim SSHS7 Big Dog Champ on it's website or something to promote sales then it's a good business decision.

Either way, I think it was a spur of the moment decision that maybe Trilogy regrets. I don't know what you heard but when whoever came over to accept the trophy got the hardware they went over to Big John and said "this really belongs to you...but I see you have enough trophies anyway so I am keeping it!" LOL.

Another odd thing was that Trilogy didn't even bother to attend the awards ceremony. They had to be called over the PA systed a few times until someone came over to get the trophy. That made it a little more awkward since a bunch of angry and confused people were standing around pissed about Big John getting rooked. Also, part of the confusion was that some of us also heard it was because John R went too fast. We were wondering how if the track let him run it wasn't a legal win? Lot's of confusion, lot's of mouth flapping, no one was really sure about it.

Bottom line is that there was no one at the scales, not sure why the Marauder who just lost would sit there 10 minutes waiting for someone to come verify unless they planned it all along.

No biggie, we all know both cars are kickass rides, I would be proud to own either one. I just would never personally take a win that way if I knew for fact that the opponents car was plenty heavy enough.

[Motorhead350]

Wow that's something. I won't know where to begin. To me if someone didn't meet the rules of weight why was this discovered after the race? What happened with teching in?

[RCSignals]

Norms decision was not made before hand. He was saying that he knew a protest was coming. I do not believe that Norm would have stripped Big John of his crown had there been no protest.

Either way, it was kind of a bush call to protest. Like I said elsewhere, this had nothing to do with Merc v Chevy, because if I fellow Imp guy did that he would have been vilified in the Imp community. Everyone who has come to more than one SSHS knows Big John prides himself on full weight PLUS racing. Plus it wasn't a close race, John R was over a second faster. It just seemed like a pretty bull**** thing to do.

However, if Trilogy wants to be able to claim SSHS7 Big Dog Champ on it's website or something to promote sales then it's a good business decision.

Either way, I think it was a spur of the moment decision that maybe Trilogy regrets. I don't know what you heard but when whoever came over to accept the trophy got the hardware they went over to Big John and said "this really belongs to you...but I see you have enough trophies anyway so I am keeping it!" LOL.

Another odd thing was that Trilogy didn't even bother to attend the awards ceremony. They had to be called over the PA systed a few times until someone came over to get the trophy. That made it a little more awkward since a bunch of angry and confused people were standing around pissed about Big John getting rooked. Also, part of the confusion was that some of us also heard it was because John R went too fast. We were wondering how if the track let him run it wasn't a legal win? Lot's of confusion, lot's of mouth flapping, no one was really sure about it.

Bottom line is that there was no one at the scales, not sure why the Marauder who just lost would sit there 10 minutes waiting for someone to come verify unless they planned it all along.

No biggie, we all know both cars are kickass rides, I would be proud to own either one. I just would never personally take a win that way if I knew for fact that the opponents car was plenty heavy enough.


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Regarding the Big Dawg final, it is no secret that Big John and I are long time friends, we live in the same town, known each other for years, he has been a mentor to me as I mess about in my race car adventures and a driving force in the founding of GASSIT and the SSHS events. John is intense and competitive; he gets to the point like high velocity ammunition gets through glass. It was the worse case scenario for me personally in the six years doing SSHS events and 7 years leading GASSIT. I was lucky in that we had good communications setup on the ground, got all the information as to what happened very quickly and we had GASSIT board members together at the time in the tower. I knew John came to SSHS7 after a lot of hard work getting the Bad Bowtie looking and running stronger than ever, he came to make a statement. He was exceptionally successful as THE SSHS7 competitor, in the end he missed a technical requirement that cost him a trophy, but not the respect and admiration of me personally and all the people that saw him run. If the situation was reversed, and the Marauder team missed the scale, I would have made the same type of decision and ruling. The fact is; that the Marauder team’s protest was not the reason the decision was discovered to be needed, the review had already started.

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Norm


I would think the Marauder stopped at the scales because that was the requirement by the rules, last in the race or not.

[sailsmen]

Why bother?

I'm not saying a nine second Marauder is impossible, No one here knows anything about it.
If it did exist, why have you not brought up some info?
I was told by the owner of said vehicle.
Close enough for Me!
"Worlds Fastest Marauder!"
Positive displacement Twin Screw 4.6 stock cams!

I have brought up the info I have, other members have also commented on the info they have.

I was told it ran high 9's by an eye witness.

Why not try to be open and find out the information. We can all learn from it. How and who set up the car will provide us with a lot of good information.

The other sports I have competed in that did not involve winning money or endorsents including competing with/againest Olympic Gold Medal Winners, International and National Champs we always coach up the competition. Including what parts to use and how to set them up.

Why, you are only as good as the competition.

When professionals and businesses get involved things change.

[Aren Jay]

Shouldn't this topic be renamed to worlds quickest Marauder? When you say fast, I'm thinking top speed, not 1/4 mile time.

Anybody make a 150 or 200 MPH Marauder yet?