Are all X-Plans created equal ?

[PhastPhil]

I recently discovered that I can get a discount on New Ford, Lincoln, Mercury,etc vehicles.
I work for a major utility in NYC and according to the company website because they buy large quanties of vehicles from Ford and GM that all of the employees are entitled to a discount. There was a link to a special Ford website, and I had to enter a special code for access. The Ford website then explained about applying for a pin to use when purchasing a vehicle. I was also able to get sample prices on some vehicles. So I looked at a 2008 Grand Marquis, 2008 Explorer, and 2008 Mustang. For each example the discount was approx. two thousand dollars off of the MSRP depending on the model. That doesn't seem like much of a discount. I can do better than that on my own. My father just bought a 2008 Explorer and got better than two thousand off of the MSRP just haggling with the salesman, and based on the advertising.
So my question is, is this the same X-Plan that is offered to Ford Employees, and that someone has set up here on MM.net to help out club members?

[MM2004]

'X' Plan, should be 'X' Plan. If you have a friend or family member that works at Ford, they can assign a pin number to you as Ford 'opened up' these type purchases to friends and family members.

Have the Dealer show you the invoice to what you are looking at. The plans are printed on the bottom of the invoice on what the vehicle cost is by said plan.

BTW, the Dealer HAS to show you the invoice as a plan purchaser. Don't let them tell you different.

Mike.

[PhastPhil]

That's the strange thing. I do not work for Ford. My company is not affiliated with Ford. They just buy a lot of Ford vehicles. My company has set up something with Ford so that we can get a discount. The website says it is a Ford X-Plan, but it seems to be different. Thus, the confusion.

[Aren Jay]

Work your deal then give them your pin number for additional savings.

[RCSignals]

x-plan should be slightly below invoice, and most incentives current at the time can also be applied.
If you can do better than below invoice without incentives etc on your own you are doing good

[Windsor58]

I also get "X-plan" through my company. For some companies, like mine, they call it a "supplier" discount. I'm not sure what we "supply" to them, but we get supplier discounts on Ford, GM and Chrysler products (not that I would ever stray...)
As for how much the discount is, it seems to be related to how much margin a particular vehicle has. If they aren't making a lot on a car, then the discount is small. A couple years ago I bought a loaded Windstar (for my wife) and it worked out to s bit over $4k less than the best deal I could wrangle on my own, so that worked out pretty good.
And, of course, they won't do X-plan on the really cool stuff (Cobra, GT500, etc).